Michelle Malkin » Fitna has arrived; Update: “Restraint?” We’ll see; Plus: A case of mistaken identity

Fitna has arrived; Update: “Restraint?” We’ll see; Plus: A case of mistaken identity

By Michelle Malkin • March 27, 2008 02:28 PM

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Readers are sending the Liveleak English version of Geert Wilders’ Fitna, which has just been posted. (Be patient, may be a little slow to load.) It’s 15 minutes with scenes of jihad interlaced with quotes from the Koran. We are reminded of 9/11, Madrid, the murder of Theo van Gogh, and the threats to Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s life.

The film ends not with any blasphemous image of Mohammed, but with an image of a hand about to tear out the murderous verses of the Koran and a sound effect of tearing (with a caption explaining that the sound was actually the sound of a page being torn from a phonebook).

Prepare for more March Madness. I don’t know what “solidarity” is in Dutch, but show it by embedding the video, e-mailing it, and writing about it. Their fight for the right to criticize the Religion of Perpetual Outrage is our fight.

Lan astaslem:

Lan astaslem: Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”

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Update: Liveleak speaks!

Update: Some have been able to upload “Fitna” to YouTube; it’s been yanked in some places, hidden behind the 18-or-older wall in others.

Update: There is supposedly “restraint” and anger following the release of “Fitna.” We’ll see how “restrained” the Religion of Perpetual Outrage is after the mosques let out tomorrow:

In a short statement delivered both in Dutch and in English, Mr Balkende said the Government “regrets” that Wilders released his 17-minute movie on the internet, as he had been vowing to do.

“We believe it serves no purpose other than to offend,” he said.

“But feeling offended must never be used as an excuse for aggression and threats.”

The Prime Minister said the Government felt heartened “by the initial restrained reaction by Dutch Muslim organisations”.

In initial reactions, those organisations seemed relieved that Wilders’ film - which mixed violent images of terror attacks with Koranic texts - were not as bad as expected.

Update: D’oh.

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#1

On March 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Christian Soldier said:

WOW!

Thank you.

Holger Danske
VAGNER
#2

On March 27th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, letget said:

Michelle, I have the ‘I will not submit’ sticker on my front door window. I hope Robert Spencer will put this on his site also and spreads every where. These snakes need their fangs removed, ROP, my rear!
L
#3

On March 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Citizen Duck said:

And… cue Islamic Rage Boy!

I don’t know what “solidarity” is in Dutch…

My handy-dandy translator widget returns “solidariteit”!

And in solidarity-related news, I’ll make sure and stock up on the Heinekin tonight and drink a toast to Mr. Wilders.
#4

On March 27th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, John Ansell said:

I wish they would have torn the actual pages of the book of hate. Just saying…
#5

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, Romeo13 said:

/Loads the .45, and gets out the popcorn…
#6

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, zorro said:

Hip Hip Hooray! And oh yeah, a note to the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, bring it on.
#7

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, Sergeant Tim said:

Their warning is correct, it is very disturbing to watch.

Yet our country was attacked by Islamic-facists, my family buried a hero of the first day of our War on Terror, and we will never forget.
#8

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, bloghooligan said:

great film. this is the first time i’ve seen someone emphasize that radical islam wants to dominate the world…coming from the Iranian president, no less.

anyway, i have a few of my own:

سسك إت - suck it

كسس مي أسس - kiss my a**

فسك يأ - *expletive* you

الله هس قت نتهنق أن جسس - Allah’s got nothing on Jesus
#9

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, nyc123me said:

I want to see the end of this evil that is plaguing the earth. I never thought in my life I would feel what I feel right now against a people, based purely on what they represent, as opposed to feeling that hate towards an individual based on their own actions.

Nuke them. Every last one of them.

Islam is NOT a religion, it is a cult of evil.
#10

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, nyc123me said:

PLAY THIS TO EVERY LEFTIST ANTI-AMERICAN PROTESTER YOU CAN FIND.
#11

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, J S Ragman said:

Great film. Those imams are some sick dogs.
#12

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pm, Leatherneck said:

I was never kidding when I wrote BZO your weapons, square away your H-harness, and put some POLISH on those boots!

BTW, get a hair cut, and get in the gym.
#13

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, tarpon said:

Islamists in their own words. What’s inflammatory about that. They did the deeds for all to see as a threat, why would they be afraid some would see the short film? It’s what they wanted, wasn’t it?
#14

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, nyc123me said:

Here’s a capitalist venture: koran toilet paper.
#15

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, rightisright said:

That’s why I call it a “Death Cult”…we have to stop this pc crap and kill em, before they kill us. They’ve have brought it on themselves.
#16

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, desertdweller said:

Quite a powerful film. Wow.
#17

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, md1964 said:

If that doesn’t strike a nerve in you…. then you are already dead.

