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1. #1
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:28 am, JHSII said:

   ACORN is still in business?

   No surprise on what they’re doing, just that they still exist.

2. #2
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:29 am, geminicontender said:

   Where are the Republican leaders in all of this. Does not one have a backbone? I sit and watch the Democratic party implode. Well, I believe the Republican party is imploding also……they do nothing, nothing to fight these socialists. Hmmmmmm.

3. #3
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:32 am, letget said:

   MM, I had to laugh out loud at blaming the post office for not serving low income houses. What a hoot!! I bet those people get their food stamps, etc. at their home addresses at taxpayers expense.
   L

4. #4
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:34 am, Regulus said:

   As I noted twice in January, the Dems are pushing to pour more money into ACORN’s coffers under the guise of the economic stimulus expansion. In other words: more Washington investment in voter fraud.

   Or, as the donkeys have become fond of saying since 2006, “Elections have consequences.” This is one reason why I’m skeptical of people who say, “Let the donks win in 2008 and take the blame for things, then we’ll clean up in 2012.” Uh, that’s if by 2012 the donks and their minions like ACORN haven’t in that interval so completely perverted voter registration with cartoon character voters, dead voters, illegal alien voters and multiple personality voters as to make it impossible for a Republican to win anything.

   Want to know how I can tell that my three cats are Republicans? Because if they were democrats, they’d be registered to vote.

5. #5
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:50 am, JimC214 said:

   Food stamps aren’t mailed any more. They get a benefit card and each month the amount is automatically transfered to it. They just go to the store and swipe the card.

6. #6
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:55 am, JHSII said:

   JimC214 - I’m not going to say it, it’s way too easy LOLOL

7. #7
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:56 am, NeoConNews said:

   Oh those rascals. I wonder if Rove is behind it.

8. #8
   On March 13th, 2008 at 11:57 am, taylork said:

   Here in Philly, ACORN has a dilapitated building off N. Broad St that I pass by on my way home from work. I was never even sure that it was still inhabitated considering the building is in such bad shape.

   I can’t say I’ve seen them around collecting signitures throughout the city. I work with a lot of the distressed communities throughout the city and have heard any of the residents I work with mention any voter registration drive. So unless they’re all doing it at their shabby office that doesn’t look open, ‘m not surpised they’re making stuff up.

9. #9
   On March 13th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Chief RZ said:

   ACORN is just one group of devious people attempting to undermine our government with voter fraud.

10. #10
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, ex-expat said:

    The post office also gets blamed when I tussle with one of the credit card companies, whos card I hold, over late fees. I mail at least 5 business days before payment due date, which ought to be plenty of time for mail delvery. But I have been infomred otherwise.

11. #11
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, jsr said:

    Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters.

    Just a little Obama trivia few people know.

12. #12
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, Boomer said:

    No wonder the reports of an increase in the amount of people that identify themselves as Democrats. ACORN is doing a bang up job of working for the Democrats on my dime. I will write my Congress critters, but seriously doubt any of them have the stones to stop funds going to this gravy train. Our country is being stolen from right under us by this type of action. With the increase of overt voter fraud by the Democrats and their minions it is just a matter of time before anyone opposed to the liberal agenda will no longer have a voice via the ballot box (in most metropolitan areas it is already to late). Thank God the founding fathers gave us the 2nd Amendment, because that may soon be the only way we can take this country back from those that want to turn it into a Socialist nightmare.

13. #13
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, maurelius said:

    I wonder if they really believe its the post office responsible for maintaining addresses. My guess is they are grasping at straws.

    Municipalities are responsible for issuing and maintaining addresses. When we broke ground I had to measure from the center of the neighbor’s driveway to the center of our proposed driveway and submit that information to the building inspector when I applied for my building permit. The county then issued the address.

    With the exception of PO boxes if the city says the address is invalid its invalid and the post office has nothing to do with it.

14. #14
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, ajmontana said:

    Shocker!

