Kabuki gun control alert: Wal-Mart sucks up to Nanny Bloomberg
Are you a law-abiding gun-owner thinking of picking up a new rifle at Wal-Mart? Forget it. The retailer has unveiled a new tracking and reporting system to satisfy NYC Mayor Michael Nanny Bloomberg and the gun-grabbers’ coalition:
A coalition of mayors in favor of gun control, led by Michael R. Bloomberg of New York and Thomas M. Menino of Boston, said on Monday that it had reached a 10-point agreement with Wal-Mart, the country’s largest seller of guns, to track the sale of firearms more closely.
The agreement between Wal-Mart and the group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, which Mr. Bloomberg helped to organize in 2006, calls for turning a more watchful eye on firearm sales, including videotaping sales of guns and conducting criminal background checks on store clerks who handle guns.
It also calls for keeping a record each time the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives links a gun bought at Wal-Mart to a crime. If a person who buys a gun linked to a crime were to return to a Wal-Mart to buy another gun, the purchase would be flagged. It would then be up to the store whether to permit the purchase.
When fully put into effect, the agreement would also prohibit the sale of a gun to someone whose background check comes back with inconclusive results. In many states, people are permitted to buy firearms even if a background check comes back with inconclusive results.
“This would be good politics to get behind,” Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference in Washington with other mayors from across the country. “Hopefully it doesn’t take that as a consideration to get you to do the right thing. But if nothing else, the public wants to stop the craziness of letting people who are criminals get guns.”
Nanny Bloomberg is right about one thing. This is all about politics. And nothing else. Pointless Kabuki gun control.
As Bob Owens points out, the agreement “will have very little significant in impacting the flow of guns into criminal hands:”
Criminals prefer firearms that are concealable, well-made, and of large caliber, but will settle for concealable, and handguns tend to fill that need. According to government statistics, rifles are used in just 3-percent of murders, and shotguns just 5-percent.
Of the “top ten” most commonly traced firearms in crimes (according to that same government report), seven are cheaply-made, small-caliber handguns, two are ubiquitous 9mm service pistols common among police, civilian shooters, and criminals, and just one is a long-arm of any kind.
Wal-Mart does not sell handguns, stocking only rifles and shotguns, and therefore this agreement, while somewhat interesting from the point of view of speculating why the retail giant might capitulate to Bloomberg’s wishes (trying to get into the City where they haven’t previously been allowed, no doubt), will have virtually no discernible impact in fighting gun crime.
The NRA weighs in:
“I view it as a public relations stunt that stigmatizes law-abiding firearms purchasers exercising their freedom under the Constitution,” said NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre. He said that if politicians were serious about reducing gun crime they would worry less about legal sellers and buyers and get tougher criminal sentences for illegal gun dealers.
“I honestly think it’s a corporation trying to curry favor with politicians as opposed to doing anything meaningful about stopping crime,” said LaPierre.
Bullseye.
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My local Walmart stopped selling rifles and shotguns, which appears to have resulted in the stocking of 100% made-in-China merchandise. So, I guess it’s the Tanner Show for my next firearm(s) purchase(s).
Wal*Mart can kiss by Blooming business goodbye.
There’s lots of local independently owned gun shops that are happy to have my business.
where’s the aclu on this? isn’t this an infringement on my civil liberties somehow? the government has no right to “track my purchases”. what’s next? mandatory dna sampling for gun-owners? perhaps an electro-shock anklet that shocks you at a slightly higher voltage each time you shoot your gun? oh wait…my bad…this isn’t a liberal issue. the aclu won’t be interested. surely they’re trying to get the ladies bingo club in podunk, tn to remove the american flag from their stage…
More gun laws only impact those that abide by the laws but hey … gun control works.
Ask Hitler who utilized gun records in France to reduce the competition.
Ask the people in England and Australia who have seen great increases in gun-related crimes since they made guns illegal.
Ask any criminal and he will tell you that he is a firm believer in gun control laws.