“For every drop of blood we fail to shed on the alter of Freedom today, is going to require a gallon from the next generation to keep their own freedom.”
#18

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, walterc said:

Very powerful film.

Given the way gays are viewed by islam, I don’t understand why the left supports it. You’d think they would be against islam as much as we are, but noooo. They defend it like it’s some under privileged social group.
#19

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, ajmontana said:

These people preaching this bull could care less about Allah, they just want to kill, period. Murderous scum.
Preachers like Wright are doing nothing to help matters here at home, I dont care how much Obama defends him, he’s poisonous trash.
#20

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

Quick!!! Someone who is more skilled than I!!!! Anyone using Firefox browser, if you install something called greasemonkey, you can save this to your computer (before it gets wiped away!!) I just went back and there is some BS disclaimer that “Due to increased traffic yada yada yada….!!! Quick, someone grab this!!!
#21

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:07 pm, max said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, nyc123me said:
PLAY THIS TO EVERY LEFTIST ANTI-AMERICAN PROTESTER YOU CAN FIND.

unfortuantely it will make no difference whatsoever to those idiot apologists… they will just say it is a propogandic distortion..oh, and Bush is to blame…
#22

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, zeroangel said:

The film ends not with any blasphemous image of Mohammed, but with an image of a hand about to tear out the murderous verses of the Koran and a sound effect of tearing (with a caption explaining that the sound was actually the sound of a page being torn from a phonebook).

Why? Why not end with actually tearing out said pages?
#23

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, walterc said:

Oh, and just in time for Friday prayers.

Let the seething begin.

Come on islam, show us again how peaceful you are.
#24

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, allrsn said:

Wish I could see the full version. I wonder if the Netherlands does fall, will we open our eyes then? How long until this is banned from the net also? How many msm outlets will show this film? LOL we should try to count them!

THIS is what the dems want to totally ignor!

It would be interesting to see a documented time-line of islamic movements and actions over the last 100 years or so. I wonder what artistic picture it would protray?

Everyone who sees this should em it to all their friends. Everyone who sees this MUST keep it alive and spread the word. We must ALL be aware that we have a enemy,who they are, what they are, and how they fight!
#25

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:17 pm, carole said:

call to arms

make copies of film
send to newspaper
send to subscribed magazines
send to your congressman your senator state and national
send to your governor
send to your mayor
send to child’s teacher
send to your pastor
be brave
#26

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, allrsn said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, UberInfidel67 said:
Quick!!! Someone who is more skilled than I!!!! Anyone using Firefox browser, if you install something called greasemonkey, you can save this to your computer (before it gets wiped away!!) I just went back and there is some BS disclaimer that “Due to increased traffic yada yada yada….!!! Quick, someone grab this!!!

Yes I would like to save a copie also. If anyone knows of or finds a way for me to save it on IE. Please let everyone know.
#27

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:19 pm, st_james said:

Seething? If only.

Here’s to hoping this will wake some people up. ( I know, I’m naive. )

I had purposely never seen beheading footage. That was as close as I hope to ever come; it was truly disturbing. What kind of depraved savage could ever do such a thing?

Stay safe Mr. Wilders.
#28

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:24 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, walterc said:

Very powerful film.

Given the way gays are viewed by islam, I don’t understand why the left supports it. You’d think they would be against islam as much as we are, but noooo. They defend it like it’s some under privileged social group.

Because the truth is that the left just HATES America and wants to destroy it. The gay movement is just another way to drive more wedges between Americans and our traditional culture. The gays will be discarded when the time comes for the end of our country.
#29

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 3:31 pm, Leatherneck said:

I was never kidding when I wrote BZO your weapons, square away your H-harness, and put some POLISH on those boots!

BTW, get a hair cut, and get in the gym.

Been at it for years…
#30

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Perfesser said:

Thanks for posting this!

We’re wasting our breath with liberals. Their world view doesn’t allow seeing jihadists for what they are. And our collective political “leadership” seems too focused on accumulating power and $.

As many people as possible need to save a copy, and distibute copies.

As for Denmark falling, why would we respond to that? We watched nearly all of Europe (not to mention the Pacific region) fall TWICE before fighting back.

We need to end this in our generation…if it’s not already too late.

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:17 pm, carole said:
call to arms

May it be heard. God bless, and have mercy on us all…..
#31

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, cpodug said:

Why do I get the feeling that God isn’t going to put up with this crap much longer? Why would He bless the United States, when we do our best to tune Him out?
#32

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, mattymatt10 said:

At 6:40, does it actually show the hostage get decapitated? Cuz I don’t want to see that.

