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	<title>Comments on: Court to reconsider California home school ruling</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; California home-schooling update</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-348620</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; California home-schooling update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] remember the controversial California homeschooling decision from a few months back (see here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Squall Lines &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How to Destroy Non-Traditional Schools</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-279483</link>
		<dc:creator>Squall Lines &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How to Destroy Non-Traditional Schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] judge had no problem restricting all homeschooling households in the state. That decision is being challenged. The philosophy behind the ruling goes something like this: Only the state can create and guarantee [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] judge had no problem restricting all homeschooling households in the state. That decision is being challenged. The philosophy behind the ruling goes something like this: Only the state can create and guarantee [...]</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-275275</link>
		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about Thomas Jefferson because only God knows if Jefferson acknowledged his sins or not. This is not fo me to say but Jesus did say He came to divide. He said broher would be against sister, father against son, etc  depending on who has repented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about Thomas Jefferson because only God knows if Jefferson acknowledged his sins or not. This is not fo me to say but Jesus did say He came to divide. He said broher would be against sister, father against son, etc  depending on who has repented.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary's Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274650</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary's Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Decision to Ban Homeschoolers is Vacated!...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have just learned from the Family Research Center that the 2nd District Court of Appeals has vacated the decision by the California Supremes to ban anyone and everyone who does not a California quality teachers certificate and/or belongs to one ........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Decision to Ban Homeschoolers is Vacated!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have just learned from the Family Research Center that the 2nd District Court of Appeals has vacated the decision by the California Supremes to ban anyone and everyone who does not a California quality teachers certificate and/or belongs to one &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274449</link>
		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>garyt:

Doesn&#039;t that seem a bit divisive? Please, I want to be clear here: do you think that Thomas Jefferson went to hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garyt:</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that seem a bit divisive? Please, I want to be clear here: do you think that Thomas Jefferson went to hell?</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274442</link>
		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero Angel yes you are right when the only ones who go to heaven are those who have repented of their sins to Jesus Christ. He alone paid the price or all of our sins. All our good works are but filthy rags. Jesus Himself said There is no one good and He alone has paid our price to obtain heave. Jesus also said in Mathew that only a few make it to heaven and most are lost. I did not write the bible but only saying what Christ said. He also said in John 14 v6 that He is the only way to Heaven. In John 3 verse three He told a Jewish priest Nicodemus that He had to be born again to reach heaven. Sorry if these remarks offend anyone thats what He said. Some would probably say Jesus was against diversity and guilty of heat speech if He said those things again here. I agree with you there are many great people who have done great things but according to Jesus they are still lost if they have not repented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero Angel yes you are right when the only ones who go to heaven are those who have repented of their sins to Jesus Christ. He alone paid the price or all of our sins. All our good works are but filthy rags. Jesus Himself said There is no one good and He alone has paid our price to obtain heave. Jesus also said in Mathew that only a few make it to heaven and most are lost. I did not write the bible but only saying what Christ said. He also said in John 14 v6 that He is the only way to Heaven. In John 3 verse three He told a Jewish priest Nicodemus that He had to be born again to reach heaven. Sorry if these remarks offend anyone thats what He said. Some would probably say Jesus was against diversity and guilty of heat speech if He said those things again here. I agree with you there are many great people who have done great things but according to Jesus they are still lost if they have not repented.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30pcs,

(Sorry for taking so long to respond!)

Several families from our church took the children temporarily.  After swearing up and down that they would change, the parents were allowed to get the children back, but under the very watchful eye of DHS.  The families who had kept their children continued to serve as advocates for the children.

Fortunately this case ended up being a shining example of the system working well, although I will say that the advocacy that my church provided helped a great deal.  Unfortunately, the parents repeatedly failed to meet goals set by the court and eventually the children were removed permanently and placed in permanent foster care.  Thanks to a lot of help, they are all thriving.

What broke our hearts about this situation was that the oldest child, who was 12, tested at a second-grade reading and math level.  Her brother, who was 10, didn&#039;t do any better.  They had been neglected by their parents, who had used them as free babysitters.  We figured out that something was wrong when we offered to help them with homeschooling (which involved looking at the curriculum that they were using and getting their kids involved in homeschooling networks) and the parents flatly refused.  They knew their flimsy cover was about to be blown.

