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Offensive is in the eye of the beholder.
There is no right to NOT be offended.
Yeah, because forced marriage is one of those issues that we need to remain fair and balanced about.
Eugh.
I didn’t see the “I” or “M” word anywhere in that whole story.
The images are hard hitting to someone…we just aren’t sure who I guess.
Forced or arranged marriages are quite traditional in some cultures. I’ve known a few fellows who were going home to India to meet their future wife and get married. Considering the divorce rate and number of miserable people here, a pre-arranged union by one’s parents, assuming they have everyone’s best interest in mind, might not be a bad idea.
I see a strategy against those explicit ads meant to tweek US conservatives by liberal creators such as Benneton, Kenneth Cole, Abercrombie and Fitch, etc.
Just get the ball of inevitable “censorship” rolling by worrying aloud how Muslims might react.
Forcing kids to marry just to get more land or goats or whatever dowry might be available is not cool man, not cool.
This kind of crap may fly in India or any land of perpetual outrage where goats and cattle mean something, but in the civilized world we like our marriages short and painful. Well not all of course, some people do beat the odds.
Taters, tell that to the 9, 11, or 14 year-olds being forced into marriage with a 40 and 50 year-old men. In most ‘free’ countries, there are laws against carnal knowledge before a certain age (16 comes to mind in most cases, sometimes 18, like in the U.S.) So, any country that allows forced marriages to a student, is allowing child molestation. Any country that prohibits child molestation should be condemnign forced marriages.
That doesn’t even take into account the civic rights of citizens. An 18 year-old girl in this country has the right to choose her husband. No if’s-and’s-or but’s. If she is being forced into a marriage not of her choosing, than her civic rights are being violated. England is suppose to be the same way.
Where’s the ACLU and N.O.W.?
*crickets*
Precisely. I reserve the exclusive to offend and to be offended.
exclusive right*
The skin color of the hands is definitely middle eastern or Arabic. Those hands are not British for sure. being Arabic I recognize this at least. However, I am not a Muslim, my grandfather was, God bless his soul, when he came to the US. he decided he was Christian now that he was a US citizen, as this is a Christian country. At least that was his personal thought process on the matter, of course he came during the years of 1888 and 1903.
But as stated before no one has the right to NOT be offended. As a Christian I have learned this lesson. Those that get offended and go off the end are not filled with the Love Of Christ and love for their Fellow Man. Something Islam is seriously lacking…
After reading that article, I’m left wondering who it is that is fording children to marry? Maybe Poles? Cockney cabbies? Vicars? Irish? Are Leeds and Luton the Jewish towns?
Just who is it taking 9 and 10 year old girls out of school and forcing them to marry grown men? Hmmmm, I’m relying on the paper to give me information, but they’ve somehow left it out. Can someone help me, I seem to have missed a crucial fact in the story.
Since today is Friday we should have rioting in the streets right after the Mosques empty out. I fear the once mighty British Empire is truly doomed to part of the European Caliphate.
I second MrVIBEMAN, who said it better than I could.
The entire notion of arranged marriage bothers me. Granted, there are some of-age women and men who (for cultural reasons) are okay with it. There are some rather conservative approaches to marriage from many fronts. I know a Christian couple who has dated for many years, is engaged, and will be married in June. They have not touched or kissed in accordance with their beliefs on chastity. I find it a little too rigid, but that was their free choice. Likewise, if a 20-year-old Indian woman wants her parents to arrange a marriage, I guess it’s her free choice, too.
But many, many women aren’t allowed that freedom. And there’ve be stories of honor killings, maimings, and the like for a woman who refuses marriage. Little girls are given to much older men (read: old enough to be her grandfather). And we all know the purpose of it - sex. A perverted sexual mentality.
You can’t combat a problem if you’re not willing to face it head-on. Dancing around the issue is just a waste of time.
The more England retreats behind the veil of political correctness, the closer it comes to being an extension of the Middle East.
I have heard this type crap so much that I think I am getting the hang of it. So I will give it a try. I am offended that Muslims are offended. Behead those who offend Ron Rockstar.
I could care less if Muslims are offended.
God save us from political correctness run amok. If people who engage in these practices wish to continue their ways, then they shouldn’t emigrate from countries where such practices are considered wrong, or even illegal. If they don’t wish to respect the customs of their host country, they should leave. Of course that doesn’t help the poor children who are forced into what is tantamount to slavery. The parents should be found and made to account for their missing children. And jailed if necessary.
