The enviro-nitwit-ization of the GOP is complete Updated

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 16, 2008 10:14 AM

President Bush surrenders, reports Iain Murray.

Unwilling to stand for scientific integrity, rational cost-benefit analyses, private property rights, and free market environmentalism in a hysterical effort to out-gore Al Gore: That’s your GOP.

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Read Murray’s The Really Inconvenient Truths: Seven Environmental Catastrophes Liberals Don’t Want You to Know About–Because They Helped Cause Them .

An increasing number of “green” “conservatives” don’t want you to know about them, either.

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Update from the Washington Times–looks like a last-minute retreat. Or, more likely, a temporary reprieve:

President Bush today will lay out how Congress should combat global warming, proposing a specific national goal for carbon-based pollution but rejecting a proposal by Democrats and Sen. John McCain to impose mandatory caps on industry to reduce greenhouse gases.

It marks a departure for Mr. Bush, who until now has fought new congressional mandates on carbon emissions.

According to several people briefed on the announcement, to be made in the White House Rose Garden, Mr. Bush will tell Congress he won’t accept any of the plans under review in the House and Senate.

Instead, he will tell Congress to pass a bill that won’t harm the economy and that includes a mechanism to make sure international economic competitors don’t gain an advantage. But he will for the first time propose a target for U.S. carbon emissions, making good on a pledge last year to take leadership on that issue.

The decision to change course was first reported by The Washington Times on Monday.

But the president has backed away from calling for the sort of cap-and-trade system favored by Democrats, including Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, and by Mr. McCain, the Republicans’ presumed presidential nominee. That system would set a cap on total carbon emissions — a key greenhouse gas — and lower that level over time. Businesses would be allowed to trade credits for emissions among themselves, allowing the market to help regulate costs.

One person briefed on White House deliberations said a cap-and-trade program for electric utilities was dropped from the package yesterday, after the White House was flooded with complaints from industry officials and lobbyists.

“It got pulled out. It happened somewhere between this morning and five o’clock,” said the person, who said the Bush announcement still marks a significant departure from its policy for the last seven years.

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  1. #289477
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:20 am, Barry F. said:

    Apparenlty, staying in D.C. too long just erodes any differences politicians may have had with the Washington insiders, when they first went there.

  2. #289478
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:21 am, George said:

    Bush has been Gore-a-fied. Dubya’s idiocy has matured with his tenure in office. Too bad

  3. #289482
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:21 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    President Bush surrenders, reports Iain Murray.

    Unwilling to stand for scientific integrity, rational cost-benefit analyses, private property rights, and free market environmentalism in a hysterical effort to out-gore Al Gore: That’s your GOP.

    Don’t do nothin’, stop meddling – there’s a concept!

    I never thought I’d say this but I can’t wait for January 2009. He’s gotta go… and yes, I am fully aware of the implications of that statement.

  4. #289496
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:27 am, txvet2 said:

    I don’t know why people continue to be surprised with Bush. He’s been doing the same type of thing for 7 years. His single claim to conservatism has been his tax cuts, other than that he’s been a bad replay of Clinton without the sex scandals.

  5. #289503
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:28 am, spo-con said:

    Ah yes. Pope Gore and his new global religion. I have to say also that G.W. has become a great let down for me. And not just on this topic……..

  6. #289505
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:29 am, onlybeef42 said:

    I never thought I’d say this but I can’t wait for January 2009.

    Problem is we are going from a closet moderate/liberal in Bush to a choice between an outright ‘Maverick’ or the most liberal member of congress

  7. #289506
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:29 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I guess GW is looking for his legacy. Problem is…McCain, Obama and Clinton are also in the same boat.

  8. #289507
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:29 am, txvet2 said:

    Ok, ok, I take it back. Clinton actually signed more conservative legislation than Bush has, because he had a more conservative Congress.

