Basra, Iraq, and Iran
Get your news about the war from sources who will tell it to you straight about the complex battlespace in Iraq:
Michael Yon speaks to Glenn Reynolds about the latest developments in Iraq.
Mohammed Fadhil in Iraq goes behind the bloodshed in Basra.
It’s all about Iran.
Max Boot on Maliki and Badr vs. Sadr.
The power of militias has been one of the most corrosive features of post-2003 Iraq. No prime minister, including Maliki, has shown much willingness or ability to take on the gunmen, because successive Iraqi governments have depended for their existence on political parties closely aligned with the militias, notably the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq and the Sadr trend. If Maliki is now getting serious about asserting the supremacy of the Iraqi state over the militias, that is a development to be cheered. I only hope he does not lose his nerve in this hour of crisis: if well-led, the Iraqi Security Forces have the power to defeat any militia on the battlefield.
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Diana West has hit this one dead on the mark many times:
Our troops took down Saddam Hussein’s regime. That was a good and just cause.
In Hussein’s place we have a democratically elected and democratically created Sharia state that is, by virtue of the Shiite majority now in power, a partner with Iran.
There is a clause in both the Afghani and Iraqi constitutions which says that no law may be passed that contradicts Islam - and of course Islam is the offical religion of each state. So, the folks our troops fought and died to set free had their chance to really set themselves free - and instead they chose to stick with Sharia, despite Condi’s pathetic parsing of the true situation.
What are we to do with this fine mess?
I don’t have the answers, but, as Diana has said so many times, a debate and a massive re-reckoning need to begin yesterday at the highest levels of our government and in the public view as to what we should now do to defend ourselves from further attacks, and to keep Sharia from making any further advances into our culture.
Europe is pretty well lost to Islamization. What now, America?
Michelle, Omar wrote the post, not Mohammed. See http://www.iraqthemodel.blogspot.com for verification.
It was PJ media’s error, not yours…or so it appears.
we must stay the course. otherwise we will be betraying those who have already fallen.
Kudos to MM for blogging on a subject that makes the Republican administration look pretty bad.
Lots of claims in the links MM provides are contradicted by other sources. For example, the threats watch source says al Sadr is out of it, while Reuters reports otherwise.
The overall picture that Iran is pulling he strings is contradicted by two facts. One is that (as everyone agrees) it was Maliki who started he current fighting. Yes, as the official government of Iraq, you would think he ought to attack independent militias. That’s what he did. Iran did not start this round, Maliki did.
The second is that Maliki is closer to Iran than the militias he’s attacking.
Before the invasion of Iraq, experts at the State Department and elsewhere told Bush that without a very strong occupation force the situation could degenerate into chaos. Neocons said the people at State were incompetent. What do they say now?
I have a feeling that Iran is about to be delivered a bloody nose. I’m not sure how we would time the strikes but that’s my take.
Michael’s done a great job and I’m going to pre-order book now.
hush up zorro… loose lips & all that.
These reports are all good ones. We in the USA face similar problems: how to defeat gangs in our large cities, how to arrest certain people without being charged as racist, how to stop terrorists at our borders and how to combat internal traitors.
I’m not sure ChiefRZ. It appears the Threatswatch link provided some incorrect information about al-Sadr role in this. And as Michael Yon pointed out it will get worse, which it appears it has in the last 24 hours.
Regardless, this is an ecouraging sign that Maliki and the Iraqi security is getting close to standing on it’s own 2 feet. I’m concerned that Maliki may just be in a tad bit over his head and the vacuum left by a possible defeat here will negate the gains we seen in the last 6 months.
LGM says that the Gop has no answers, but if you watch the democrat they don’t either. Ive waited four years to see what Kerry would do and now the current demos want to surrender to the Muslims and I wonder how liberal groups here in the USA would accept Muslim law.
I’m sure Field Marshall lgm has a secret plan how to make Iran forget its plans to screw with the security situation in Iraq and we can all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya. It is time to take out Sadr and break the back of his militia.
Breaking news from Fox (yep actually trying to watch it again), radical cleric order militants off the streets in Basrah is the headline. They showed footage of Sadr’s troops firing their guns in the air running around the way only muslims can a burning military vehicle.
Still say it’s time to take out Sadr once and for all while dismantling his militia, then take out the Mullahs and the Republican Guard in Iran with conventional long range air launched cruise missiles. It would not take much to get the local population in Iran to rise up and dismantle the current Government given a little help in taking the Mullah’s muscle away from them.
Threatswatch.org/Steve Schippert:
Boomer is right, if Iraq is to stand up on its own, then we have no choice but to deal with Iran on the most severe and harshest terms necessary. We could start by giving Israel the go-ahead in bombing Iran’s nuclear “power plant” sites, and proceeding from there with our own 12 step “intervention.” Perhaps giving Iran something to occupy its time within its own borders will keep it out of southern Iraq.
garyt said (#10):
You’ve said this before. Do you think this is a real possibility?
Far more likely is conservative Christian law: illegal contraception, jail for homosexuals, forced Protestant prayer in school, … . All these things have existed in the US in my lifetime.
From Reuters,
Translation: Maliki tried to neutralize the Mahdi army but failed. Sadr gets to keep control of Basra and Maliki will go home to the green zone.
Boomer said (#11):
Read up: Maliki has closer ties to Iran than Sadr. Iran has been calling for a stop to the fighting. As for “taking out Sadr”, even with the surge we don’t have the forces for that.
The sad thing about posts like these, is they reflect the ignorance of the left.
My friends, as Islam continues to surge exponentially in power under the very noses of liberal democracies, if…alright, WHEN sharia comes to power in certain areas of the West, there will be liberals who as they are carried off to the local mosque (most likely a converted church) for prayers, they will be shaking their fists at white, Protestant American leaders. Make no mistake about it.
Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq. This shouldn’t surprise anyone, and they are doing it to weaken the US, which is the same reason France, Germany Russia and China weren’t involved. Three of the four may think differently about it when sharia law and a mass of angry, 7th-Century minded Muslims take over their nations and expel their cultures to museums.
Rahowa.
Father knows best. It is something to wonder about that Brent Scowcroft and Bush I were so on the mark predicting the results of an invasion of Iraq, and Bush II so keen on invading. Not to mention the Brits ignoring their own history in Iraq.