IMHO
Gun control is being able to hit your target the first time every time.
Peace! Through superior firepower
Perchance is there a group called Mayors Against Illegal Immigrants?
Legal gun owners aren’t the problem… they are a part of the solution.
More feel good legislation on the part of the Demmies… thanks for nothing Mayor Bloomberg.
Bloomberg,
Just goes to show that any idiot can get lucky and become incredibly rich. What a moron…
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Rep. John Boozman [R-AR] introduced H.R. 5782: To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to provide for reciprocity in regard to the manner in which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in that State.
OT
Hey Jtex, maybe you should just come up with a grand or two and ask Hillary to invest it for you. She has a pretty good record at “getting lucky” and becoming incredibly rich. A hundred grand would pay for my retirement where I live … quite nicely I may add.
Unfortunately, I cannot find it in my heart to ask her to invest for me. Now if I could just find my Hsu box …
And apologies to the rest of the crowd here, I do not mean to attempt to hijack this thread. I am just bitter and clinging to my Bible and my guns you know.
So… Keeping tabs on law abiding citizens will stem gun violence?
And they call the Republicans the stupid party.
(We are all aware of Bloomberg’s RINO status…)
I’m NO friend of “my mayor” or the anti-gun folks, yet I think it’d be prudent for gun sellers to take the screening and I.D. initiative themselves, like they do for youth firearm use education. If the NRA ran its own _really responsible_ and accurate anti-criminal background databank for dealers to tap into I think it’d take a heat gunowners get from the press and schools.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
This is going to backfire on Walmart!!!!
Guns, which are purchased legally can be stolen and used in crimes.
The “victims” will go after Walmart, if/when that happens.
The gun grabbers have had no luck shutting down gun manufacturers with their bogus lawsuits. So now, they’re going after the people who sell firearms.
There is pressure from both inside and outside our country to eliminate gun ownership by citizens. Dictatorships, Corporations, and Nanny States hate armed citizens. Our Founding Fathers realized that armed citizens were empowered citizens…. Stay strong, and don’t let down your guard!!!
When asked for a comment, Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino mumbled incoherently for two to three minutes and was then whisked away by his security contingent.
Mr. Nanny(Bloomberg) doesn’t care about actually solving the problem he just wants to look good for the NY Times and liberal elites by wanting to be seen as a gun grabber.
I agree with what Mr. Owens speculated on about this being done so they can get into the City, ridiculous that they would bow down to him just to put stores in NYC.
I give it 2 weeks before they (Wal-Mart) reverse their policy. Knowing this I will never go to their store for anything firearm related as long as they “cling” to this anti-American policy. (Credit to Obama for the use of the word “cling.”)
Seems a little odd that Walmart weighs in on this now, since they’ve stopped selling guns at all (at least down here).
I propose a tracking and reporting system for pregnancy tests, adult novelties and copies of “Fahrenheit 9/11″.
I guess I’ll have to buy my .45 handgun ammo somewhere else now. Can probably get it in bulk cheaper elsewhere anyhow.
I’ve been to Walmart a million times, and not once did I ever think to buy a gun there. There’s just something really strange about walking out with a grocery list that contains:
Eggs
Bread
Milk
Butter
Jello
Orange Juice
Shotgun
I’m more of a sword collector anyway.
I have one pistol I keep at home, but my father collects guns of all types. When he goes shopping for them, we go to a gun store. Not a grocery store.
Just my 2 cents. The policy shift doesnt take weapons out of the hands of criminals anyway. I dont think they do their “gat” shopping at wally-world, anyway, so…moot point far as i’m concerned.
That’s marksmanship WarTip. Gun control is placing a double tap on your target every time.
Bloomberg probably timed this to take the attention off of his illegal sting operations outside NYC.
abstractmind,
You’re funny.
I’m with you on no more firearm related purchases from their stores. Local gun store owners here in Alabama tend to support the 2nd Amendment so I’ll be giving them my business.
I try! You guys have kept me entertained for a couple of years now, its the least I can do.
