Jamiel’s Law: The revolt against L.A.’s illegal alien sanctuary policy
Law-abiding citizens of all colors are uniting against the targeting of innocent black residents of Los Angeles by illegal alien gangs. The parents of murdered high school student Jamiel Shaw met with L.A. public officials yesterday, urging them to rescind the city’s notorious Special Order 40–one of the nation’s oldest illegal alien sanctuary laws. Enough is enough:
The parents of Jamiel Shaw Jr., a high school football star who was gunned down by a reputed gang member just blocks from his home, urged Los Angeles city leaders today to go after criminals who are in the country illegally.
Pedro Espinoza, 19, allegedly shot and killed the 17-year-old Los Angeles High School student on March 2 in the 2100 block of Fifth Avenue, not far from the Shaw family’s Arlington Heights home. According to police, the shooting occurred one day after Espinoza was released from county jail, where he was serving time for assault with a deadly weapon.
U.S. immigration officials believe Espinoza, a member of the 18th Street gang, may have been in the country illegally.
“We have a problem with the system. My son was murdered by someone that was here illegally. No matter how you look at it, that’s what happened,” Jamiel Shaw Sr. told reporters before entering the Los Angeles City Council chamber.
Authorities do not know why Espinoza was not detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement upon his release from the county jail.
Because, as I’ve reported so many times over the past several years, catch and release remains the standard operating procedure of the day.
Jamiel Shaw Sr. said checking the legal status of criminals is not an issue of racial profiling.
Exactly.
“We’re after the gang members who are here illegally, and when they’re released from jail, they’re out in the community,” he said.
“The guy who killed my son was in custody. He had a long prison record … and he was let out without any kind of hearing. He was let out into the community on a Saturday night with no supervision and within 24 hours, he had gotten another gun.”
The teen’s mother, Anita Shaw, said she plans to attend Espinoza’s arraignment hearing tomorrow. She was serving in Iraq when her son was slain, and will ship out Thursday for duty in Kuwait and Germany.
“I’m safer, somewhat, in Iraq than my son is safe on the streets of the United States. It doesn’t make sense,” she told the City Council.
Here are Jamiel’s parents confronting the council:
Walter Moore, an LA mayoral candidate, is crusading for Jamiel’s Law.
Go ahead, Geraldo. Call them racist. What are you going to do? Dare to threaten to spit on them?
Go ahead, La Raza. Call them hate-mongers. What are you going to do? Try and stop them from getting their message across?
Hey, Barack Obama. Where’s the honest dialogue about the racial crimes the Left doesn’t want to talk about? Will you march with the Shaw family–or with the illegal aliens again?
Innocent families of all races are sick and tired of the bloody consequences of open borders.
Enough is enough.
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Donations to help the family of Jamiel Shaw can be sent to:
The Foundation for Jamiel Shaw II
USC Federal Credit Union
1025 W. 34th Street
King Hall, 2nd Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90089
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If there is anything we can do to support this family, please let us know.
Enough is definitely enough.
We should change “enough is enough” to “this stops now”
Donations to help the family of Jamiel Shaw can be sent to:
The Foundation for Jamiel Shaw II
USC Federal Credit Union
1025 W. 34th Street
King Hall, 2nd Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90089
I missed that. Thanks.
This is a sad story.
Too bad it won’t be the last.
I wonder which parent will lose another son or daughter to the benefit of illegal alien protection.
Enough is enough.
Harry Truman said “The buck stops here.” Wonder how the city council and mayor will try to pass the buck on this? If they don’t accept responsibility for the results of their blind acceptance of Chief Gates’ ill-thought sanctuary order, then they deserve everything that’s coming to them. The order may have been initiated in 1979, but there have been many chances since then to rescind it, and it still stands.
They have “sown the wind” and are about the “reap the whirlwind.”
The illegal alien problem should not be a right or left issue, a black issue, a white issue. It is a right and wrong issue! We cannot afford to lose promising young black men, especially to illegal aliens! Enough is enough!
Did you notice in the last sentence of the TV clip, the reporter tries to defang Jamiel’s law? He said Pedro wasn’t in the immigration database in the first place, so Jamiel’s law wouldn’t have helped.
Real classy reporting.
(Pedro wasn’t in the database because he was able to pass himself off as a US citizen in previous brushes with the law.)
Not going to happen, illegal gangs are Mahmoud Villaraigosa’s Quds force and LA Blacks (and whites) might as well be Israelites.