I’ve avoided all those videos on purpose, and I have no desire to see them now.
#33

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

RE #26….From what I gather, it can only be saved using the Firefox browser. BUT…and it’s a big one….if you install Firefox just long enough to add the add-on and then download it, you can convert it to play on what is called Wimpy FLV player. That also plays Saved YouTube videos with SaveTube, but LiveLeak I guess only works with the Firefox. If I get it first (too much traffic)…I would be more than happy to forward to friends : )
#34

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, bit_boy said:

Have nots such as myself who are restricted to using dial up 56k band width have little change to view most/all Michelle/HotAir audio visual clips. What would be of great service would be to screen print poignant scenes/screens with accompanying text as tabled/html and images/compressed 11% jpg. I’d do it myself but downloading 15 minutes of audio/visual at 56k would be time prohibitive.
#35

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, tgusa said:

Fitna rage in 3..2.. Make way Motoons, Fitna is here. Disturbing, the number of people out there that have not yet or are just beginning to get the message of Fitna, that’s disturbing. The movie is just islam (you can read it all for yourself they wrote it all down)but many people will find that disturbing as well.
#36

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, mattymatt10 said:

Nevermind, I just fast forwarded past the whole scene. And then I covered my eyes at the genital mutilation stuff. There’s some things in the world that you don’t need to see first-hand to know are wrong.

Anyway, I hated Islam before the film (yes, I said HATE), and still do.

But Geert Wilders has a huge set, if you know what I’m saying. Much respect.

Death to Islam.
#37

On March 27th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, josetheguerilla said:

Wow!!!!!!!!!!
#38

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, DagneyT said:

EU has systematically driving out Christianity for decades, and now the chickens are coming home to roost (I refuse to give credit to Rev. Wright!). Churches have closed all over Eurabia, and mosques have filled the religious void with it’s intolerance and hatred. God help us!

The good news is that Christianity is saving 6 million Muslims a year!
#39

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, walterc said:

DagneyT said:

EU has systematically driving out Christianity for decades, and now the chickens are coming home to roost (I refuse to give credit to Rev. Wright!). Churches have closed all over Eurabia, and mosques have filled the religious void with it’s intolerance and hatred. God help us!

Since islam doesn’t comprise of one or more governments, I’m not sure how (if it’s possible) to save Europe this time.
#40

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, PBoilermaker said:

Nothing new to the usual MM or HA readers, but powerful nonetheless. I just wish it would get more widespread promotion…LiveLeak won’t reach the audience that needs to hear it.
#41

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

Great piece. It would do no good to show it on TV. You put this on and American Idol on the same night and guess what the talk at the water cooler the next day would be? If you guessed who got bumped from Idol, you would be right.

Europe will fall without a war and sausage will condemn the USA for not saving Europe.
#42

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, DaMav said:

Thank you for your continued courage. Someone link to an easily downloadable version so we can get this video out in viral form.

Stop islamisation. Fight back. We shall not submit.

A small gesture I have adopted:

Don’t capitalize islam.
#43

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, letget said:

If the US doesn’t get their act together, we will be under the thumb of these people inch by inch. Cair, ACLU, dem’s, cab drivers won’t take people with seeing eye dogs, separate gyms for female muslims, supermarket muslims won’t touch pork, etc,etc. We can hope maybe a tiny bit of American’s will see what is happening right before our eyes with this movie.
L
#44

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:42 pm, coldfront said:

This is the American tandem to FITNA.

“Religiously driven people do things that don’t calculate in nice academic faculty surroundings & they don’t calculate @ the State department & they don’t calculate in a rational way in most of our bureaucracies. We are in trouble.” N.Gingrich

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/03/deeply-worried.html
#45

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, WORK949 said:

Thank you, Geert Wilders, for your courage.

Thank you, Michelle Malkin, for your courage.

I am armed.

I will not surrender to Islam.
#46

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, sausage said:

We have to stop this pc crap and kill em

The gay movement is just another way to drive more wedges between Americans and our traditional culture. The gays will be discarded when the time comes for the end of our country.

Nuke them. Every last one of them.

The Power of Nightmares
#47

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:52 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

Glenn Beck of CNN may provide air time for FITNA.

Geert Wilders has posted a request for financial aid to distribute this film. . . Freedom is not free.

