Not to be too snarky, but I actually have a job which requires my attention most often (hence the lack of many posts from me), therefore your “you don’t get around the internet much” is true, but not in the way you tried to cleverly (sic) present it. The lynching analogy was me attempting to be sarcastic, which I thought you would get…guess not.

Your link: “Political arguments are used by academics, media pundits, candidates for political office and government officials. Political arguments are also used by citizens in ordinary interactions to comment about and understand political events.” I wasn’t arguing (sic) with you about politics, but rather I was stating my agreement with Michelle and others about the MSM’s slant toward certain public officals and their leanings – not necessarily political as per your definition. It could have been about dog food, or the price of rice, and my argument would have been the same had you not seen the underlying theme of what Michelle was trying to say.

You say that GF is “getting skewered by the left”, and that may be true (once again, with me having no time really to “get around the internet”), but a quick check to the major news sites (MSNBC, CNN, FoxNews, even DailyKos)at 18:00 Central and the only thing is an apology from HRC to all the black voters on CNN. Skewered?

There is no “double standard” for conservatives. You’re reading into things things which are just not there..

People here are calling her “racist” for simply stating her perspective on the question. Liberals have made certain facts and certain opinions forbidden because they do not support their agenda on race relations, and to offer an objective opinion that opposes it makes one “racist.” The objective truth of the matter is irrelevant.

Now we see the “conservatives” going along with that. erbarker (apparently NOT a Democrat) at #21 is a perfect example:

Actually, this is very good. The whole world is learning what a bunch of hypocrites and racist the democrats are. Th[a]nk you Geraldine!

This person calls her “racist,” and yet all she did was offer an objective opinion on the nature of Hussein’s success. It is NOT racist to suggest people are reacting a certain way toward someone due to their race. Yet because her statement undercuts the alleged ability of a “person of color” to succeed by universal means, it is racist. If a person suggests people are voting for Hillary because she is White, they are not considered racist; rather, they are accusing some Hillary supporters of racism.

It is a Left-favoring double standard, and “conservatives” here and elsewhere are adopting it.

You are sadly mistaken – i never called you a liar

January 23, 2008

When you say Romney “personally profited from investments that involved selling a maker of national defense technology to a Chinese company that supported Saddam and the Taliban.” that is an outright lie.

I did not call you a liar, but did make disparaging remarks…

Your decision to call me a liar and to make disparging remarks alluding to sex acts is vitriolic. I know you don’t understand that but most people would.

I won’t respond to your posts unless they are directed at me.

And we agree on the dems agenda. Still, you don’t seem to understand what a ‘political argument’ is.

http://www.answers.com/political+argument?cat=biz-fin

JHSII # 38 – calling me a troll is commonly done on the Kos site. I see that nutroot argument is now taking hold here – don’t disagree or you’ll be called a troll.

Or a liar – which is what you called me when I posted an easily verifiable fact about your boy Mitt. BTW, are you still clinging to him like one of his custom made shirts? Never mind, what you do with your “Mitts” in the privacy of your own home is none of my business.

But to complain about “…vitriolic criticism…” is certainly hypocritical on your part.

/OT

PS – I actually do think GF was right, but dumb not to think that the further left wouldn’t make her pay.

mlnicosia #28: I don’t recall making a political argument … (backtracking, proof reading) … nope, nothing there. Unless you’re reading into something that I’m unaware of (and as it was my post, I’d say not likely).

What I did say, so there’s no room for confusion through implication on your part, is that, in agreement with Michelle and JHSII, if a conservative had stated the same thing as GF did, the media would have gone to town with it and brought out the nooses for a lynching (or am I not allowed to use that analogy?). The underlying duplicity is in the kid gloves the media uses for their favored sons and (former) daughters .

Now back to your “political argument”; of course the dems don’t want to “hear any implications of racism” because they’re still trying to push the big happy family atmosphere to everyone, so naturally they can’t have one candidate (’s staff member) call out the other on the basis of skin color – that would just be spiritual non-creaminess. Duh! Is that what kind of “logical argument” you’re looking for?

JHSII # 38 – calling me a troll is commonly done on the Kos site. I see that nutroot argument is now taking hold here – don’t disagree or you’ll be called a troll.

I didn’t call you a troll until you repeatedly, deliberately and purposefully took things out of context in order to take shots at Michelle and other posters here. Now that you’re accusing me of acting like those at the daily kos you’re proving me right.

You have proven yourself to be a liar and a troll and from now on I will treat you as such.

I certainly don’t support her overall agenda but she is spot on regarding BHO’s success.

Well i’ve been writing in support of Mitt for so long… just do a search pal.

Your statement that “If it wasn’t a fact, then she would never have said it. If she knew the conequences – from the left – then she’s smart enough to keep her mouth shut.” is just more opinion. Theres no ‘fact’ there. If anything your statement seems dichotomous – was she “smart enough” or not?

There are many people on both the left and right who agree with her. I do. Your opinion that she would not have said it if she knew the consequences is nothing more than your opinion – thats not obvious to you so we are done.

I clearly made a point that “many people are supporting BHO simply because he is black and that is a racial decision.”

As for the polls – yes – there have been numerous polls that clearly show he gets more votes for being black. That was not an opinion its an easily researched fact.

You don’t see HRC getting 90% of the white vote or 90% of the women vote. So GF is simply putting it on the table – in total he gets more votes and he is leading by votes because he is a black man.

Your right tho – he does not get more votes in every state. Not all states have a large enough black population or ultra liberal whites to put him ahead (VT for one).

Where do you get the chutzpah to say “Geraldine Ferraro didn’t care about the “political consequences” because she honestly believed there would be none.”

Since when is it “chutzpah” to state a fact?

How do you know this for a fact?

If it wasn’t a fact, then she would never have said it. If she knew the conequences – from the left – then she’s smart enough to keep her mouth shut.

Its a big statement for you to make considering the charges of racisim being made. So what makes your statement fact vs just propaganda?

Did you even bother reading what I posted?
The issue isn’t racism.

Considering whats at stake and for the cause of truth and logic in political argument how can you seriously make a statement like “It also doesn’t matter if what she said is true or not.”

You again miss the point. Maybe you should read what I said IN CONTEXT. If you want to start doing that, then maybe we can have a conversation.

Your point that “The point is that Geraldine Ferraro opened her mouth and said something that would have gotten any Republican who said it drummed off the public stage…” is meaningful in what way? She has been drummed off the stage? So to imply that somehow she is being treated differently doesn’t have any basis in fact or logic – just more propaganda.

My point is fact – no propaganda from me. At this point I’m starting to think that you are a troll. Care to prove me wrong?