In seriousness though, I have never considered going to a retail store like that to purchase a weapon of that nature. Camping gear, sure. Firepower…not so much.
I’ll continue attempting to be entertaining later, work calls
I don’t see anything wrong with this. This doesn’t affect law-abiding gun owners.
I’ll bet he has armed guards,along with that million mom march pig..Rosie…
With McCain, Hillary, and Obama in the running for President, people are stocking up on guns and ammo.
It seems like a REALLY bad time to turn gun buyers against you, Walmart.
It’s to bad these mayors don’t even expend 1/10 of the effort removing incentives for illegal immigrants.
Did y’all here about the earthquake in northwestern Arkansas? It was Sam Walton, an enthusiastic bird hunter, spinning in his grave.
Since my gun safe is already pretty well full, I wouldn’t buy one there anyway. But, I have bought ammo and hunting licenses there.
I’ll be shopping else where for those things, now.
’nuff said, There is a great local gun dealer here in my town, he already gets most of my business, now he gets it all..
I gave up on Wally World after they rolled over for Rosie O’Donnell on the same issue.
Fco, I had six guns stolen from my home in Nevada. I had greasy fingerprints all over the windows. I called the police like a good concerned citizen … mostly worried about losing my rights because of the actions of a criminal. They told me I could come down and file a report “if I wanted”, they were open until eight and then hung up on me.
I called them back and explained the presence of the fingerprints on the window pane and was told the same thing again and hung up on again. One of those guns was used in a crime and you want to guess who they held accountable for it? Fortunately for me, his crime had been committing suicide.
Granted, Wally-World may be better equipped to deal with this effort than some of our illustrious government officials but still, we are putting our rights in the hands of others where they can be randomly denied to us and “infringed upon” … strictly forbidden in the Constitution. That little inconvenience that results in a direct infringement of my rights is what I have a problem with.
WarTip:
I’m sorry that happened to you. I understand that it’s impossible to guarantee your possessions are never lost or stolen. But when trusting someone with a weapon it does become a factor how well that person can be trusted with the responsibility of protecting it so it doesn’t fall into the wrong hands. And I’m not referring to someone like you, but someone who has proven irresponsible with gun ownership. I don’t mind a system that tracks and detects someone who’s lost 4 guns in one year for example.
Sure seems the goal of the nannies is to force the law abiding citizen to be more dependant on government, huh?
I can just see the next couple steps: 1) monthly accounting of weapons and ammo. 2) when crime doesn’t drop, all gun owners will be rounded up as criminals.
We desperately need another Charlton Heston!!
When they say an inconclusive return on the check allows the store to make the call, is that going to be a set policy, or will it be the clerk and/or manager on duty at any given time? A year or so ago, I got an 870 there, and they seemed helpful and cheerful. Previously, at another store (further into the ‘country,’ ironically enough) my father got looked at like some sort of lowlife, knuckle-dragging, bitter scum by the manager as they carried it out of the building. Given the option, that manager would have refused sale if she could have.
fco, I think it’s a dangerous game to give this kind of power to government. Seriously, it may not seem like an issue now, but will it always stay that way? Doubtful. I don’t think it’s about holding the correct people accountable - it’s about us losing our rights to a larger, more powerful government. We should fight that every step of the way.
Good Grief! If you exercise your 2nd Amendment rights you give up your 1st Amendment rights?
Tell me again how you can do all of this to people buying guns but it is illegal to ask for picture ID from voters?
What timing, just ran across this inflammatory headline:
“25K want guns, right to kill campus shooters”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/14/campus.guns/index.html
Gee, do ya think maybe the MSM is biased against armed citizens protecting themselves? Makes us sound like a bunch of nutjob vigilantes. Imagine the nerve of these crazy kids not wanting to end up like the other 32 DEAD folks!
Walmart sells only shotguns and rifles, mainly hunting guns. I wonder how many are used in crime. Hey, is that a rifle in your shorts …
Democrats, raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. It’s up to you to figure out why gun control figures into liberal orthodoxy so prominently.