  9. #289508
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:30 am, terrig said:

    30-I’m with you on him leaving-can’t come too soon. I shudder who will be moving in but I guess we can worry about that later.
    Wonder if daughter Jenna is going to have a “green” wedding. One of my old Army friends has a daughter getting married in November. They are planning a “green” wedding. When I asked him exactly what that meant he said he had no idea but whatever it was, it was going to cost a lot more. She had promised her late mother she would wear her gown when she passed away as she became engaged shortly before her death. Apparently bf told her it’s not made of “green” material so they’re shopping for something else. I’d never heard of such a thing myself but guess we’ll have a “green” festivities for the next president.

  10. #289512
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:33 am, onlybeef42 said:

    “Green” = more cash

  11. #289514
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:34 am, rooster said:

    How much longer does Bush have as Moron in Chief of our country?

  12. #289521
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:38 am, DaveC said:

    as each election cycle passes, the pickings get worse and worse..

    ManBearPig doesn’t really need to be president if he can call the shots like he does and be completely absolved from it as well..

    power and no accountability..

  13. #289524
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:40 am, johnsteele said:

    Wouldn’t you know it. Just when the “Gorbal Warming Deniers” are finally starting be heard, Bush caves in. It was bad enough that McCain believes the Gorbal-Warming nonsense but now Bush decides to join the party. I had hopes that by the time a new president could take office the true nature of Gorbal Warming could finally overwhelm the enviro-nuts and the Euro-weenines but I guess not. We will now launch this country down the path of ’saving the planet’ from a non-problem and end up damaging the economy and possibly the planet in the process.

  14. #289526
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:42 am, expat said:

    Amazing how he is changing his position now especially with all of the information coming out now that refutes the global warming falacy. If he is looking after his legacy he is doing it in a strange way.

  15. #289531
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:44 am, hrobusto said:

    We need a “Draft Michelle for President” movement. Women like Michelle and Laura Ingraham are proving themselves to be more articulate and staunch defenders of the conservative movement than most of the men of the Republican Party. Are we ready for a female president? Yep! Just not Hillary. Would you gals, please rescue us from the spineless wing of our party? In the meantime, I’m going to steel my nerves to the eventual vote I’m going to have to cast in November for someone I really have no faith in.

  16. #289532
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:44 am, GOPGin said:

    Bye bye Bush.

    The door’s on the left.

  17. #289540
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:48 am, spo-con said:

    Al Gore has WAY too much power for a guy that holds no public office. Can’t G.W. see that this guy is laughing his big backside off at all of us.(all the way to the bank)

  18. #289541
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:49 am, terrig said:

    Dave C-ManBearPig doesn’t really need to be president if he can call the shots like he does and be completely absolved from it as well..

    That is my hands down favorite episode of “South Park”.

  19. #289542
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:49 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    terrig,
    So much for keeping the promise to mom. Going “green” is sooo much more important. I just bet it’s going to be a big wedding to, lots of people travelling to get to the wedding. Separate cars to transport her and her groom to the wedding. Yeah, just like everything else…it’ll be a green wedding because they say so. I don’t think most people know what they mean by it.

    I just thought of the best wedding present – instead of money in an envelope, give her carbon credits instead. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    I feel better already…

  20. #289546
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:52 am, eforhan said:

    All you people excited for Jan. 2009 to come, just remember all three of the main contenders are running on a Global Warming platform.

  21. #289548
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:53 am, RedDog said:

    When the power elites want something, democracy, reasoned debate or the “will of the people” is no obstacle. Get ready for more of the same.

  22. #289552
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:54 am, Ahh a Lion! said:

    I’m going to keep pounding the drum here: The two party system is dead. Both parties run on the same platform – Gun Control, Big Government, Debt Spending, Inflation, Abortion Rights, Corporate Bailouts, Individual Welfare, (Un)Free Trade, Open Borders, and now Climate Control. I think it’s important to realize that everyone of these issues boils down to one goal, and that’s control of the populace.

  23. #289562
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:58 am, DaveC said:

    Terrig

    that is one episode that sums up Algore’s quest for power in a neat little metaphor.. the beast, ManBearPig..

