Comments on: The anti-recruiter movement: Bombs, vandalism, assassination threats, and now a call to “cage” the troops http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:55:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Soldier’s Daughter gets wish for Christmas | Political Byline http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-564886 Soldier’s Daughter gets wish for Christmas | Political Byline Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:45:59 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-564886 [...] You see, it is because of stuff like this right here. Is why I am a Libertarian Conservative Blogger, this is why I decided that the Democratic Party was not that Party that loves America, Respects it’s Military. I mean, you need look no further than Michelle Malkin’s Blog to see that. [...] [...] You see, it is because of stuff like this right here. Is why I am a Libertarian Conservative Blogger, this is why I decided that the Democratic Party was not that Party that loves America, Respects it’s Military. I mean, you need look no further than Michelle Malkin’s Blog to see that. [...]

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » The return of an unhinged IVAW member http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-277281 Michelle Malkin » The return of an unhinged IVAW member Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:38:27 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-277281 [...] Against the War member Evan Knappenberger, who threatened the Gathering of Eagles and advocated my assassination. I offered thanks to an IVAW official who announced that Knappenberger had been indefinitely [...] [...] Against the War member Evan Knappenberger, who threatened the Gathering of Eagles and advocated my assassination. I offered thanks to an IVAW official who announced that Knappenberger had been indefinitely [...]

]]> By: » unconscionable http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-266815 » unconscionable Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:25:47 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-266815 [...] of the start of the Iraq War). Some of the most egregious atrocities are being planned for Pittsburgh, with calls going out from an outfit called Pittsburgh Organizing Group to occupy a recruiting [...] [...] of the start of the Iraq War). Some of the most egregious atrocities are being planned for Pittsburgh, with calls going out from an outfit called Pittsburgh Organizing Group to occupy a recruiting [...]

]]> By: This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Busy week planned http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-266223 This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Busy week planned Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:35:59 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-266223 [...] “Day of Action” here in DC starting at about 7:30 AM (they say). ANSWER plans to block recruiting stations, traffic, and just generally pester people trying to make a living in the K Street area all to mark [...] [...] “Day of Action” here in DC starting at about 7:30 AM (they say). ANSWER plans to block recruiting stations, traffic, and just generally pester people trying to make a living in the K Street area all to mark [...]

]]> By: NHMagenta http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265602 NHMagenta Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:49:24 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265602 RE: #66: I know this is a debatable issue however legally the USA is *not* at war; a Congressional Declaration of War is required for laws like 18 USC 115 §2388 to be used. Certainly there are many other things the Bush regime could be doing about disruptive antiwar protestors such as obtaining injunctions in Federal court against groups and persons known to cross the line between free speech and unlawful actions such as vandalism and obstruction of sidewalks, roads and railways....which it TTBOMK has *not* done. The War Party hardly learned a g*d* thing from Vietnam, namely a war of the scale and intensity of Vietnam and Iraq II involving occupation of foreign territory with a large number of indigenous hostiles requires a Congressional Declaration of War followed by war powers and anti-sedition laws .... and full mobilization. Absent the above, there will never be success for America, only for its enemies which are strengthened by the internal hatreds, loss of American prestige and economic chaos which wars like Vietnam and Iraq cause. RE: #66:

I know this is a debatable issue however legally the USA is *not* at war; a Congressional Declaration of War is required for laws like 18 USC 115 §2388 to be used.

Certainly there are many other things the Bush regime could be doing about disruptive antiwar protestors such as obtaining injunctions in Federal court against groups and persons known to cross the line between free speech and unlawful actions such as vandalism and obstruction of sidewalks, roads and railways….which it TTBOMK has *not* done.

The War Party hardly learned a g*d* thing from Vietnam, namely a war of the scale and intensity of Vietnam and Iraq II involving occupation of foreign territory with a large number of indigenous hostiles requires a Congressional Declaration of War followed by war powers and anti-sedition laws …. and full mobilization.

Absent the above, there will never be success for America, only for its enemies which are strengthened by the internal hatreds, loss of American prestige and economic chaos which wars like Vietnam and Iraq cause.

]]> By: Prime Director http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265530 Prime Director Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:54:04 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265530 First, lgm claimed <blockquote>So far this year, there has been more violence against abortion clinics than against military recruiters.</blockquote> Then, when challenged to provide a source for his claim, he cited a wikipedia article, which lists exactly 3 incidents in the last 365 days (I'll be generous and assume that he meant "within the last 365 days" and not "since the beginning of the most recent calendar year, 2008") <blockquote>April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device. May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia. December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico.</blockquote> And how many incidents against military recruiters have there been in the last 365 days? Sufficeth to say, <em>more than 3</em>. <blockquote>Jan. 2007. Anti-war radicals lay siege to the US Capitol and smash windows at the recruitment center on 14th and L. March 2007. A Milwaukee recruitment station is vandalized as part of nationwide protests on the fourth anniversary of the Iraq war July 2007. A Bremerton, WA teenager is charged with felony for slashing 42 government tires of Army recruiting vehicles in retaliation of the Iraq war & In Maryland, anti-recruiter vandals smashed a Rockville Air Force recruitment center & in Lufkin, TX, , Army and Navy recruiters were the targets of vandals who keyed their cars, smashed their windows, and shot at their vehicles with “with what appeared to be a high-powered pellet gun.” etc., etc. </blockquote> By my count, there have been at least 10 separate incidents of violence directed at military recruiters within the last 365 days. There's a complete list <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/07/special-report-tracing-the-lefts-escalating-war-on-military-recruiters/" rel="nofollow">here</a> at MM.com. math-boy (aka lgm): 3 < 10 : ) First, lgm claimed

So far this year, there has been more violence against abortion clinics than against military recruiters.