When they come for my guns and ammo, they will get them, bullets first.
Yeah, that could be true and maybe in 98% of all cases it would actually be the case. However, I am not willing to allow my rights to be subjected to that infringement even if I am one of “only the other one or two percent”. It gives subjective powers that are open to interpretation and can be used to infringe upon the rights of we the people. Nobody should have that kind of power.
Just for the record, those were the ones I had around the home for self defense. Those were not prize weapons, collectors weapons, the weapons on my ranch or others I had stored more securely, but the point remains, I did have someone try to blame me for some criminal’s suicide even though I fully complied with and obeyed the law.
Hate crimes legislations are the same in my book, any of these subjective powers that are “open to interpretation” need to go. Ben Franklin (I think it was him) was right when he talked about allowing the lawyers to write the laws. They become so convoluted as to end up being nonsensical in many instances.
As for the swords, I have a few and while I am not a trekkie, I have a really nice custom made (and fully functional) ba’tleth with a few of my own specs added to its creation.
OOops, headline on their homepage:
http://www.cnn.com/
It’s so fantastic to read everyday about all the horrible things that liberals, Democrats, and other wicked, vile beings are doing to our nation. What’s even more fantastic is how organization after organization, group after group, corporation after corporation bend over backwards to accommodate the agenda of evil in our nation rather than to stand against them.
John McCain won’t do anything to stop the Democrat fascism. Wal-Mart won’t either. I suppose they believe in the strategy of appeasement (even though appeasement has yet to win one battle).
I suppose it’s great to read about it too, but it’s going to take more than reading and writing to recover our nation from the grasp of wicked people: more action is needed… the passive fight is not working folks!
I think that would be defined as self defense in most reasonable minds. It would be addressed in the Constitution as the most fundamental of all rights, the right to Life, without which there is no need for the rights of Liberty and no ability to pursue anything, much less happiness. At least not in this world anymore.
I can’t imagine any reason to purchase a firearm at Wal-Mart. Regular gun dealers and sporting goods stores have much more to offer and they don’t cut deals with gun-grabbers like Bloomberg.
True to their ultra-liberal socialist masters, the ACLU does not recognize firearm ownership as an individual right:
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Scenario:
You purchase a shotgun for duck hunting and target shooting from Wal*Mart. One year from your purchase, you have decided that you greatly enjoy competition clay shooting, so you trade the inexpensive shotgun from Wal*Mart toward a more expensive competition model at a local gun dealer.
Two weeks later, the gun dealer you traded the shotgun to is burglarized and the shotgun you traded is stolen. The shotgun is subsequently used in the murder of a convenience store clerk during a robbery. The perpetrator is arrested and the shotgun is seized by the police. An ATF trace is run to determine whether the firearm was lawfully purchased by the perpetrator and where it was purchased.
Manufacturer records show that the shotgun was originally sold to Wal*Mart, and the 4473 form obtained from Wal*Mart shows that it was sold to you. Wal*Mart now flags your name as a “crime gun purchaser.”
After being contacted by law enforcement, you show the investigator the receipt showing you traded the shotgun to “Fred’s Gun Shop” approximately six months ago. The investigating officer tells you to have a nice day and go about your business. Wal*Mart has no knowledge of this because it does not concern them.
A few months later, you want to buy an inexpensive shotgun for your grandson so that he may participate in clay target shooting with you. While this purchase is perfectly 100% legal, Wal*Mart refuses to sell you a shotgun, since you are now labeled as a “gun criminal.”
I travel for work and always have my weapon nearby. Have had 2 hotel doors opened by people they checked into my room while I was already checked in.
When i go to Wally world it is not to buy guns. In Pensacola I’ve never seen handguns on display at wally world. Keep in mind the SCOTUS ruling comes out in June which will be a landmark. Sounds like the gunowners will come out on top but ya never know.. The gun haters are like fire ants and will spread to take our guns away so every little chunk of the rock they take out it is much closer to what they want.
