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1. #1
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, BrianNY said:

   Does this include malt liqueur?
   I smell a wedge issue here.

2. #2
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, Romeo13 said:

   Pure class warfare…

   Its like the Lotto… which I consider a tax on the stupid…

   You don’t see rich people playing the Lottery… its the poor or middle class who don’t understand you have MUCH better odds in Vegas, than an effective ROI for lottery tickets.

3. #3
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, graysonret said:

   You think increasing the tax on beer is going to stop underage drinkers? California, you are you kidding? They’re going to drink anyway. Let’s be real. The reason for the tax is because your budget is way overboard, and you all need money fast. Being typical liberals, you don’t look at cutting expenses, you look at increasing taxes. Calfornians are going to buckle under your taxes, and either revolt or leave the state…the smart ones that is. The ones on your welfare will stay, of course…sapping more money out of the state each year.

4. #4
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, DougT said:

   The references to corporate profits of Anheuser-Busch and Molson are laughable. Those are huge multis with a wide variety of worldwide revenue streams. These profits are not coming from CA alone.

   The real losers, should this inanity succeed in passing, would be the hundreds of small and micro breweries in the state. Some of the best beer in the world is produced in CA. Talk about a chilling effect on growth for these relatively tiny companies.

   There must be some other real vices that Assemblyman Beall could target, but I think see-dubya is on the correct track. This guy is trying to settle a campaign contribution debt with the wine industry.

5. #5
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, BrianNY said:

   When libs smell a shakedown, they just put a “big” before their victim:

   1. Big-Oil
   2. Big-Pharma
   3. Big-Beer?

6. #6
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Grey Fox said:

   Wow, this is become the booze plog.

   I guess this is reason 11,751 not to live in California.

7. #7
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Grey Fox said:

   become = becoming.

8. #8
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

   Another tax-grabbing GD democrat!

9. #9
   On April 12th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, DesertLover said:

   This will continue until the manufacturers of the products being singled out, such as beer in this case, refuse to distribute their product in California … we talk about boycotting companies that do outrageous things … the companies have the same right to refuse to sell their product any place they are being discriminated against …

   Imagine for a minute that they get this passed and into law … and then the beer industry cuts off the supply … how long do you think it would take to repeal such a law ??? …

   AZ has been one of the fastest growing areas of the U.S. for a number of years now … and where do you think a sizable number of the companies and people that relocated to AZ came from ???

10. #10
    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    If any Republican cannot win in November with the issues the liberals are handing to them on a platter,I don’t know if they ever will be in the majority again.

11. #11
    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    I say it’s a response to BHO’s speech in San Francisco. California wants to weed out the remaining native-born, gun-owning, God-fearing, pro-immigration enforcement people and everyone knows they drink beer.

12. #12
    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Jim Beall:

    “Other researchers have concluded that raising beer taxes not only minimizes drinking but reduces alcohol-associated problems such as broken families, venereal diseases, property damage, and birth defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome,” Beall’s statement read.

    Wow…I guess raising taxes will cure VD too! I can’t believe it!

13. #13
    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    The frogs in the pot are already boiled…the politicians have won. Taxing with impunity and the most basic of the 5 food groups: beer, burgers, chips, ice cream and cookies.

14. #14
    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, LC said:

    Tax money is tax money no matter what product provides the income. This is just more cash-grabbing by the CA government.

15. #15
    On April 12th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, brooklyn red said:

    “teenagers are price-conscious”… yeah?

    So what does an ounce of marijuana go for these days anyway?

16. #16
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, countrybumpkin said:

    Meatpie, I thought the basic food groups were salt, starch, grease, alcohol and nicotine.
    When did they change?

17. #17
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, geminicontender said:

    I am hoping that they will tax my CO2 emissions from my GI tract. Beer is responsible for trees dying you know.

18. #18
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pm, geminicontender said:

    There’s no tax on marijuana yet brooklyn. Have to legalize it first and if you can grow it yourself there are little if any costs:):)

19. #19
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    On April 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, BrianNY said:
    Does this include malt liqueur?
    I smell a wedge issue here.

    Smells like 40 to me.

20. #20
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, graysonret said:

    Why don’t they just raise taxes on cigarettes again (and again)? Massachusetts is doing that again, to save that screwed up health insurance plan, just to prove that they love smokers and secretly want to promote it. So we have one state promoting beer sales (to raise money) and another state promoting smoking (to raise money). Gee, if everyone quit smoking and beer drinking, the country would literally go to “pot”. (pun intended)

21. #21
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, zorro said:

    I think this is racist.

22. #22
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, danny_n94 said:

    Thankfully this has no chance in passing. It would end up being an amendment so it would need 2/3 of both the assembly and the senate and pass a voter referendum. This person is just another democrat in CA that thinks tax everything and the government should controll ourr lives. If the dems ever get the white house they are gonna try to make this a socialist nanny state.

23. #23
    On April 12th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    The state of Mn placed a state wide ban on smoking in all buildings including fraternal organization, VFWs and the like. The attempt to social engineer a lifestyle is resulting in multi million dollar reductions in charitable gambling receipts. Nothing is going to work for a collectivist socialistic state that doesn’t include raising taxes to replace charitable giving by individuals. We’re closer and closer to a Thomas Jefferson described insurrection, I swear.

24. #24
    On April 12th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, TexasTiger said:

    A two-thirds majority of the Legislature is required to get the measure before voters who must also approve it by a two-thirds majority.

    Ain’t gonna happen.

    Assemblyman Jim Beall, the San Jose Democrat who proposed the tax

    …is an ABSOLUT f-tard. Want proof? Here ya’ go.

