Jeremiah Wright’s Greatest Hits
Because Barack Obama asked for it, Jim Hoft delivers (nice album cover, Jim!):
Side One:
- God Damn America
- Hillary Aint No N*gger
- Bill Treated Me Like Monica
- God Damn America (Remix)
Side Two:
- Racism is How this Country was Founded
- Chickens Come Home to Roost
- We’re the Same as Al-Qaeda
- We bombed Nagasaki & Didn’t bat an eye
- God’s Sick of this Sh*t!
Watch Obama lavish praise on his crazy uncle.
Wrong-headed Wright’s church plays martyr. Obama’s playing the card, too. Natch. Race-mongers’ Rule Number One: When exposed, shout “VICTIM” at the top of lungs:
Otis Moss III, the current pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, used his pulpit to defend his congregation and its past minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., from a wave of controversy stemming from inflammatory statements made by Wright.
“We have listened and watched as the wonderful work of our church has been vilified this week,” he told about 3,000 congregants on Palm Sunday morning. “This week should be special for us because I guess we know a little something about crucifixion.”
The church also released a statement that began: “Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe.”
Bill Kristol distills the essence of Obama:
The more you learn about him, the more Obama seems to be a conventionally opportunistic politician, impressively smart and disciplined, who has put together a good political career and a terrific presidential campaign. But there’s not much audacity of hope there. There’s the calculation of ambition, and the construction of artifice, mixed in with a dash of deceit — all covered over with the great conceit that this campaign, and this candidate, are different.
Juan Williams agrees.
More on Obama’s reported attendance at one of Wright’s Hate America sermons from Ronald Kessler. If the report is accurate, Obama needs to be pressed on it.
If it isn’t accurate, Kessler and Newsmax need to correct and retract it.
Scott at Power Line has more:
The Los Angeles Times blog reports the Obama campaign’s denial that Obama attended the July 22 service; it states that Obama was in Miami that day. (Davis’s story was originally posted in August 2007; the Obama campaign apparently did not take notice of it until yesterday.) In fact, according to a Washington Post listing, Obama was scheduled to address the national council of La Raza’s annual conference on July 22, 2007. The time of Obama’s scheduled appearance is listed as “n/a.” Mickey Kaus has posted a La Raza press release listing Obama’s scheduled appearance at 1:30 p.m. There is also video of Obama’s appearance. As Kaus says, the ball is in Kessler’s court.
Allahpundit weighs in.
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More from Bob Owens:
I’ve contacted the Secret Service Public Affairs Office to see if they will be able to confirm or deny a protective detail guarding Obama at TUCC in Chicago on July 22, 2007 as they seem to be in the most credible position to resolve these claims, but I do not know if they are able to address such concerns, and even if they are about to confirm of deny Obama’s attendance, I’m not sure that playing a game of “gotcha” pinning down Obama as an attendee at one of Wright’s more explosive sermons is even of major relevance.
Certainly, confirming Obama’s attendance would be a huge blow to his credibility as he stated categorically that he never attended church on days where Wright delivered one of his more inflammatory sermons, but that almost seems beside the point.
Whether or not he was there for one of “those” sermons, Barack Obama attended Wright’s church for 20 years, and it is implausible that he was completely unaware of his rhetoric and radicalism during that entire time period.
Barack Obama is forcing us to chose between one of two narratives. Either he:
1. attended a church for two decades that featured a radical minister preaching a seemingly separatist and occasionally anti-American “Black Value System” (which curiously, was scrubbed from the church’s web site over the weekend), considered Wright a mentor, was married by him, has his children baptized by him, and added him in an official capacity to his Presidential campaign (though in a largely ceremonial role), without ever really knowing anything about him or his beliefs, or;
2. Barack was aware of Wright’s pronouncements and beliefs and agreed with him enough that he was a member of Wright’s congregation for 20 years, only to then see Obama threw Wright “under the bus” when those beliefs became a threat to Obama’s presidential campaign.Which is it?
The latter seems far more plausible than the former, with or without the media being able to pin down Obama as having attended Wright’s more bombastic recorded sermons.
Obama either displays a Gumpish cluelessness and a lack of self-awareness as a human being (not exactly sought-after traits in a President), or he agrees with the teaching of Wright to the extent that he became a member of his church and spent the last two decades as part of a congregation that was captured loudly applauding during extremist and conspiracy theory-laced sermons.
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I think Ronald Kessler has the goods to stop the Obamination’s train to glory.
It’s obviously NOT POSSIBLE for Obama to have attended this church for 20 years, with all the connections he had with the Reverend, to not have known exactly what Wright preached and what he stood for.
One of the most frightening defenses I’ve heard for this “church” is “all black churches are like this”. If this is true we can hang up our political correctness, dig up the “N” word if we want to, and forget about any kind of racial harmony beyond the superficial amount needed for everyday interactions with blacks, because there is never going to be racial equality or racial harmony as long as this crap is being preached, and apparently sucked right up, in black churches across the nation.
Unless the internet and talk radio keeps this alive to show who the real racist are in our country, this will be history by the middle of the week!
McCain has already apologizied for Barrack Hussein Obama!!!
hmm… I thought it was just hip-hop that needed to be cleaned up.
My, my… now it looks like black churches need to be cleaned up as well. Lot’s of racism and bad language with very little actual preaching going on.