    Excelseor.. (sp?)

    Cartoon Wars I and II
    and Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow..

    are also great as well..

  24. #289571
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:02 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    President Bush surrended? Heck, he never fought the battle!!!!….. yep 2009 is so far away it seems.

  25. #289572
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:02 am, DaveC said:

    WTF??

    Green wedding?

    she was using the same wedding dress as her mother.. is that not recycling?

    Or did the dress need to be actually green?

    Something Old
    Something not made by machines
    Something borrowed
    Something Green?

    hope they used a horse and buggy to transport all the guests..

  26. #289574
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:05 am, ThackerAgency said:

    Beware the green industrial complex.

  27. #289588
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:12 am, ScottyDog said:

    The ethanol mandates that GWB recently signed into law are resulting in Global Food shortages and famine in some third world countries. Because of the ethanol fuel mandates alone, Food prices have increased by 37% last year because the price of corn that is used to make ethanol has tripled in price.

    A little more than 40 percent of the corn grown in the country goes to feeding livestock, so when corn prices go up, the prices of livestock and byproducts follow. The energy bill passed in December by the U.S. Congress will require 15 billion more gallons of ethanol from corn, driving up not just the cost of meat, dairy products and eggs, but of anything containing high fructose corn syrup.

    Ethanol is the largest scam in our Nation’s history—only the controlled media won’t report the story—and if Congress ratchets the subsidy up anymore, this twisted policy (still largely benefiting one company, ADM, which holds a near monopoly position in the industry) has the potential of undermining our food security.

    The old hogwash about getting “energy independent” and helping corn farmers keeps building votes- pushed by an aggressive phalanx of paid association liars and bought politicians. . . . The corn gluten angle and even the fact that ethanol reduces engine life and delivers lower gas mileage than conventional unleaded seems a tad too complicated for the journalists to pick up on.

    Last year in California, they mandated tiered electricity billing because of “Global Warming” that resulted in electricity bills that doubled and tripled, in some cases forced people to stop using their air conditioning. They simply could not pay the bill!

    Congress has capped and virtually stopped domestic oil production using Global Warming as the latest excuse to curtail production. Now we are looking at $100 a barrel crude oil prices caused by limiting the supply of oil in the name environmentalism or Global Warming.

    Frankly, if this Global Warming insanity is not stopped soon, our economy is not only going to suffer, we may have a “1929 type depression” that many economists are warning us about.

    It will have nothing to due will the rise of the temperature of the Earth but the hysterical over reaction of our Political Elite that believe in the Man Made Made Global Warming Hoax.

  28. #289592
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:13 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:52 am, eforhan said:
    All you people excited for Jan. 2009 to come, just remember all three of the main contenders are running on a Global Warming platform.

    I said I was fully aware of the implications. But praytell what differences do you see on this front?

  29. #289595
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am, DaveC said:

    Scotty Dog..

    side note… you are not a runner, are you?

    anyway.. good post..

  30. #289598
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:18 am, eforhan said:

    I said I was fully aware of the implications. But praytell what differences do you see on this front?

    Other than getting rid of a president who gets attacked by one side or the other no matter what he does? Nothing.

    My best wish is for McCain to get a strongly-conservative VP and he retires after one term.

  31. #289602
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Chuck said:

    President Bush has continually disappointed me. This is just the latest stupidity from the White House. His legacy will be the destruction of the American economy. Welcome back Jimmy Carter.

    [To be followed by either Larry, Curly, or Moe as the next POTUS. My God, we're doomed.]

  32. #289604
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:22 am, Barry F. said:

    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:02 am, DaveC said:

    hope they used a horse and buggy to transport all the guests..

    Dunno. How does equine flatulence compare to that of bovines? The cars might be more green. ;-)

  33. #289607
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:23 am, abstractmind said:

    This just makes me want to leave a larger carbon footprint…you know, one about the size of Montana.