What I meant to say was they shouldn’t immigrate to countries where such practices are considered wrong..etc.
In the interest of fairness, Mrs. Malkin should probably edit that to “Muslims and Hindus might be offended.”
When I go on my gay marriage spiel, I often describe marriage as a fundamental right. So forced marriage is an abomination to me. That two people can be trapped with life sentences like that is horrible. It’s not something people should be turning a blind eye to. So I applaud the creators of that poster. Good for them.
#9…I think I’d argue that WE ALL have the the ability to offend. To do so exclusively, for your own pleasure, wouldn’t be viewed favorable by those who also derive pleasure from same.
#18 ….the cultural filters are clearly in place.
…and aren’t there already enough offensive things around us to add to it?
Try spreading a little positive energy!
I find forced marriage offensive, but I guess that doesn’t matter - you have to be a minority to be officially offended.
England over the past few years, has become so much of a PC nation, that one is afraid to walk, talk or show any emotion in public, since it could be miscrued as offending some race/culture or group. When a cab driver goes to jail for accidently calling a Welsh woman, “English”, one wonders. Their students are hopeless in learning with many not even knowing how to read/write. Many don’t even know Churchill or the Magna Carta. No wonder Brits are leaving and immigrants (illegal and legal) are coming in to replace them. Want to know our future? Look to England for a glimpse of how socialism and pc behavior molds a once free and proud society.
Does anyone have a link to the entire poster? I’m not clear on why it would be posted in the schools to begin with.
Are they trying to warn children about forced marriage? I think the kids are quite aware of the problem.
Are they trying to get the students to report if any of their underage friends have been forced into a marriage? I have a problem with placing that kind of burden on the shoulders of those who have the least control in the situation.
Any campaign like this should be targeted at adults who are in a position to protect the children. But maybe if I saw the whole poster, I could see what they’re trying to accomplish.
Those darned Amish.
Good point Vsatt.
Someone else sees the Amish conspiracy. Explains my theory on the enviromentalist movement to shut down power plants. I feel vindicated!
Why do we care anymore whether Muslims are offended. They’re offended by everything ‘truthful’. Screw ‘em. Let’s get out of ‘pc’ mode and back to reality. If they don’t like it go home.
Image of the full poster.
This thread make me wonder how common such a practice is in America (I use the word America rather than the United States to infuriate illegal Mexican’s who can read English because they think America means the North America Continent, yazir)
Well, not much on Google about this subject in America except Muslims make a distinction between forced marriages and arranged marriages. The penalty for refusing either is the same. Guess what the penalty. Nope, not female circumcision. Worse.
If you have not heard it before Here’s a little old time religion.
In 624 Abu Bakr (Muhammad’s daily companion and one of his first believers and successor of Muhammad) gave Muhammad his daughter Aisha when she was six years old, although the actual marriage was not consummated until she was nine. (This fact is uncontested by all Muslim scholars and chroniclers without exception.) At the time of their marriage Muhammad was 54 years old (the age of her grandfather) – a difference of 45 years in their ages.
So they’re afraid to offend Muslims with that poster. Indeed, it seems SO many people are afraid of offending them.
But, it seems they’re almost encouraged to offend Christians.
But, the only difference between an offended Muslim and an offended Christian is 10 sticks of dynamite.
At Harvard University, Muslim students just got the feckless Harvard administration to knuckle under to the Muslim students’ demand that men be kicked out of a university gymnasium for two hours every day. Where are all the brave professors at Harvard who talk about not having a religion determining secular matters? Where is Lawrence Tribe? This demand would never fly if students from any other religion made such a silly demand. Harvard’s administration said it was irrelevant if some male students said this two hour period was the only time in the day when they had no classes or no job or other school activties and needed to use the gym during those two hours. Harvard said it was irrelevant if those male students paid tuition and other fees that entitled them to use all of Harvard’s facilities. The Harvard administration actually said that the needs and even wishes of Muslim students trumped everything else. Havard has a new university slogan: “Islam uber alles”.
That’s for sure. I read an article on Townhall today that discusses how a Comedy Central show put the Catholic Church on trial against Oprah to see which is more EVIL. The Catholic Church “won.” I’m not actually shocked, I have come to expect trash from this network. However, I cannot imagine Comedy Central putting Islam on “trial.”
hmmm…normally I am against forced marriage, but if I were to be forced to marry, say, Kim Alexis, I wouldn’t have any problem with it.