I find it facinating that Michelle, as well as Fox News et al, will print and say “G-d Damn America” while refraining from printing or saying the word “nigger”.
all glitz. Obama knows that liberals are shiny object people - he need not a coherent plan. they need buzz words.
but this thing with Obama’s pastor can’t get any better. the main defense’s are laughable, if not insulting to the intelligence.
either:
Obama’s not lying, and he’s never heard these statements before (unlikely). if i’m to suspend belief here, then he’s accusing the pastor of having multiple personalities and admitting himself to be a sucker.
or
Obama has heard these statements (likely) and either believes them OR tolerated them so he could maintain this church’s political support.
neither of those scenarios are flattering to Obama. Kristol is right.
which gets me to my next question…where is the proof of his accomplishments? his Harvard degree? the worst president America’s had was an academic - i see that as a negative. where are the lasting effects of his ‘community organizing’? who has he helped? how many blacks has he moved out of poverty?
It isn’t the K-Tel version, but a good mix nonetheless Michelle!
I am just a dumb white middle aged male responsible for
mostall of the discrimination in the US of KKK A, according to Rev Adolph Wright.I have many black friends and have attended the Church of God in Christ in Memphis(Predominately black congregation). This is a huge church with a large following. I have never heard anything so vile and hateful like what Obama’s and Oprah’s preacher spewed out of his filthy, racist mouth.
Southern P,
People north of the Mason-Dixon have no idea how big this GD America story is. What they don’t realize is that GD is probably the most vile word(s) you can say. And to string GD together with America is just plain shocking and disgusting.
I’m not surpised by any of this. Being black and from Chicago almost automatically makes one militant.
Now we know who had the most influence over the Obaminatrix.
Where’s she been?
While wrights comments are deplorable, and despicable, it does force us to consider something even greater than BO’s run for the presidency and that is the 8,000 members on trinity’s roll.
For a church to rise from 100 to 8,000 members listening to this trash makes me more concern for race relations than any faux noose incident could have done. The fact that these people when hearing this trash did not with one voice, stop it and demand that wright leave speaks volumes about their character and witness of Jesus Christ in their lives. A person is judged by the company that they keep; if you have close friends that are openly racist, you associate with them and then you are ledgiteably (sp?) open to critism for your beliefs and actions.
The God that I serve does not preach hatred of people, but love and justice without resorting to slurs. The “love your neighbor” concept seems to be missing from trinity and have to wonder what bible translation they are reading from.
The fact that there are mosques/churches in this country preaching the gospel of racism that is merely accepted by sheep, given a pass from the MSM, and illustrates that the New Media (hint bloggers, conservative talk radio, and etc) were right after all.
Sadly I have heard black ministers in the Memphis area preach a simuliar gospel of hate, and are without shame when doing it. (ask Rep Steve Cohen about this)
And blacks wonder why the other ethnic groups are apprehensive about getting along with them. Until black ethnics start to fight for the equality for all (not just for their own)then-and only then will America become more racially tolerant. Ironically its the latinos, whites, asians, Native-Americans, fillopinos, conservative blacks and etc are the only ones doing this.
GSP
“Injustice anywhere, is injustice everywhere”-MLK
and trying to oppress the other half (whitey)
They left off:
“JESUS was a Po Black Man”
Should be on “Best of Part II”
Otis Moss III tried to defend Trinity this past Sunday:
Still impoverished community huh? Well this is the same community that has been controlled by democrats for over 50 years! It is the same community that Barack did his organizing of unions in to provide a better life for the people. This community isn’t the product of an area controlled by rich white Americans but by black racist democrats and the DNC who is keeping the people pinned down on the plantation. Let’s hear you deny that pastor! The current pastor damns himself and the “Rev” Wright with the above statement. Then on Palm Sunday they encourage the people to boycott WalMart! Oh brother. WalMart is patronized by many blacks all over America and their products, food, etc likely provide the best value to these people. Why boycott? Because Obama and Wright and this church worship at the altar of union labor. Detroit, a totally unionize bastion of freedom, like this community in Chicago is another fine example of a “still-impoverished community!” Why are these people and liberals so dumb?
Meanwhile this racist is in the senate making descisions on how my life will be run. When are we going to call for him to resign from this position.
When will the impeachment proceedings begin for Sen O-Racist?
Trinity Church sent a follow up announcement:
Behead Those Who Insult
IslamTrinityI went to TUCC’s website and oddly enough all of Dr. Wright’s books are “out of stock.” So, I went to Amazon and ordered 2 of them used. Wright is a doctrinaire “Liberation Theologian.” And we need to all understand this. It IS hate speech, but in their minds is being spewed against those people/governments that practice oppression of the poor and therefore deserve such hate speech and actions. This Dr. Wright is Hugo Chavez in black face. Different bodies, same Marxist mixed with false Christian doctrine philosophies. I know wikipedia is not always reliable, but read up on Liberation Theology there, scroll to bottom of main article and you will see that Wright is listed as a proponent of these beliefs in the U.S. It is scarier to me than anything else that Obama must then agree with that ideology. He needs to be called on this.
I find it hard to swallow that in 2 decades Obama had NO idea the beliefs and condemnations of this guy.
It looks like Obama is working the Bill Clinton mantra (deny,deny,deny) early he hasn’t even become President yet and he’s lying.
While watching/showing The Passion of the Christ in Sunday School, it was amazing to actually “see” The Sermon on the Mount, about loving your brother.
We have had an South African and an Indian Pastor come and preach at our Lutheran Church on Long Island. 98% of the congregation is part of the “Racist White, KKK of America” (Sarcasm off) group.
Some of the most amazing sermons that were preached to our congregation. In that time, not ONE of them spoke about division or racism.