Gun control is knowing when to use it and when not to. And ole Mikey wasn’t there to help me on my decision. By the way no rounds down range both times.
This whole gun control issue is such nonsense. They could stop selling guns right now and it wouldn’t make any difference.
My g-g-grandfather was in the Civil War and his weapon still works! My son collects handguns and where he lives is determined by whether or not the floor will hold his gun safe. Each of those weapons have at least a 100 year life span. I have 2 weapons, for rabid raccoon and rabid ground hog control. (Klaatu - 4, varmints - 0) They will last for decades.
Like every other element of supply and demand, all gun control laws will amount to is price controls. As usual with price controls, it will have the opposite of the desired effect. Guns will still be available, and more valuable.
Only a liberal with petrified brain matter would think that gun controls will get weapons off the street. Please imagine the liberal’s dream: the government does a sweep of all residences to confiscate guns. They can’t do them all on the same day! So, you move your weapons to Aunt Tillie’s house until they are finished in your neighborhood. Then bring Aunt Tillie’s guns to your house to “protect them” from the sweep. Does anybody with a gun have a back yard where they could dig a hole? Weapons would be “planted” until they are needed.
Big city mayors can’t find missing or exploited children. How are they going to find every Glock in the neighborhood?
Too bad we can’t put up an anonymous poll showing how many people have one or more weapons. The Dems might be surprised to see not every gun owner is an NRA member.
wow this sucks, ever since I’ve been economically frustrated I’ve been clinging to guns, God and anti-illegal immigration philosophies. So now where do I go to satisfy my thirst?
mojojojo Re: #44
You will need to register the trade so the dealer becomes the new owner of the gun. What if the dealer is a convicted criminal?
The only gun I’ve purchased from Wal-Mart was a .22 Ruger Single-Six revolver back in 1992, when I was a college student. (Wal-Mart still stocked handguns in its stores back then; they quit doing that in the mid-1990s due to another antigun
f- er, suckup - on the part of its corporate management.)Even back then Wal-Mart gun purchases were a pain: They let me buy the gun, but wouldn’t sell me any ammo to go with it (”We’re not allowed to sell you both at the same time, you’ll have to come back” I was told)…and then both a store manager AND a uniformed police officer (working security) escorted me to the parking lot with my new purchase. Again, supposedly store policy, and I’ve heard similar stories from other folks who’ve bought guns from Wal-Mart.
Which is why that Ruger remains the only gun I’ve ever bought from Wally World. I do occasionally buy ammunition there - just bought a bulk-pack of Federal .22s yesterday, as a matter of fact - but from now on I expect I’ll be feeding my guns with shells from Cabelas’ and Bass Pro.
Here in North Georgia, you can still buy long guns at most Wal-Marts. What I love about the South is that it’s the only place I’ve ever been where you can buy ammo off the shelf, but baby formula is locked up.
That old maid, NYC Mayor Michael Nanny Bloomberg, needs to be reminded that “the right of THE PEOPLE shall not be infringed.” (no offense to real old maids).
Here’s the Second Amendment in it’s entirety:
Pure politics - and pure pandering by Wal-Mart. I’ve noted that the only reason Wal-Mart is doing this is to keep the likes of Bloomberg off their back.
But it won’t do any good, since their efforts will have zero impact.
Since Wal-Mart bent over this time, they will do it again when the gun-grabbing goons come to Wal-Mart and demand that they get the names and addresses of every person who buys ammo.
And then requires that they call LEOs when someone comes in and buys 1,100 rounds of WWB 9mm - for a training class.
And eventually, Wal-Mart will stop selling the stuff and claim that it is not profitable for them - since all of the buyers will go elsewhere due to the stupid policies!
That is exactly what Bloomberg wants!
I never once thought about buying any firearms at Wal-Mart. It would be quite hard for me to conceal a shotgun. This will go on my list of the most stupidest decisions I’ve ever heard. I live in Oregon and everyone I know carries and has purchased their firearms at a real gun store.