    Ugh.

  34. #289609
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:24 am, dankitti said:

    Green wedding?

    she was using the same wedding dress as her mother.. is that not recycling?

    Or did the dress need to be actually green?

    I think you need a green wedding dress if you are getting married on Saint Patrick’s Day. Or something.

  35. #289613
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:25 am, dakine said:

    ScottyDog, Time magazine had a huge cover story 2-3 weeks ago on the ethanol issues you raise.

  36. #289614
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:25 am, DaveC said:

    Barry F..

    it’s the symbolic gesture of the horse and buggy.. and not the evil oil guzzling car.. that would make it a green wedding..

    like the fact she had to buy a new dress and not recycle her moms old dress..

    liberalism is a mental disorder..

  37. #289623
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:27 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    30 pcs

    There is no difference, as you accurately suggest. The truth is, this is the only thing I can ( gagging now) agree with the Demofascists on, McCain will be Bush redux. But, (ack) I’ll vote red.

  38. #289626
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:29 am, txvet2 said:

    My best wish is for McCain to get a strongly-conservative VP and he retires after one term.

    Mine is that he names a strong conservative, and gets caught with an intern (either sex) in the first week.

  39. #289630
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:32 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:18 am, eforhan said:
    Other than getting rid of a president who gets attacked by one side or the other no matter what he does? Nothing.

    I didn’t say impeach him. :-)

    My best wish is for McCain to get a strongly-conservative VP and he retires after one term.

    That would be ideal.

  40. #289631
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:33 am, tgusa said:

    So what are they going to do when it starts cooling because that’s what is going to happen research Earths history. There is an argument to be made for more carbon in the atmosphere being beneficial. There are also many questions as to whether the solutions being put forth are worse than the problem. Already we are seeing food prices skyrocket food riots are cropping up it wont be long before some areas are hit by famine. Soon someone/group/country is going to sue algore I myself believe he should be tried at the Hague for inciting a panic. In the future people will be calling for the heads of these fools and I say we give them to them. I guess that our politicians having proved that they can’t do their jobs are bound and determined to remove any residue of credibility that may still exist. When you start having power outages when these people have succeeded in rationing energy you will find out just how infuriating it is. I remember gas rationing I have had my power go out for nothing more than the lack of it. Its enough to drive you insane which is what I think these people are by the way. Misery loves company.

  41. #289633
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    MNUSMCDavid,
    Yep. I’ll vote for him too. I don’t like it one bit but the alternative is just downright scary.

  42. #289634
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:35 am, ScottyDog said:

    DaveC said:

    Scotty Dog..

    side note… you are not a runner, are you?

    anyway.. good post..

    No, why do you ask?

  43. #289640
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Weary Citizen said:

    OK, somebody out here help me understand. If global warming is real and caused by man as many believe (especially libs), how does allowing millions to immigrate or invade our country each year help the situation? Most immigrants come from 3rd world or developing countries. The “carbon footprint” of the typical American is far greater than that of a developing country. So by deduction, aren’t we making the global warming problem much worse through mass immigration? How do the greens/libs resolve this paradox in their minds? More people in Developed countries equals more pollution, thus escalating global warming. The Sierra club is the perfect example of double talk in this situation.

  44. #289643
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:39 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Who said they can’t “tax the air you breathe”? Carbon usage tax is on the way. Someone will figure out what the average American uses in carbon and we will be taxed on it. Of course, Al Gore will have to pay the same as the average American as it is an average.

  45. #289645
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:40 am, robert said:

    I’m new at this on this web site and so may have a short lived tenure here. At this point in time I am not so sure that the depression caused by the globaloneyists would be a bad thing. first they would have to finally admit there are economic consequences to their lunacy. second as time goes by and all their doom and gloom hysteria fails to materialize they will be thrown under bus by the very sheep they are “trying to save”. third the economic chaos might actually get enough people out of the policial partiy’s (there is no Democratic Party or Republican Party – only the Political Party with Democratic and Republican divisions much like the NFL) spell to get a bunch of them replaced.