There is an old saying, &quot;unusual cases make bad law.&quot;  This family was certainly, by far, the exception for homeschooling families.  Overall, homeschooling is a great option for parents who cannot afford private school.  And here in OK City, we have a large network of homeschool programs that provides music, laboratory science, intramural sports, and other activities,  in partnership with private schools and churches.

As I wrote earlier, it is not in anyone&#039;s best interest for courts to overreact and take down the whole homeschooling system just because a handful of families abuse it.  I hope that the California decision is reversed -- the sooner the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30pcs,</p>
<p>(Sorry for taking so long to respond!)</p>
<p>Several families from our church took the children temporarily.  After swearing up and down that they would change, the parents were allowed to get the children back, but under the very watchful eye of DHS.  The families who had kept their children continued to serve as advocates for the children.</p>
<p>Fortunately this case ended up being a shining example of the system working well, although I will say that the advocacy that my church provided helped a great deal.  Unfortunately, the parents repeatedly failed to meet goals set by the court and eventually the children were removed permanently and placed in permanent foster care.  Thanks to a lot of help, they are all thriving.</p>
<p>What broke our hearts about this situation was that the oldest child, who was 12, tested at a second-grade reading and math level.  Her brother, who was 10, didn&#8217;t do any better.  They had been neglected by their parents, who had used them as free babysitters.  We figured out that something was wrong when we offered to help them with homeschooling (which involved looking at the curriculum that they were using and getting their kids involved in homeschooling networks) and the parents flatly refused.  They knew their flimsy cover was about to be blown.</p>
<p>There is an old saying, &#8220;unusual cases make bad law.&#8221;  This family was certainly, by far, the exception for homeschooling families.  Overall, homeschooling is a great option for parents who cannot afford private school.  And here in OK City, we have a large network of homeschool programs that provides music, laboratory science, intramural sports, and other activities,  in partnership with private schools and churches.</p>
<p>As I wrote earlier, it is not in anyone&#8217;s best interest for courts to overreact and take down the whole homeschooling system just because a handful of families abuse it.  I hope that the California decision is reversed &#8212; the sooner the better.</p>
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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274419</link>
		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>garyt:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What sends folks to hell is the ultimate rejection as Jesus Christ as your Saviour and repenting of your sins.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So does that mean Jews are going to hell? What about atheists? Agnostics? Deists? Unitarians?

What about folks like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin? Both of whom were argueably Deists (or possibly a Unitarian in Jefferson&#039;s case) and questioned the divinity of Jesus? Do you have to believe Jesus was the Son of God? Or is it OK to just think he was a great moral teacher?

Can you be an atheist that believes Jesus to be on par with thinkers like Socrates? What if you try your best to follow the morals and principles of Jesus yet reject the notion that there is a supreme being?

OK, /threadjack mode off, we now return you to our regularly scheduled program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garyt:</p>
<blockquote><p>What sends folks to hell is the ultimate rejection as Jesus Christ as your Saviour and repenting of your sins.</p></blockquote>
<p>So does that mean Jews are going to hell? What about atheists? Agnostics? Deists? Unitarians?</p>
<p>What about folks like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin? Both of whom were argueably Deists (or possibly a Unitarian in Jefferson&#8217;s case) and questioned the divinity of Jesus? Do you have to believe Jesus was the Son of God? Or is it OK to just think he was a great moral teacher?</p>
<p>Can you be an atheist that believes Jesus to be on par with thinkers like Socrates? What if you try your best to follow the morals and principles of Jesus yet reject the notion that there is a supreme being?</p>
<p>OK, /threadjack mode off, we now return you to our regularly scheduled program.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlawyered</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274369</link>
		<dc:creator>Overlawyered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;California homeschooling ruling...&lt;/strong&gt;