In case this video is pulled, here are additional sources:

(via IBA):

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

or download here: http://cdn.liveleak.com/16/media16/2008/Mar/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

Torrent: http://www.mininova.org/tor/1275560

RapidShare (English): http://rs34.rapidshare.com/files/102852229/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410&hl=en

Download:
http://rapidshare.com/files/102873205/Fitna-English.flv

http://www.viddler.com/bran8464/videos/9/
#48

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, rightside said:

My handy-dandy translator widget returns “solidariteit”!
March 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Citizen Duck

Confirmed.
#49

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

OK…the Firefox thingy didn’t work correctly, BUT….if you have RealPlayer 11, you have an option in “setup” for a “download this video button”. i did that and now have my own copy of the movie. Not used to RealPlayer but will find out if I can burn to CD or DVD or even email it around.
#50

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, rooster said:

This should be required viewing at all theaters like they did with the old news reels during WWII.
#51

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, nyc123me said:

FireFox plugin
#52

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:19 pm, TexasTiger said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, sausage said:

The Power of Nightmares

More like the power of reality…dumbarse.
#53

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, Jim M. said:

How dare infidels use language quoted directly from the Koran and quotes from Imams as a backdrop against news stories on Islamic terrorism fueled by the language from the Koran and quotes from Imams!
#54

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:24 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

Try this:

http://cdn.liveleak.com/16/media16/2008/Mar/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

It is big but have patience : )
#55

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, nyc123me said:

Coldfront #44 - great video link thanks.
Sausage #46 - not so great video thanks - ou can freely bury your head in the sand if you wish, but the reality is out there in front of your eyes should you care to look. As for politicians using it for political gain - often that is true, but that doesn’t make it any less real. ..vid stream kept stalling too, on 28-30mbps cable connection..
#56

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:35 pm, TMoney said:

Incredibly moving scenes.
I have already seen most of them via Michelle and other courageous bloggers - not from the lamestreams.

The proof is staring us in the face of what they want; it is up to all of the freedom-loving people of the world to put an end to the madness.
#57

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, Jim M. said:

Must be something about the Dutch. Another Dutch citizen, Patries de Jong, created a piece called the Blood of Heroes for the NYFD. It is an incredible visual memorial for 9/11.
#58

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, sausage said:

The Power of Nightmares

And “sausage” is exactly what these people want to make out of you.

Would you disagree that the sky looks blue just because George Bush also says it does?
#59

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm, dukebedevilment said:

A powerful film.

Lan astaslem!
#60

On March 27th, 2008 at 6:54 pm, ajmontana said:

Here’s more…. Never forget.
where were you?
#61

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, nyc123me said:

I remember after 911 quotes such as ‘the awakening of a giant’ relating to the expected reaction of the US.. where did that giant go?
#62

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, ajmontana said:

he lives in the ukraine and is 8′5″ tall….. cant remember his name though….
#63

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, a crapweasel said:

While watching the part in it showing terror and brutality, all I could picture in my mind were Muslims watching this laughing and cheering as if they were watching a NBA slamdunking contest.
#64

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, Larry L. Sharp said:

I applaud Geert Wilders’ bravey and his concern for his countrymen.

Fitna, is an expression of his beliefs and concerns just as jihad, murder, terror, female genital mutilation are the result of following the Koran.

Fitna, does not expose anything new about Islam. Nor does it expose anything new about muslims or the Koran.

As a Pentecostal, my first and foremost concern for all people is their salvation. Yes, the violence and atrocities the Muslims commit are a grave concern but not nearly as much as seeing so many people wholly given to the idolatry of Islam. Their idolatry is what fuels their hatred, their arrogance, their murderous and destructive rages.

Idolatry is the problem.

The Koran is the means by which the fires of idolatry are stoked to a white hot fire.
#65

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, DaMav said:

@UberInfidel67
Thanks, that link worked fine. 38 megs, big but not huge.
#66

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, Boomer said:

Finally able to get home and watch this. The DOD doesn’t allow me to see videos or go to Hot Air while at work. I found myself clenching my jaw rather hard while watching this. I am with Leatherneck #12 BZO my weapons while keeping myself proficient in their use, harness ready, boots polished and BDU’s serviceable ready to wear, and hair cut to military standards yesterday. Need to get back on the bike as soon as the weather allows and drop 10 lbs this spring (should take about a month) while hitting the base gym a couple of times a week working the upper body. Thanks Michelle for linking to this reminder of why we must fight to win.
#67

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, shooter said:

Sad, Mad, Tearing, Horrifying reality.