  46. #289655
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:45 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    robert,

    except you fail to realize that once the carbon usage tax is implemented, it will never go away – facts or no facts.

  47. #289666
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Mister P said:

    I don’t know if Global Warming is a real concern or not (though I doubt it). What I do know is that Al Gore does not believe it. If he did, he would change his lifestyle and live like Ed Begley Jr. I respect people who walk the talk, not people who expect YOU to walk their talk.

  48. #289687
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, babbledabble said:

    If the envriogores get their way we won’t have to worry about food shortages. Anyone remember “SOYLENT GREEN”?

  49. #289689
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Weary Citizen,
    You are applying logic to a situation where libs only require you to respond emotionally. You know, the whales are dying or something like that.

    You raise a good point though. If they truly believed GW was as dangerous as they are trying to convince us it is – they would wholeheartedly support comprehensive illegal immigration reform. Instead of trying to make some bold statement about how they aborted a child because the child would be a drain on the earth’s limited resources.

  50. #289697
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, nbarry said:

    A few months ago, the History Channel did a two-hour program on the earth’s natural history. It pointed out that the earth was always warmer than it is now until 2 million years ago, when volcanic activity formed the Isthmus of Panama and blocked equatorial ocean currents. It also predicted that in another 15,000 years, the glaciers will be back to flatten Manhattan no matter what we do about energy. As far as I know, neither Gore no anyone else has disputed that program’s findings.

  51. #289711
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, pressto said:

    Has anyone bothered to take a look at the climate over the last 10 years?

  52. #289715
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, wighttrasch said:

    do digital TVs use more electricity than analogs?

  53. #289720
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, notanexpert said:

    It seems like this could be another case like the prescription drug bill. Bush figures that some government action is inevitable and that if he does it now while he’s in charge he can manage to make it not quite as bad as if it happens later under either a Dem or McGore.

    Not saying I agree with the tactic, but it may be — in his mind — a compromise more than a surrender.

    Personally, I think the best strategy would be to stonewall — basically, run out the clock on the ridiculous predictions of the AGW crowd.

  54. #289731
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, nyc123me said:

    Is stupidity Bush’s idea of bipartisan results?

  55. #289736
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, JHSII said:

    I remember when I supported Bush because I believed that he was going to stand up against the democrat party – not stand up with them. Now, everytime he reaches across the aisle he punches people like me in the face.

    Personally I don’t believe that anyone McCain selects for VP will be able to influence him; just look at how much influence Dick Cheney has had as the President pushes him out of the way to reach across the aisle again…and punch me in the face.

  56. #289749
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, gandolphxx said:

    President Bush continues to scatter shoot at things hoping that a legacy will get nailed – sad. Makes for a long 8 months.

    Keep in mind that the democraps have had control for 15 months and we are already talking about recession – what will anothe 6 months bring?

  57. #289753
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, mycroft69 said:

    I am now officially no longer a Republican.

  58. #289778
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, DaveC said:

    Scotty Dog.. #42

    No, why do you ask?

    My wife is a runner and she posts on a message board and one of the guys who posts on there is named ‘Scotty Dog’ also..

    just thought I would ask..

  59. #289779
    On April 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, tgusa said:

    If you are pro GW you must be against any exports of humanitarian aid to the world. Absolutely no development of under developed countries can be allowed. You must be for execution in all life w/o parole judgments. Many nonessential programs must be shut down beginning with any NASA missions to Mars and anywhere else they plan to go in their search for little green men. The size of guvment must be halved at the very least any programs that assist people in surviving must be eliminated. All power hungry industries such as Hollywood must be shut down their leaders put in to camps and reeducated. There is absolutely no need for entertainment of any kind it just distracts us from the issue while pumping out massive amounts of carbon. English as the only official language in the USA must be the law think about the amount of carbon we could eliminate by getting rid of forms in different languages. You have to be pro war, war thins the human population after all. Immigration, forget about it, we are already over our carbon limit. There are literally thousands of things that we need to do I’m sure all of you have particular pet peeves that you would like to see adopted. Surely all of us have different things we want to see eliminated, well here is you chance have at it be creative.