It’s really quite disgusting about what he says about God and the Bible, that is NOT what it’s about.
It’s really quite upsetting at this time of the church year.
Barack Obama’s mother was white, and he spent his early childhood in the home of his white grandparents. How can he stay in a so called church where hated for the white race is regularly, repeatedly spoken? After hearing from Barack supporters that this is common in black churches, I was shocked.
I am a white female, 64 years old, and all my life believed we should judge people by their actions not by the color of their skin. I still feel that way, but the knowledge that this is “preached” in many black churches frightens me. Not for me, so much, as for my grandchildren. How do we ever overcome this kind of hatred?
Well, if we can’t blame all of Islam for all of the Jihads and Fatwas, (after all Islam is a Religion of Peace) how can we possibly blame Obama for hating white AmeriKKKa? He knew nothing about this. /sarc
Nobody in the MSM has thought to ask Obama the following questions: How is it possible that Jeremiah Wright only made these incendiaty antiAmerican, antiIsrael statements when Barack Obama was not in church? Is that credible Senator Obama? Is is believabe that Wright toned down his remarks and only talked about scripture when Barack and Michelle Obama were in church? Did Wright somehow see Barack and Michelle sitting in the pews and then decide to speak only about scripture? Please Barack, be serious. Sadly, it is as certain as the night following the day that the MSM has already decided that it did its job in giving this Wright story a one day window on the news shows and now they can go back to canonizing Barack Obama.
Interesting that Obama would not criticize Wright’s vicious antiIsrael statements. He only issued a written statement saying that he disagreed with Wright’s criticisms of “America and its allies”. In an effort to keep his street cred, Obama decided that he would not criticize Wright’s view on Israel. That might offend Farrakhan and that is something the Obamas will never do.
Depends on what your definition of the word “in” is.
This is just another example that blacks in America are more racist against whites than whites against blacks.
We see it all around us Sharpton/Jackson etc. This has become acceptable behavior because whites are still paying for something our founding fathers did centuries ago.
They blame whites for their poverty but yet, see nothing wrong with collecting entitlements then bashing us over the head because they still live in ghettos. They blame us for Katrina yet, not one got up off their duffs to help themselves. This is because they have been colleting entitlements and keep expecting the government to bail them out. They get government money and spend not on food or supplies they spend it on everything else. 2 yrs later they still have their hands out while living of the city of Houston.
Once again let’s blame everyone else for my misery.
Where’s Bill Cosby when we need him.
Whether Barack Obama was actually sitting in the pews that particular Sunday is pretty much irrelevant. He attended this church for 20 years. This was not the only controversial sermon Rev. Wright put forth from the pulpit.
If Sen. Obama is half as intelligent and astute as he portrays himself to be, he cannot feign ignorance of Jeremiah Wright and his hate-filled diatribes, even if he was speaking to La Raza on that particular Sunday of July 22nd.
But, you know, this does help one understand Michelle Obama’s mentality better, huh?
It is pretty hard to “love your neighbor as yourself” while at the same time preaching that your neighbors are your oppressors.
Let me get this straight, Barack Obama knew that there weren’t “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq back in 2002, but Barack didn’t know that his own personal spiritual adviser of 23 years was a seething racist?
That doesn’t sound right to me.
How any self-respecting christian person can sit in a pew IN CHURCH and listen to this hogwash - the vitriol, the cussing, and the hate - should go to show the Obama crowd and others, exactly where the messiah stands.
The closeness of their relationship speaks volumes to an intelligent voter.
Too bad most voters are not quite so discerning.
HHHHHMMMMM…Sounds like a commercial in the making here.
First off…if whitey is so bad, how did we let Barack get where he is today? And secondly, a simple mapquest from Baracks house to his church is an awfully loooooonnnnnnggggg drive. Couldn’t he find anything closer?
(sung at the opening of Hon. Jeremiah W.’s sermons)
“Obamerica the Beautiful”
O beautiful, for specious skies, white folks kept blacks as slaves…
It’s brokeback mountain’s travesty
White folks killed blacks with AIDS…
Obamerica, Obamerica,
God Sheds his waste on thee…
and scorns thy good for boys ‘n the hood
from sea to slimy sea…
It’s 3:00am and the phone rings in the White House. President Obama answers it to find out that Rev. Wright has created racial chaos leading to demonstrations and violence resulting in numerous deaths and serious bodily injury carrying across all race and gender. What’s his response?…
“I wasn’t in the congregation on that day and don’t know him to be an instigator of racial divisiveness. But, I did have enough insight to vote against the was in Iraq.”
Like everyone else I just can’t understand how this guy didn’t have a clue what this man was saying from his pulpit. Is he sleeping during the homily portion of the service? I don’t see how he could be it seems very loud. I wonder how old BO felt when his Rev. mentioned that he had a “white” mother?
Now I see Obama is saying that the date in question (July, 07) he was in FL.
My idiot liberal cousin sent us all an email blast last weekend that he didn’t want anyone else sending him anymore stuff about BO. The email was liberal condescension of the worst order. So I sent him a link to the story on Fox News. I don’t expect to be on the Christmas card list this year.
Re: gunslingerpatriot #11
Very well said.
Obama is blowing it. No one is going to believe he had no idea his pastor was preaching this message. And why is he playing the race card? This story has nothing to do with race.
Most all of these mega black churches record every sermon. If you liked the sermon you just Witnessed, you just go to the book/video store in the church on your way out and they will have the sermon ready for sale, DVD, and or VHS.