The most powerful 15 minutes in film history.
.
Pay attention world, this is REAL!!!!!
.
thx MM.
STOP Islamists
God Bless and long live Geert Wilders & thank you.
#68

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:01 pm, shooter said:

1,600,000
one point six MILLION views at live link already.
#69

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

#64….No problem….now let’s spread it even FURTHER around!!!
#70

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, Boomer said:

Finally able to get home and watch this. The DOD doesn’t allow me to see videos or go to Hot Air while at work. I found myself clenching my jaw rather hard while watching this. I am with Leatherneck #12 BZO my weapons while keeping myself proficient in their use, harness ready, boots polished and BDU’s serviceable ready to wear, and hair cut to military standards yesterday. Need to get back on the bike as soon as the weather allows and drop 10 lbs this spring (should take about a month) while hitting the base gym a couple of times a week working the upper body. Thanks Michelle for linking to this reminder of why we must fight to win.

I think the barbarians are going to be in for a rude awakening when they face the wrath of the American citizenry, which will deal with them far more harshly than our wimpy government will.

Once the citizens on Flight 93 knew what the plan was they took care of business and denied the pigs the victory of their attack.

The rest of us are armed and ready, and there will be “a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
#71

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, greysheepdog said:

This is similar to the documentary “Obsession” which stresses the extreme similarities to the Nazi Movememnt. I own that video already. And it’s over an hour long. Someone ought to pull the cobwebs off of that one too.
#72

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:21 pm, Laree said:

I know they are already in Appalachia, This is a reaction to the MHA (Melungeon Historial Association) and its association with Turkish association. Last month there were two resignations and this is a Melungeon Research Author, Tim Hashaw, demanding his books be taken off of the MHA website. Melungeons don’t descend from Turkish people, there is no such thing as Turkish DNA, nothing specific to Turkish people’s DNA to indentify them from other people who come from the same geographical area. The MHRG is trying to expose what the MHA has been doing. This came to ahead when the Turkish Govt was lobbying our Govt over the Armenian geneocide issue alot of Melungeon researchers refused to let Melungeon heritage be used for political influence. Again Melungeons are not of Turkish descent.

This is one link but if you read through the entire blog in between research blogs, you can read in depth on this subject. We are trying to get the word out. There is one on Hillary Clinton and Dennis Hassert.

http://historical-melungeons.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-wont-play-mha.html
#73

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:23 pm, greysheepdog said:

FYI http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
#74

On March 27th, 2008 at 8:43 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

After listening to those Imams, are any of them guest preachers at Trinity United Church of Christ?
#75

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm, brooklyn red said:

Sigh…

OK, there are between 5 & 6 million Israelis & oh I don’t know, 1.5 billion muslims (give or take a few hundred million) and the Israelis survive because??? oh yeah, they fight back… what a concept!

Those that will (hopefully) fight this inevitable war are are now being taught political correctness in the 1st & 2nd grades… not an encouraging prognoses.

If we do not first defeat the unwitting enemy within, in this generation, the next is lost… the most disturbing thing (to me) in this video, was the sign that read “freedom go to hell”…

Teach your children well, for the time is nearly at hand.
#76

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pm, zorro said:

I finally watched the entire film uninterrupted. We must continue to carry the fight to these fanatics. We must crush them, completely.
#77

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, Dandapani said:

Aum Namaha Shivaya.
#78

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, ciceroskip said:

#75 “freedom go to hell”
That is the first time I saw that sign. I also got really pissed at the comments against democracy. This must be a pretty powerful movie because I don’t see any of the usual bullsh** from lgm
#79

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm, zorro said:

Update from Michelle: …sued…Because Wilders mistakenly used a photo of Dutch-Moroccan rapper Salah Edin instead of Mohammed Bouyeri.

That was a bit sloppy on Wilders’ part.
#80

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm, Jaded said:

Make sure to digg it from Liveleak so it gets to the top of the page as well….it needs to be seen by as many people as possible….though alot of it is recycled and if you care to see who your enemy is you will have already seen the bulk of video….no dhimmi here:-)
#81

On March 27th, 2008 at 10:40 pm, amboytimes said:

I’m surprised the verse of the sword (9:29) and 9:111 weren’t included. But of course with 164 verses of violent jihad to choose from, you have to leave some out.
#82

On March 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm, marsouin said:

Has anyone heard of a significant organization of Western muslims standing up for the West and its liberties against the rampant jihadist sympathies in their own community? How many muslims living in the West truly deep down is willing to fight and die for West and these liberties? If not, I fear there will be an understandable backlash against Western muslims if another major attack (nbc) occurs in the West.
#83

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:23 pm, nyc123me said:

I keep hearing both here in the US and from a few friends living in Islamic countries that these extremists are only a small minority of Islam followers, and that the vast majority are lovely peaceful people. My question to them is; why do these lovely peaceful people and their Imams almost never speak out against the violent extremists? I’ve yet to get a reply, and the crickets continue chirping.
#84

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

Has anyone heard of a significant organization of Western muslims standing up for the West and its liberties against the rampant jihadist sympathies in their own community? How many muslims living in the West truly deep down is willing to fight and die for West and these liberties? If not, I fear there will be an understandable backlash against Western muslims if another major attack (nbc) occurs in the West.

