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1. #1
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, TMoney said:

   US defense contractors have been building fences - virtual and otherwise - in Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries for years. We buy the oil, they use the money to secure thier borders.

   Our border will not be secured until a major hit on our people bring a national uproar of extreme proportions. Perhaps a highly contested presidential election? Hell, it worked in Spain, didn’t it?

2. #2
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, ACHefty said:

   Jerks!

   Anyone considering a run for Congress or the Senate — other than me — to kick these lazy [fill-in-the-blanks] out once and for all?

3. #3
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, letget said:

   Signed and sent. Probably won’t do a hill of beans, but I have to try. I have to put my 2cents in every time I can to get this illegal mess solved.
   Thanks, Michelle.
   L

4. #4
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, John Ansell said:

   McCain is in Southern California today and I’m telling you the people calling in to the radio shows are not happy about having McAmnesty as our choice.

5. #5
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, James Felix said:

   I suppose expecting the world’s only superpower to replicate the work of Fifth Century Chinese peasants is just way too much to ask.

6. #6
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

   This is so freakin’ unbelievable. I signed the petition. I sent it along to family friends for their signatures as well. This madness has to stop!!

7. #7
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, bironetworks said:

   Wanna see how fast a fence gets built?

   Strip all politicians, President, VP, Senators… of their personal security details and security budgets.

   They don’t respect our security, we don’t allow them theirs.

8. #8
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, ajmontana said:

   Not securing our borders is the most lame, insane disregard for our nations security ever.

9. #9
   On March 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, James Felix said:

   They don’t respect our security, we don’t allow them theirs.

   You’ve actually hit on the reason that the government does 90% of what it does. The people making the decisions never have to live with the consequences of them.

10. #10
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, John Ansell said:

    Well I just made a boat load of money and I didn’t have to switch to Geico. I refuse sending in any donations to the Republican Party and wham, major savings. Try it, it’s fun.

11. #11
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, ajmontana said:

    and stop the anchor baby nonsense.

12. #12
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    As noted the other day, the practicality of erecting 5,525 miles of fence to contain the Canadian border and 1,989 miles of fence to separate the US from Mexico still leaves over 95,000 miles of coast line to protect. We should be treating border enforcement like cattle ranching. Focus on the highest traffic areas and round em up.

13. #13
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    buh-bye to the fence already?? geesh, and I never even got to say hello.

14. #14
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    We should be treating border enforcement like cattle ranching.

    Cattleguards keep the cows from crossing open areas. I see that removing all incentives for coming here as an effective cattleguard.

15. #15
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, granite said:

    #9 On March 26th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, James Felix said:

    “You’ve actually hit on the reason that the government does 90% of what it does. The people making the decisions never have to live with the consequences of them.”

    Yep, I’ve been saying exactly that for many years.
    As a doc, I have to deal with regulatory bodies and hospital administrations and bureacracies.
    And that’s exactly what the deal, while perhaps not in all, is in so many instances:

    “The people making the decisions never have to live with the consequences of them.”

    The sort-of converse to that statement I ran across a dozen or more years ago in Newsweek (a little while before we canceled our subscription) in a cover story on job stress.

    At, or very near, the end of the article, it stated that the definition of job stress is having the responsibility for a job, but no control over it.

    Ain’t it the truth.

    On a lighter note, the cover of that issue of Newsweek, titled “Job Stress”, had Mr. Dithers twirling poor Dagwood Bumstead over his head!
    Classic!

16. #16
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, granite said:

    “…the fence-gutting provision that was put into the omnibus spending bill just before Christmas also causes the Department of Homeland Security’s authority on constructing new border fencing to expire at the end of this year. In essence, the sun sets on the border fence on December 31 of this year! In fact, our contact tells us the bill language could be interpreted as a prohibition against any fence construction after December 31 of this year.”

