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		<title>By: jeffislouie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffislouie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God forbid anything like this happens on a bus I am on, because there would be close to 30 dead middle school girls and I&#039;d be in jail.
Truth be told, it makes me wonder why none of the bystanders got involved and taught these thuggish human wastoids a lesson not easily forgotten.
There are two ways to deal with violent criminals like this:
beat the stuffing out of them so the injuries causes permanent damage or throw them in jail so they have lots of time to think while being beaten mercilessly by more violent criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God forbid anything like this happens on a bus I am on, because there would be close to 30 dead middle school girls and I&#8217;d be in jail.<br />
Truth be told, it makes me wonder why none of the bystanders got involved and taught these thuggish human wastoids a lesson not easily forgotten.<br />
There are two ways to deal with violent criminals like this:<br />
beat the stuffing out of them so the injuries causes permanent damage or throw them in jail so they have lots of time to think while being beaten mercilessly by more violent criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: terrig</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Charm City lost it&#039;s charm a long time ago.  But why should this story surprise anyone?  I&#039;ve seen plenty of whites and latinos trying to get their &quot;angel&quot; children off at all costs.  But we&#039;re always told by the libs and the MSM that not having a father in the family, or a family for that matter which teaches respect for others is the way to go.  But if anything at all happens to these thugs it will be minimal at best.  They&#039;ll go on to bigger and better crimes and the Jackson &amp; Sharpton sideshow will be there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Charm City lost it&#8217;s charm a long time ago.  But why should this story surprise anyone?  I&#8217;ve seen plenty of whites and latinos trying to get their &#8220;angel&#8221; children off at all costs.  But we&#8217;re always told by the libs and the MSM that not having a father in the family, or a family for that matter which teaches respect for others is the way to go.  But if anything at all happens to these thugs it will be minimal at best.  They&#8217;ll go on to bigger and better crimes and the Jackson &amp; Sharpton sideshow will be there too.</p>
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		<title>By: KaosKlerik</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaosKlerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On March 5th, 2008 at 11:04 am, zyzzyg said: 
Where was the bus driver?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you read some of the earlier reports you&#039;ll see the black bus driver tried to stop it and earlier had stuck up for an elderly white passenger who was being harrassed by the same group of little angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On March 5th, 2008 at 11:04 am, zyzzyg said:<br />
Where was the bus driver?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you read some of the earlier reports you&#8217;ll see the black bus driver tried to stop it and earlier had stuck up for an elderly white passenger who was being harrassed by the same group of little angels.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What goes around...
I agree with #12 above. If amnesty goes through the eventual flood will swell to over 40 million latinos - the other white meat. I know and have spent time with various latin home country folks here in America over the years. They&#039;ve been crapped on by the so-called civil rights folks - read &quot;grab it for the blacks only&quot;. When latinos become double the population of the blacks, the lid is going to come off and black bad guys will get street justice by the car load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What goes around&#8230;<br />
I agree with #12 above. If amnesty goes through the eventual flood will swell to over 40 million latinos &#8211; the other white meat. I know and have spent time with various latin home country folks here in America over the years. They&#8217;ve been crapped on by the so-called civil rights folks &#8211; read &#8220;grab it for the blacks only&#8221;. When latinos become double the population of the blacks, the lid is going to come off and black bad guys will get street justice by the car load.</p>
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		<title>By: puhiawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>puhiawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read there are even web sites that celebrate black crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read there are even web sites that celebrate black crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The slimy defense lawyers going after the victim in this felonious attack never cease to amaze me.  It’s the victims fault for being guilty of being on the bus by their standards.  In a just society these future sociopaths of America should receive the same brutal beating they administered, but unfortunately they will probably walk with just a slap on the wrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The slimy defense lawyers going after the victim in this felonious attack never cease to amaze me.  It’s the victims fault for being guilty of being on the bus by their standards.  In a just society these future sociopaths of America should receive the same brutal beating they administered, but unfortunately they will probably walk with just a slap on the wrist.</p>
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		<title>By: zyzzyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>zyzzyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was the bus driver?  I cannot believe that there is not a system for dealing with such events.  I have seen buses that flash &#039;call police&#039; when there is a problem.  I am not suggesting that the bus driver should have physically stepped in, but at a minimum that driver is certainly a witness.  The driver may not have seen what was going on initially, but had to hear the commotion and wondered what the heck was going on.  Were there other people on the bus?  Riding a bus is a fairly regular thing.  The same people can found on the same route within a certain time frame.  Where are the police that should be doing a canvass looking for witnesses?