On April 15th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, mojojojo’s post #44.
mojojojo: great post, seriously. and while i understand your point and hopefully you my sarcastic question…here’s the rub: my question wasn’t so much about the aclu’s position on gun-control as it was about the big, mean, government maintaining a “file” on my actions. this violates my right to privacy, no?
My instructor said it was maintaining a steady sight picture.
I don’t see anything wrong with this. This doesn’t affect law-abiding gun owners.
Try this scenario, Mojojojo;
A local government bans pump-action shot guns and lever-action rifles. They, then, take Wal Marts records so they can track down buyers of such firearms.
#48, Fco, convicted criminals aren’t gun dealers.
I dunno, Bloomberg would let Ted Kennedy buy a car…
Another good reason to avoid Wal-Mart. Time to take a trip to the red side of WA and stock up on guns and wine.
Thanks to the wife working for the local Wal-Mart (we refer to as the devil) about the only game in this small Military town I get a 10% discount on all the ammo I buy. With the jump in price of about $3.00 a box since last fall I will find it hard to buy ammo elsewhere with the same cost savings unless I break down and make the investment in reloading equipment (starting to look more attractive every day). I have yet to view any of the long guns on display in the Sporting Goods Department the same way I yearn for the weapons that catch my eye at the local gun store.
I’m sure you don’t. But the hip-hop artists suffering from the disparate impact of that provision would have a beef.
Thank you Aloha. The point of the hypothetical was the outcome of trading a gun registered to you with a second party, not limited to gun dealers.
Is that a bad thing?
I stopped shopping at Chinamart when I couldn’t find anything made in the USA in their store.
Videotaping guns sales? Jesus Christ, people - boycott their asses.
There is going to be a lawsuit over this. As soon as they deny a gun sale to someone who is a law abiding citizen it will open them up for litigation in a big way. They can’t just “refuse service” to someone because they want to - they have to abide by the laws and not infringe on someones constitutional rights.
There are a great number of scenarios where a law abiding person could buy a gun a Wal-Mart and it later be used in a crime that they did not even commit. They could sell it some years down the road, It could be stolen from them, it could be used by a family member in a crime or a domestic situation. Or, with the way some states are confiscating guns for any reason they can find, it could even get into their database without it being used in a crime. Wal-Mart needs to get out of the guns and ammo business all together or this is going to really come back to bite them.
Funny…
The “Right” to privacy can be used to justify a woman killing her unborn child…
Yet won’t protect you from A CORPORATION making records of a perfectly legal constituionaly protected purchase.
Fco,
I see someone already pointed out that convicted felons cannot hold an FFL. The point of the hypothetical is still valid, in that if you trade a firearm to a legal dealer that trade is recorded by that dealer.
Now, Wal-Mart is injecting itself into law enforcement by this voluntary registering a person as some kind of crime gun buyer, but what about the reverse? When someone is clearly not a crime gun buyer, do they not have some sort of responsibility to ensure they do not impede a future legal purchase by a law abiding citizen?
They’re getting one way to themselves, without shouldering the responsibility that comes with it. All to please a liberal politician and his ilk.
Hmmmm, so minors can go into Walmart and come out with rated “R” movies, cigarettes and beer but they want to stop evil adults from getting bullets, shotguns and shells?
Bass ackwards as usual.
I’m with you 100%…i don’t buy anything grown, made, produced, caught or manufactured in China or Mexico unless I have no choice and it’s an item i need.
I am sure Wal Mart has been videotaping gun purchases for a long time now.
A buddy of mine tells me a story of a guy who purchased a phone card at a Wal Mart and then proceeded to use that card to make harassing phone calls. It turns out the phone company gave up the phone cared used, which was then traced to a Wal Mart, which had video of the phone card’s purchase and then tracked down the purchaser.
Trinity United Church of Christ boycotts Walmart (and Sams) because kids are being killed by handguns. Chances are if TUCoC is doing it, it is a bad idea.
