Hillary wants Bush to boycott the Olympic opening ceremonies?
{A guest post by See-Dub}
Yeah, stopped clock, twice a day. I find myself in the uncomfortable position of siding with both Hillary and…gasp…Pelosi over W. (Ouch!) But in addition to its repression of Tibetan activists, and its crackdown on dissent in the media (both of which I wrote about here) China is also subsidizing violence in Darfur:
“How can world leaders watch the lighting of the Olympic torch – under the “one world, one dream” banner – without taking bolder action to extinguish the flames of violence still consuming the defenseless men, women and children of Darfur?” the groups said in a statement.
Conservatives aren’t great boycotters, and I tend to think that’s a good thing (for reasons described in this classic Ace of Spades post.) But for what it’s worth, I still try to buy American, and to buy non-ChiCom alternatives whenever I can. (I don’t get gas at Citgo, either.)
UPDATE: Dangit, apparently I’m agreeing with moonbat protesters in San Francisco now. I’m gonna get dismissed from the blog.
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I am all for playing hard ball with the Red Chinese.
Yeah, but it still smacks of Shrillary exploiting whomever she can to get the brass ring she covets… in a way i think you really can’t have it both ways, if you’re going to boycott the opening ceremony then you should probably boycott the whole shebang….and i wouldn’t want to ask that sacrifice of our athletes…
I guess Hillary is mad that she isn’t getting enough cash under the table from the chicoms as bill did…
Yeah, it’s exploitative of Hillary. But…she’s…right. Man, I never thought those words would escape my lips when talking about Hillary Clinton.
Boycott not only the Opening Ceremony, but the Games altogether.
China’s human rights’ abuses cannot go unaddressed or without real consequence.
Boycotting the opening ceremony and participating in the games, proves nothing and accomplishes nothing. A statement is made, and nothing else. It doesn’t convinces anybody of anything and takes away the one thing that the athletes look forward to…the pageantry. Tibet has been downtrodden for decades, and for political reasons, it now becomes an worldwide issue? After the games, unfortunately, the world will be back saying, “What’s Tibet?” And, the protesters will be back being anti-American.
I try to buy non-Chinese products as often as possible, too. But, virtually everything at Wal-Mart and Home Depot are Chinese. Whenever one buys something from Home Depot, it includes a password to go to their website to take a survey, and leave a comment. I always say I want more American made products and fewer Chinese. Either they aren’t listening, or I’m the only one saying that, because I still see too many Chinese products there.
I once worked for a company that installed audio and video systems. Churches were a big customer. A vendor came offering us some Chinese made equipment, saying we could sell it to Churches on a buget. I asked him why should Churches buy products made in a country where Christians are persecuted. I never got a satisfactory answer from him, but even our head Church salesman agreed with me.
The American people who I feel so sorry for are the athletics. They have trained for years and years to get to the Olympic’s. This crud is horrible for them. I can not imagine what their feeling’s are in this gosh horrible political mess is. I think they deserve more for what they trained years for.
L
It is strange for me to be on the same side as the (non-violent) protesters, moonbats, and France…but hey for the mean time more power to them.
Personally I hope we end up boycotting the Olympics and many nations do to. It is obscene that China is hosting them.
Well the athletes that are still amateurs I defintely feel sorry for put for the pro plays (as in basketball for example) I don’t. I remember the 1980 Olympics not knowing if that was the right call or not. I think Bush should defintely not go to the Olympics-just not quite sure yet about sending a team.
Pelosi???? She can’t really MEAN that, right? After Assad? And Hillary?? Doesn’t she want to sit down with Ahmadinnerjacket??
The reason you agree with them both is because they don’t actually mean it. They just want to hit Bush over the head with it if he goes.
For the record, I don’t think he should go, I just don’t expect him not to….
My take on it is this: What difference does it make to boycott the “opening ceremony”? Get some gumballs, and boycott the whole damn thing. If you are going to do it, go all the way. Yes China is inhumane, but the people have chosen to live that way. If they want to be communist go right ahead. (I feel bad for Tibet) Or they can overthrow their own government. When was the last time another country boycotted our Olympics because the Democrats wanted socialized medicine, or wanted to implement the fairness doctrine?
I don’t go to Citgo either. After spending a more than a year in Iraq, I decided to buy one FFV, and one Biodiesel vehicle. I also only use synthetic oil in both vehicles. Now, none of them get any of my money. That’s sticking it to the Man.
See-Dub you’re doing a damn good job!!!!!!
/s/
the guerilla
ROFL
There go our gun threads - dangit!
Where were all of the protests when China was being considered to host the Olympics? I may not be remembering correctly or the protests never made headlines, but when it appeared that China was going to get them, everyone was excited because China “deserved” them. My how times change.