Then, when challenged to provide a source for his claim, he cited a wikipedia article, which lists exactly 3 incidents in the last 365 days (I’ll be generous and assume that he meant “within the last 365 days” and not “since the beginning of the most recent calendar year, 2008″)

April 25, 2007: A package left at a women’s health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device.

May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

And how many incidents against military recruiters have there been in the last 365 days?

Sufficeth to say, more than 3.

Jan. 2007. Anti-war radicals lay siege to the US Capitol and smash windows at the recruitment center on 14th and L.

March 2007. A Milwaukee recruitment station is vandalized as part of nationwide protests on the fourth anniversary of the Iraq war

July 2007. A Bremerton, WA teenager is charged with felony for slashing 42 government tires of Army recruiting vehicles in retaliation of the Iraq war

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In Maryland, anti-recruiter vandals smashed a Rockville Air Force recruitment center

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in Lufkin, TX, , Army and Navy recruiters were the targets of vandals who keyed their cars, smashed their windows, and shot at their vehicles with “with what appeared to be a high-powered pellet gun.”

etc., etc.

By my count, there have been at least 10 separate incidents of violence directed at military recruiters within the last 365 days.

There’s a complete list here at MM.com.

math-boy (aka lgm): 3 < 10

: )

]]> By: garyt http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265452 garyt Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:00:13 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265452 LGM ,, when the Allies liberated the nazi death camps and I suppose some German troops and officers were killed protecting them. Was it wrong for the allies to kill those Germans even though they were slaughtering innocents? You don't seem to mind the slaughter that goes on in the abortion clinics. Another question for you LGM who is responsible for the deaths in Iraq? Not sure how many of the troops use blow themselves up in civilian centers in the name of Allah. I have never heard American troops doing that so what murders are they doing now? LGM ,, when the Allies liberated the nazi death camps and I suppose some German troops and officers were killed protecting them. Was it wrong for the allies to kill those Germans even though they were slaughtering innocents? You don’t seem to mind the slaughter that goes on in the abortion clinics. Another question for you LGM who is responsible for the deaths in Iraq? Not sure how many of the troops use blow themselves up in civilian centers in the name of Allah. I have never heard American troops doing that so what murders are they doing now?

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » Document drop: Unclassified memo warns military personnel of anti-war threats to recruiters, Army installations/facilities http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265396 Michelle Malkin » Document drop: Unclassified memo warns military personnel of anti-war threats to recruiters, Army installations/facilities Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:48:00 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265396 [...] to my reporting on the Left’s escalating war against military recruiters, a source sent me the following unclassified memo issued this week warning military personnel and [...] [...] to my reporting on the Left’s escalating war against military recruiters, a source sent me the following unclassified memo issued this week warning military personnel and [...]

]]> By: UberInfidel67 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265392 UberInfidel67 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:37:12 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265392 Let me explain something here: Pittsburgh is chock FULL of angry ex-steelworkers. We DO NOT bash our military around here. We may not be as culturally "enlightened" as some of the bigger cities in this country, but we hold our service personnel dear to us. I guaran - friggin - tee that someone will get seriously hurt at this deplorable gathering. It will be from some ex-military man (maybe woman?) who is gonna bust someone in their mouth for spouting off about our brave men and women serving our nation. We have class here....but not too much to make us rule out violence when we feel it is necessary to make OUR point. Let me explain something here: Pittsburgh is chock FULL of angry ex-steelworkers. We DO NOT bash our military around here. We may not be as culturally “enlightened” as some of the bigger cities in this country, but we hold our service personnel dear to us. I guaran – friggin – tee that someone will get seriously hurt at this deplorable gathering. It will be from some ex-military man (maybe woman?) who is gonna bust someone in their mouth for spouting off about our brave men and women serving our nation. We have class here….but not too much to make us rule out violence when we feel it is necessary to make OUR point.