Clue TUCoC, Walmart and Sams do not sell handguns - duh.
Again, let’s not deal with the real issues Walmart. Your stance will cost you and I am glad. I will not boycott but I will send out some nasty-grams.
I miss Sam!
Ms Malkin said:
thought that might be a hint to shop elsewhere but Target doesn’t sell firearms last I checked.
between the two I’m usually more annoyed at Target’s politics and so shopped at wally world as needed but with the 100% made in China and now this… the more local businesses I can support, the better.
I’ve been Wal Mart free for over a year now. Occasionally I go there with a friend (I don’t buy anything) and it takes a while for the creepy feeling to go away.
Being from the People’s Repulik of Kalifornia, I haven’t been able to buy my guns at Walmart for a long time, but I definitely would not do so after this turn of events, even if given the opportunity.
I used to buy ammo there occasionally but it was just a nightmare trying to have them track down the one guy with the key to the locked cabinet, who of course always turned out to be on break. I can’t imagine trying to buy a firearm there, even under the old rules.
On April 15th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, Romeo13 said:
Funny…
The “Right” to privacy can be used to justify a woman killing her unborn child…
Yet won’t protect you from A CORPORATION making records of a perfectly legal constituionaly protected purchase.
Great point. I agree 110%.
#5
I know a Mayor V.
Who would lead…
Mayors FOR Illegal Immigration.
He’s the Mayor of LA…
What more do I have to say?
by CM
Wow. Walmart. What an amazing thing. Who knew you had it into. I thought you were an evil corporation who uses PR spin to advance your agenda of the perfect business platform. Grow and destroy. In Todays New York Sun, Mayor Bloomberg says
Wal-Mart, its great to have the mayor on your side, but there’s these groups in NYC called Unions and they don’t bend over too easily. The whole point of this gun nonsense is to establish enought support as a responsible corporate citizen, to gain entry into the NYC market and have a chance of jumping onto 20 million customers. Sweet. Yea. Super. But a release from the Local UFCW 1500 said different.
Well, that sounds all nice mashed potato with gravy and a sliver of butter. But, Bloomberg goes silly.
Every City. Every Mayor at the Coalition heard this. Well if NYC is doing it we should too. Corporate Responsibility. I wonder how much business they’ll lose with all these restrictions? I bet not as much as they’ll gain by having 1 store in Manhattan. I’m no CPA, but that sounds about right.
K-Mart did the same thing a couple of years ago….I no longer go there.
Wal-Mart has decided to do this only because there isn’t the profit level they could get from other products, so they’ve thrown away the American Gun Owner.
My suggestion is for concerned people who do not like this move by Wal-Mart to write them just as we just did Absolut.
A larger comment I’d like to make especially during this election is that the only reason why more gun control didn’t happen after 1994, and that the Democrats bother to even talk nice to gun owners since then is because Gun Owners waged a scorched-earth campaign on every issue affecting them without compromise.
If you want conservative issues to be ultimately pre-eminent, you must be willing to vote against and not cozy-up to a John McCain-type politician…Even if it means making him lose the election in 2008 so that the issues we hold dear are taken seriously.
That’s it for me.
No more Walmart. No way. Not no how.
Won’t spend my money there.
For anything.
Here is the canned responce you get if you email Wal-Mart about the matter:
So if my gun is stolen that i buy from them and is used in a crime how is that going to help ? Oh i see now so i get sued for owning the gun that comitted the crime. I guess i can sue walmart for selling me a gun that got stole that was used in a crime ? sarc/off
Have not bought anything at wal mart in years. They tend to have a lot of things that you use once and throw away.
The guns I purchase are rarely from a shop so large. I prefer the small town gun shop. Although they are becoming increasingly rare. One of the best ones nearby was leveled so that they could install a traffic circle on that plot of land. They touted it as “Your nickel at work”.
I’ll register my guns with a shot out the window at whomever thinks they want to come and take them or make me register them.
They already do.