And, the boyfriend of the victim, isn&#039;t he also a witness?  The girl who pled &#039;involved&#039; isn&#039;t she also a witness?  And, why did it take so long to bring this thing to court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was the bus driver?  I cannot believe that there is not a system for dealing with such events.  I have seen buses that flash &#8216;call police&#8217; when there is a problem.  I am not suggesting that the bus driver should have physically stepped in, but at a minimum that driver is certainly a witness.  The driver may not have seen what was going on initially, but had to hear the commotion and wondered what the heck was going on.  Were there other people on the bus?  Riding a bus is a fairly regular thing.  The same people can found on the same route within a certain time frame.  Where are the police that should be doing a canvass looking for witnesses?</p>
<p>And, the boyfriend of the victim, isn&#8217;t he also a witness?  The girl who pled &#8216;involved&#8217; isn&#8217;t she also a witness?  And, why did it take so long to bring this thing to court?</p>
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		<title>By: johnnycab23513</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I miss the part about this being a &quot;hate crime&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss the part about this being a &#8220;hate crime&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Rockstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Rockstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to comment on this, but I don&#039;t want to be banned.</description>
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		<title>By: emjem24</title>
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		<dc:creator>emjem24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of how the black community and the black family structure has totally fallen apart. This homeless woman didn&#039;t deserve such an unprovoked attack. What the hell were these kids thinking?

As a teacher, I&#039;ve seen black kids (not the only race) who&#039;ve exhibited a total lack of respect or self-control. They&#039;re filled with bravado, hate, and serious impulse problems. I see them on the streets in my neighborhood at night roaming around looking like they have no useful purpose or a home.

I find this act disgusting. This was clearly a race-motivated attack. The black community has filled its younger members with ignorant blather about how whites have kept them down. Hip hop/rap has told black youths that they can make themselves seemingly invincible, important, even infamous through brandishing a loaded gun or using physical violence. The only kind of family or meaning of life can be found on the streets of America, not in the pursuit of education, bettering your life, or the home.

When will the black community of Baltimore stand up and take a stand against such senseless violence? When will blacks take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the victim (this homeless woman) or whites/society in general?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of how the black community and the black family structure has totally fallen apart. This homeless woman didn&#8217;t deserve such an unprovoked attack. What the hell were these kids thinking?</p>
<p>As a teacher, I&#8217;ve seen black kids (not the only race) who&#8217;ve exhibited a total lack of respect or self-control. They&#8217;re filled with bravado, hate, and serious impulse problems. I see them on the streets in my neighborhood at night roaming around looking like they have no useful purpose or a home.</p>
<p>I find this act disgusting. This was clearly a race-motivated attack. The black community has filled its younger members with ignorant blather about how whites have kept them down. Hip hop/rap has told black youths that they can make themselves seemingly invincible, important, even infamous through brandishing a loaded gun or using physical violence. The only kind of family or meaning of life can be found on the streets of America, not in the pursuit of education, bettering your life, or the home.</p>
<p>When will the black community of Baltimore stand up and take a stand against such senseless violence? When will blacks take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming the victim (this homeless woman) or whites/society in general?</p>
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		<title>By: laugrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>laugrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a murder committed in our small city in upstate NY last summer...trial to come soon.  

A 19 year old went home, got an AK 47 and went to another street and shot a teenager and killed him.  The motive has never been revealed, but gang activity seems to me a likely motive....this in a town of 15,000 people, that has over the past years changed so dramatically you can&#039;t believe it. 

The new Democratic mayor in town referred to the people involved in this travesty as &#039;disenfranchised&#039;......  not criminals but disenfrancised youth.  The future doesn&#039;t bode well when you don&#039;t deal in reality with sociopaths.

The liberals on the City Council call for a &#039;gun amnesty immediately following the murder.  If you turned in ANY guns, not just hand guns or illegal guns, you got coupons for groceries at local stores!!!  This was the solution offered.  Somehow I doubt that the young man who murdered the victim would have turned in his AK47 for food coupons!!!!