RedRepub,
I cannot watch the video here at work; however, I am not surprised in the least bit. These people do not like to see US citizens locked away for their crimes. It makes perfect sense, if you follow their logic that the same would apply to illegals.
the story TV story tried to say that the Shaw’s efforts are for naught, because according to the reporter, Pedro wouldn’t have shown up in any databases because he’d been able to pass as American. well, in his previous brushes with the law, he would have had to provide proof of his citizen status. if he couldn’t provide a valid SS#, then he would have been in the databases, despite how well his english is.
but the subtle message that Jamiel’s Law wouldn’t work is pretty disgusting.
RedRpub, i’m glad i wasn’t the only person who caught that.
We’ve got the same problems here in Salinas, CA. Highest count of murders this year than any other and most all are gang related. This crap has to end. People that do not belong here must be deported. Screw racism or any other metaphor the ‘illegals and their supporters’ want to use. When you have unwanted pests you call the exterminator.
I don’t think much will come of this.LA will be a wasteland in a few years.The gangs and illegals are dug in so deep a JDAM couldn’t blast them out.Anything the LAPD has done in the last 30 years has been hammered or sued by any number of groups.Their authority is almost moot.The powers that be are happy though,they are getting their bucks.
If nothing can be done docflash can we at least cut out all of the Federal government funding of programs? Let’s start cracking down where we can…..in the pocketbook.
Excellent post Michelle. Calling out Geraldooo, La Raza and that featherweight running for president is exactly right. I hope they respond but I won’t hold my breath waiting.
Just the continuing saga on how the two political parties have been selling our country down the river. They don’t take responsibility for anything they do. It is time to take back our country.
This morning on KFI (LA) it was reported that the opponents to Jamiel’s Law stated that Hispanics would be unfairly targeted.
1. So What. Many legals here are part of the problem.
2. Jamiel’s father said “Check everybody. Problem solved.”
Yep.
What have the race hustlers, Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Wright, et al, said about this minor offence committed by a poor illegal alien gang member?
I have said it before, until the “typical black person” quits with the victimhood game and joins all Americans in this battle for our country against illegal immigration, Jamiel will not be the last innocent American murdered.
Breaks my heart(No sarcasm intended) that the perrenial victims can’t collectively rise as one (American citizen) to help end this anarchy in our country.
Senseless, tragic and totally unavoidable.
Thanks McCain and the rest of you elected morons for standing by and watching our country be destroyed.
Where ia Al Sharlaton?
Oh yea, it wasn’t a whitey that killed the kid.
Well, if there are 12 million Hispanics here illegally, what’s the problem?
If I were searching for the people who started the pie-throwing, I’d check Moe, Larry, and Curly first.
How many have to die before America wakes up to this disaster of illegal immigration? The 3 Stooges aren’t going to do a thing about this problem, it seems all they want to do is give amnesty to these idiots who refuse to respect our laws, our language and our way of life.
WOW, it’s about damn time!
J S Ragman,
That’s what I was trying to illuminate. There are many illegals here. Also, many of the legal ones don’t exactly help out the law. Ergo, no one really cares if they “feel” targeted. Most of us want something done. Period.
Jamiel’s father had it right: “Check everybody.”
SHoward
Sorry. I didn’t mean to give the impression that I was disagreeing with you. I am firmly behind any effort to rid ourselves of the illegal invaders. Jamiel’s Law sounds like a good idea, and only those in danger of being deported should find any fault with it.
If you go over to the Jamiel’s law website. There are several ways in which we can help this family.
Every single pompous windbag sorry excuses for senators need to ponder than statement. Especially the ones berating a general for something they have FAILED to get a handle on in their own country.
And just down the road 15 miles, another killing in the race war nobody wants to talk about: Hispanic Arrested in Bus Shooting
JS-
No worries at all. I just wanted to elaborate a little more on it. I wanted to tell everyone else that even the Hispanics here legally actually make the problem worse — Unless they are second generation. Many of those born and raised here by legal parents want the illegals out, too.
Your Pie-throwing analogy was actually a pretty good tip-off that we were on the same side.
Have a good Wednesday!
What to do with these sanctuary cities? Well how about the cities around these sanctuaries doing something? How about the surrounding cities instituting a policy with which they can take an illegal that they have come across and book em, drive em to the sanctuary city limits, warn them not to come back and let them go. Then the next time they are caught bill the sanctuary city for all the costs related with prosecuting these people. Eventually these sanctuary cities will collapse under the weight of illegal immigration and the heavy costs related to it. Make these cities carry their own sack of problems and then we will start seeing illegal and sub standard legal immigration dealt with.