    “Next President under no legal authority to build any border fencing

    Consider what this means for the 2008 elections. The next President — whether it be Obama or Clinton or McCain — will have no clear legal authority to build any of the border fence at all. We will have a pro-amnesty president who not only doesn’t want to build the double-layer fence, he or she legally does not have to!”

    I just have to ask:

    Are our politicians deliberately poking their fingers into citizens’ eyes, and deliberately trying to provoke an insurrection?

    Has this crossed anyone else’s mind?

17. #17
    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, letget said:

    Cattleguards have to be banned. They might hurt some poor illegals feet getting caught in them sneaking into the US. ACLU will sue the land owner, win, and the illegal will have the the homestead. That is how it works now. It has happened before.
    L

18. #18
    On March 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, yt1300inHtown said:

    Border Fence, we hardly knew ye.

19. #19
    On March 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, secondsight said:

    Take the long view.

    Eventually Africanized honeybees will build our fence.

20. #20
    On March 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Perhaps this is an appropriate spot to point out that Duncan Hunter’s son (Marine Corps Captain, Fallujah vet) is running for Congress and could use some support.

21. #21
    On March 26th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, rooster said:

    http://www.bordermovie.com

    Above movie should be mandatory viewing for all government employees.

    Anyone ever wonder how these people get deported and still have the thousands of dollars to pay the coyotes for a return trip ticket?

    Not only do they sneak walk accross our border and depress wages and take our jobs, but they bring in massive amounts of drugs to pay their coyotes for safe passage.

22. #22
    On March 26th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Boomer said:

    On March 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, granite said: #16
    Are our politicians deliberately poking their fingers into citizens’ eyes, and deliberately trying to provoke an insurrection?

    One of several reasons our household has planned to use our stimulus package to stockpile ammunition and foodstuffs for the 2nd revolution/civil war looming in the very near future. I believe it was Kipling that wrote “one can never have too many books, too much wine, or too much ammunition.”

    I haven’t seen this country so divided since the 1850s, our political overlords (some think themselves elected for life) could give a damn about the average citizen’s safety or our national sovereignty, the callously spend our stolen tax dollars on pork barrel projects, the beyond broken political selection process by both parties, and one political party in league with the Soros funded minions continue to attack our military giving their very lives and limbs to fight our enemies overseas despite our wide open borders. Eventually the frustration level of the average taxpayer will be set off by one incident too many thanks to our wide open borders or a mass casualty attack and the fight will be on.

23. #23
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #21 I bought it and watched and can’t agree more.

24. #24
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:07 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #22 Boomer were you alive in the 1850’s?

25. #25
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:12 pm, md1964 said:

    America’s Gov’t…for sale to the highest bidder. Evidently Mexico and the Drug Cartels have out bid everyone else for the services of our Elected leaders.

26. #26
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, granite said:

    #22 Boomer:

    Over the past 20 years or so, with each succcessive, incremental, destructive, salami-tactic outrage against this wonderful nation/culture/society of ours, I’ve been thinking that, ultimately, we will be facing not just a culture war, which is a cold, non-shooting civil war; but will in fact find ourselves in an actual, shooting, civil war.
    And, I think more and more that that might be the only way to save our nation.

    So, once (hopefully quite soon) my wife and I get the hell out of this dreadful blue state (what was I thinking that I took this job and moved here?), I’m seriously considering (more and more each day) purchasing a firearm/s; and learning how to use it/them safely and really, really effectively, should the ultimate need arise.

27. #27
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, dakine said:

    Boomer and granite, how would such a “hot” cultural war play out? Who would be fighting who? Civil wars over the course of history, to the best of my knowledge, have always involved overwhelmingly dire economic conditions, fights over religious superiority or insurrections against extreme and evil totalitarian regimes. I don’t see Americans killing each other in a civil war over gay marriage, pornography, school prayer, the content of movies and TV programs, etc.

28. #28
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Dakine #27
    All of those things though will lead to economic decline. I know most do not believe they lead to economic problems, but history has shown that to be true.
    Morally bankrupt society never will be anything but economically bankrupt (over the longer run).