The court has granted rehearing, effectively agreeing to reconsider the issue (Malkin, Mar. 27; earlier).......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>California homeschooling ruling&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The court has granted rehearing, effectively agreeing to reconsider the issue (Malkin, Mar. 27; earlier)&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274293</link>
		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hey Hey Sausage you went off the deep end. Christians don&#039;t go to an everlasting hell for learning about evolution. What sends folks to hell is the ultimate rejection as Jesus Christ as your Saviour and repenting of your sins. We are exposed to evolution because schools are not diverse in teaching intelligent design. Seems that the more we get away from God the more problems our schools are having. By the way Jesus said in the last generation many of His followers would be lukewarm so you really have not witnissed any zealous Christians. One more point Muslims now are doing homeschooling too,, does that upset you as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hey Hey Sausage you went off the deep end. Christians don&#8217;t go to an everlasting hell for learning about evolution. What sends folks to hell is the ultimate rejection as Jesus Christ as your Saviour and repenting of your sins. We are exposed to evolution because schools are not diverse in teaching intelligent design. Seems that the more we get away from God the more problems our schools are having. By the way Jesus said in the last generation many of His followers would be lukewarm so you really have not witnissed any zealous Christians. One more point Muslims now are doing homeschooling too,, does that upset you as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Paasch</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274167</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Paasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We home school our four children, ages 8 - 12.  If we assume for a minute that there is, somewhere out there, a &quot;bad&quot; home school parent, then I have a couple of questions:

1)  Will government credentials for home school parents eliminate all &quot;bad&quot; home school parents?

And if not, then

2)  Should we logically assume that there are no &quot;bad&quot; teachers in government schools so that if all kids were forced into government schools they&#039;d all be protected from &quot;bad&quot; parents?

I&#039;m just asking....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We home school our four children, ages 8 &#8211; 12.  If we assume for a minute that there is, somewhere out there, a &#8220;bad&#8221; home school parent, then I have a couple of questions:</p>
<p>1)  Will government credentials for home school parents eliminate all &#8220;bad&#8221; home school parents?</p>
<p>And if not, then</p>
<p>2)  Should we logically assume that there are no &#8220;bad&#8221; teachers in government schools so that if all kids were forced into government schools they&#8217;d all be protected from &#8220;bad&#8221; parents?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just asking&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: zeroangel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274060</link>
		<dc:creator>zeroangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should be allowed to homeschool their kids anytime, anywhere, on thier own terms. IMHO the only time the state should get involved is standardized tests.

If the kids can&#039;t pass a high-school equivalency exam then its all on the parents and the kids don&#039;t get a diploma from the state. If they ace it, then good for them (and the parents) and the state should recognize this and the home-school degree should be no different than a govt. school degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should be allowed to homeschool their kids anytime, anywhere, on thier own terms. IMHO the only time the state should get involved is standardized tests.</p>
<p>If the kids can&#8217;t pass a high-school equivalency exam then its all on the parents and the kids don&#8217;t get a diploma from the state. If they ace it, then good for them (and the parents) and the state should recognize this and the home-school degree should be no different than a govt. school degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOMESCHOOLING-YOU CAN&#039;t do that!

That&#039;s what I heard 25 years ago while I was pregnant with my child.

I had read the book by the Moores-said I could - and did it!

To give courage to those who are considering home-schooling-my child was accepted by one of the Academies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOMESCHOOLING-YOU CAN&#8217;t do that!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I heard 25 years ago while I was pregnant with my child.</p>
<p>I had read the book by the Moores-said I could &#8211; and did it!</p>
<p>To give courage to those who are considering home-schooling-my child was accepted by one of the Academies.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Croskey Gets Schooled &#171; TheScroogeReport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice Croskey Gets Schooled &#171; TheScroogeReport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Court to reconsider California home school ruling Hey, remember that California home-schooling case in which Justice H. Walter Croskey ruled that “Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children?” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justice Croskey Gets Schooled &#171; TheScroogeReport</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/27/court-to-reconsider-california-home-school-ruling/comment-page-1/#comment-274013</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice Croskey Gets Schooled &#171; TheScroogeReport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Court to reconsider California home school ruling Hey, remember that California home-schooling case in which Justice H. Walter Croskey ruled that “Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children?” [...]</description>
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