I have not heard of ONE. In fact, all we hear out the Muslims who are lucky enough to live freely among us is “Don’t blame us” whenever there is another act of barbarism. But I never hear any condemnation of those “few” bad people.

I’d say they all have it coming.
#85

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm, nyc123me said:

#82 - “I fear there will be an understandable backlash against Western muslims if another major attack (nbc) occurs in the West.”

You can bank on that. After 911 I was appalled by attacks on American Muslims, however the ensuing 6+ years of silence and almost complete lack of condemnation from non-extremist followers has altered my opinion.
#86

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

#82 - I went through the same transition as you did. Not I say it’s time for a reckoning. They’ve earned it.
#87

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:35 pm, Jiobaobubai said:

whoops…”Now I say…”

RIP ROP
#88

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:42 pm, almeehan said:

We’ve heard some excerpts from the book of satan’s heart now hear from the true Word:

Ephesians 6:12
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

This isn’t going to go away easy folks. In fact the distresses of nations spoken of in other parts of the Bible is obviously already begun. When 54 million muslims in Europe get their epiphany what do you think the many millions of muslims in the USA are going to do? We need to pray for wisdom for whoever leads our country. No, the economy or the war in Iraq are not the #1 real issues that face us as a nation. They are very peripheral but will add to the chaos (not Rushs’) coming on the free world. I fear the west doesn’t have the stomach for a fight, but a fight it will be if we are to survive. It’s too long to put in here but read Revelations 19:11-19. Christ will have the last word on islam and their fate is sealed.
#89

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:58 pm, chow said:

downloaded it in about 5 minutes on bit torrent. Going to watch it now.
#90

On March 27th, 2008 at 11:59 pm, marsouin said:

I’d say they all have it coming.

Because of this long continued silence, I don’t have an ounce of trust in Western muslims. If there were a real possibility of the jihadists taking over by force of arms any Western country, including the US, I’m certain the vast majority would pick up arms for the other side and against us.
#91

On March 28th, 2008 at 5:41 am, graysonret said:

Quite a movie. Thanks, Michelle. The so-called “moderate” moslems are silent on all this. This shows they support the radicals. I saw, in the film, clerics who cannot get elected and have an absolute obsession with power-grabbing. So, they have created enemies and directed their congregations to fight them. All the while, they sit back, count their money and sip their coffee. You won’t see them in the “front lines”. They whip up the people to a frenzy and send them out, Those that die are called “martyrs”, of course, but are quickly forgotten. The important thing is the clerics gaining control. Paradise and virgins are just a means to the end. Promise the frenzied people anything to get them to kill themselves…not for Allah (as is said) but for the clerics. Once again, religion, a man-made device for faith, is easily corruptible. As was once said, anything man-made can be corrupted. We have corruption in our own Christianity, though it’s controlled. The Rev. Wrights are all around. Not like the Islamic religion which has been out of control. It will eventually come to a showdown, as the radicals on both sides come to blows. People will die on both sides and the ministers and clerics will rejoice the “martyrs”. Satan, meanwhile, sits back and laughs.
#92

On March 28th, 2008 at 8:53 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

Powerful movie. I asked my wife to watch it, then emailed the link to everyone in my address book.

I sometimes wonder if maybe our politicians and the liberals in this country think that if they can *mainstream* Islam, it will become less strict and conservative. I believe they think that they can change it much like they’ve changed American Christianity. That’s why they give in to it so much.

Unfortunately, they don’t realize that in the hundreds of years it’s taken to make Christianity less *strict* (which by the way was done by it’s own members) the same amount of time has shown no changes in Islam, or even shows it becoming even more fanatical and hateful than 1000 years ago.

In between all my anger at Islam and those who support it, is pity for those people who support it thinking it will get better. They are in for a rude awakening.
#93

On March 28th, 2008 at 9:29 am, bolivar said:

My only wish is that McCain would get his head out of his ass and come out for REALITY and get off the Bush ROP meme. They are out to get us all unless we give in to their cult. Folks we are at war with a cult and the sooner we all realize that the better off we will be.
#94

On March 28th, 2008 at 9:50 am, James Felix said:

Given the way gays are viewed by islam, I don’t understand why the left supports it.

I’ve been puzzling over that for years. The people who are most outspoken against fighting these animals are “feminists”, gays, secularists / athiests and artists. In other words the short list of people Islamists most want to enslave or kill.
#95

On March 28th, 2008 at 10:12 am, zeroangel said:

James Felix:

I believe that is an unfair characterization of atheists. Some of the most outspoken atheists absolutely LOATHE Islamists.