LOL
That seems like a very appropriate message for young folks - they do [should] have a choice - of course there are still 7th century desert cults who believe otherwise - also some other non-western cultures also still insist on matchmaking.
Article 16 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights declares it a fundamental right to choose your spouse irrespective of race, religion or nationality. We can all thank Eleanor Roosevelt and her co-authors of the Declaration for this. I’ve noticed that some old-guard feminists have a problem with this Article, which may be why much of the invective aimed by lefties at Michelle has been sexually charged.
Mrs. Client #8?
This story is downright chilling because of the omission of critical facts. The Muslims have apparently been quietly - or openly - threatening British news media not to print critical stories of the “I” people, lest they get the “Bicycle Bomber” treatment.
The problem with
authoritarian liberalism- er, political correctness (didn’t want of “offend” anyone) is that its effect on the vitality of society is similar to slowly turning up the water temperature on a frog.I once read a book review in which the reviewer traced the decline and fall of the Hellenistic civilizations to “A collective failure of nerve” (or as a National Lampoon article put it more bluntly, “The ancient Greeks invented democracy, then forgot how to use it while running around dressed up as girls”).
History definitely seems to be repeating itself: In less than a century we’ve watched
GreatBritain go from the height of its power down to flinching and groveling before a malevolently disposed group of transplanted foreigners - that it dares not even name for fear of violence.Pathetic.
Welcome to Eurabia, Britons. Just like in the frog example, by the time you figure out that you’ve irrevocably traded away your freedom for a false sense of comfort and security, it’ll be too late. Only at least the frog can say that somebody else turned the temperature up to boiling. The Brits, like the rest of Europe, did it to themselves.
And lest we become too smug about Europe’s PC-driven fate, remember that they’re only a little further down the same path that we’re following; the silver lining is that when we, too, are finally overrun by a hostile, unassimilated and rapidly growing group of foreigners, at least the Mexicans are Christians.
It goes so much further! They let Jewish students avoid classes and tests during their holidays! And they don’t offer classes on Sundays to appease their Christian students! Where will it end!?
Rusty
That is not even close to the same thing, and you’re smart enough to know that. A student (Jewish on a holiday or just hung over) not coming to class doesn’t impact others’ lives. Closing the gym down so that a select few complainers get their way impacts many people.
The Moslems don’t need terrorists to defeat us. We’re doing a fine job of it ourselves. All they have to do is sit back and wait for our fall. In London, and other cities there, it won’t be long before you hear mosques calling the faithful to prayer all day. They want loudspeakers too. I lived in England once, and went to school, in Kent County. Times have changed so much, I wonder if it is wise to visit it now. I’d be quite uncomfortable.
I just finished reading the latest from Phyliss Chesler
on Islam. She started with the girls that were killed by
their father, here, in TX and expanded on the subject.
It is an excellent article. Here are two links that she
referenced.
http://www.nbc5i.com/newsarchive/15546408/detail.html
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontrent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/wfaa080308_wz_saidsisters.36b3726f.html
Wow. I kinda have to agree with Rusty on this one. Unless, however, the areas they mention make it obvious which cultures are being targeted.
Does anyone have a grasp on the those neighborhoods?
Weak.
BTW, are you sure that Harvard doesn’t offer any classes on Sundays?
White burkas for the brides?
Regulus and Graysonret
You are both so right, I grew up in Britain, left when I was twenty years old, I saw first-hand the slow effect of PC gone wild. In fact one of the named cities, Leicester, is my home town. What attracted the immigrants to Britain was the largesse of our wefare system and, because India used to be a British colony, all were allowed British passports. Britain was deluged with these immigrants, and coupled with the lot that Idi Amin had thrown out of Uganda, it wasn’t long before entire inner cities were predominantly East Asian. The problem was that these immigrants did not integrate and kept their customs from their old country. One case I remember well, was a Sikh challenging the law regarding wearing a helmet on his motorcycle, his claim was that because his religion forbade him to remove his turban, he should not be required to wear a helmet. He won and it’s been downhill from there. Britain has been angling to become Eurabia since the sixties, it looks like they’ve finally earned full membership.
BTW, Meatpie, I went to school with kids who had been promised in marriage to mates in India or Pakistan, none of them were happy about it.