    “The fallout from alcohol consumption costs Californians nearly $36 billion a year in increased health costs, crime, lost productivity, and injuries from accidents and abuse,” Beall said. “It’s time for the beer industry to help us with the staggering burden it has helped to create.”

    Replace alcohol consumption with illegal immigration and the beer industry with liberalism and he might have a point.

    Beall claimed the tax could make beer harder for teens to obtain because of higher prices.

    Yep. The same teens who purchase fake IDs and shoplift booze are going to be deterred by higher taxes!

    By Assemblyman McBeall’s logic, don’t higher income taxes make good jobs harder to obtain?

25. #25
    On April 12th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, txvet2 said:

    AZ has been one of the fastest growing areas of the U.S. for a number of years now … and where do you think a sizable number of the companies and people that relocated to AZ came from ???

    Yeah, and now that they’ve screwed up Az, they’re moving to Texas. Take’m back, PLEASE!!

26. #26
    On April 12th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On April 12th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, TexasTiger said:
    

    “The same teens who purchase fake IDs and shoplift booze are going to be deterred by higher taxes!”

    “By Assemblyman McBeall’s logic, don’t higher income taxes make good jobs harder to obtain?”

    Two excellent points,TT!

27. #27
    On April 12th, 2008 at 6:47 pm, palani said:

    Where’s Al Bundy? I think California beer drinkers need his organizing skills about now.

28. #28
    On April 12th, 2008 at 6:53 pm, Mixer14 said:

    I’m guessing if this tax bill passes, Califonia border agents are going to be on th lookout for cars and truck riding lower to the ground from the weight of cases of beer in peoples trunks.

29. #29
    On April 13th, 2008 at 4:46 am, mojo said:

    Helping Ugly People Get Laid Since 5000 BC

30. #30
    On April 13th, 2008 at 10:44 am, Chuck said:

    Other researchers have concluded that raising beer taxes not only …

    Prove it. Show us the research.

    Sounds a lot like all the other ‘facts’ and ‘research’ that turns up missing when looked for. My all time favorite is when they start addding zeros to numbers until someone pays attention.

31. #31
    On April 13th, 2008 at 11:40 am, greenfairie said:

    Just wait until La Raza gets wind of higher prices on Tecate, Dos XX, and Corona! No cerveza, no peace!

32. #32
    On April 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, tpierce2 said:

    
    A liberal democrat, or democrats in general, want to raise taxes for every perceived injustice, perceived moral problem or just for the hell of it! Now its a health problem, or a medical problem, or whatever tag they can put to drinking bear.

    Remember the tobacco debacle,new taxes! Now beer, next hard alcohol, next–gasoline. One of the democrats wants to put 6 or 7 cents onto the already overtaxed gasoline in California. Why you ask! To combat global warming! Give me a break!

    These politicians disgust me beyond description. It would be nice to make the California legislature part time and pay them part time. The legislation they produce is mostly nannism! I feel the same about national democrats as well.

    A disgusted California voter!

33. #33
    On April 14th, 2008 at 12:31 am, Branden-in-escalon said:

    Great…one more stupid thing that the liberal politicians in California are gonna do that I have to pay for because I live here. Can I move to someone elses state?

34. #34
    On April 14th, 2008 at 6:04 am, graysonret said:

    The only thing left untaxed is the air we breathe…that and a surcharge on the gas we pass for global warming. Oops. Hope no politicians review this site.

35. #35
    On April 14th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, mojack420 said:

    Fine if you’re going to tax my beer I’m going to just have to buy more of the old number 7. And what ever happened to the good old day when they tried to enforce the whiskey taxes and they would end up tar and feathering the tax collectors and running them out on a rail.

36. #36
    On April 14th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, Rekd said:

    Someone has to say it, so…

    I don’t drink beer so I don’t care if they tax it!

    There. I said it.

    OK, seriously now: Half my money goes to taxes and I’m not even being represented on things I agree with. They just take my money and spend it on what THEY want. They could give a rodent’s donkey what I want.

    Where’s a lawyer that will take a case pro bono to sue the government for spending my tax money on things I am strongly against.

    For example: using the fees I pay to ride on public land to try to get that public land closed to riding.

37. #37
    On April 14th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    “Other researchers have concluded that raising beer taxes not only minimizes drinking but reduces alcohol-associated problems such as broken families, venereal diseases, property damage, and birth defects caused by fetal alcohol syndrome,” Beall’s statement read.

    Funny how they would NEVER propose raising taxes on something like condoms or the pill to help offset the cost of STDs, pregnancy, abortion, etc.

    Just things they disapprove of. Fast food, beer, gas, etc.

38. #38
    On April 14th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, mojo said:

    and little Sir John and the nut-brown bowl
    and his brandy in a glass
    And little Sir John and the nut-brown bowl
    proved the strongest man at last.
    – John Barleycorn Must Die (Traditional)

39. #39
    On April 14th, 2008 at 7:41 pm, Glorious Red Leader said:

    I have never been prouder to be a member of the Undocumented People’s Islamic Republic of Kaliforniastan, for we are leaders in revolutionary legislation, such as the $0.25 grocery bag tax which, according to legislators, is just what we need to save the earth.

40. #40
    On April 14th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, Expendable said:

    The thought of moving east grows more and more appealing daily. Fortunately, Uncle Sam will take care of that sooner or later.

    Good thing I stick to scotch. Oh wait, that’s next. Just wait for the next round of ideas that are originated from the PRB.

41. #41
    On April 14th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, ZK said:

    Taxation: The Democrats’ answer to everything.