More anti-war nutballs to add to the Unhinged photo gallery: Thugs attack in Chicago and Philly
Video of the “Catholic Schoolgirls Against the War” assault on the Holy Name church yesterday:
This is absolutely disgusting, and perfectly in keeping with criminal anti-war thuggery. Remember that past protesters–also Catholic– have actually used their own real blood to vandalize recruitment centers. Guess these idiots in Chicago didn’t have the stomach for that, so they used “stage blood:”
Six people were arrested at Holy Name parish’s auditorium Sunday after disrupting an Easter mass to protest the Iraq war.
The group—whose female and male members identified themselves as Catholic Schoolgirls Against the War—stood up at the beginning of Cardinal Francis George’s homily and shouted their opposition to the conflict, which marked its fifth anniversary last week. As security guards and ushers tried to remove them from the service, the demonstrators squirted fake blood on themselves and parishioners dressed in their Easter finery.
The red substance, which one protester later described as “stage blood,” initially drew gasps and a few terrified yelps from the 600 worshipers at the mass. The shock, however, quickly transformed into anger as people booed the six while they were escorted from the parish auditorium.
The perpetrators:
The protesters were all charged with felony criminal damage to property and two counts of simple battery for squirting the blood around the auditorium and onto worshipers’ clothes, authorities said. Chicago police identified the six arrested as Donte D. Smith, 18; Ephran Ramirez Jr., 22; Ryane Ziemba, 25; Mercedes Phinaih, 18; Regan Maher, 25; and Angela Haban, 20.
Let’s watch carefully to see how the prosecution proceeds. If past history is any indication, they’ll get off with slaps on the wrist.
More at Gateway Pundit (who has the mugshots) and from Ed at Hot Air.
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Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, a lovely conservative blogger I met at the Gathering of Eagles, Skye at Midnight Blue, reports that she was slapped by the peace-mongers from Chester County Peace Movement (CCPM) at an anti-war protest. Melanie Morgan has more. Photos of the arrest here.
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You can’t be serious. I saw a video on Youtube of an abortion protest that turned into a dramatization of the murder of Dr. John Britton. His murder was celebrated by a group of 25 or so.
Also of note: more doctors have been killed than, say, military recruiters.
Which does not excuse the church protesters or anyone who lays a hand on another person.
But to say that abortion protests don’t often go beyond the pale is ridiculous.
It’s completely disrespectful what these thugs did. You can’t even go to Easter church service without a freaking anti-war protest. The Iraq War has nothing to do with celebrating Easter. The protest was yet another sacrilegious attempt to interrupt a holiday that nutroots like these people would like to use to prop up their “protests.”
I’m sorry but this is about Jesus’ resurrection not your sorry attempt at exercising your right to civil disobedience.
You are trolling and you know it. You are being downright disrespectful and disingenuous to rant about abortion instead of addressing the ACTUAL issue. You’re being called on your behavior.
Here’s a thought… stop changing the subject and start engaging the one in this thread.
As I said above – proof, please. Please show me where – on a daily basis – pro-lifers are attacking people in abortion clinics and spraying them with fake blood, etc.
In a way, you prove our point beautifully.
You argue that this doesn’t (or shouldn’t) reflect badly on the left, and that the “mainstream” left doesn’t support this while simultaneously arguing that *everyone* on the right is bad because of what we supposedly “do” at abortion clinics.
Get a clue, lgm.
The left has lost it. They are immature, irresponsible, violent, and bigoted.
Also of note: the murders are in jail, where they belong.
I have yet to see the same for war protesters who break laws.
Hmmmm? What actions are you planning in my name?
#95 On March 24th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, emjem24 said:
“You are trolling and you know it. You are being downright disrespectful and disingenuous to rant about abortion instead of addressing the ACTUAL issue. You’re being called on your behavior.
Here’s a thought… stop changing the subject and start engaging the one in this thread.”
emjem24, you can’t be serious.
You expect that this thread’s topic will be engaged, and that the subject will not be changed?