#31 How about the federal governement take away their funding for violating federal law by being a sanctuary city!
You have to look at if from the perspective of politicians. Danger to them is the possibility of not getting re-elected, and every vote counts, including the Hispanic bloc.
From the LA media to the LA mayor and everywhere in between, corruption and illegality is their game.
Do we need to ban Hispanics from reporting on illegals?
I’m thoroughly pissed!
#32. Yes, that too. But we see that they won’t do it. And if they do deport them they come right back. The idea is to empower people at the local level. It’s a war and some cities/officials are on the illegal’s side. Hit them in the pocketbook, take away their wine and cheese, that’s the only thing these leftists understand.
#34 so agreed. I always get emails from the minute men to volunteer to come to the border but, I’m afraid I would I would get an uzi and take care of it before they cross!
Does anybody have the audio from Doug Macyntyre’s (MS) radio show today? Some of the most powerful words I’ve heard.
tempting, beemer, tempting.
My donation is in the mail.
I would sue the city, and whoever signed and upheld Special Order 40. Next I would sue the killer in a civil suit for whatever I could get even his prison money. Have the judge to order the killer to write out a check everyday for a certain amount, even if it is $.01 so that this person will never forget the person’s name he killed and why he is where he is.
Even if he has to do it for the rest of his life.
Honorable John Boehner, M.C.
Republican Leader
320 First Street, SE
Washington, D.C. 20003
Dear Sir,
Many thanks for sending me the request for lifetime membership to the NRCC along with the $250 special voucher. It was an honor to hear you speak at the luncheon in 2006 when I attended the NRCC Presidential Dinner, but I was sadly not impressed with Senator John McCain’s appearance there. I am sure you remember the direction my fellow Republicans wanted to take this party and, again, sadly our leaders didn’t listen and decided to go alone and push for amnesty.
Sir, we are at war with these illegal invaders and you dumb as$es don’t seem to give a sh@t. Come to Torrance, Ca. to view it for yourself. Hell just crack a news paper or get one of your aides to open up a website every now and then and you will figure out that these invaders are at war with us.
John, I hate to be crass and rude to you but it is time that I do so, in order for your colleges to receive that swift kick in the as$ you deserve to give them. It is time, John.
(thanks to a fellow poster at Michelle Malkin’s site for reminding me of this)
It is time for you to demand that John McCain (McInsane) drop his latino outreach director Juan Hernandez, the amnesty loving racist as$hole. It is time you demand that all federal funding to sanctuary cities, counties and states be immediately stopped. It is time that we cut off the magnet that brings the scum of Mexico here to steal from our homes and kill our children (See Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17 year old gunned down by an illegal invader)
Sir, I do not mind immigrants one bit. In fact, I think our great Nation is better for having a diverse culture. It’s the illegal invaders that I can no longer tolerate. This election cycle, you can put me down for a big goose egg. You can bet your a$$ that I will be writing in Newt Gingrich for President. John McCain is a has been. He is a traitor to our sovereignty! He is the problem and not the solution.
Sir, I’ve sent emails and letters and called you, Congressman Tom Cole, and others, but never receive a response. I do keep getting request to send more donations, though. One of these times you idiots might get a clue. I’m not sure if it’s a problem with your minions not passing these up the line or if you’ve informed your peons to file 13 anything regarding amnesty. Either way you are being failed in not viewing/hearing the voice of the people.
You see sir, you have failed our party. I truly like you too. So I’ll give you a piece of free advice: With your deep voice, you should get a career in Radio and give up politics. Ohio will thank you for it. Or since you love the Mexican people so much, why don’t you go down to Mexico and become a human trafficker? (Oops, forgot, you’re doing that from Washington.)
I have played the political games before and know how politicians talk. For instance, McCain says that he has heard us and learned his mistake by getting into bed with Senator Lifeguard Kennedy. He further goes on to say that he will secure the border first. What he fails to let us know is that his 2nd plan is amnesty.
So let me give your dumb a$$ a test. Please take the term Illegal Alien and replace it with Al Qaeda. For example, “Mr. Ansell, we can’t possibly deport 12-20 million Illegal Aliens” will now turn into “Mr. Ansell, we can’t possibly deport 12-20 million Al Qaeda”.
See how stupid you guys look? FIX THE DAMN PROBLEM. DEPORT THE INVADERS.
Best regards,
John L. Ansell
Just remember; when you write your check to the IRS and/or your state dept., please write in the memo section;
Fees for Illegal Aliens.
#9 RedRepublican:
You took the words right out of my mouth. The media in LA twist everything to further the reconquista mindset.