]]> By: jeffislouie http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265381 jeffislouie Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:12:47 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265381 Hmmm. I wonder how well this protest will go when the recruiters brandish their sidearms and legally defend their office and themselves? I would like nothing more than for Congress to declare all military recruiting offices as property of the military, subject to miltary rules. That would mean that they would, in effect, be considered the same as US embassies, and subject to the same rules authorizing the use of force... Wouldn't it be nice if the police did their job and prevented peaceful protests from becoming not peaceful? Screw these toads. Military recruitment is not a legitimate target for the anti-war crowd. If you want to protest, that's fine. But when your protest includes plans to 'take' the space and illegaly imprison citizens, you have gone too far. Let this serve as a warning to all the neo-hippie, misinformed, peaceniks out there: at some point, the average american will tire of your nonsense and start reacting with physically manifested anger. Don't like military recruiters? Then you aren't an American and don't deserve the protections and freedoms afforded you by our military. Perhaps the best way to handle this is to pull up stakes in every city and state where these protestors thrive, then pull all federal funding and assistance. Watch those areas crumble without the federal support. Screw them. Don't like freedom? Don't approve of recruiters? Get the hell out of our country. Hmmm. I wonder how well this protest will go when the recruiters brandish their sidearms and legally defend their office and themselves?
I would like nothing more than for Congress to declare all military recruiting offices as property of the military, subject to miltary rules.
That would mean that they would, in effect, be considered the same as US embassies, and subject to the same rules authorizing the use of force…
Wouldn’t it be nice if the police did their job and prevented peaceful protests from becoming not peaceful?
Screw these toads.
Military recruitment is not a legitimate target for the anti-war crowd. If you want to protest, that’s fine. But when your protest includes plans to ‘take’ the space and illegaly imprison citizens, you have gone too far.
Let this serve as a warning to all the neo-hippie, misinformed, peaceniks out there: at some point, the average american will tire of your nonsense and start reacting with physically manifested anger.
Don’t like military recruiters? Then you aren’t an American and don’t deserve the protections and freedoms afforded you by our military.
Perhaps the best way to handle this is to pull up stakes in every city and state where these protestors thrive, then pull all federal funding and assistance.
Watch those areas crumble without the federal support.
Screw them. Don’t like freedom? Don’t approve of recruiters? Get the hell out of our country.

]]> By: Dimsdale http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265366 Dimsdale Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:45:54 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265366 On March 12th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, JoAnn in VA said: <blockquote>I wonder if there is any way that the recruiting centers can be outfitted with an automatic sprinkler system which can be turned on and off from inside the building- to spray clear the side walk out front. You know, just to help keep it clean and tidy, like a good public place of business should. The fact that the spray would start at say, roof height and shoot cold water straight down, well…you would have to install it where it can fit easily, right?</blockquote> I understand that water cannons, mounted as you suggest, are particularly effective at washing trash off the sidewalks. Probably several hundred feet of adjacent street and sidewalks as well. I am all for urban beautification! On March 12th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, JoAnn in VA said:

I wonder if there is any way that the recruiting centers can be outfitted with an automatic sprinkler system which can be turned on and off from inside the building- to spray clear the side walk out front. You know, just to help keep it clean and tidy, like a good public place of business should. The fact that the spray would start at say, roof height and shoot cold water straight down, well…you would have to install it where it can fit easily, right?

I understand that water cannons, mounted as you suggest, are particularly effective at washing trash off the sidewalks. Probably several hundred feet of adjacent street and sidewalks as well.

I am all for urban beautification!

]]> By: Helene http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265291 Helene Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:49:42 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265291 To the supporters of these crazies, this is not about the troops or about recruitment centers. It's about these crazies refusing to allow anyone to disagree. This is right out of Animal Farm... To the supporters of these crazies, this is not about the troops or about recruitment centers. It’s about these crazies refusing to allow anyone to disagree.

This is right out of Animal Farm…

]]> By: Helene http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265287 Helene Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:47:26 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265287 These people are really scary. I can't understand the anger. I hope and pray that these people are reported to the appropriate police groups. Terrorists are terrorists. We cannot back down. These "brave" souls cover their faces and hide behind computer screens. They are no different from the cowards hiding behind women, children, and innocent men. It always amazes me the way the inmans and leaders always encourage other people to blow themselves up, but never make the ultimate sacrifice themselves. These people are really scary. I can’t understand the anger.

I hope and pray that these people are reported to the appropriate police groups. Terrorists are terrorists. We cannot back down.

These “brave” souls cover their faces and hide behind computer screens. They are no different from the cowards hiding behind women, children, and innocent men.

It always amazes me the way the inmans and leaders always encourage other people to blow themselves up, but never make the ultimate sacrifice themselves.

]]> By: terrig http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265283 terrig Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:42:49 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265283 LGM,you're an a$$. You cloak yourself in saying "some say" while always mentioning they are killers. You are a sad excuse for an American. You have not served, you think it's beneath you, you mock those who do while praisingthe abortionist. Sad, sad, ugly hearted man. LGM,you’re an a$$. You cloak yourself in saying “some say” while always mentioning they are killers. You are a sad excuse for an American. You have not served, you think it’s beneath you, you mock those who do while praisingthe abortionist. Sad, sad, ugly hearted man.

]]> By: lgm http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-265246 lgm Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:52:25 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/12/the-anti-recruiter-movement-bombs-vandalism-assassination-threats-and-now-a-call-to-cage-the-troops/#comment-265246 terrig: please learn to read. I did not say troops are killers. I said that some feel that way. There is a difference. SHoward: by "this year" I meant within the past year (less than a year ago), not the calendar year. terrig: please learn to read. I did not say troops are killers. I said that some feel that way. There is a difference.

SHoward: by “this year” I meant within the past year (less than a year ago), not the calendar year.

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