My prediction:
All past sermons have vanished and are no longer available for sale.
Of course if you are a member, you could give a secret code, hand shake, or password and buy any past or present sermon that your heart desires.
rooster they do have a book store on their website. But if people have already bought a copy and Barry’s in the audience, would they sell him out for a few thousand bucks????? This could get interesting.
Ring-a-ding-ding!
Mr. Obama says that he’s the victim of guilt by association.
I assert that there is no innocence by ignorance.
Obama’s saying he didn’t know about the vitriol his Pastor was spewing has drastically changed how I feel about him. I had thought he was just another idiot liberal and relatively benign but his smooth lies have convinced me that he is much more dangerous than I thought. Of course, if he’s elected president, his wife will temper his racism so not to worry.
Obama and his lovely wife are racists. Period. Full stop.
Anyone who would vote for this racist idiot is also a racist. Not necessarily because they hate Whites, but because a vote for Hussein says, in essence, that it is ok for blacks to be racist for whatever reason; that they are incapable and it is unfair to hold them to any reasonable standard of behavior.
It’s comical that the first “real” black candidate turns out to be a racist, a radical, and a typical corrupt politician. Comical except that the joke is on us…
gresheepdog,
I understand they have sales on a web site, all the sales originate from within the church walls. The operations that go into the production and instant sales of semons is incredible.
I think they will suspend sales now that America is waking up to the real racist that infest our country under the guise of affirmative action.
I learned very early on that this is a liberal’s world, and that conservatives just live in it.
I’ve seen a grotesque charlatan in a jogging suit with gold chains, and a ridiculously-coiffed hairdo, promote a blatantly false white on black rape case in 1987, then move on to become a “major” black-liberal player in the democrat party, only because a national, liberal media refused to hold him accountable for his actions every step of the way.
I’ve seen the second black Supreme Court nominee in US history reduced to a “sexual deviant” only because liberal democrats convinced a liberal college professor to come forward, without shred of credible evidence, and publicly state that he accused her of “putting a pubic hair on his can of coke” ten years earlier. All the while, a national, liberal media expanded their coverage.
I’ve seen a black woman come forward and claim that a white, democrat governor of Arkansas raped her, and that his white wife helped to cover up his criminal actions. All, the while, a national, liberal media either buried the allegation, or ignored her words all together.
Now, after a year’s worth of rumblings about a liberal Presidential candidate’s close political and spiritual ties to a seething racist in Chicago…a national, liberal media finally gets around to reporting the story only because the videotape, that always existed, is finally thrown onto their desk?
It really is a liberal’s world, we just live in it.
Newsmax is Americas version of The Depkafile.
Great. Trading one racist for another…
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-moss_bd17feb17,0,5693625,full.story
I think Wright’s church congregation should be made to attend diversity training to learn how to get along with people of other races and religions. It’s clear they have been seriously mislead.
If Jeremiah is just the “crazy ol’ uncle,” where does Louis Farrakhan fit in the scheme?
If memory serves, the “Lifetime Acheivement Award” was bestowed with the approval of the whole church…Not just the crazy ol’ uncle.
The mask has slipped a little more…And, what I see underneath sends a chill up my spine.
From the LA Times story:
Even a New Ager-type like Oprah could see that this guy was a nutcase - but Obama claims to still be clueless about him even after 20 years?
The more I hear Obama speak the more he sounds like one of those televangelist hustlers trying to get you to send in that check.
Who are we to hold a Democrat candidate to logic and reason? Especially on the national level. That is unprecedented in recent history. The Clinton presidency was the end of reason. Now it is just persona.
Chesapeaekegal has it right.
Let’s be on guard as those spinning this story present Obama’s church as one presenting a “social gospel” as though that explains it all. The use of the “social gospel” label say we just want to do good in the world, while in fact they are spreading hate in the world.
The use of the term “social gospel” is a way of masking the Maxist phylosophy that underpins all that they do. It is what Liberation Theology has done from the beginning, rely on Marxism as a way to address their grievences.
Some one needs to begin asking Obama if he is a Marxist or if he supports the Marxist approach to solving the problems of the poor. The opposition to Wallmart is telling.
It would be interesting to come up with a few sharp questions the MSM should be asking right now. This story needs to go beyond Obama’s connection with his church, to probing how deeply that connection affects his political views. Some insightful probing will take the mask down another notch.
Hannity broke this a year ago. Why all the hoopla now? Hillary couldn’t take on Obama up front so she has to attack him through associations.
I’m a Republican and conservative and hate every vile word Wright puked up, but I will not hold it against Barack no more that I would hold Mitt accountable for being Mormon. Nor would I want any of you calling me a child molester for being Catholic.
This is gutter politics. Pure and simple. Shame on us.
Obama’s Church is so full of hate, they should change the name to the Crips, or Bloods.
Thanks Groundhunter for the “dittos”…and as I said earlier the church website has already removed Wright’s books (all of which I am sure Obama read) from their website as being “out of stock.” But they can be bought on Amazon. If Obama truly believes this Liberation Theology then we are in deep trouble if he becomes President.
How inspiring, we have a Presidential candidate that is using a meeting with “La Raza” to excuse himself from any association with Jeremiah Wrights vitriolic exposure. One group of terrorists providing an alibi for another. How convenient
At the heart of what is going on is a probing of who Obama is. That hasn’t been done to any extent till now. If he indeed believes, as 20 years of attendence and close association would indicate, the things tought and preached in his church, and if those things are in clear opposition to basic principles that we hold in this country, like capitalism, then those things are fair game.