Note: the no borders policy is being taught in CA schools.
Each CA university (taxpayer funded) has an Hispanic Studies Center “run” by the likes of La Raza/ MALDF and et.al.
John Ansel thanks for your excellent post #41. I find myself reading the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution more and more and or Federal Government continues to fail us. This is another atrocity that continues to jack my jaw on what has become a daily basis I find myself becoming a very angry middle aged man that has just about had it with the Federal, State, and Local Governments failure to defend our nation’s sovereignty by putting a halt to the open invasion of my country. A decent kid with a bright future was killed for being an American by a lowlife illegal invader that should not be here in the first place. I fear a firestorm is coming very soon unless our political overlords do something to stop this invasion and start deporting all of those invaders that do not belong in our country.
Am I the only who has noticed the conspicuous LACK of posting (except, perhaps, for one by a possible part-time affiliated member) by our ususally dependable buffoon-relief team of Trolls on this thread, as well as on the thread on W. Va. Senator (in the etymological sense of the word), and on the thread discussing the attack on free speech in Canada?
Where are they?
Why are they so silent?
…W. Va. Senator…Byrd.
Also, …usually….
Apologies.
Boomer #44, I’m in the middle of this battle. Tortilla X Flats, 18 street gang, East Side Torrance Gang, on and on with these latino gangs. It’s time we grab the torches and pitch folks and head to our political leaders’ homes. It’s time we take back America from the globalist.
This is great news and finally someone’s family has not kowtowed to pc’ism and is taking the fight to city…I did not see this kind of response in NJ…good for his family…anger is what they have and in that a drive to make what is wrong…right.
Some of us remember the illegal alien problem that France had in the 1940’s - that problem got resolved so don’t tell me it cannot be done, it just takes determination. It is time to ignore pandering.
#49 not familiar please expand
Sounds like a Subculture thing. How many blacks are allowed 10’s if not a hundred crimes against society before being tried for being felons and who gives a hoot against a court system that allows this. Next, where are the Black Panthers, or what ever their current aka, or are they just capable of making threats and disparagements against other than the brother (code for their hate targets). And as for a Shaw what ever fund, where is Al Sharpton and how about a Jena 6 caliber march that raised 500k for those brothers. Where’s all the black racism we see everyday is Jeremiah Wright hate America church.
Sorry folks I don’t have a dog in this fight.
How about going after gang members whether they are legal or illegal? This is open warfare on our societal structure. They should be hunted down and shot like we would a rabid dog. Whadda think Geraldo?
bit_boy,
It’s unfortunate that you see this fight in terms of black and white or black versus hispanic. Regardless of Shaw’s skin color - his death was senseless. It was a direct result of California’s sanctuary laws and the even bigger problem with illegal aliens. You don’t have a dog in this fight? Really??
30 - as I recall, there are quite a few things that bit-boy doesn’t have a dog in. What he fails to realize is that EVERY citizen of the United States, regardless of color, race, national origin, etc., has a very big dog in this fight.
Murder is murder, no matter who commits it - but the fact that an illegal alien might have committed it(and, according to the story, it hasn’t been conclusively proved that the murderer is an illegal alien) makes it all the more abhorrent. If it proves out that he is in the country illegally, and that he has that many priors, then I hope they have a spot picked out for him up here in San Quentin on death row. If he’s returned to Mexico, how long do you think it’ll be before he’s back here with another gun in his hand?
In any case, get him permanently off the streets.
We all have dogs in this fight, especially if we have children.
Our public schools in California have serious illegal gang problems in middle school and jr. high! If that isn’t “having a dog in the fight” I don’t know what is.
cpodug,
Thanks. I was not aware of bit-boy’s past. I find that statement of not having a dog in this fight to be downright frightening…
#45 Granite,
I guess if they don’t get to expound on the virtues of their vast education or exorbitant salary, they just don’t have anything to say. Remember, the only way they feel good is by trying to make you feel bad about yourself.
Thank you MM, for the article, loved the slap back at the racist Geraldo and LaRaza.
Looks like more and more like people are getting upset about the illegals and their law breaking. I sense violence in a lot of posts…as I’ve said before, it will happen, sooner than you think and it will be ugly.
I understand the L.A. sanctuary policy was initiated to encourage the illegals to report crime without fear of being singled out…HUH? What does that mean? If their illegal should they not be singled out as illegal aliens? Now it’s got so a lot of American citizens are afraid to call the police because we don’t know how their going to react. Will they be politically correct or will they up hold the laws? This will result in the push for actions by the citizens…not knowing if you can trust your law enforcement officers to do the right thing.