15. #15
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Dandapani said:

    “Count every vote, every vote counts!” — Democratic code-speak for voter fraud…

16. #16
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, taylork said:

    It’s interesting that they’d get caught doing it too. I’m not sure why they’d have to make up addresses when they could easily find abandoned buildings and use them as addresses.

    As an example,the neighborhood of Point Breeze contains 12760 parcels of land. I did of survey of abandoned properties inthe area and about 1170 of those parcels are abandoned buildings, with another 1000+ being abandoned lots. Extrapolate this percentage to the entire city’s 560,000+ parcels and you have an easy recipe for fraud.

    The mail carrier will still service those areas, so it’d be easy enough to go back and take your new registration card, if you know when it’s being mailed out.

    Furtermore, their excuse of the post office not serving low income communities is an outright lie. The postal service is helping the city, as well as the big low income housing developer/financer TRF to track abandoned houses (Click on the neighborhood properties tab if you visit the link). Hence, the post office’s prescense in these “low-income communities” is quite large, as they’re the only government agency that regularly visits these areas (and they also deliver mail there too :).

17. #17
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “…the Dems are pushing to pour more money into ACORN’s coffers under the guise of the economic stimulus expansion.”

    Hey, for a party with members that laughingly attempted to justify as a personal matter one of the party’s brightest stars spending eighty thousand bucks on hookers - despite the number of money laundering laws that were broken - it only follows that they would try to spin pouring tax dollars into ACORN’s coffers as stimulus expansion!

18. #18
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Pat said:

    Obama has been totally involved with ACORN and they support him now. This is ‘new’ politics? I have always thought he would be easier to beat than Hillary once this stuff comes out, like his pastor and his leftist background. I sure hope this doesn’t kill off his candicacy. Acorn Ohio Hiring

19. #19
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, taylork said:

    Michelle, if you can somehow get me the list of suspected registrations I can check certain addresses against my abandoned properties database in a matter of hours.

20. #20
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I bet those people get their food stamps, etc. at their home addresses at taxpayers expense.

    Oh, and don’t forget their welfare checks too.

21. #21
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, TexasTiger said:

    Acorn blames the post office for not adequately servicing low-income communities.

    Is there any community the Postal Service serves adequately?

22. #22
    On March 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm, coffee260 said:

    Thank ACORN (And Co) For Mortgage Crisis
    From Sweetness &Light:
     

    THE REAL SCANDAL

    HOW FEDS INVITED THE MORTGAGE MESS

    By STAN LIEBOWITZ

    February 5, 2008 — PERHAPS the greatest scandal of the mortgage crisis is that it is a direct result of an intentional loosening of underwriting standards - done in the name of ending discrimination, despite warnings that it could lead to wide-scale defaults.

    At the crisis’ core are loans that were made with virtually nonexistent underwriting standards - no verification of income or assets; little consideration of the applicant’s ability to make payments; no down payment.

    Most people instinctively understand that such loans are likely to be unsound. But how did the heavily-regulated banking industry end up able to engage in such foolishness?

    From the current hand-wringing, you’d think that the banks came up with the idea of looser underwriting standards on their own, with regulators just asleep on the job. In fact, it was the regulators who relaxed these
    standards - at the behest of community groups and “progressive” political forces.

    In the 1980s, groups such as the activists at ACORN began pushing charges of “redlining” - claims that banks discriminated against minorities in mortgage lending. In 1989, sympathetic members of Congress got the Home Mortgage Disclosure Act amended to force banks to collect racial data on mortgage applicants; this allowed various studies to be ginned up that seemed to validate the original accusation.

    …

     

23. #23
    On March 13th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, txvet2 said:

    The mail carrier will still service those areas, so it’d be easy enough to go back and take your new registration card, if you know when it’s being mailed out.

    Maybe, but he’s not supposed to, if the building is obviously unoccupied, or to a vacant lot (no mailbox). Not that all carriers are that attentive or motivated.

24. #24
    On March 13th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, nyc123me said:

    Of course the dems will pour more money into ACORN - they get more votes without any responsibility for the fraud used to get those votes, should they get caught. Brilliant!