It is the character of the man that we are after and our character is often best revealed by the company we keep.
This just in: THe boy that sat 2 seats to OBama’s right in first grade didn’t eat all his Captain Crunch. Obama is to blame for World Hunger now.
I’m a Republican and conservative and hate every vile word Wright puked up, but I will not hold it against Barack no more that I would hold Mitt accountable for being Mormon.
Fair enough and great points. I just refuse to help Hillary in her campaign in any way. We had this story for over a year and nothing was brought up then. Now that Hillary is on the ropes, she needs all the help she can get.
I just wish we wait a minute, let the had concede defeat, then blast him with it.
I could be wrong though. Letting Hillary beat Obama and then whacking McInsane to win the White House might be are best strategy?
Had=Hag. Sorry
I would have to disagree with you on this one, John.
Jeremiah Wright has preached such sermons from his pulpit for a long time. Barack Obama has attended his church for over 20 years and considers Jeremiah Wright a close friend of his. Perhaps Sen. Obama missed one or two or, maybe a few, of the incendiary diatriabes by Mr. Wright. But, it is a slap in everyone’s face for him to try to feign ignorance to what this man believes and espouses on a regular basis. And, as someone pointed out earlier, it was the full church that bestowed the honor on Farrakhan. As a member of that congregation, Barack Obama would not be ignorant to it having been in the works.
It looks to speak volumes about Barack Obama, the Democrat contender and presidential hopeful.
And, there is the whole thing of consorting with La Raza.
Not sure how it is that the media vilified that church - they just played some of the pastor’s tapes, didn’t they?
It’s funny how that works, isn’t it, Katy? You broadcast actual archived footage of someone like Jeremiah Wright vilifying the citizens of the country in which he lives and, by some strange twist of logic, he is the one being vilified.
“John Ansell,”
I own oceanfront property in Kansas, that’s up for sale…Cheap.
Interested?
It stands to reason as well that people who go to church to indulge feelings of anger, hatred, fear, jealousy, superstition and revenge aren’t exactly “Christians” in the conventional sense: e.g., instead of “Render unto Caesar” show me any instance of Jesus railing against the Roman Empire in the same way that Wright routinely assails America.
At least Jesus would’ve had a leg to stand on.
So it stands to reason that if brotherly love, turning the other cheek and “love thy neighbor as thyself” aren’t what brings the flock back week after week, then they must be assembling for some other reason.
I suggest that reason is to share a political and not a religious communion.
An unquestioned article of faith among the Left is that the Republican Party takes its orders from “Right-wing Evangelical Christians” (a.k.a., “The American Taliban”). What goes unexamined is how the donkeys have co-opted the black churches, but in reverse: instead of taking orders from the “religious left,” the donkeys use the pulpit to cement their hold over the parishoners.
If a Republican candidate goes to a largely white church for a blatantly political purpose, it’s no secret that the event would be given major media play as confirming sinister plans to establish a Theocracy.
When donkey candidates go to black churches for expressly political purposes, it’s called “reaching out.”
Perhaps the crowning achievement of the donkey party since 1964 has been to bamboozle 90+ percent of black America to not only accept its status as an inferior and hopelessly dependent subculture, but through Quisling “religious leaders” like the “reverends” Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright to actually internalize and promote that inferiority, resentment and dependence.
For without black America’s wholesale and voluntary buying in to this permanent third-class status and its attendant sense of guilt-based entitlement from whitey, the donkey party would be out of business just as soon as the next election.
It’s a disgusting achievement, but a remarkable one nonetheless.
The more we learn about the Obamessiah, the more he freaks me out. I don’t want Empress Hillary I in the WH either, but this guy is scary. There’s no way I’d even sit through such hateful sermons, much less keep attending that church for 20 years. The fact he doesn’t realize how problematic this would be for the electorate shows that he truly is too wet-behind-the-ears for the presidency.
It is no surprise that Otis Moss and Trinity are playing the victim. And they are doing more than playing the race card here - they are playing the entire deck.
The response and reaction tells us 3 things:
1. That Trinity firmly believes in the words of Jeremiah Wright;
2. That Trinity is among those radical elements that truly believe that anything said or done by an “oppressed” people cannot be racist or bigoted due to their lack of power and control in the world in general;
3. That Obama, by maintaining his ties with Trinity, is a believer in their teachings, and that his denouncements are merely hollow denials designed to distance himself from specific statements as they come into the public view.
Most of America is not familiar with “liberation theology”, let alone “black liberation theology”. That theological practice is decidedly Marxist, pitting the “people” against their “oppressors”. It turns Christianity on its head, focusing on improving the worldly benefits of life rather than spiritual salvation. In other words, religion exists for the purpose of organizing a particular population in order to achieve a political gain, which gain is to right the perceived inequities society has wrought on the people.
But here’s the rub - you cannot follow liberation theology with a liberated populace. The absence of oppression, a victim mentality and an oppressor dooms liberation theology to failure.
So, even in countries that treat all people as equal, a perception of inequality and oppression must be created and fed in order for liberation theology to succeed. You must convince people that they remain oppressed, and you do so by focusing on events of the long distant past to fuel that fire. And you must maintain that perception by constantly preaching and convincing people that the smallest problems in their lives are the result of the actions of an oppressor.
Obama has cleverly woven the concepts of liberation theology into his speeches and platform. He has, rather cleverly, invited others to join the exclusive “oppressed club”. The US is still the enemy and the great oppressor, but Obama’s rhetoric allows others than people of color to include themselves in a group that previously denied admission to those of other races. This invitation to join plays well with what has been described as “white guilt”.
