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1. #1
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, The Raging Republican said:

   Now thats just dumb….. can someone please tell these fools that this is an all volunteer military.

2. #2
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, letget said:

   I might suggest Jason head for Iran, they will make him feel welcome.
   L

3. #3
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, Bigurn said:

   Drivel like this emphasizes the need for an all-volunteer force. Would someone tell me how a meeting of 30 people on a campus of 20,000 is newsworthy?

   And, really, “Nixon’s army”? I’m sure it is the United States Army. Maybe this guy should get some fake credit for having the fake courage to burn a fake draft card for a fake draft that he’s eligible for (Ha! Faked you out!)

   Finally, Mr. Hurd should read up on the subject of convoy security. While he’s at it he should read up on the level of safety in Iraq during the Hussein regime. Random shootings, rape rooms, ethnic cleansing… any of this sound safe?

   It’s so patheticly stupid, it should be The Onion.

4. #4
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, cpodug said:

   Calling Code Pinko – need you in Chapel Hill ASAP. Gotta have some help with our protest – need to pump those numbers up!

   (Where’s Lurch when you really need him?)

5. #5
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, geminicontender said:

   Phony draft cards? They’d have to be. Don’t these people realize the ‘draft’ is not in existence. Whoooo the 60′s live on. Now if the pharmaceutical companies could come up with something that last 40 years like the LSD these people are still on. Hippies unite. You have Barack and Hillary to look forward too.

6. #6
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, tgusa said:

   This isn’t 1971, he can fight when the time comes or he can clean the toilets for those that do otherwise he will get shipped over to the other side. We are not going to do their fighting for them any longer if they choose to hide under the bed sobeit but they can do it somewhere else. Personally I would not want him anywhere near me at anytime in war or peace so as far as I’m concerned he has one foot out of the country already.

7. #7
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, pressto said:

   No he was not mis-quoted at the start and stated this before according to:

   http://militarylies.typepad.com/military_lies/jason_hurd/index.html

   “I watched our guys shoot at innocent people and then brag about it,” Hurd said. “If people knew what war is really like, they would demand we get out of Iraq immediately.”

   That was found with a simple search and I bet I can find a lot more quotes by him stating the same thing. I am suprised the military has not questioned him on this.

8. #8
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, geminicontender said:

   Maybe Reuters could show us some pictures of Hurd shooting at civilians….I am sure they have something

9. #9
   On March 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, deepdiver said:

   “It’s important to get the word out in a creative way,” said Heuer, a retired UNC facilities designer.

   Cluepon: Reenacting something that happened 40 years ago in totally different circumstances for a totally different reason by several of the same people, would pretty much be the antithesis of “creative”.

   “I went to Iraq to help people…,” Hurd said.

   Um, huh? Was he in Iraq with the Peace Corps? Some UN humanitarian mission? Oh wait, he was in the Unites States Military. Their job, as has been the job of the military since the dawn of time, is to kill people and break things, no matter how much the hippies try to twist everything into some humanitarian mission. I respect and admire his volunteer service, however, somewhere along the line he utterly failed to understand his job.

10. #10
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Thomas said:

    So, they are self-waterboarding in protest,

    and burning fake draft cards in protest,

    I wonder what their next “creative way” to protest is going to be.

    … Maybe they can escape the evil Bush regime – by deporting themselves to another country … for real.

11. #11
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, deepdiver said:

    I’m sort of hoping they creatively oppose the war by fatally shooting themselves en masse to show us whatever it is that they think that will show us. What a boon for the gene pool.

12. #12
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, walterc said:

    When these guys get caught do you think the jihadis will fake cut their heads off?

    Me neither.

    What a bunch of idiots.

13. #13
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, cngerms said:

    This idiot burns his pseudo-draft card while standing in the same Pit a lone jihadist targeted with his SUV. How apropos!

14. #14
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, TexasTiger said:

    Was John Heuer the model for Cruiser from Stripes?

    Cruiser: I joined the army ’cause my father and my brother were in the army. I figured I better join before I got drafted.
    Sergeant Hulka: Son, there ain’t no draft no more.
    Cruiser: There was one?

    Re: Jason “Turd” Hurd:

    Hurd is passionate about telling people what life really is like in Iraq since the American invasion in 2003. He spent a year there with the Tennessee Army National Guard and now works to educate people by telling his story.
    He and three other members of Iraq Veterans Against the War from Western North Carolina are planning to attend Winter Soldier, an event in Washington March 13-16, where Iraq veterans will tell their stories. It is named for an event staged by Vietnam Veterans Against the War in 1971.

    There must be someone from the Tennessee Guard that reads this blog and knows him. Of course, HIPAA prevents Jason’s pharmacist from coming forward.

15. #15
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, wrcnossen said:

    What an air-head! His “creative way” of getting the message out is to copy a method 40 years old, with a fake draft card, when we don’t draft anyone.