    This country has become a stinking cesspit of corruption - the Constitution is little more than expensive toilet paper to todays political elite.

25. #25
    On March 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, BobK said:

    Yep, saw a bunch of these critters standing around out side of the Palmer House Hotel (in Chicago) the other day. They were carrying signs that said “Please Don’t Foreclose On Our Future”.

    As MM would say - Suck It UP

26. #26
    On March 13th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, trailortrash said:

    Want to know how I can tell that my three cats are Republicans? Because if they were democrats, they’d be registered to vote.

    hahaha Nice one lol

    i didn’t think acorn was still around after all the past bs.

27. #27
    On March 13th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, JsinGood said:

    Acorn blames the post office for not adequately servicing low-income communities.

    Why is that liberals always throw nebulous accusations of blame around like this, yet can never seem to specify exactly HOW the injustices are being perpetuated?

    It’s like those constant claims of “institutionalized racism.” Vague and bogus.

28. #28
    On March 13th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, jcflindsay said:

    We are being gamed. It is my opinion that one should be a literate property owner before being allowed to vote. Otherwise a voter is merely a slave awaiting instructions from their master. The purpose of democracy is defeated when drones replace thinking persons of free will.

29. #29
    On March 13th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, lgm said:

    The articles accuse ACORN of sloppiness and inaccuracy, but not deliberate fraud. Are there cases of ACORN registrations resulting in actual fraudulent voting? Maybe someone voting twice or a non-citizen voting? My quick googling didn’t produce any.

    On the other hand, Republican vote manipulation has had real impact — voter ID laws keeping old poor people who don’t drive away, Ohio (Republican secretary of state) putting too few and faulty voting machines in Democratic districts, Florida (Republican Governors) purging non-felons from voting rolls.

    If you’re going to complain about inaccurate voting, try to figure out who has the most actual impact on voting counts.

30. #30
    On March 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, DanMan said:

    Man lgm I know your fishing for equivalence but as anyone who is watching the hilarious machinations of the democrat primary process in Texas, if you can still claim voter IDs disenfranchise voters after watching what their constituents go through in the primary process then you are simply a hypocrit, big, fat and simple.

31. #31
    On March 13th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, LC said:

    The post office also gets blamed when I tussle with one of the credit card companies, whos card I hold, over late fees. I mail at least 5 business days before payment due date, which ought to be plenty of time for mail delvery. But I have been infomred otherwise.

    So let me get this straight - you’re obviously familiar enough with a computer to read and chat online at this site yet you still mail in your payments on credit card bills? I have to ask…why? And if your bank doesn’t offer some type of online web billpay service, why are you still with them? Oh, by the way, they get your payment letter in time, everytime. They just like to do this thinking that some portion of their client-base will think they were late and just roll over and pay the “fee.” They’re trying to scam you - wise up.

32. #32
    On March 13th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, taylork said:

    On the other hand, Republican vote manipulation has had real impact — voter ID laws keeping old poor people who don’t drive away, Ohio (Republican secretary of state) putting too few and faulty voting machines in Democratic districts, Florida (Republican Governors) purging non-felons from voting rolls.

    Geez lgm, the only people that have been proven to engage in any sort of voting sheenanigans are the dems, ACORN specifically. Whereas these other things are nothing more than conspiratorial talking points used by sore losers.

33. #33
    On March 13th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, geminicontender said:

    Who loves ACORNS the most? Squirrels. Rodents. Earth dwellers. Enough said.

34. #34
    On March 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, geminicontender said:

    Basically, bottom feeders.

35. #35
    On March 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, Chuck said:

    Anybody heard of RICO?? If this was Shell Oil they’d be in front of sixteen Congressional committees right now and then 10 to 20 in the barbed wire hotel.

    Besides (being from Chicago) I understood that the Demoncrats were grandfathered on voting the graveyards, because they can show proof they’ve been doing it for over a hundred years.