So why don’t the Mighty Marching Lefties ever protest inner-city violence?
Villarigosa will never let the Special order 40 be struck down, if he has that power. This is a terrible tragedy I hope the victims family and all you supporters can change the situation. Luckily other places in the USA have some sane people making decisions, like this small town in Mass:
John Ansell, excellent letter to the congress traitor. May I plagiarise? I would like to send this to rep Pickering, sen Wicker and sen Cochran.
I sent a check into the NRCC, and wrote in the pay to the order of, “Republican who says no mas”.
In the amount I wrote “not one peso for you traitors”. For my signature I emblazoned with “VOID this Check”, then I cut the the bar code off the bottom of the check. I haven’t gotten a response back.
Can we detain him after his stint in the gas chamber?
AlohaGuy,
What are you smoking? After the gas chamber?
Bush is going to make sure this guy gets his rights in accordance with Mexican law.
He’s too busy with his yacht. You know, the one “the man” kept him from being able to afford here in the U.S., after preventing him from going to Harvard. Wait, or was that encouraging him to go to Harvard because he’s a minority? It’s so confusing. Anyway, the race-baiters’ chickens are coming home to roost. Please, can we all agree that we need to protect all citizens, no matter their color?
I predict we will not see the LA Mayor until the heat is off here. Perhaps he will fade back into the land he really cares about, Mexico, for a few weeks. Maybe he can cheat on his wife successfully down there? Oh, wait, it probably wouldn’t be as much fun for him since she’s divorcing his A#$.
AlohaGuy,
I am in complete agreement.
I’m sorry Rooster, I lost my head. You’re right of course. I even wondered to myself if California even has a gas chamber anymore, or if it’s part of the Universal Studios tour.
But - but - but that would mean we all have to have a dog in this fight!
/sarc
Exactly! (And hey, you were quoted in the NY Times - are congratulations or condoloences in order?
Thanks 30 pcs of silver #53, #56 and cpodug #54 for your comments about my post. Yes I do have a history of post you may not find to your likeism but I find your comments colored and self serving. Good luck with your personal agenda and manipulation of this forum. You obviously do not read very well for comprehension. But you are what you are.
I’ve never really paid much attention to your posts. It was pointed out to me that you have a checkered past here. But that’s your issue.
With respect to the rest of your post. WHATEVER!
Every citizen has a dog in this fight. They attack one of us, they attack all of us.
AlohaGuy (#69) - sorry - I don’t have any fish to wrap today, so I wouldn’t know. If anything, I was probably (1) misquoted, (2) taken out of context, or (3) ridiculed. No matter. The only good thing the Slimes has are its puzzle books, which my 85-year old mother dearly loves, and I send to her periodically(the large print editions). Other than that, I don’t subscribe or read paper rags at all.
I’ve re-read bit-boy’s comment earlier and don’t understand where he’s coming from…
Apparently, he thinks that people are not upset at the system that allows blacks ( or ANY color ) criminals to commit crimes over and over again without more serious penalties?
My answer - read this website more often
Apparently he’s upset that the Black Panthers aren’t rallying or Sharpton’s not marching?
My answer - not our problem
What you have here, bit-boy, is a gathering of a diverse group of citizens on this site who ARE upset about this issue and this crime.
I suggest you call the Rev. Al or contact the Panther’s to find the answers you seek.
We express our regret and condemnation of the system, but more importantly, the criminal - who in this case is an illegal alien.
On April 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, rooster said,
I’d be proud to have you use that letter. Please go ahead.
Well the gas chamber is in San Quentin and San Quentin is in San Francisco, brilliant! Yes we have a death penalty but we don’t shall we say, execute it. We used to have Alcatraz here too, we still do, sort of, you can take the three hour tour. I have heard they even have ex inmates as guides, how historically quaint. If it’s true I wouldn’t advise taking the tour alone. As for myself I think we could substantially cut down violent crime by having public hangings in certain circumstances or periodically whatever the case may be.
Journey to the gurney
For the illegal and his attorney
I disagree with you on this one. Until the black community comes out strongly against illegal immigration nothing will change.
People aren’t allowed to use Barracks middle name, or ask him about his racist reverend. The “typical black person” must demand illegal immigration stop, not just because of this innocent young man. Because it is destroying our country and nothing seems to matter in this country unless it invovles a black victim demanding justice.
My theory again; the “typical black person”, Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Wright, etc., do not want illegal immigration to stop. They want it to continue so they are ensured to maintain the super minority status in our country. This will enable them to claim victimhood in perpetuity.