RaisedRight:
Yah, that’s Lewis Black. He is an idiot. though I have to admit he IS funny when he is not talking about politics or religion (which isn’t often).
The article you linked also mentioned South Park:
I have to say, that is just not fair to “South Park.” While the above is true. “South Park” hands it out equally to all, and maybe even more so to Jihadists. “South Park” has many time skewered Jihadists.
In any case, forced marriage = bad. Not sure there is much else to say about that.
Harvard’s examination periods for the fall and spring semesters do not fall on any Jewish holidays so there is no policy of allowing Jewish students to take exams at special times. There would be no need to do so. The big Jewish holidays come during three days in September and October when the fall semester is only starting. So Harvard would not have to make any allowances. Since the Jewish sabbath begins on Friday night after sundown and extends through Saturday, Harvard would not have to make special arrangements with religious Jewish students in any case. And since the Christian sabbath is on Sunday when Harvard also does not give exams, Harvard would not have to make any special accomodations there. In any case, allowing a student to take an exam at a special time is often done to accomodate a family emergency,an illness or inclement weather and it .It does not harm anyone. But allowing only women, and preferably women of the Muslim faith, to have exclusive rights to use a university facility, is simply political correctness gone wild. And Harvard would never to this for any other religious faith besides Islam. It is not that Harvard singles out any particular religion for discrimination. It does not. Even someone as critical of Harvard’s liberalism as I am can’t accuse Harvard of that. What Harvard has done is to favor one religion, Islam, over all other religions. Harvard allows one religion to have special privileges.
Talk about offending people, y’all need to watch THIS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs2Wwv3Vq08
Watch this, but don’t be offended, be engraged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLK1Xpc7SMQ
Yeah, but she might.
Sorry Rusty, it does not end there. Many American corporations grant Saturday and Sunday as days off. Something you may not be aware of.
See! Christian creep is happening!
(I guess I should have used the “/sarc” thing with my original comment. I know that those things aren’t really comparable. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal either. Just trying to be sarcastic and funny. My failure is noted.)
Disparage them all you like, but in the end it doesn’t mean anything. They are beating us in all the ways that truly count for the future of humanity. The global caliphate “I”-moeba has a firm hold of the dead culture of Western Europe. The old great cathedrals have already been reduced to mere museum pieces. In another generation, the Caliphate of Europe will have them torn down for being “un-islamic”. And then they’ll turn their attention to us.
Here’s a thought.. a conspiracy if you like.. perhaps the US government are doing this (non-action) on purpose, in order to enrage and garner support for the Christians in this country.. once the outrage has reached a high enough and pervasive enough level, the government can act without impunity against other religions trying to railroad our nation and our way of life.. and wow if that’s true, the government must be getting unbelievably frustrated at just how much Americans are willing to bend over and take it, rather than stand up for ourselves!
..with impunity, not without heh..
one of my favorite quotes seems fitting…
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
trying to articulate how i feel and keeping this page family friendly is not an option right now….so happy friday!!
Why do you have to worry about offending Muslims? I thought they were eternally outraged and upset. I have never seen a smiling Muslim except after they celebrate Jews or Christian’s death that they did. Lets go ahead and offend them since they already are offended.
Interesting editorial out of England.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=534291&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow
I’ll see your “Losing My Religion” lyrics on the Obamessiah post and raise you one Tears for Fears opus (come to think of it, it could apply to the Spitzer mess, too, at times):
You better love loving you better behave
You better love loving you better behave
Woman in Chains
Woman in Chains
Calls her man the Great White Hope
Says she’s fine, she’ll always cope
Woman in Chains
Woman in Chains
Well I feel lying and waiting is a poor man’s deal
And I feel hopelessly weighed down by your eyes of steel
[your eyes of steel]
It’s a world gone crazy
Keeps Woman in Chains
Trades her soul as skin and bone
Sells the only thing she owns
Woman in Chains
[The Sun and the Moon]
Woman in Chains
Men of Stone Men of Stone
Well I feel deep in your heart there are wounds Time can’t heal
And I feel somebody somewhere is trying to breathe
Well you know what I mean
It’s a world gone crazy
Keeps Woman in Chains
It’s under my skin but out of my hands
I’ll tear it apart but I won’t understand
I will not accept the Greatness of Man
It’s a world gone crazy
Keeps Woman in Chains
[gone crazy keeps Woman in Chains]
So Free Her So Free Her
So Free Her So Free Her
So Free Her So Free Her