29. #29
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, gayle said:

    OK.

    So there you have it.

    Let’s reward them with NO MONEY FOR TAXES.

    Fair enough?

30. #30
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, John Ansell said:

    Gayle, If 20 million of us decided not to pay our taxes, would they just say, “there are too many to go after”? I think we will hear them say “20 million is a drop in the ocean, lets round them up”. It’s time we grab the pitch forks and torches and throw another old fashioned Boston Tea Party.

31. #31
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “The next President — whether it be Obama or Clinton or McCain — will have no clear legal authority to build any of the border fence at all.”

    You gotta hand to `em: that our Reps in the House could include a poison pill like this in a bill designed to protect us citizens and still have the nerve to come around with smiles on their faces, asking us to elect them because they’ll take care of us, takes brass ones!

32. #32
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, gayle said:

    John,
    It is TIME to take action.

    If enough people do it, then there is no money to give handouts to illegals.

    They cannot round us up any more than they can find illegals.

    They break the laws…….it’s time for a rebellion.

33. #33
    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    The day where the ballot box has become ineffective is getting closer with crap like this.

    That means the ammo box. Open Borders slimebags who snuck that into the bill should be the first against the wall.

    whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

34. #34
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, John Ansell said:

    Unbelievable how they just keep coming in. Our BP caught these guys, but how many make it? Not only should we not pay our taxes, we should boycott the businesses that keep hiring them. Tyson Chicken, not in my house.

35. #35
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, granite said:

    #33 Ordinary Coloradan:

    It’s inspiring and humbling to read the Declaration of Independence, and to realize that the part you posted could have been written ten minutes ago.

    Thank you.

36. #36
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, gayle said:

    We need to start a grassroots organization pronto.

    Any suggestions on taking action???

37. #37
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, letget said:

    Gayle,
    Have you checked out the FairTax? It has no way to be passed, but it makes illegals as well as anyone who buys anything pay taxes on what they buy. Just a thought for the posters to look into. We have a mess beyond belief with the choices for Pres. All will crater our country if elected. What is a person to do? I have never in my many years as a voting person had such gosh awful mess to deal with.
    L

38. #38
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, gayle said:

    I’d swear that Satan is running the whole show.

    I am NOT kidding either.

39. #39
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, rooster said:

    John Ansell,

    I used to wonder how they afforded the coyote fees until I saw the bordermovie. Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs! Yes, these harmless hard working people earn their trip by carrying drugs accross our border.

40. #40
    On March 26th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, Boomer said:

    On March 26th, 2008 at 4:07 pm, xler8bmw said:
    #22 Boomer were you alive in the 1850’s?

    Nope! I am very well read and self educated on US History to include the political/economical situations leading to the American Revolution, War of 1812, and American Civil War.

41. #41
    On March 26th, 2008 at 6:06 pm, letget said:

    rooster,
    I live in S TX and almost every evening on the news is more drug bust, thousand and or millions they got. That is just what they found.
    gayle,
    You got it right!!!
    L

42. #42
    On March 26th, 2008 at 6:31 pm, graysonret said:

    We will get our fence when terrorists sneak across and bomb something with a loss of life. Then, the fence will be built, after a long time of debates, blame-gaming, committees, subcommittees, and infinite speeches denying any responsibility for not building it.

43. #43
    On March 26th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, carole said:

    At least sign up for NumbersUSA.com….with little effort you can send faxes etc to congress.

    Don’t give up….

44. #44
    On March 26th, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    Even the Mormons are encouraging members to stockpile a year’s worth of food. Chance favors the prepared. Remember Katrina?

45. #45
    On March 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm, PurpleHaze said:

    RE: Ordinary Coloradan

    My thoughts exactly.

46. #46
    On March 26th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, zorro said:

    Just signed the petition.