The biggest problem with black liberation theology in the US is that the vast majority of the population never has had a thing to do with the oppression of minorities in this country. To the contrary, most can trace their roots to ancestors who came to the United States to flee oppression, be it religious, class or economic. And for the last 40 years, most of the population other than those who consider themselves as African American, has directly or indirectly, been forced to pay a price for the sins of America’s past in the form of Affirmative Action, preferences and set asides.
In a nutshell, affirmative action was and is nothing more than forced discrimination in reverse. It belies equality by making one race “more equal” than another by penalizing those of different pigmentation.
So, when the cries of oppression continue to resound from the followers of black liberation theology, there is little general sympathy. In fact, such continued harping of ancient events tends to polarize non minority populations, especially in light of the unequal opportunities enjoyed by the complainants for over 40 years.
Having been to other truly oppressed countries around the world, my view is that there is no true oppression in the United States. People here have opportunities to achieve their dreams more so than in any other country in the world. But, if people realize that they are truly free, stop blaming their failures on government or other races and focus on their own role in their own failures, those that make their living off concepts like liberation theology will be out of work.
By continuing to convince people they are part of an oppressed class, the great proponents of black liberation theology continue to maintain a racist culture within the US. They cannot exist without it. And Barak Obama cannot exist without it.
Listening to Wrights ’sermons’ makes a lot of the puzzle pieces suddenly fit together. Consider the Global Poverty Act Obama is sponsoring, that’s right out of the playbook of Jeremiah Wright, who preaches economic parity all over the world and has a’non-negotiable commitment to Africa’, it looks like Obama is using his political career to achieve the commitments of his church.
John Ansell
I share your distaste for gutter politics, but I think this connection of Wright and Obama is an important issue to discuss.
Well if you only get your news from Newsmax and Fox, you would probably be inclined to believe he had “no idea.” I find it interesting that people want to focus on a handful of ugly, divisive sermons from his pastor and completely disregard Obama’s own message of racial unity he has been preaching from day one.
If you would like to gain a fuller perspective, do a little research. Here is a speech Obama just gave in Indiana this past weekend.
Obama is not afraid of you. He is not afraid of your accusations of bigotry and racism. By directing the media’s focus on Wright’s “greatest hits”, all you have accomplished is given Obama a platform to reiterate his stance on racial unity, and reject the divisive words he disagrees with. Go ahead and challenge him. He’s ready.
Most recently, you heard some statements from my former pastor that were incendiary and that I completely reject, although I knew him and know him as somebody in my church who talked to me about Jesus and family and friendships, but clearly had — but if all I knew was those statements that I saw on television, I would be shocked. And it just reminds me that we’ve got a tragic history when it comes to race in this country. We’ve got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding. But what I continue to believe in is that this country wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions. That this country wants something different.
Well, at least some of us do.
Boston 2004
Hartford 2007
Iowa 2008
Jim M
Outstanding post
John Ansell,
Agree in part disagree in part.
When a candidate makes part of who they are part of why they are running - fair game. BO wants to tout being a “Christian” because of the Islam reference. Well, you had better stand up to the very definition of what a Christian is. His church is vile spewing hatred and he attended for 20 years. I have left three churches in 12 years. When a church stray’s from the Gospels and into politics and “world religion” it is time to leave. BO should have left the very first time black vs. white came from the “pastors” mouth. Now, we need to hold his feet to the fire - period.
I will bet a dollar to a nickel that their church believes that abortion was conceived to eliminate the black populace. I have looked on their site for anything about abortion and cannot find anything. I seem to recall Wright saying something to that end. If I am right then the question would be:
How would BO reconcile his stance on abortion?
LOL. I’m not here to defend Barrack nor his church. I just wonder where everybody was a year ago when this broke!!!! Go ahead and carry out Clinton’s dirty work. FIne by me. I just want her to lose and if this knocks Obama out of the running and Hillary beats McCain, you can thank yourself for not holding back until Obama gets the nomination.
Hope I made my self clear. Timing is everything in Politics. Wait until he gets the nomination then unload. Please, don’t give Hillary any chance at getting back into this. She is almost gone, don’t mess it up now.
I agree with BOB, “One of the most frightening defenses I’ve heard for this “church” is “all black churches are like this”. If this is true we can hang up our political correctness, dig up the “N” word if we want to, and forget about any kind of racial harmony beyond the superficial amount needed for everyday interactions with blacks, because there is never going to be racial equality or racial harmony as long as this crap is being preached, and apparently sucked right up, in black churches across the nation.”
A few days ago, someone shared this video with me. All black churches may not be like TUCC, but there are indeed others that are…..this one is in Harlem, and hasn’t much nice to say about Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
OMG i was just going to post that Youtube video!!!!
8 million Haitians live in abject poverty. What is the TUCC church doing for this island country formed by African slaves in 1804? I bet NOTHING!
It has been my experience that the majority of missionaries who go to Haiti and give their lives in service to better the lives of the Haitian people are - white. So, why should I care about the Haitian people? I live by CHRIST’S example and love my brothers and sisters not my WHITE brothers and sisters.
Again, BO should have left the “church” the first time he heard black vs. white.
Simple math:
20 years x 52 Sundays = 1040 sermons
9 “greatest hits” / 1040 sermons = 0.87%
What about the other 99.13% ?
LMFAO! His alibi for not being present for hate is that he was in another part of the country speaking to a DIFFERENT hate group. Genius!