I would hate to see athletes denied the chance to compete because of a boycott as happened in 80 and 84. But, I would love to see the opening ceremony boycotted. What would be even better is for tourists to NOT go at all to China for anything. China is counting on revenue from tourists and it would be great to deny them that. Let the athletes have the chance to compete though. They should arrive in time to prepare and compete in their events and then leave immediately afterwards.
Too bad Sydney doesn’t have enough time to be the alternate host and take the Olympics entirely away from China. The facilities are still in place, but the time isn’t there.
SEE DUBYA AGREED WITH PELOSI AND MOONBATS
HE’S A WITCH
BURN HIM!!!
(Do you feel better? :-p)
I actually agree in part with Pelosi but I don’t think a boycott will do much. Did it do much in 1980 regarding Afghanistan?
I agree with behiker. Whose brillant idea was it to give something as important as the Olympics to China anyway?
And why isn’t Goreacle over there harping on global warming. The athletes are all going to choke on their lovely air.
Why just the President why not the whole US Olympic team?
It is beyond silly that we or any other civilized country would send the best athletes in the world to participate in a communist country…
But with her other hand she’ll take any and all campaign contributions she can take from the Chinese government..
The Olympic Games are supposed to be the pinnacle of sport, not a political statement. Only twisted communist regimes like Cuba and North Korea think otherwise.
Jimmah Carter’s boycott of the 1980 Moscow games was an embarrassment. The Soviet Union had violated millions of people’s rights before invading Afghanistan. But they managed to bribe enough members of the IOC to get the games anyway.
Let the athletes who have trained their entire lives for this opportunity have their day in the sun. And don’t expect the politicos to fart around with half measures.
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
If you’re going to boycott, do it right. Boycott the entire Games.
I agree with tgillian about boycotting the entire thing. But make it clear it’s not because of Her Magesty Hillary.
see-dubya not to worry.
I agree also, and I thought the 1980 boycott was stupid. Ahhhh we grow. I don’t buy Chinese made things at all and it is a daunting exercise in futility let me tell ya. My brother in law goes to China all the time because his company does business there and it is a constant source of argument. But then, this isn’t new, I’m a true conservative…. McCainiacs remind me of my folly.
Stupid is as stupid does. Carter was a fool and democrats will follow with empty symbolic gestures.
“Faux News Alert”
Flash forward to 2012, London Olympics
Several protesters were lined up and shot for interfering with Sharia law and wearing western garb at some of the venues.
eyewitnesses confirm they were ex scotland yard officers.
Rumors of 5 buses being blown up are false it was only 3.
film at 11:00
Sure, you may side with Hillary, but perhaps your reasons are more principled than hers. See, I remember Clinton Inc. selling to the Chinese every weapons blueprint they could find in exchange for campaign cash.
Surely if Hillary was genuinely concerned about human rights violations in China, she would have stopped Bill from enabling the communists’ massive military buildup though the transfer of American technology.
Yeah, I have to agree with you on this one, see-dubya. Yikes, did I say that?
I agree with both Shrillary and Pelosi even though I also think they’re both using the Beijing Games for political “gamesmanship.” Ha, I bet ya didn’t think that was comin.’
China makes my skin crawl as does both their involvement in Darfur and larger Africa as well as the global economy. They have a terrible record of human rights abuses both in Tibet and their country at large. God, a political dissident got 3 years in prison, for (gag), talking bad about the Chinese Communist Party on the internet. Such a record makes one wonder why the IOC gave China the games at all.
This will seem very unsporting of me (and my husband thoroughly disagrees) but I have no interest in watching the whole propaganda ploy known as the Beijing Olympics prop up what the Chinese Communist Party hopes is an overly bright, happy image of their country. Unfortunately, it’s a false image, given the way they not only continue to spy on the US but use surrogates to steal military and business secrets. Why do that if you’re such an advanced, free-thinking country?
China is no forward-thinking/looking country. If they want to be taken seriously, lay off the human rights abuses and become a more transparent, law-abiding nation. I won’t save my breath.
A boycott of the opening ceremonies might be sufficient if the athletes feel free to express themselves during the games. However, Baron Coubertin, founder of the modern Olympics, would be grossed out over the manner in which his baby has become prostituted to political and commercial interests.
SeeDub,
You have done a good job with MM out. She did good having you post. Do you have a site I can go to? Sorry for my not knowing how this web thing works, I just started looking a few months ago and finally got the nerve to start posting on MM and HA. All at both, well most, have the same convictions I have. Thanks.
L
Let’s see, if Bush cancels, China will need someone to fill in. An ex-US President would be nice, and one with close ties to China would be even nicer. Given the sensitivity of the situation, the appearance fee will be much higher than usual.
I wonder if there is anyone who fits that BILL…
Are you sure her clock isn’t an annual one and today’s just her day?
All boycotting the 1980 Olympics accomplished was to allow the USSR to run up a ridiculous medal count.