Tried buying cold and allergy medicine with a decongestant in it for the past couple of years? You have to provide a picture ID and signature to the pharmacist (which means you can’t get it after or before the pharmacy hours), you can only have 1 pill a day, you can only buy 10 pills at a time, and no more than 30 in a month (you’re screwed if the month has 31 days). The store provides the data to the Feds. Oh yeah, you have to be 18 and you can’t get a prescription for it, so if both you and your kid have allergies at the same time, you’re out of luck unless you find another adult to purchase it for you. Or do it illegally at a different store and risk having the DEA show up at your door.
We used to live in the United States of American, the home of the free and the brave.
I cant believe this… More companies are following this anti gun propaganda. Why dont they look at press releases from the FBI, DEA, DHS, & Research studies from independent sources… that say Gun Control doesnt work. That states with no gun control laws.. no registration.. have record low crime. Vermont is enjoying record low crime in the states history… since they cancelled registration, permits.
I live in New York … just found out that The Assembly passed about 10 anti gun amenments. 10!… All that hurts gun owners.
Please if your not a member of The NRA … now is the time to join. http://www.nra.org
Im hoping this country returns to its senses and to Freedom
Thank you
Private Jean Marciniak
United States Army National Guard
Bloomberg attempts to accomplish 2 things: shows he’s doing something about the gun “problem”, and to attack Wal-Mart, the left’s nemesis. Neither one is successful, of course; it’s just for show. If I wanted a gun, the local stores have plenty to sell anyway.
Frankly, I could care less what they do in the socialist republics of Boston and New York Sh#ttie. Perhaps Bloomie, with Hil and Chuckie’s help, can propose a bill for succession, Now that’s something I could support.
PVT Jean,
Good luck on America coming to its senses, and I pray that if and when another attack occurs–people will step up.
Unfortunately the only people who will are the Sheepdogs!
GSP
Maybe Bloomberg and Wal-Mart could point out where in the 2nd Amendment or the Constitution it allows for the Government and Walmart to track gun purchases.
Every one of these back door attempts at infringing our Constitutional Right is nothing more than Tyranny.
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
It seems to me that a clear reading of the 2nd amendment would say that both Bloomberg and Wal-Mart are infringing the 2nd Amendment right of Americans.
Of course I am not an attorney or Judge that would “interpret” the meaning of Shall not be infringed to mean that the Government can force you to register your gun, have a background check, take your picture to put into a data base, and have Wal-Mart maintain an illegal database to track your purchase so you can be sued.
Our founding fathers wrote the Constitution in plain English for a reason, they knew the moment the ink was dry that some lawyer would try and “interpret” the clear meaning of their words to fit their agenda.
..and do not get me started on what they have done to militias in this country.
That means by proxy Bloomberg has acheived a NATIONAL REGISTRATION program. You don’t think that next year he will tell the press “why if Walmart can do it can’t the US Government?” You think that YOUR LOCAL police forces won’t walk into the local Walmart and demand to do ad hoc queries on their databases? Bloomberg has already sent his cops as far as Virgina to pull off stings at gunshows and gunshops. He has teamed up HIS cops with BATF agents to walk into gunshops in NY and the BATF guy asks for the yellow sheets while the NYC cop looks over their shoulder.
When Bloomberg calls for Microstamping and turns to Walmart what do you think will happen. Walmart will DEMAND IT OF THEIR VENDORS. 17% of Remingtons guns are sold at Wal-Mart guys !!! Don’t you think Tommy Milner may winch but he will salute and say Ay Ay captain ! All without a single legislature having to act. YOU DON’T GET TO VOTE ON THIS ONE. This my friends is the real POST HELLER WORLD. Bloomberg is just so freaking smart. He is OUTSOURCING POLITICAL ACTION.
The NRA reeeeeaaaallllyyy needs to step up to the plate on this one.
The NRA (of which I am a Life Member) really has been behind the curve ball when it has dealt with outrages by Wal-Mart, K-Mart, and UPS with respect to how they treat gun owners.
Kudos to The Raging Republican