    …the fence-gutting provision that was put into the omnibus spending bill just before Christmas also causes the Department of Homeland Security’s authority on constructing new border fencing to expire at the end of this year.

    Those dirty rotten scoundrels! What a bunch of low life’s, someone needs to ask that idiot, Juan McCain, what his thoughts are on this now that he would like us to believe he is for enforcement first. Time to hold his feet to the fire.

47. #47
    On March 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, brooklyn red said:

    I highly recommend grassfire…

    I also recommend numbers USA, Act for America, the NRA and voting out every single member of congress on general principal.

    OK, someone will say save this one or that one, but I just can’t see it.

48. #48
    On March 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, ajmontana said:

    Why doesnt the USA just legalize the drugs and open the border completely? get em out of the shadows as they say and want…. its to the point of being that ridicules anyway…

49. #49
    On March 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm, ajmontana said:

    OK, someone will say save this one or that one, but I just can’t see it.

    Not me Red, I say flush the lot of em down the sewer and say ENOUGH! and were not going to take it anymore.

50. #50
    On March 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, MrScribbler said:

    And, on Dec. 31, former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean will be nearing the start of their second year of imprisonment, thanks to the efforts of Jorge Boosh, Congress and the absolute silence emanating from those who should care most about American citizens upholding our laws.

    If we allow the government to destroy the lives of our protectors, what good will a fence do?

51. #51
    On March 26th, 2008 at 10:00 pm, scooter56 said:

    On March 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, MrScribbler said:

    And, on Dec. 31, former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean will be nearing the start of their second year of imprisonment, thanks to the efforts of Jorge Boosh, Congress and the absolute silence emanating from those who should care most about American citizens upholding our laws.

    As a member of the party of personal responsibility, I think the convicted felons are right where they belong.

52. #52
    On March 26th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, MrScribbler said:

    Scooter56 said: “As a member of the party of personal responsibility, I think the convicted felons are right where they belong.”

    You mean in the White House and Congress? Or are you a Democrat who believes in free flow of illegal drugs and real felons across the border from Mexico?

    If ever there was an illegal, kangaroo-court proceeding, it was the case of a serial drug-smuggler’s word being accepted over that of two men sworn to uphold the law. The fact that the smuggler was given a cross-the-border-free pass and other preferential treatment is highly suspect, too, as was pressure put on the court to ignore/seal testimony and allow the government persecutors to distort the facts, over and over.

    I’m not really surprised you would take this erroneous view. After all, the MSM proclaimed Ramos and Compean guilty, and neither MM nor Rash Limbaugh or any other “conservative pundits” bothered to get involved.

53. #53
    On March 26th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, scooter56 said:

    MrScribbler,Thank you for the definition of Democrats. I never knew they were so evil. And the illegal court, and kangaroos too! Oh my….and to think that men sworn to uphold the law would ever break the law…..not in America.
    Is it too late for you to read the trial transcripts and look up all reporting on the case (not just those listed by the SPLC as hate sites). Or is the grand conspiracy of the MSM (whatever you describe that as) and the evil American government burned so deep into your frontal lobe that there is no hope.

    I will stand by my statement. Convicted felons should serve their sentences (even if wearing a uniform when the crime was committed).

54. #54
    On March 26th, 2008 at 11:23 pm, DaveC said:

    dont feed the troll

    dont feed the troll..

    he’s as usless and a blind butcher with one hand..

    dont feed the troll

    dont feed the troll..

55. #55
    On March 26th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, DaveC said:

    he’s as usless AS as blind butcher

    fixxed it..

56. #56
    On March 27th, 2008 at 4:08 am, gayle said:

    If I want to give my money to Mexico, I’ll either move there or be a tourist.

    Dang if I am giving it to the insane asylum (Congress) to give it to them as if they earned or deserved it.

    Time for the “power of the PEOPLE” to take action. It’s Now or Never folks!

57. #57
    On March 27th, 2008 at 10:37 am, smellycat41 said:

    WE ARE DOOMED!!!