#4, the M16-A2 version that I had during my active duty time was so sweet, I bulls eyed a man size target center mass at 500 meters eight out of ten times. I understand the M16-A4 is scope mountable. Dam fine weapons.

…….I aced (10 shots, 10 bullseyes) that center mass from 500 meters at Ewa Beach Rifle Range in O’Ahu, Hawaii back in 1989…during a Marine Division Match in the Islands Yup, just like you, no scope required. I have yet to get me an M-16 for home defense and sports shooting. I do have a 9 mm Beretta Cx4 Storm carbine for home defense, with a holographic sight on it. I can hit a 6 inch bullseye from 50 meters with its 9 mm round. Simply Sweet!
That Mexican cop not only has a training problem, but he also has the problem of currupt Mexican cops. Bad place he’s in.
Rio
Semper Fi!

If it’s good enough for our troops patrolling in Iraq, why wouldn’t it work for patrolling in Juarez?

One word: Discipline. The AR family of weapons (of which the m16 is a member) are excellent weapons, but they are messy eaters. In order to maintain a functioning weapon, it requires DISCIPLINE to keep the weapon clean. Once a day, minimum.

JHSII, #12

I also have to take issue with See-Dubya’s description of the 5.7mm FN pistol.

As for the 5.7mm FN pistols being called “matapolicias”, a colorful nickname does necessarily indicate an effective weapon, and it certainly wasn’t designed to kill cops as the reporter claims. The ATF guy says it’s in high demand precisely because of the colorful nickname.
The FN Five-seveN was designed as the counterpart to the FN P-90 PDW (personal defense weapon) so that they both use the same ammunition. The 5.7 mm bullet is specifically designed to penetrate body armor.

There is a war going on on our southern border. It’s time we start treating it as such.

The 5.7mm round, whether fired through the FN P90 or the Fn FiveSeveN pistol, leaves much to be desired, ballistically. Yes, it penetrates armor. However, the actual damage that it causes, whether going through armor, or straight into flesh, is neglible. An aquantince of mine is on the Miami-Dade SWAT team. Until recently, this team issued FN P90′s to their pointmen. However, after an incident where one SWAT officer put 25 rounds into a suspect and only stopped because the suspect yelled, “Stop, that hurts,”, they have since reissued their old M4s and MP5s.

I have a proposal for the Mexican government. You stop allowing your citizens to illegally come into our country, and we’ll stop the weapons from coming from ours. I think a wall will do the job nicely.

#4, the M16-A2 version that I had during my active duty time was so sweet, I bulls eyed a man size target center mass at 500 meters eight out of ten times. I understand the M16-A4 is scope mountable. Dam fine weapons.

Everyone should get one, and BZO theirs for the MS-13 types that like to home invade, and the moon god worshiping POS that are BZOing their weapons on their compounds.

Ballistically though the ak is similar to a 30-30 so the fact is a few hunting rifles and cops trained to keep their distance in a raid are all the Mexican cops need to clean up the cartels foot soldiers Eliot Ness style.

If cops here in the 30s stood up to gangsters armed with tommy guns and B.A.R.s then the Mexican cops should be able to pull their wait with whatever the government provides, asssuming the cops have the training to use the guns properly.

1) Be reasonably lightweight.
2) Have a fairly high capacity
3) Be reasonably reliable in the environment it will be used in
4) Fire a round large enough to incapacitate a target but small enough to be carried en masse.

There is much debate about #4 (5.56 vs. 7.62×51) in some circles, but I have yet to meet anyone who enjoyed getting hit with a 5.56. Otherwise, I would say the M-16 is a fine weapon for the cop’s purposes, and the Barrett is the LAST weapon they would want to carry.

especially powerful .50 BMG Barrett-style sniper rifles. A .50 BMG sniper rifle was used to kill a Juarez police commissioner in Juarez.

I would be scared too, this paticular sniper rifle can shoot thru an armored vehicle and bullet proof glass used in aircraft up to a mile away, take a look here If the cartels have this paticular weapon they can hit there target and never be detected, the victim and anyone around will hear nothing but a thump when it hits it’s intented target. Any law enforcment is out gunned with this deadly jewel.

Officer Cesar Quitana patrols a dangerous barrio in Juarez…“But this is what we use to defend ourselves.”

What does he want? A minigun?