  60. #289827
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, dforce95 said:

    Rumor has it Dubya rented “Inconvenient Truth” over the weekend and mistakenly became concerned.

  61. #289829
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, Boomer said:

    God save us from compassionate conservatism! I will not miss the departure of the current POTUS, but like others have stated I fear what will replace him too.

  62. #289840
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, sclawstudent said:

    So does “GOP” now stand for “Going Overtly Pinko?” How can “our” leadership claim our support if they constantly abandon all the values we hold (right to property, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness)? I swear, sometimes I think the GOP treats the conservative base like the Dems treat Iraq: run away, disown any progress, and surrender to the enemy.

  63. #289841
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, DaveC said:

    Wow.. TGUSA..

    all those ‘you musts’ .. sounds like you think everyone on the right side of the spectrum is a robot with only one central brain..

  64. #289842
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, DaveC said:

    TGUSA

    you MUST have not paid any attention to the presidency of GW…

  65. #289845
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, JHSII said:

    tgusa…huh? Where did you get that from?

  66. #289852
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, MattS said:

    Maybe Pope Benedict will educate President Bush on the “fearmongering” done by the global warming whack-jobs.

  67. #289855
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, DaveC said:

    tguse

    if you want BHO as pres, then

    YOU MUST want Nationalization of all properties

    YOU MUST submit to nationalized health care.

    YOU MUST give up your evil oil driven car in favor of the horse and buggy..

    YOU MUST worship the mother earth Giai

    YOU MUST not want any questioning of authority

    YOU MUST want and dissidents in a camp and re educated or, failing that, exicuted..

  68. #289863
    On April 16th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, md1964 said:

    President Bush has to have an IQ of about 60.

    Either he still beleives that if he cowers and stands with the most obsurd positions the liberals hold, that they will start liking him…or he is just too easily duped, and nods along believing things they are saying even when the evidence si proving otherwise.

    Bad thing is… McCain is just as much a Liberal at heart as Bush…so America is automatically a loser no matter what happens November.

  69. #289869
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, tgusa said:

    No DaveC I was actually referring the causes that leftists usually oppose or support, get it?

    What do you mean JHSII? Oh never mind you are making my point while not getting it.

    By the way I wrote it in an attempt to show how outrageous and utterly stupid it all is.

  70. #289871
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, sbw999 said:

    Unwilling to stand for scientific integrity, rational cost-benefit analyses, private property rights, and free market environmentalism in a hysterical effort to out-gore Al Gore: That’s your GOP.

    Did Dennis Kucinich die and possess George Bush?

  71. #289874
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, DaveC said:

    sorry :)

    my bad

  72. #289886
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    do digital TVs use more electricity than analogs?

    No. BTW, it’s a good excuse to dump that old clunker computer monitor for a nice slim flat-screen. They only use about 1/3 of the electricity of an analog monitor. Tell that to your spouse when you bring that 27″ beauty home.

  73. #289888
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, tgusa said:

    Sawwright DaveC, I guess I was a little too realistic I’ll be more careful in the future.

  74. #289905
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, DaveC said:

    I jumped too quickly as well..

    reading too many posts by trolls.. and not the kind who live in the lower peninsula in Michigan either.

  75. #289931
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Yo Pauly said:

    #45 robert said:

    first they would have to finally admit there are economic consequences to their lunacy

    Actually, they (libs) will find a way to blame it on the Bush Administration.

  76. #289932
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, timinphoenix said:

    Bush makes one know how someone must feel when the spouse they stood behind through thick and thin, proves that he started fooling around shortly after the marriage.

    Wow, Dubya has given me a better understanding of Hillary.