I apologize to the “typical black person” that does not fit into this stereotype, you know the rare one that identifies himself/herself as an American.
bit_boy,
I didn’t think I had much of a dog in the fight either. Then I moved out here.
Let me tell you,
WE ALL have a dog in this fight.
30 pcs:
We are all in this fight together.
Keep on keeping on.
” the “typical black person”, Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Wright, etc.”
I’ve met and known quite a few African-Americans….
They were nothing like these clowns… so calling these knobs “typical” may be stretching it
If an honest politician like Barrack Hussein Obama can use this type of language it must be right and honorable.
How many of the African-Americans have you met that are actually from Africa?
I think you missed my sarcasm and anger at our hyphenated country.
John Ansell,11:49 am
Great letter John…I would like to see Michelle turn your letter into a petition (without any edits) and have the entire conservative blogosphere sign it and send it to the RNC and both houses of Congress with a special cc: to McCain.
I don’t know why something like that hasn’t been done already. Look at the effect the blogs and talk radio had on the Amnesty Bill.
This is exactly what you get with liberal policies. Hillary wants a moratorium until the impact of the fence can be reviewed by radical enviros. Barack wants a repeal of the fence legislation. Yet 90 percent of blacks voted for Barack before him they voted Clinton. That’s why I say liberal policies are childlike. They may believe they have the best of intentions but like a child’s view of the world it isn’t always what they think it is and it doesn’t always work out the way they want it to. The difference between a liberal and a child is a child usually learns, unless the child has the mind of a liberal of course. The dems are comprised of so many conflicting sub groups if left to their own devices they would descend in to anarchy. They cant make any decision there is always a conflict so nothing gets done or worse the things that do get done only speed your eventual demise. There are consequences when free people don’t think things through. That’s the number one peril to free people, themselves. Its high time, well past high time that Americans start to understand this fact.
No action on this until this? Why not?
Enforcing our borders is not a race issue or discriminatory.
When we do not enforce the law, we get lawlessness and people die. When we did not enforce our border laws, we created law enforcement apathy in communities that rippled across our nation, divided us, and effected the lives of all.
Jamal Shaw’s murder is the sad and unnecessary price of seeking only blindness in the docket in the aftermath. What we knowingly failed to do, as a nation, to prevent his murder will forever be the greatest injustice.
I apologize to the Shaw family for misspelling Jamiel’s first name. I erred and meant no disrespect.
Maxine Waters…where are you when we need you …….?
African Americans are just plain stupid for always voting Democrat. Racist Obama won’t help them either, although he will jump on some newly formed bandwagon in the next few months to con the bottom dwellers. The only thing Obama can change is his rhetoric.
Has anyone noticed that as far as people on the left are concerned “silence is golden?” This did not have to happen to Jamiel. This kid had a bright, productive future unlike the criminal thug who killed him. LA is a cesspool and they’re AFRAID of cleaning it up. Not only is the city of LA scared of confronting illegal immigration but so is its police force.
How can the LA mayor and police chief look this family in the face after what they allowed to happen? They are as equally culpable as DC for the chaos and anarchy that illegal immigrants have brought to our country. Illegal immigrants aren’t just law-abiding, hard-working folks trying to support their families, they are also criminals, identity thieves, social entitlement leeches, and scammers.
This is the kind of preventable tragedy that sanctuary cities have wrought on their local populations. Why do cities like LA care so much about illegals yet so little about their own American citizens?
American citizens across the board need to STOP making excuses for this type of assault on our own people.
I don’t care what color his skin was, he was an American killed by an illegal criminal. Ufortunately, he won’t be the last if people keep pushing this PC, open borders mentality.
What was more insulting was that the City Council didn’t put the meeting on the agenda, and they claimed that they couldn’t comment over 50 words because of law. They don’t want to address the issue.
On April 9th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, orlandocajun said,
Now that would be funny. The best part about sending the letter out, I didn’t even have to use a stamp. They paid for the postage.
The city Council is more worried about losing the Hispanic vote, than a murder. Jackson and Sharpton will always ask, “What’s in it for me and keeping the white/black divide?”, before doing anything. Hispanic gangs are in control, and the so-called politicians are worried more about their power and wallets than anything else. Until there is a strong demonstration against gangs, nothing will happen. And, this murderer, if deported, with the help of his gang, will be back across the border, before the sun rises the next day.
Obama’s position on this is……..?