The youth involved in this crime on the bus in Baltimore will be slapped on the wrist and turned back into society to do worse crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a murder committed in our small city in upstate NY last summer&#8230;trial to come soon.  </p>
<p>A 19 year old went home, got an AK 47 and went to another street and shot a teenager and killed him.  The motive has never been revealed, but gang activity seems to me a likely motive&#8230;.this in a town of 15,000 people, that has over the past years changed so dramatically you can&#8217;t believe it. </p>
<p>The new Democratic mayor in town referred to the people involved in this travesty as &#8216;disenfranchised&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;  not criminals but disenfrancised youth.  The future doesn&#8217;t bode well when you don&#8217;t deal in reality with sociopaths.</p>
<p>The liberals on the City Council call for a &#8216;gun amnesty immediately following the murder.  If you turned in ANY guns, not just hand guns or illegal guns, you got coupons for groceries at local stores!!!  This was the solution offered.  Somehow I doubt that the young man who murdered the victim would have turned in his AK47 for food coupons!!!!</p>
<p>The youth involved in this crime on the bus in Baltimore will be slapped on the wrist and turned back into society to do worse crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: 30 pcs of silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>30 pcs of silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw the book at them. They have the tapes from the bus. Kreager may not be able to identify each one of them as she was beaten into a bloody pulp but the tapes sure can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw the book at them. They have the tapes from the bus. Kreager may not be able to identify each one of them as she was beaten into a bloody pulp but the tapes sure can.</p>
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		<title>By: englishqueen01</title>
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		<dc:creator>englishqueen01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Defense attorneys mostly tried to attack Kreager’s character, pointing to previous arrests, mental health problems and uncooperative behavior at the hospital.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gotta love that.  She gets the crap beat out of her and &lt;em&gt;her&lt;/em&gt; character is attacked.

What about the character of the juvenile thugs who beat her?

Oh...that&#039;s right...never mind.  We can&#039;t judge, and all that... :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Defense attorneys mostly tried to attack Kreager’s character, pointing to previous arrests, mental health problems and uncooperative behavior at the hospital.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gotta love that.  She gets the crap beat out of her and <em>her</em> character is attacked.</p>
<p>What about the character of the juvenile thugs who beat her?</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;that&#8217;s right&#8230;never mind.  We can&#8217;t judge, and all that&#8230; <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, ChiefRZ.  I know, back in my school days, things like that were unthinkable.  I wouldn&#039;t fear school/court as much as I would fear going home.  What was left of me, after Dad got through, would be turned over to Mom.  Talk about the &quot;wrath of the gods&quot;!! And that wasn&#039;t true of just my parents, it was the same with all parents of my friends. Now, they look for an excuse to rationalize the behavior and hire a lawyer. This is a fine example of socialism&#039;s effect on a population. At one time, 50-60 years ago, one was safer in a black neighborhood, than a white neighborhood.  I know here, D.C. schools were considered some of the best in the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, ChiefRZ.  I know, back in my school days, things like that were unthinkable.  I wouldn&#8217;t fear school/court as much as I would fear going home.  What was left of me, after Dad got through, would be turned over to Mom.  Talk about the &#8220;wrath of the gods&#8221;!! And that wasn&#8217;t true of just my parents, it was the same with all parents of my friends. Now, they look for an excuse to rationalize the behavior and hire a lawyer. This is a fine example of socialism&#8217;s effect on a population. At one time, 50-60 years ago, one was safer in a black neighborhood, than a white neighborhood.  I know here, D.C. schools were considered some of the best in the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief RZ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nyc123me.  Yes, that would be quite a headline and the NYT would probably carry the story about as long as the Tawana Brawley / Al Shapton lie.  
There is another thing to look at.  Sometime around the 1950-60s, God was taken out of our schools.  This is the result:  people with no morals nor moral guidance from God fearing parents.  The second part is the result of the Democratic &quot;war on poverty&quot; that threw out fathers from homes so mothers could live on welfare and teach their children that the world / USA owes them a living without working a day in their lives.  Now they form gangs and terrorize the neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nyc123me.  Yes, that would be quite a headline and the NYT would probably carry the story about as long as the Tawana Brawley / Al Shapton lie.<br />
There is another thing to look at.  Sometime around the 1950-60s, God was taken out of our schools.  This is the result:  people with no morals nor moral guidance from God fearing parents.  The second part is the result of the Democratic &#8220;war on poverty&#8221; that threw out fathers from homes so mothers could live on welfare and teach their children that the world / USA owes them a living without working a day in their lives.  Now they form gangs and terrorize the neighborhood.</p>
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