  77. #289949
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, JeffC... said:

    Crap–my alma mater, Carnegie Mellon, just announced AlGore as this year’s commencement speaker.

    The same school that let Michelle Obama’s handlers ask an Asian student to give up her seat behind the podium for a white student for appearances sake. (No word whether Senator McCain’s people did the same thing yesterday.)

    No money from me this year. I’ll let them know why the next time they call.

  78. #289984
    On April 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, escondidoguy said:

    Where’s Duncan Hunter??????? Let’s start the primaries over.

  79. #290000
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Mister P said:

    JeffC, could have been worse. I went to see a friend’s commencement at Duke and Jimmy Carter was the speaker.

  80. #290004
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, love2rumba said:

    The only reason I voted and re-voted for George W. Bush was that we could get the assault weapon ban sunsetted under his watch…If one really looked at what his background and views actually were then 2000 and 2004, there really was no difference between Bush and Al Gore or Bush and John Kerry in terms of hard policy.

  81. #290007
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, love2rumba said:

    Moreover it was a blessing that the war in Iraq didn’t go so well for him and his poll numbers dropped because he then had to reach out for his base…when it came to the assault weapon ban which he swooningly wanted to reauthorize…and then relaized he would have to just let that insipid ban pass (if he wanted to get re-elected.

  82. #290011
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, love2rumba said:

    I also predicted to several neighbors that after 2004 George W. Bush would begin a major sellout of the Republican base of conservatives which here and elsewhere has already begun.

  83. #290021
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, love2rumba said:

    If McCain is President, we will haveZERO leverage on his policies.

    His election will be tatamount to having a Democrat is office.

  84. #290052
    On April 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    *sigh* And to think, I just sent in my first ever voter registration yesterday as a Republican.

  85. #290135
    On April 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, JeffC... said:

    Mister P, the fact that it was at Duke alone made it worse. :)
    (I also have a degree from Virginia.)

  86. #290165
    On April 16th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, graysonret said:

    What a great excuse to raise taxes again. Global warming. It’s unbelievable the arrogance of the human race, thinking they can control the earth and sun. We’re just kids in our understanding of what’s around us, and like kids, we figure we’ve got everything figured out. Politicians see only more power here.

  87. #290282
    On April 16th, 2008 at 6:30 pm, jbh50 said:

    Notice how networks have moved away from using the phrase “Global Warming” and now are using the phrase “Climate Change”. Why you ask? Because the upper midwest has been anything but “warm” this past Spring!

  88. #290316
    On April 16th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, terrig said:

    Dave C, I asked Rich about recycling the dress and he said that’s what his younger daughter asked her and the idiot bf (he’s not really happy about this wedding and is secretly hoping it doesn’t come off) and the bf said “It needs to be green materials. This dress was made with nylon in parts.”. I don’t know, I know I’m looking forward to seeing these “green” wedding pictures. Should be interesting.

  89. #290335
    On April 16th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, Speakup said:

    Scientists can’t prove global warming is actually happening not to mention prove its man made but scientists already have proof that no matter what we do the outcome won’t change (what does that say for any warming consensus?) Regardless.

    So why are we supposed to bankrupt the entire world and eventually live in mud huts if we can’t change it anyway?
    I guess so we can feel soft and fuzzy while we’re kept company by fleas.

  90. #290512
    On April 16th, 2008 at 9:08 pm, DogBreath said:

    I live just outside Olympia WA (Moonbat Central) where the National Weather Service is predicting near record to record lows and snow to 1000′. Looks like the florescent bulbs are working.

  91. #290657
    On April 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, starlightwoman said:

    The earth has been cooling since 1998. But yet the MSM and pc elite love global warming – because it gives them the chance to raise taxes and exhibit control over everyone else.

  92. #290726
    On April 16th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    GWB has decided to drink the Kool-Aid. He and all the rest of the Man-Made Global Warming Conspiracy Lunacy need to practice what they preach and reduce CO2 emmissions. They can all start by holding their breath for at least 12 hours each day.

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