36. #36
    On March 13th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, lgm said:

    Document one person voting illegally because ACORN. You have the whole world wide web at your disposal. Gentlemen (and ladies) start your (search) engines.

    Florida took thousands of legitimate voters off the rolls “by mistake”. That “mistake” changed the result of a presidential election. Four years later, Ohio provided inadequate voting machines in Democratic districts, probably throwing that election as well.

37. #37
    On March 13th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    They quoted the guilty pleas to ACRON’s vote registration fraud just up the page.

    lgm are you really that stupid or are you just trying hard to look that way?

38. #38
    On March 13th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, normsrevenge said:

    Cool.. More ACORN shenanigans.

    Michelle, Love the ad for Royal Caribbean, we’ll be Panama Canalling next month.

39. #39
    On March 13th, 2008 at 7:21 pm, lgm said:

    Ordinary Coloradan (#37):

    They quoted the guilty pleas to ACRON’s vote registration fraud just up the page.

    Granted, there were errors in registration materials. My question is: did anyone vote illegally because of this? The reports of fraud I read before involved minimum wage workers making up names and addresses to make a quota. Even if they got on the rolls, those imaginary people could not actually have voted because they don’t exist.

40. #40
    On March 13th, 2008 at 9:08 pm, Prime Director said:

    The reports of fraud I read before involved minimum wage workers

    Last I heard, ACORN refused to pay its workers minimum wage.

    Acorn is vulnerable to charges it doesn’t practice what it preaches. Its manual for minimum-wage campaigns says it intends “to push for as high a wage as possible.” But it doesn’t pay those wages. In 2004 Acorn won a $9.50 an hour minimum wage in Santa Fe, N.M., for example, but pays its organizers $25,000 a year for a required 54-hour week–$8.90 an hour. This year Acorn had workers in Missouri sign contracts saying they would be “working up to 80 hours over seven days of work.” Mr. Rathke says “We pay as much as we can. If people can get more elsewhere, we wish them well.”

    In 1995 Acorn unsuccessfully sued California to be exempt from the minimum wage, claiming that “the more that Acorn must pay each individual outreach worker . . . the fewer outreach workers it will be able to hire.” Mr. Rathke acknowledges higher wages can cost some jobs but that the raises for other workers are worth it.

    ACORN believes everyone else should pay their workers the minimum wage.

    Oh, and are we to beleive that ACORN goes to the trouble of registering convicted felons, former residents who moved away decades ago and never returned, minors and the dead… but doesn’t intend to commit voter fraud? And at the same time, we’re supposed to believe that

    voter ID laws keeping old poor people who don’t drive away, Ohio (Republican secretary of state) putting too few and faulty voting machines in Democratic districts, Florida (Republican Governors) purging non-felons from voting rolls

    all represent intentional and purposeful fraud?

    BTW, do you have any documented proof that those who were prevented from voting would have in fact voted democrat on the day in question? You have the whole world wide web at your disposal, etc., etc.

41. #41
    On March 13th, 2008 at 9:58 pm, taylork said:

    The reports of fraud I read before involved minimum wage workers making up names and addresses to make a quota.

    So what you’re saying is that voter registration fraud is ok.

42. #42
    On March 14th, 2008 at 1:42 am, garyt said:

    LGM take a look at Washington State governors race in 2004 and find out how the Demos stole that election. I know you feel that wrong doing is all morally relative and you probably see nothing wrong with the Washington case since you don’t believe in sin. Remember sin hits every individual and no one escapes it.

43. #43
    On March 14th, 2008 at 5:42 am, thegreatbeast said:

    Why doesn’t the Justice Department file a RICO indictment against these bastards? These punks have been doing these things systematically for years. It seems like an easy case to make.

44. #44
    On March 14th, 2008 at 4:19 pm, lgm said:

    garyt said (#42):

    Take a look at Washington State governors race in 2004 and find out how the Demos stole that election.

    There was nothing there. Part of the US Attorney scandal was Gonzalez trying to force the US Attorney to bring charges even though the evidence was thin.