Unless we are pleasantly surprised, and unless flying pigs zoom by, I’m afraid you might end up hearing nothing but the crickets’ chirping.
emjem24, don’t waste your time, effort, and life.
englishqueen01,
I believe you are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting lgm’s quote when you wrote:
lgm was not arguing that everyone on the right is bad because of anti-abortion violence…but rather that everyone on the right is not bad, just because a few loose screws have terrorized abortion clinics.
The point is that there is inappropriate and violent behavior by extremist on both left and right, that neither side’s mainstream condone.
Let’s also remember that when a Catholic bishop condemned the gay-sex-in-the-street fair (aka Folsom Street Fair in SF), but did NOTHING to disrupt it he was retaliated against by two members of the Sister of Perpetual Indulgence going to a Catholic mass and receiving communion (which was recorded) from the bishop. The mayor of SF wouldn’t even condemn them for it.
#100 On March 24th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, KaosKlerik said:
“Let’s also remember that when a Catholic bishop condemned the gay-sex-in-the-street fair (aka Folsom Street Fair in SF), but did NOTHING to disrupt it he was retaliated against by two members of the Sister of Perpetual Indulgence going to a Catholic mass and receiving communion (which was recorded) from the bishop. The mayor of SF wouldn’t even condemn them for it.”
Again:
“The mayor of SF wouldn’t even condemn them for it.”
And we should be surprised he did not condemn it…why?
Well nothing as grand as you the KaosKlerik might devise.
The mayor was probably too busy enjoying the fetishtivities to condemn them. I mean, isn’t that the lefts favorite line lately, everybody does it?
Felony charges will stick on their records. Hopefully, they will become convictions. Maybe, when they are a bit older, they’ll understand that the felony convictions will stay with them for all time. Explain that, to a prospective job or home. But, I imagine, at worse, they’ll get community service or something else tame. I also imagine that they will feel really “cool” about it, and do some more damage to others and their lives. In that case, the punishment will last a very long time, in having such a record.
Bond has been set . $25,000 each for five of them , and 35,000 for the other one . Doesn’t say if they bonded out though.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/858435,holy032408.article
There is really no limit to the small probing missions we could devise now that we have them in a disorganized retreat er general panic. Operation catfight would be a good one to try out right about now or Operation judasgoat to name another. But I’m sure you all get the idea, be creative, creative conservatism is the key.
emjem24 said (#95):
I don’t know what trolling means. I participate in the thread as you do.
I try to follow the advice in Leviticus by responding in kind (eye for an eye) but to a lesser degree (which was the actual point in Leviticus). Balance the insults I’ve given (there have been some) against the insults I’ve received.
That’s what I was doing, as rusty understood. The larger point of the thread is that liberals are bad because some liberal nuts (six of them) did something disgusting. As TheOtherSide understood, I was arguing against this larger point. There also are conservative nuts who do disgusting things to protest abortion.
LGM, your obsession with abortion clinics borders on the insane. Why don’t you spend your days down there and tape all these horrid abuses that go on on the outside that you claim daily in your rants. You can post your video essay for us all to see. You have nothing else to do with your time so please show us how the terrible people on the right destroy death factories every single day in your view. Of course this doesn’t happen everyday but you believe in your twisted mind that the recruiters, people going to church on Easter Sunday probably deserve the demonstration of “protest”. Troll.
Apples and oranges. Most war protesters don’t do anything worthy of being jailed. Including the six who disrupted a Mass. Even slapping someone isn’t worthy of jail time.
These young punks are accused of (and video recordings show) committing a felony. So, their premeditated act, in my opinion, should earn them each several years in the slammer if for no other reason to teach them to write editorials to express themselves instead of disrupting Easter Mass. Throw the book at them, this nonsense from the self-centered left must stop. NOW.
This filth has nothing to do with me other than the low level handle I chose for an instance like this that I always knew was there just waiting to be the pig of the Year.
I chose a winner!
Rusty,
Slapping someone is assault. Mothers have been arrested for doing less to discipline their kids in public.