    The MSM should be complementing his ability to stand upright with so few active brain cells, rather than give this loser any thoughtful coverage.

16. #16
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, MarcTheInfidel said:

    I am willing to bet that this Jason Hurd will be shown to be less than what he claims. Typical of the Winter Soldier legacy.

    This post reminds me of the following quote -

    “The mere absence of war is not peace” – John F. Kennedy

    If only we could get Congress to grasp the depth of this quote.

    -Marc

17. #17
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, CarpiJugulum said:

    I wonder if they lined up and burned draft cards then dropped to their knees and prayed to mecca it would have prevented that jihadist from targeting the pit?

    More lack of real intelligence from the left wing antireality, live with head in a hole crowd.

18. #18
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, Kevlaur said:

    One more reason to be proud of my Seaman Apprentice son.

19. #19
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:52 pm, yt1300inHtown said:

    There was one?

20. #20
    On March 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, docflash said:

    Nothing has changed for him.Coward in ’71,coward now.

21. #21
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Azygos said:

    Since they seem to want to repeat the 60′s and 70′s are they next going to try and burn down an ROTC building?

    What a bunch of maroons.

22. #22
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:21 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    To the blogosphere goddess: This one should be filed under Idiots. They should of hired those journalists who fabricated news story’s to cover this one. That way you would have fake journalist covering fake draftees burning fake draft cards!!!!!!

23. #23
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, Chuck said:

    bigurn said:
    

    Would someone tell me how a meeting of 30 people on a campus of 20,000 is newsworthy?

    I saw it during Viet Nam at U of Ill. 50 clowns would gather at the Student Union steps and the media would set the cameras so you thought there were thousands. The other 30,000 undergrads were off ‘going to school’.

    If you drew back across the Quad you could hardly tell they were there, but on the 10 o’clock news “Student protesters came out in droves to burn their draft cards today…” Bah Humbug!

24. #24
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, DBNinKY said:

    It’s like the old saying goes, “Those who do not learn from the past… .”

25. #25
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, nyc123me said:

    Nice misquote by the Raleigh News Observer.. that is not a misquote, that is blatant embellishment, and the military should sue them for libel.

26. #26
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, laugrat said:

    Being from the 60′s generation (and I’m not particularly proud of that); I almost lapsed into a rendition of “Age of Aquarius” sequed into “Give Peace a Chance”/Kumbya…..

    The left has been waiting so long to see this again – - hoping for a way to destroy the culture that gives them the freedom to act like idiots.

    They better hope (I almost mistakenly wrote ‘pray’ without thinking) that the Islamofacists don’t achieve their goal of control of the entire world with their absurd beliefs; because all bets will be off then when they want to ‘protest’.

    Why do they burn ‘fake’ draft cards – - no guts? But that goes without saying.

27. #27
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:48 pm, graysonret said:

    What you have is a bunch of “airheads” wanting their name in the news and on tv cameras, so they feel important. Yeah, wave at cameras, guys, and don’t forget…”Hi,Mom!” Unfortunately, the news media goes out of their way to publicize them as some sort of “news”.

28. #28
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:54 pm, blues said:

    The moonbats are getting more and more insane by the minute.Burning fake draft cards,another Winter Soldier event.The sixties ended a long time ago,but I guess the moonbats didn’t get the memo.Or they got the memo and couldn’t read it,thanks to their liberal education.
    Seriously,after all these years I am beginning to believe that the majority of people in this country have lost the ability to think rationally.Even the educated professionals don’t seem to be able to present a point based on logic and fact.
    It is disappointing ,to say the least,that these two idiots will probably be taken seriously by many people ,instead of being ignored as they should be.

29. #29
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:56 pm, zeroangel said:

    At my old job, we had this guy that was a rabid liberal (fresh out of college).

    Nice guy, but he had his head poisoned by liberal professors.

    I often took it upon myself to try and deprogram him.

    I remember one time he made some flipant remark about how GWB is going to draft him and he will have to fight in some unnessary war.

    I responded, “Don’t worry man, I’ll go long before you do.” (he and others in the office new I was previoudly active duty and still in the reserves.)

    It shut him up fast. Interestingly, my unit was mobilized about 3 wks later.

30. #30
    On March 5th, 2008 at 6:56 pm, Regulus said:

    What’s interesting is how, when you consider their statements and actions, the “progressives” tend to be the most reactionary people you’ll ever run into.

    It’s all here: the “Hippie Heaven of ’67″ retread college professor, the phony draft cards, the odd burn-out veteran PTSD type who can’t get on with his life because he refuses to let go of the past.

    These are the same kinds of people who will nod grimly and silently when someone critizes the military for “wanting to re-fight the last war,” yet they see no irony at all in how they themselves perceive everything through the prism of Vietnam – including those too young to have experienced it.

    But I’ll bet they sure felt good about themselves when their little display was all over. And that, ultimately, is the whole point of everything they do.

31. #31
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, Dandapani said:

    “Fake, but accurate!” — Dan Rather School of Protest. LOL

32. #32
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, right_on said:

    Fine…let them do their faux draft card burn…let’s have our elected officials enact a law that will cause these types to be identified, then banned from EVER receiving any type of federal aid or assistance.

    I’m sure there are some idealistic non-American citizens out there who would be glad to serve in their place, in return for US citizenship, and all the rewards it offers them.

33. #33
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:09 pm, Boomer said:

    Wasn’t the Pit at this center of liberalism the very site of a Johnny Jihad moment with a Muslim student running down his fellow students in his SUV? How soon the mental midgets of the liberal left forget about this incident on their own campus just last year. I’m sure many of us remember the coverage Michelle gave it, but it was hardly a bleep in the MSM.

    The loser liberal performance art shows are getting more and more pathetic everyday. Still trying to live the good old days when they helped betray millions to the genocide of their good buddies the communist after Congress defunded the South Vietnamese government in 1975.

    From the change in tone from initial quotes attributed to our war hero it sounds to me like this veteran against the war was one of the real echelon types that was not trusted enough to carry a weapon in combat. If this witness believes his fellow soldiers violated the Law of Armed Conflict and Rules of Engagement by firing on civilians why didn’t he step forward and bring it up his chain of command or go talk to the JAG? This guy’s story stinks to high heaven just like a bag of excrement in a different container.

34. #34
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:12 pm, terrig said:

    I feel like many of you that when this story comes out on Hurd there will be more to him than meets the eye. I have another comment but it would get me banned.
    Reg, I’m sure they do feel good about themselves.
    Zero, when my Uncle starts ranting like a lunatic I always tell him that he shouldn’t worry, the only dog he has in this hunt is my husband and he’s proud, willing and ready to go back whenever he is needed. That shuts him up pretty quick.

35. #35
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    About 30 people attended the brief noon rally in the Pit outside the Student Union. Members of UNC-CH Students for a Democratic Society handed out fake draft cards and sarcastically solicited passers-by to sign up for military duty in Iraq.

    I’m not easily impressed, but here’s my idea how they can. Let all the guys go and get their Selective Service registration paperwork from the post office and burn it. That would impress me.
    That would be a real protest.

36. #36
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    But I’ll bet they sure felt good about themselves when their little display was all over. And that, ultimately, is the whole point of everything they do.

    That’s what happens when you raise kids to eschew responsibility, abandon morals/values, and believe that no matter what they do, they are right. Consequences, failure, and shame are foreign concepts to this touchy-feely bunch. Critical thinking is also apparently in short supply.

    I want to believe that we, as a society, will reach a breaking point with the PC crap that is tolerated/condoned these days. I fear, however, that a majority of the population will never return to the values and standards that made this country great. We are losing our identity and ultimately it will cost us everything.

37. #37
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:17 pm, jimC said:

    I agree. I think if the truth were told about this Jason Hurd, he would probably turn out to be quite a bit less than what he wants you to think he is. That is the winter soldier legacy of course (John Kerry and his magic hat anyone).

    Jim C

38. #38
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:47 pm, zorro said:

    Boomer said: Wasn’t the Pit at this center of liberalism the very site of a Johnny Jihad moment with a Muslim student running down his fellow students in his SUV? How soon the mental midgets of the liberal left forget about this incident on their own campus just last year. I’m sure many of us remember the coverage Michelle gave it, but it was hardly a bleep in the MSM.

    That was my recollection as well.

    As for Jason Hurd:

    He said one of his jobs was to shoot at anything that came within 50 meters of military vehicles.

    Bigurn said it: “Mr. Hurd should read up on the subject of convoy security”.

    Young Mr. Hurd should pay closer attention in those early morning briefings.

39. #39
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, Master Shake said:

    Maybe the protest would be more effective if he burned his bra, too….

40. #40
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, F15mech said:

    Something tells me Hurd is on a bad acid trip.

41. #41
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:54 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    I don’t like the Socialist Insecurity system. Does this mean I can burn my SS card and stop paying the taxes because I don’t support it?

    Socialism has killed more people than war. So why don’t these brain donors protest socialism?

    Oh, that’s right. They’re socialists! Silly me. For a minute there I could have sworn someone thought they were intelligent.

42. #42
    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, geminicontender said:

    Why is it that these long haired hippies never catch on fire when igniting US Flags or fake Draft cards. The amount of oil and grease in their hair would either ignite the hell out of them or they could transfer the oils to an alternative form of energy. Go radicals.!!!!

43. #43
    On March 5th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    I’ll bet that John Heuer thinks he’s a really groovy dude. I heard they were having a gas, until Gloria Steinem came by to show the 19 year old girls how to burn their bra. She just ended up grossing everybody out and injuring her right thigh. Gravity’s a b!+ch.

44. #44
    On March 5th, 2008 at 8:13 pm, Jim M. said:

    UNC has 27,000 students.

    This “rally”, at noon, at one of the most popular gathering places on campus (the Pit) attracted “about 30″ protestors. And this is newsworthy?

    Who wants to bet they were counting onlookers in that number?

    Talk about trying to manufacture news.

    And yes, the Pit is where the budding jihadist decided to turn his SUV into a deadly weapon.

    And this Hurd guy sounds like another “phony soldier”. Our guys and gals over there are making one hell of a difference, and they are rightfully proud of their accomplishments there. I know I am damn proud of all of them!

45. #45
    On March 5th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, Barry F. said:

    Hurd, who said he now takes medication to deal with nightmares and flashbacks, serves as president of the Asheville chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

    Hmmmm? Sounds like he must be taking some pretty good stuff to me.

    “I went to Iraq to help people, but instead I ended up shooting civilians.” Hurd did not say that he shot civilians but spoke about “how members of my unit unnecessarily shot at civilians during convoys and then bragged about these incidents later on.”

    Good grief! Look out Foer. I think you found your next Scott Beauchamp. Sorry, Scotty. Easy come, easy go, dude.

46. #46
    On March 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Alphonse said:

    Haven’t we clear out Saddam’s WMD yet?

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 9/8/03: Last February, with invasion just weeks away, sources in the Bush administration told Newsweek that they were expecting a postwar occupation of Iraq of 30 to 90 days.

47. #47
    On March 5th, 2008 at 9:32 pm, almeehan said:

    Hurd said. “If people knew what war is really like, they would demand we get out of Iraq immediately.”
    

    Yes, Mr. Hurd same as those thousands who bled, suffered and died on Omaha Beach. If they knew how bad war was and turned around and jumped back on those landing craft, you’d be speaking German now. You ungrateful little Nurd, Hurd.

48. #48
    On March 5th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, garyt said:

    This is weird. During the height of the Viet Nam War pro communist elements here in the USA said it was unfair to have the draft. President Nixon put in the volunteer system and now the same folks want to revert back to the draft. Now is the change the Demos want?

49. #49
    On March 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm, davidleerothmann said:

    When it comes to hippies, my hero is Eric Cartman. Slayer CD on standby….

50. #50
    On March 5th, 2008 at 10:13 pm, corkie said:

    Burning fake draft cards?

    Did the passerbys just laugh?

    How are they not embarrassed?

51. #51
    On March 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pm, TexasTiger said:

    On March 5th, 2008 at 10:13 pm, corkie said:

    Burning fake draft cards?

    Did the passerbys just laugh?

    They had a laugh track.

52. #52
    On March 6th, 2008 at 5:33 am, graysonret said:

    My God, are they now bombing recruiting stations???
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335435,00.html

53. #53
    On March 6th, 2008 at 9:49 am, sunandsteel said:

    On March 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, Master Shake said:
    Maybe the protest would be more effective if he burned his bra, too….

    Thats awesome!!

    Now, will the 60′s just die already?

54. #54
    On March 6th, 2008 at 10:12 am, James Felix said:

    “It’s important to get the word out in a creative way,” said Heuer, a retired UNC facilities designer.

    I’m glad he got the word out. I had no idea anyone was against our involvement in Iraq.

55. #55
    On March 6th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, JoeRed said:

    I am appalled!
    I will be burning my FAKE “UNC-CH Students for a Democratic Society” membership card immediately!

    Yeah, that will show them.

    

56. #56
    On March 6th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Barry F. said:

    Everyone with a delinquent tax notice from the IRS needs to burn them in revolt and tell Washington that we are tired of funding big nanny government. I wonder how that would go over.

57. #57
    On March 6th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Speaking from personal experience, I was an AF Recruiter in a big city, all Armed Forces group building during the 70′s. Our business car was blown up by a hippie with the sense of a rock. I will not give these drug-induced, communist-loving, anti-patriot hippies a moment of my time today. I know that if any of the recruiters were scared back then, they never showed it (especially the Marine contingent who were all highly decorated Vietnam vets)—and contrary to regulation, most of them were armed. Thanks, Michelle, for posting these stories for all to see. There are traitors in our midst. We must be vigilant. To you recruiters: let us know if we old Vietnam era vets need to cover your 6!

58. #58
    On March 8th, 2008 at 11:42 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    I thought the democrats wanted the draft. According to Alan Colmes, the draft would be a great thing because it would lead to more anti-war protests. And wasn’t it dems who kept on introducing legislation to reinstate the draft anyway?

    Are these liberals turning conservative, or they did just not understand the platform of their party?