Notably: Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris.

It is my contention that the “atheists” you are thinking of are merely atheists not because it is some conclusion or position they hold, but becuase it is just “counter-culture.”

Just food for thought…
#96

On March 28th, 2008 at 10:17 am, heroyalwhyness said:

Links to viewing/downloading FITNA:

download here: http://cdn.liveleak.com/16/media16/2008/Mar/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

Torrent: http://www.mininova.org/tor/1275560

RapidShare (English): http://rs34.rapidshare.com/files/102852229/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

FITNA via Google video

According to Klein Verzet, Geert Wilders is asking for financial support for FITNA’s distribution:
Most people don’t realize it, but reaching a global audience on the Internet is quite expensive. If you reach millions of people, you also have many millions of page hits and as a result many terabytes of bandwidth to buy from you’re hosting company.
That’s might not be something Wilders has realized when he made his initial plans for Fitna. He was after all planning a small film for a Dutch audience to be broad casted on Dutch national television. But after the Dutch government called for a ban and no Dutch broadcaster wanted to broadcast it, he decided to go the internet way. And as it now has become a global hype with a global audience, this means he now needs money to pay for the global distribution. The film, he today repeated in the media, will be released before the 1st of April and asks on his website http://www.geertwilders.nl for donations:

To our international friends:

Please support our struggle. The battle for the survival of freedom is not something we can do all by ourselves. Party for Freedom (PVV) is the only political party in Dutch Parliament that refuses government subsidy. Therefore, we are dependent on your support. We need your help urgently, as costs are mounting. Freedom isn’t free.
You can use the Paypal application under “DONEER” of you can make a contribution to:

Stichting Vrienden van de PVV (Foundation Friends of PVV), in The Hague, the Netherlands.
Bank account 67.04.72.344
IBAN: NL98 INGB 0670 4723 44 - BIC: INGBNL2A

It’s hard to say how much money he needs for the distribution for his film. It all depends on how many people are going to view it and how the Film will be distributed. But even if it’s possible to release Fitna with the help of video providers like Youtube or Liveleak, it will still cost quite some money only to have a website announcing it. After the release many millions will directly want to visit the website and thus the website needs expensive dedicated and high-performance hardware to serve those many millions of people. This will not come cheap.
If Geert Wilders doesn’t decide against advertisements on the Fitna website, he has however a good opportunity to cover a part of the cost. Adding some Adsense advertisements and/or Amazon affiliate advertisements is quite easy and will at least earn him thousand dollars per million visitors.
Cost will however rise astronomically if Fitna can’t be distributed with the help of video services like Youtube or Liveleak. To show a video stream of 15 minutes to millions of people will result in many hundreds of terabytes of traffic. Bumping Fitna’s release cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Let’s make sure Fitna will get released and be easily accessible to everybody. Please do a small donation in support of freedom of speech

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#97

On March 28th, 2008 at 10:26 am, RenaOConnor said:

The sad thing is the left and extreme right (they believe Islam is with them in their fight against Jews) will consider this just plain propaganda and not give it a the power it needs to waken an apathetic world.

I am glad Wilders made this. The MSM has “covered up” most of the atrocities committed by the Islamists such as the beheadings. I have long felt that if more people saw these things happening they won’t be so quick to defend them.

But its like the anecdote about the frog in boiling water, they came in our countries and caught us “relaxing” in the warm cozy water.

TFM
#98

On March 28th, 2008 at 10:59 am, LarryD said:

Given the way gays are viewed by islam, I don’t understand why the left supports it. You’d think they would be against islam as much as we are, but noooo. They defend it like it’s some under privileged social group.

Exactly. You have to understand the Socalist food chain, muslims are at the top, and can thus do anything to anyone else.

From the perspective of the socialist utopian, what matters more than Women’s rights or Gay Righs are the rights of a designated culture. The dogma of multiculturalism trumps the dogma of women’s superiority. This is probably because for the socialist utopian, might makes right and the needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the few–and the few better remember that fact, or else. In the socialist utopia, there is no room for individuality or personal preference; or tolerance for differences. You always must subsume yourself to the collective; and the bigger the collective, the more ~~power~~ victimization can be exploited.

For example, we know from experience that blacks, women and gays lose their cherished victim status if they dare to become Republicans; and, to a lesser extent, if they choose to be Christian (except for most Episcopalians, who have seen the secular light).

