If they go through with this, they will weaken our nation and put us on the path toward being another EU, which in turn is about to squashed out of existence by radical Islam.

So, do we want to place ourselves on such a road, or are we going to just leave the politics and humanities nonsense OUT of the pure sciences!

Feminists, let us do our job and stay
OUT of my field!

My mother had a master degree in mathematics. Several of my highschool teachers of mathematics were women. In university there were very few women in the engineering or geology classes, however there was no reason for that due to school-university policy. Even in the mining engineering field women could take that subject though there was a real barrier to the woman graduate working in the mines due to superstition of a certain cultural group who often worked in the mines.

I found in my teaching years in the earthscience field that often the better student was a woman. Certainly the college did not have any policy against women in the engineering-physical science field.

Thus I think it is the culture not the school systems that cause few women to take the Math-Physical Science-Engineering courses.

…oh wait…I already do.

Scratch that idea.

Apparently you haven’t met too many science geeks. Radiate self confidence they do not.

The people who are too shy to give a convincing presentation do not get to the top. Those superstars in academic science may not dress up, but they certainly believe in themselves.

Tre, are you honestly arguing that women aren’t as well suited to be scientists as men are? Because that would be crazy talk.

Actually yes, on average. But it’s all about averages, not absolutes. Generally speaking, there are more men who have the natural aptitude that makes the hard and applied sciences enjoyably challenging than women. There are some women that do, but most don’t. How will you force equal numbers of girls into the dork classes if they just don’t have the knack?
Dumb down the classes so they are more comfortable? Sure, go ahead. Less competition for me in years to come when those classes start graduating idiot engineers who can’t design a Popsicle stick bridge.

lgm said:

People being judged by their manner and self confidence in making presentations as much as for the technical content.

Apparently you haven’t met too many science geeks. Radiate self confidence they do not.

Just like my son likes action movies and my daughter likes relationship movies. They just do.

Women now earn 57 percent of bachelors degrees and 59 percent of masters degrees

Looks like men are getting the short end of the stick here… more women are getting degrees.

So, do we now need affirmitive action for men?

Lacy better be careful what she squaks about…

Do you think that women are not as prevalent in math and science because of a gender bias?

Yes. This often is subtle: girls getting the message that they can’t do math, women seeing that it’s hard to have kids and build a science career. People being judged by their manner and self confidence in making presentations as much as for the technical content.

Do you find that one sex has more of a natural mathematical aptitude or inclination over the other?

No.

Sadly because of a major crisis of academic vocation in psych; I have reached the conclusion that psych is not a science (like chemistry, biology, math, and the like) but a pseudoscience-big on interpretation and severely lacking in hard rigourous scientific application. Hense, another guy is leaving psych at the end of the semester and heading to the science of radiology and nuclear medicine.

GSP