At the very same meeting, the idiot council member named Dennis Zine was trying to get a measure passed to project celebrities from paparazzi. As for good kids being protected from illegal alien terrorists, he doesn’t give a damn.
Bastard.
Here’s the link to an article about it.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/watercooler/hot_topics_article.aspx?storyid=143872
granite trolling for trolls…nice and ironic. Very rich.
Outrage regarding specific incidents aside, the whole “immigration issue” (legal or illegal) is about big business and its desire for cheap labor vs. the populist notions being articulated on boards such as this one. This is not a liberal vs. conservative issue, and until we get our arms around where the power really lies on this issue, all the talk about fences and enforcement, etc. will continue to be just that…talk. One thing that absolutely has to happen immediately is for all illegal or legal aliens with criminal records to be rounded up and sent home…all of them.
And the gunman appeared in court to day. Pleads not guilty
Here you have a black family whose future was destroyed by an illegal. Here you have an American city totally run by pandering Democrats.
I find it amazing that black people vote 9 to 1 for Democrats in election after election. It is insanity to vote this way and expect a different result. Watch for this to be buried as soon as possible under a blizzard of emotional garbage.
“…trolling for trolls…nice and ironic. Very rich.”
Wow, you created a straw man out of that!
Wondering why Trolls have not posted at certain threads is trolling?
A definition of trolling, from Dictionary.com, that does NOT pertain to fishing:
“(Slang) To patrol (an area) in search for someone or something.”
Gotta say, getting TO actively looking (patrolling in search of) for something(someone?), FROM noticing the absence of a remark by that something(someone?) (sort of like noticing that the dog that did NOT bark in the night, in the Sherlock Holmes story) is quite a magic trick… truly something from nothing.
Talk about pretzle logic.
Waiting for frustrated, sputtering, less-than-complimentary, less-than-logical, even more unrelated response in 10,…9,…8,…7….
But, I have far more important things that to take up my time right now.
Perhaps we’ll see you at another thread, where you’ll provide a much appreciated yuck or three.
Could you elaborate on this thought? Because I’m used to addressing problems in terms of root causes and symptoms, your terminology is foreign (no pun intended) to me.
For those that want to listen to Jamiel’s Parents. They will be on Doug McIntyre’s show in the morning. I don’t know what time they are on though I think it might be the 8 O’Clock hour but not sure.
granite, you’re nowhere near as clever as you think you are, but you are smart enough to understand exactly what I meant by “trolling for trolls” in light of your ongoing childish baiting of lgm and Rusty.
Got nothin’ else for ya brah, but I do have a request. Do us all a favor and use that big doctor brain of yours to figure out to use the block quote feature.
His father was also on John and Ken yesterday and they replayed the interview this afternoon. I know they are not going to let up on this one. They are relentless.
Hearing his father was just heart breaking.
I am encouraged by the tactics that Bush has used in the immigrant problem. He has made our economy so bad that the Mexicans are not coming now. That according to the latest extimates from border patrol.
The little brother too. He wants to learn how to build a time machine so he can go back and save his brother. Damn them Illegals.
A political alliance of black and white against the illegals would be formidable and just might get the job done. Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The quick answer is that urban black people hate white people to such a degree they will never work with them. The longer answer is that neither black political leadership nor white political leadership is interested in supporting secure borders. Both are committed to the belief that large numbers of Hispanics will break the current political impasse and allow one party or the other to attain majority status for all time. Since the democrats are masters at tactics their victory is not in doubt.
That large number of innocent blacks will suffer because of the policies of the political elites bothers the democrats not at all. That large number of whites will suffer is a yawner to both sides. I wish it weren’t true, but pigs will be flying over the southern “border” before there is enforcement and deportation on a significant scale.
Saw Anita Shaw on the O’Reilly Factor a short while ago. A good woman, a good mother, and yet another victin of open border policy. It was said during the report that she is in the service and returning to Iraq tomorrow. I may be wrong, but I think that given the circumstances she would have little problem getting out of her redeployment or out of the service altogether. It speaks volumes about her character.
She’s be safer being redeployed because nobody from the US wants to pick lettuce for $50 an hour.
Here is another revealing video from yesterday’s LA City Council meeting.
Watch Councilman Richard Alarcon utilize a page straight from the Geraldo Rivera open borders playbook.
Enough is Enough.
Vote Walter Moore for LA Mayor in 2009.
Beenthere … That is why we need a return to the Federalist system where people are not judged by color but by ability. Unfortunately, the sad truth is that the liberals/progressives/socialists have created a fully dependent subculture rather than integrating people into a standard culture of the people, by the people and for the people. No matter what color, creed, race or religion people may be, once they have become accustomed to the government entitlement teat, it will become very difficult for them to be weaned.