Being black trumps being a woman or gay (i.e., there is more “social justice” mileage to be squeezed out of the oppression of blacks, i.e., racism, than there is from the oppression of women (sexism) or even gays (homophobia). Just ask Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.
#99

On March 28th, 2008 at 11:36 am, emjem24 said:

In a short statement delivered both in Dutch and in English, Mr Balkende said the Government “regrets” that Wilders released his 17-minute movie on the internet, as he had been vowing to do.

“We believe it serves no purpose other than to offend,” he said.

“But feeling offended must never be used as an excuse for aggression and threats.”

The Prime Minister said the Government felt heartened “by the initial restrained reaction by Dutch Muslim organisations”.

In initial reactions, those organisations seemed relieved that Wilders’ film - which mixed violent images of terror attacks with Koranic texts - were not as bad as expected.

What a pathetic response by the Dutch government to Wilders’ film. What happened to the Netherlands? The contagion of liberal/socialist permissiveness and a live and let live attitude will destroy this country.

I visited the Netherlands 10 years ago and was absolutely shocked by their permissive approach toward pot. You can get marijuana at any coffee shop. Prostitution (as long as you get a license) is immediately accessible (along with pot) in Amsterdam where I visited. Being of Dutch ancestry, this is not the kind of “traditions” I’m proud of.

This statement really reveals how truly fearful the government is of Muslim extremists (especially the home grown variety). It would really be too bad to offend them… let’s protect their rights while vilifying a film the government may never have seen. What about the concern for ever more liberal immigration laws in both the Netherlands and the EU? Or would they rather cater to dissaffected minority groups at the expense of the native population at large? It would seem Muslim extremist appologism and being a cultural oasis for anything that feels good (as long as you don’t question it) are what the government of the Netherlands and even many Dutch people seem to be concerned about nowadays.
#100

On March 28th, 2008 at 11:48 am, nyc123me said:

#99 emjem24 : “What a pathetic response by the Dutch government to Wilders’ film. What happened to the Netherlands?”

I’ll tell you what happened : 1,000,000 muslim immigrants = 1,000,000 potential votes. Simple as that.
#101

On March 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Dimsdale said:

On March 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, ciceroskip said:

#75 “freedom go to hell”
That is the first time I saw that sign. I also got really pissed at the comments against democracy. This must be a pretty powerful movie because I don’t see any of the usual bullsh** from lgm

I was thinking precisely the same thing! Maybe he/she is warming up for some personal jihad action.

Come to think of it, has anyone seen lgm and Islamic Rage Boy in the same room (or effigy burning) at the same time?

Hmmmm…….
#102

On March 28th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, nyc123me said:

Wow. The photo mixup is sloppy, but there’s definitely a striking similarity between the two poses. Most unfortunate.

“The Danish Union of Journalists says it will sue Geert Wilders for copyright infringement for using a Danish cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad in his anti-Quran film. The union says it will file a lawsuit on behalf of Kurt Westergaard, the cartoonist who made the controversial drawing depicting Islam’s prophet wearing a turban shaped like a bomb.”

Does Westergaard know and approve of this action? They should be encouraging Wilders, not suing!

As Geert Wilders is a politician, do they have such a thing as ‘parliamentary privilege’ over there - meaning he can’t be sued if he is acting in his political capacity in releasing the film?
#103

On March 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, ddhinnyc said:

Everyone should watch this movie, especially George W. Bush, who still calls Islam a “great religion.”
#104

On March 28th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, Sergeant Tim said:

As this posted has existed here for more than a day, few will read why I posted Fitna on 911familiesforamerica.org.

Some things you struggle with…
#105

On March 28th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, corona said:

Livelead has caved.
#106

On March 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, nyc123me said:

And once again freedom bows out to threats of violence, which only encourages the muslim scum to do it more.
#107

On March 29th, 2008 at 8:41 am, garyt said:

To everyone out there and myself, I feel we are the modern day Winston Churchills warning the world of the perils of this evil. Unfortunately the world ignored the evils of Hitler until it was too late. Be damned if we ignore this hateful murderous warning from these heathen muslims.
#108

On April 12th, 2008 at 1:52 am, USpace said:

GO Mr. Wilders! Great job! Short and to the point, very powerful! I want my Fitna DVD too! Behold the multitudes of crawling and cowering Dhimmis.

It will be interesting to see how many of them will watch this. Eventually, most probably will. SPREAD THE WORD to the world everyone!

All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech, there can be no real freedom.

The Christians and Jews don’t riot when somebody makes fun of Christ or Jews. People must learn to be civilized. Rioting MUST not be tolerated.

That’ll be great if there’s no rioting, how very mature that would be. Geert Wilders is a hero telling the painful truth. Definitely show it in Denmark ASAP.
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submit to glorious life
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exposing violent crimes
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