#15, fortunately he’s almost never there and hardly ever votes…
It bears noting that “Chickens Come Home To Roost” is a golden oldie. That is exactly what a black hate-preacher of an earlier generation — Malcolm X — said after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Yeah, how about them Huggy?
Why are all of the Rev. Wright’s books and such no longer available on the church’s website?
If you think these 9 were aberrations, you really have sipped the Obama kool-aid.
Hmm. Can’t hold Obama responsible for a “few” sermons by the Rev. Wright? Those “few” sermons weren’t such a big deal?
Then why did Obama and the Rev. Wright meet in April 2007 and discuss the fact that if Obama made it through the primary process that it would become “necessary for you (Obama) to PUBLICLY distance yourself from me (Wright)”.
Obama has some questions to answer.
Too bad nobody in the MSM is going to be asking them.
And too bad that folks like you, Huggy, are so blindly devoted to the empty suit that is Obama that even if he came out and admitted that he believes in this divisive racism masquerading as Christianity, you would still get out and beat the drums for him as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
#75
“Simple math:
20 years x 52 Sundays = 1040 sermons
9 “greatest hits” / 1040 sermons = 0.87%
What about the other 99.13% ?”
Boy, that is rich! It is really great when you can quantify an acceptable level of hate speech. Less than 1% of the time is okay. When is it not okay, 10% or 50% or 75%? And from your post #68, you obviously are a proponent of trusting what a politician says as opposed to what he does. Right, they are all so truthful when they parse their words to explain their actions. Maybe this has created so much controversy because for two years all we got were his words and this is finally a glimpse of his actions.
How long has Kristol been writing for the NYT? And in that brief time how many times now has he made some stupid error like this that could be remedied by the most basic of fact checking (the most recent being the most egregious)? At least three that I can recall.
Whatever your opinion of Obama or Wright I think one thing is crystal clear: Kristol is a hack.
Believe it or not, no I wouldn’t! I find Wright’s “greatest hits” as appaling as you do. I’m just not losing sight of the forest in favor of a handful of trees. Fortunately it looks like most Americans aren’t falling for this pathetic diversion either.
I’m not offering any excuses for Wright’s hateful words. Thing is, neither is Obama. The fact that you choose to focus on a small fraction of his sermons, and hold Obama fully accountable for them, while completely disregarding words from Obama’s own mouth is very telling. And tiresome.
I can’t say I’m surprised. I mean really, if you believe freakin’ Oprah is a racial separatist because she attends this church, you guys are really grasping at straws.
Oh, and BTW - Bill Kristol just retracted his assertion that Obama was in church on July 22.
I think Michelle’s other thread on Jeremiah Wright and Trinity may shed some light for those on this thread that haven’t seen it yet.
The fact that the people want to help Clinton by spreading her dirt for her bothers me.
Like I posted earlier, this stuff was known for over a year now. Why no outrage back then? Because back then OBama had a snowballs chance in hell getting the nomination. Now that Obama is close to knocking out the hag, this becomes big news.
Breaking news: Barack’s dog just farted, adding to Global warming. Campaign is in free fall.
BTW, if anyone needs proof of media bias and MSM worship of Barack and Michelle Obmaa, Nora O’Donnell provided 100% proof at NBC this morning. Nora O’Donnell railed that Rush Limbaugh was “going nuts” over a nonstory and Nora suggested that Limbaugh was driving a story that to O’Donnell was irrelevant.
I think Hannibal said it best:
And, oh by the way:
I thought even The Great Oprah (and yeah, I think even The Great Oprah has more than a few racist bones in her body) gave up her membership in this church some years ago - because of what the Rev. Wright was spewing from the pulpit.
Your logic seems misguided to me. You want Hillary gone so bad that you’re willing to set all of this aside to maybe, just maybe, bring it up later? If you think that Hillary is going to do anything less than take the nomination to the convention, you are sadly mistaken. And I would add this: As much as the thought of a Hillary Presidency scares the living daylights out of me, it’s nothing compared to what an Obama Presidency would be like. Hillary is a known quantity. We lived through 8 years of it already when Bill was President. While it wouldn’t be pretty, we could survive 8 more years of a Clinton Presidency.
On the other hand, are you prepared for a Presidential term where every criticism of the POTUS will be termed to be racist? That thought scares me. With the way this country already reacts to charges of racism, can you imagine a blank check being handed to this man to pass whatever legislation he wants? At least with the Clintons, we would have a chance to fight off their socialist agenda, just as we had to when Bill was POTUS. If it’s Obama, all I can say is hang onto your wallet, and get ready to really see the Constitution shredded. Many of your freedoms, both personal and economic, are liable to go straight out the window, all in the name of “fairness and equality”.
No, John. The possibility of an Obama Presidency is far, far worse than another Clinton Administration.
#82 “I mean really, if you believe freakin’ Oprah is a racial separatist because she attends this church, you guys are really grasping at straws.”
Come on sport, do you make this stuff up to suit yourself. The comment was that Ms. Winfrey “at one time attended” this church. The fact that she no longer attends would lead me to believe that “she is not” a racial separatist. Obviously, she did not have to hear this crap ad infinitum before she moved on to a church more in tune with her beliefs. In doing that, her actions speak louder than any words she might use and shows some character and she doesn’t have to waste time on talk shows making feeble excuses.
Hmm. Just took a look at that other thread.
Anybody want to bet AGAINST charges of racism being thrown about (either subtly or not) in that Obama speech?
I’m betting not so subtly, especially since Obama wants to talk about the “issue of race in the campaign”.