If one of these peons slapped me, I’d file charges out the posterior. They’d go to jail, even if only for a short time.
Besides, the obstruction the nuts in Berkely have been guilty of is illegal. You cannot forcefully block a private citizen’s path no matter what you think of what they are doing.
Yes, Rusty, many of these wack-jobs have earned jail time.
lgm,
You should learn from Rusty’s debating skills. He’s good. I have to publicly agree with everything he has stated in this thread. (I think this is the 2nd time I’ve done so.)
You, on the other hand, aren’t as bright. You “miss the point” often and even state factual errors (which is the kiss of death to your credibility).
But those who have – like the thugs who trashed the recruiting station here in Milwaukee – haven’t received punishment. And slapping someone is assault, Rusty. You could go to jail for it.
I get your point (even if it wasn’t clear in my other comment), however – a direct question to you:
Do you, as a liberal, condemn these actions inasmuch as they not only were inappropriate but a direct harassment to innocent Catholics participating in an activity (Mass) wholly unrelated to war and on the holiest day of the Church’s calendar (Easter)?
Because I – as a conservative – make this explicitly clear: I condemn it. Just as I condemn violence at abortion clinics. Just as many, many conservatives have.
But you’re missing the larger point. This is a religious service. In a Church. On EASTER SUNDAY.
Don’t you think Catholics have a right to peacefully worship?
And wouldn’t you be more than a little frightened if someone came in and started splattering blood all over the place? Granted, this turned out to be fake blood – but what if it had been real? Diseased? Infected with HIV?
What would you say if this was a mosque? If a group of feminists started trashing the place on a Friday during services?
Would you have the same apathetic attitude toward that?
And why do my feelings count less than someone in a politically correct protected class?
Because – as a practicing Catholic – I find this insulting, hurtful and rude. Or do my feelings not count because I’m just some silly Papist?
corkie,
lgm is Leviticus, the KKKoran’s well known, Lascivious, a well known dweller in the bowels of modern depravity, such as Liberalism, give or take an Obama here or there.
lGM can you tell me what abortion clinic was bombed today? Can you tell me which ones were bombed yestrerday? LGM, can you tell me what woman was denied getting her abortion done? By the way what do they do with the fetuses after they kill them? Do they burn them or what? Yes I know Abortion is legal and I won’t be surprized when post birth abortion will be legal. Also did you know that slavery was legal? I would love to hear some answers.
I’m looking for BrianNY’s (#89) response to Rusty’s post in #93.
I’m also interested in emjem24’s response to Rusty’s comments as well.
Just observing.
Rusty, I would venture a guess that if I came up and slapped you across your face you would want me in jail. But of course if they’re anti-war zealots that you love, it’s okay, right?
How is
“Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one.”
morally different from
“Don’t like slavery? Don’t own one.“
KaosKlerik asked (#118):
The difference is that the fetus is not (yet) a person. But this really is off topic.
You think abortion is murder. Some (not me) think what the US is doing in Iraq is murder. That explains why the radical anti abortion people and the radical anti war people use similar tactics.
…and slaves were considered sub-human by those who favored slavery. As long as you de-humanize that which you wish to exploit or destroy you can justify anything against the innocent.
It’s not off-topic because I had a point. The Islamofascist terrorists justify horrific acts against innocent people and there is little complaint from most Muslims (yes, some are intimidated). The difference is that the vast majority of Christians are opposed to all three. You appear to me to only oppose one, maybe one & a half (you despise the last, but don’t want us to oppose it).
#120 KaosKlerik:
Don’t waste your time.
As soon as you see the statement that the fetus is not (yet) a person, any further attenmpt at discussion will be as fruitful as a conversation with a chair.
Troll said:
You say that you don’t feel this way but you always bring it up. Me thinks you protesth too much.
We know you despise the military so give it up.
#116 Dark Knight said:
#93 Rusty said:
I’m not disputing that pro-life activists have murdered 7 abortion providers in the last 15 years, I was disputing lgm’s equivalence claim that what happened in the Chicago church happens “every day” at abortion clinics.
#75 lgm said: