On March 9th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, rightisright said: And good ‘o compassionate Jorge is telling the Israeli’s to be calm…what a farce he is.

Maybe he learned his lesson from having his administration go from promising to a total historical fiasco by letting the neoncons talk him into putting Israel’s interests before the interests of the U.S. and attacking Iraq. The other George, George Washington, had it exactly right:

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/washing.htm
So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation [Israel], facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists [US,oil|Israel,land], and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification [Iraq war]. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained [trillions in aid if Iraq war is included], and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld [bin Laden]. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation [Israel lobby]), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country [neoconservatives], without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

The point that we agree on is that there’s too much politics on every topic. Environmental concerns have, to some people, become a type of religion. Last time I checked, it wasn’t a religion, but some people seem to want it to be one. The Earth is warming,yes. But then so are Mercury, Venus, and Mars. Last time I checked, only Earth had humans.

Mankind is NOT causing the Earth to warm, but there are some people scream and shout that it is. If we’re going to solve the problems facing us, we don’t need those kinds of people. We need calm, rational people .. and that appears to be in thin supply these days. Everything is politicized.

At the risk of wearing out my welcome, since this really isn’t a scientific forum, let me just say that mankind is only producing a fraction of the CO2 in the atmosphere. Volcanism is doing the rest. But mankind’s contribution is enough to tip the balance. We’re not CAUSING the problem, but we’re not doing enough to curb our contribution to it. More refineries create another problem, the “NIMBY! Syndrome.” And, eventually, we’d run out of domestic oil.

Ordinary: that’s what Glenn Beck’s solution was. Unfortunately, we can’t reason with these people that are intent on wiping us out. For them, it’s a religious duty. Unfortunately, many of the madrassas are now radicalized and some of them are on US soil. Don’t forget about “Islamberg” in the Catskills.

The more I see things happening lately, the more I wonder if I’ll live to a ripe old age. And that’s scarey.

These idiots need to be FLUSHED out of our government and out of POLICY-MAKING POSITIONS!

Everyone knows what common sense positions need to be adopted and i nstantly funded.
And where they don’t seem feasible it is generally because of environmental whackos that need to be expelled from American soil to some Devil’s Island where they have to live without the technology they demand everyone else surrender while their own carbon footprints merely ex plode – usually LITERALLY.

We need NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, and we need water wheel electromagneto generators on the NIAGRA River and other large dams, etc, and we need oil from ANWR and the offshore rigs, etc.
And we need new refineries going online, and such states as do not want the REFINERIES AND PLANTS will be BANNED FOR BUYING THE ENERGY FROM THEM.

See who they feel like catering to, when they have no airconditioning and heating in their closed up skyscraper offices and their fancy homes.

And no power for their weather instruments and their earth quake instruments.

Like they say about TAX CUTS – MAKE THEM PAY FOR THEIR IDEOLOGY AS THEY GO!

Maybe THEY want to burn off their fat by walking on Generator TREADMILLS.

148 hours on the Generator Treadmill for every 5 minutes on a microphone.

On March 8th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, brooklyn red said:
bit_boy , THANKYOU we are paying for this…
They want a moratorium on earmarks???
NOT ONE RED CENT FOR FORIGEN AID!
Can I get a witness?

Well, I witness to NO FOREIGN AID to our enemies and for enemies of the human beings.

I’m disgusted with our politicians pretending they can use foreign aid as carrots for brutal dictators.
If we are going to throw carrots to the brutal dictators, then throw them the US politicians and diplomats, INSTEAD.

But I require we send foreign aid to such as Israel and a few few few nations which use the money to build a healthy community of their nations.

On March 8th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, wrcnossen said:
Peace does not come from talking. It comes from victory.

Patrick Henry – Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people!

I’m fed up, frankly. The sooner we go medieval on these jerks, the sooner real stability will ensue.

If a war with the blood of combatants running bridle deep to a horse doesn’t teach these vicious, cold-blooded fools better than to touch the Apple of God’s Eye, if NOT to stop hating others so much, then American pacifists are certainly not going to stop them.

And I see no indication that the pacifists are about anything other than “busywork” to fool the idiot sleeping Conservatives into not getting up off their duffs and making a stand.

And it is working.

On March 8th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, zorro said:

“…In order for there to be any hopes for peace, the ideology of Radical Islam which drives Hamas must change, and peace must be taught.”

Hamas, Hezbollah, AQ etc. must all be crushed. Crushed so thoroughly and completely as to create a disincentive for Muslims to join radical jihad ever again.

Zorro, you are right again, as usual.

If Hamas – meaning “VIOLENCE” was TEACHABLE, th ey would have learned the lesson long before their median age was under 16 yrs of age.

When people can sacrifice their own children to their hatred, then they are NOT teachable.

Obadiah is a short book of one chapter that is an unfulfilled prophecy in the Old Testament of the Bible of the utter destruction of these people on the North side of Israel, who should have been BROTHERS to Israel in her hardship – but instead, they have la ughed at her distresses, and rather than help her, have done everything they can to finish her off – KNOWING she is the Apple of God’s Eye, and being so eaten up with JEALOSY over the fact that THEY KNOW SHE IS THE COVENANT HEIR to God’s Love, through Abraham, that they cannot stand the thought of her existence.

It is the complete epitome of utter and pure jealosy and envy.

If they have proven anything in 60 years – on top of 6,000 years – it is that they cannot be “TAUGHT” to love others.

Soon, and on this earth, their harvest will come home to them.

It is really creepy how totally and intricately and accurately that God describes these people before He pronounces their end upon them – from the beginning. About 3,000 years ago.

nbarry, YES. Exactly. That’s what it’s going to take. That, and keep the politics out of it (as if there’s any chance of THAT happening.)

Brooklyn, ::sigh:: Ok..you had a number of things in your comment. First, I know (and agree with you completely) that they are going to bring the war to us. Of that, I have no doubt. As for offending them? Um…we are talking about (as Michelle would say) the Religion of Perpetual Outrage. I don’t think that there is a way NOT to offend them. Other than submitting or converting, and I’ve no wish to do either. Remember Michelle’s tee shirt? That says it all.

And bullets, I’m afraid you’ve lost me on this one. I never said whom to buy them from. Mayhaps we should be making our own?

As for the political solution … I’m going to get flamed for this one. And Michelle, I apologize.

In my opinion, you can’t negotiate with the terrorists and with the radicals. They’re a lost cause. I’m not going to quote Glenn Beck because that might get my account terminated, but his solution wasn’t to sing Kumbaya.

My point, however, is this. Where does Saudi Arabia get most of its money from? Oil. So does the Saudi Royal Family. This is the same government that has made pleasant noises to our government about getting the phrases out of its textbooks that compare the Jewish people to “pigs.” Those same textbooks that talk about exterminating them. IF we could get the US and other countries (especially India and China which are growing rapidly) off of oil, I GUARANTEE it would cause quite a few changes in that part of the world.

You know where the Madrassas are that produced these murderers. You know which Imams.

Kill Them.

But it does buy a whole lot of bullets & given my choice I know in what direction they would fly in. Oh wait your right again… we need to buy bullets from Israel cause we don’t make enough. Dang.

My point is brace for war because like it or not they are going to continue to bring it to us. What was the name of the Russian school?? Breslin I think … can’t remember they have attacked so many. Oh but it is our fault somehow we offended them… They like to target students, and your political solution was again… something with hydrogen atoms?? Excellent idea!!! Ohio boats can make very efficient use of hydrogen atoms.

schucks… juss sayin.

/is this necessary?