Just a little preview of what’s to come if this man wins the Oval Office.
Maybe bring this up later? This is bringing it up later. A full year later after Hannity broke it. To tell you frankly, I don’t like any of the three running. It’s a matter of which I dislike the least. Obama will most likely get my 1/2 vote because I’ll be writing in somebody. We will see if Hillary fights all the way. But all indications are is that she will drop soon.
Maybe Obama never actually attended the church, he just said he did, and we all know that it is not logical to assume that Wright said anything inflammatory, racist, bigoted or whatever, except those we see on tape…Yeah, right.
I was just thinking about what you said earlier:
Sounds to me like you were advocating “bringing it up later”.
Really? What indications are those? Sure are different indications than what I’m seeing. Hillary is the one pressing for “re-do’s” or counting the votes from the earlier Michigan and Florida voting. Obama has been hedging on that. Why? It benefits Hillary. Hillary has been schmoozing the superdelagates. And there are plenty of news stories quoting superdelagates saying all sorts of things - we support the people’s will (Obama), we support Hillary because we think she’s “electable”, even we’re not sure which we’ll support.
If you think Hillary is going to pack it in before the convention, I think you’re sadly mistaken. I might be wrong, but I don’t think so.
And besides, even as queasy as McCain leaves me, I’d still rather see him in there than either Punch or Judy. And the latest Zogby polling shows him beating either one of those two.
Wasn’t Romney the candidate of choice around these parts? It’s no secret the Mormon church has a history of preaching racial separatism. If there were cries of racism from these quarters when he was still in the race, I didn’t hear them.
Then you weren’t reading very carefully, were you huggy? There were plenty of Romney haters posting on this board, leveling all sorts of charges against him and the LDS Church.
And there was far from a “candidate of choice” on this board. Or among conservatives in general. That’s why we were vulnerable to all of the Dims crossing over to vote in the early Republican primaries and sticking us with McCain.
And now the Dims have the audacity to complain about Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary? What’s good for the goose, etc.
There must be liberals posting here. Whenever a liberal comrade is in trouble, they immediately start talking about somebody else (Romney). Regardless of what some may think of Mormons, they don’t preach the kind of vile hatred Obama’s pastor does and they certainly aren’t America haters. There’s no moral (immoral) equivalence to any other candidate. Not to mention that the guy is certifiably insane if he thinks that the U.S. invented HIV to kill blacks. What, does he think that only blacks are gay?
Obama has called this guy his spiritual leader and mentor. He either needs to take a bleach bath, or hang it up.
The indications are the elections and electoral vote count. None the less, we are on the same side, we don’t want a Democrat in the White House. McCain is a Democrat, but he’s an acceptable Democrat over the other 2 running.
#92 huggybear said:
He was my first choice. I’m Catholic, but I wasn’t aware of Mormonism’s policy on “racial separation.” Whenever I find articles on Mormonism, I read about mandatory service towards others, and how much good Mormons do and donate to third world countries in Africa, South America and the Caribbean.
I wonder how much service and money Obama’s church has donated to poor, European countries over the years?
If Romney had a personal spiritual advisor akin to Jeremiah Wright, I imagine you would have heard those “cries of racism” that you are searching for.
Please notice that the outrage in this particular case is over Obama’s deep ties, faith and support for an overt racist like Jeremiah Wright, and not the United Church of Christ as a whole.
In order to formulate a stronger argument, you need to construct a tighter analogy.
Onward and upward my friend!
To be clear, I’m speaking to the larger audience here, not the “liberal trolls,” amongst whom I’m no doubt cast. If anyone here who considers themselves conservative and called Romney out for the prejudices of his church, I welcome their input.
I’m just pointing out an indisputable fact - the Church of LDS had a long-standing policy of racial segregation, a policy that existed during Romney’s lifetime. To the Mormon church’s credit, they have moved past it. Good for them.
Here is my point - you are willing to look past that ugliness and see the good things the Church of LDS has done, as do I. Why not grant Wright’s church the same amount of understanding?
I’m not condoning Wright’s remarks. I’m simply saying if you focus only on the negatives, while disregarding any positives - contrary to your treatment of Romney and the Mormon church - you’re not playing fair.
JimM #66
Great post and well reasoned.
OMB-
I agree with you-one racist sermon from a pastor and I am outta here.
Sadly; this happened last October when a pastors adopted daughter made an asian slur and his wife failed to say anything about, even after I said something. If the kids are speaking racial slurs in public and the parent isn’t saying something to stop it-this gives me cause for concern. Ironically I did say something that was brushed off by the mom and daughter.
So if a pastor can make .87% of their sermons with a racist intent; someone please explain why Don Imus was fired after only one racial slur to the womens Rutgers basketball team and he has had a radio show 5 days/week for at least 15 years.
20 shows a month x 12 months x 15 years=3,600 shows and only one had a racial slur and that comes out to 0.000277(seven repeats) Values don’t include his Imus return to the air with WABC in NY
Just my $.02 worth!
GSP
Huggbear says
“I’m not condoning Wright’s remarks. I’m simply saying if you focus only on the negatives, while disregarding any positives - contrary to your treatment of Romney and the Mormon church - you’re not playing fair.”
and gunslinger shoots him down with
“please explain why Don Imus was fired after only one racial slur to the womens Rutgers basketball team and he has had a radio show 5 days/week for at least 15 years.”
awesome gunslinger!!
DoWright needs to come to NC.
There are many gun toting conservatives who’d take his tongue out.