Traditionally, conservative values have done more to integrate people into a common society. This allows all of us to work together for a common goal and not divide and separate ourselves as peoples for the sole benefit of politicians and a select few others in a position to take advantage of such circumstances. What we are seeing is a very effective and very deadly game of divide and conquer being played out and We the People are the ones being divided and conquered.
Unfortunately, I do not see a great formation of “Americans” of any ilk coming together to make this happen. Whether it will or not depends on far too many factors to be able to make an accurate prediction. Whether it can or cannot be done without resorting to the tactics outlined in the Declaration of Independence is also questionable.
Equally unfortunate is that like many other races/religions/creeds etc … the politicians have also become a subculture completely separate and without regard to We the People. Unless we can discover common ground to unite us as a nation again, I fear that the Great American Experiment has already written its final chapters.
“FAREWELL! A LONG FAREWELL TO ALL MY GREATNESS.”
More on topic, my prayers will be with the family of this man for whatever that is worth.
The Mexican mayor and his gabacho stooge Chief Bratton could care less about the blacks or whites. They care about the Mexicans, and Bratton has already told us to leave if we don’t like it.
It’s a race war, just the way they like it. Most of the blacks have already left. The whites are leaving now, and 65% of the babies born in California hospitals are Mexican.
Take a close look and this murder, like many others, comes straignt fromt he White House. Time and again, White House has supported illegals, often at the cost of American citizens, who entrusted their welfare in this corrupt and timid sell-out. Americans made this spoilt, AWOL brat the custodian of their secuity. Taking a cue, states issues driver licenses without any checks and cities turned into ’sanctuary cities’ for criminals. Any surprise that innocent blood flows in the streets of these sanctuary cities? And what action does White House take? Imprison border-patrol agents Ramos & Campeon. What side of America is white White House on? Then again, Americans have only themselves to blame for putting a corrupt, timid spoilt rich brat in White House.
Bhishma, I might come as a surprise to you, but the White House is not the seat of government and Bush is not our dictator. A whole lot of blame can be placed on Congress and SCOTUS too. Let’s say that Bush decided to really clamp down on illegals. How far do you think it will go, with the Congress and local city/state governments today? Pelosi and Reid, et al, will slam the door on it real fast. Shouts of racism and “hate-mongering” will ring through the halls, while bills fly through voting to stop him. There would be open defiance in sanctuary cities. Somehow, people think that whatever the WH says, goes…not in this government. We have a system of checks and balances, and there would be a whole lot of “checks” coming out as laws. Oh, Bush could give a nice speech, but that will be how far it gets. The House will make sure no money is allocated, backed up by the Senate. Let’s be realistic here.
Great question? When it comes time to show outrage over something like this, they are strangely quiet. Congratulate Michelle? Strangely quiet. Wish Michelle well when she is sick? Strangely quiet.
If he had not “trolled for trolls”, I would have. So, dakine is going after granite now. I feel so abused.
To answer the question; yes, I noticed.
I saw Mrs. Shaw’s interview last night and all I can say is how sorry I am for her family’s tremendous loss.
I would also like to point out and how needless and preventable that loss was, had the immigration laws - already on the books - been enforced!
My very best to this brave female soldier and her mission in Iraq.
Minghui Yu, 24, was killed last Friday night when a 14-year-old boy, apparently on a whim, attacked Yu as he was heading to his Morningside Heights apartment, police sources said.
Yu fought back, then ran off — only to be hit by a Jeep. He died later that night.
The teen, who is from the Bronx, has been charged with manslaughter and is due back in Family Court Wednesday.
The suspect showed no remorse after his arrests, a detective testified in Family Court, but two of his aunts said that the death was an accident caused by “child’s play” and that he is indeed sorry for what happened.
A judge assigned the boy lawyers and decided he would be tried as a juvenile offender in Family Court.
As the suspect was being held inside the 26th Precinct, a throng of photographers gathered outside awaiting his transfer. His mother also waited outside, telling photographers to leave him alone and that Yu’s death was not his intention. “He’s only 14! He’s only 14!” she shouted.
He’s not a full growed criminal.
#116 On-my-soap-box:
Thanks, soap.
Keep on keeping on.
As for our Troll who repeatedly employs a lame, affected mode of address; and who remarkably manages to cram several (4-5, by my count) insults into two sentences…if I did not have better manners, I would advise him to take his remarks and blow them out one of his bodily orifices.