Sorry, S/B see-dubya?
L
She should practice what she preaches — she made a trip to China in the 90s, when, except for a few trite comments, she basically supported the Chinese dictatorship. I don’t see why we even participate at all in the Olympics, with all the nutty & terrorist countries that are there.
Someone must have outbid the Chinese money flowing into the Clinton empire. Who might that have been? Can anyone [mentally] sniff out a money train to follow?
Maybe the Chinese see her as a loser this Fall, and the money tap dried up. Now, she wants this boycott. That would make sense.
One would think Al Goreba the Hut would be the one calling for the boycott.
All the whining going on about “climate change” China is the biggest polluter in the world.
Hearing Vin Scully describe what the players were talking about in a recent visit by the Dodgers there it makes you wonder even more why they were awarded the games in the first place.
smog, smog smog was topic one when they returned.
I feel a great disturbance in the Force. I also agree with Hitlery and Pelosi. Causing the Butchers of Beijing to lose face is always a good thing. I’m sure Hitlery and Pelosi are both receiving “donations” from the ChiComs, I can think of questionable donations, other than Run Around Hsu.
Bush does not need to boycott the opening ceremonies.
However, he should have something more important come up on his schedule.
One higher priority would be to meet with the Dalai Lama.
In addition, American athletes should not go because of the ongoing oppression of the Tibetans, Uyghurs, Falun Gong and support of genocide in Dafur by the current government of China.
No Americans should go to China for the games. Not Bush. Not the athletes. Not the public.
Now….
Who is going to ask Ted Turner if he will sponsor alternative games in Atlanta?
I’m the picture of ambivalence about China and the Olympics. As many of you have pointed out, the rights abuses are getting media attention because of the Olympics coverage. Perhaps, then, this is a good thing in some way– the world is again paying attention to China’s human rights record. Keeping China out of modernity hurts not only the government but the people. Despite the censorship and control, maybe the Chinese people will in some ways be more exposed to the modern world. As I said, ambivalent.
As for Hil., this should remind us all of her shady dealings with Chinese funding.
And Gore isn’t going to say anything– otherwise his kool-aid drinkers will be in danger of realizing that even IF global warming was a catastrophic man-made crisis, there ain’t nothing we can do about it in the face of China (and India)!
Oooo. Good one MM.
I agree but it will never happen. That’s because in the Left’s rose-colored eyeglasses, China is a huge polluter because we Americans demand so much cheap crap. Again, it comes back to “blame America.”
Bush can go but only if he bound and gagged. As for boycotting the Olympics themselves, I am beginning to have my doubts. China’s whole foreign policy is focused on threatening and humiliating America. Did Hill and the “Pill” (Pelosi) object then? No, of course not. So they had their chance and said nothing so forget it (or other words starting with “f”). Let the athletes go. It won’t make any difference either way.
opps, sorry see-dubya didnt see your update.
I wonder how Hillary felt about this last week before the Mark Penn problems or the “mistake” about the Ohio hospital healthcare story. Yeah, the president shouldn’t go - Nancy and Hillary say. Sorry See-dub. We didn’t pick the Olympic location - the Olympic Committee did that a few years ago.
The president should go so that
(1) We are fully represented at the Olympics
(2) He can show his full support of our olympic atheletes
(3) He can see firsthand how the host country handles outsiders and protesters
(4) The (hot air) wind can be taken out of opportunistic Democrats who will find something else to complain about next week (think: The pre-emptive Nancy Pelosi warning/strike on General Petraeus’ testimony) just to keep their names in the headlines.
Futhermore, if The President were really shrewd, he’d take Sen. McCain with him.
The Olympics should always rise above what is happening in the world. PERIOD.
Except of course the counterintelligence opportunities we will have, that we have NEVER had before.
Once again the Clinton team shows that it would rather pander to the left around the world than take advantage of a golden opportunity.
I dunno about ‘counterintelligence opportunities’, and really don’t care. I agree with others here that we should be boycotting the whole thing.
Ace’s post makes a great point. Let’s boycott Snickers, just for the heck of it. When the President of Snickers Company asks why we are doing it, we’ll simply say, “You KNOW why” and refuse to discuss it further.
Maybe that would only be funny to me though :).
I’m sorry…didn’t Mr. Hillary award China the title of “most favored nation” back when he was Prez?
And weren’t the conservatives at the time raising questions about how they could do this with all the human rights violations China commits and the media didn’t give a fig and nobody else addressed it, certinaly not the Libs.
And I also seem to recall that Hillary gave a speech to women in China where she never mentioned how they routinely abort their babies and some even kill them if it’s turns out they are girls and not boys for their “one baby” rule…
NOW THEY CARE?
Give me a break.
We should boycott the entire games. I’m still trying to figure out how the heck China got the games. China’s poor human rights record should have taken them out of the running to begin with.