However, I do draw the line at rape, incest and threat to the mother. I question what it would be to have to raise the child of the man who raped my wife…

Not saying it would be a decision that could be taken lightly, but one that would have to be made.

On April 17th, 2008 at 3:42 pm, Byantine said:
Wait a second…

Is Obama defending someone who engaged in terrorism?

If so, how do we expect him to be the Commander in Chief during the War on TERROR?

Hmm?

Forget that! BO doesn’t believe we should be at war with terrorists!

Besides how does he propose changing terrorists mind by sitting down with them, when he cannot change the mind of a friend (Bill Ayers) with whom he must have conferred any number of times?

My wife gave up a career in theatre, ranging from ballet, stage to opera in order not to abort. If there is any regret, it was only for falling into a relationship with a gambling-addicted and serial impregnate-them-and-leave-them boyfriend. Now she has had 5 bundles of joy. Fortunately, it happens more often than assumed that actresses give up their career than abort.

On the flip side, most of the women that I know that have had abortions wish above all to undo the abortions. Some have admitted to re-occurring nightmares. Some feel pain whenever they see precocious kids being themselves. The rest are either narcissistic or lame-brained.

I should also remind her that my family was wealthy. That in no way guaranteed a happy childhood. But a horrific childhood doesn’t have to make for unhappy life. I’ve had ups and downs like anyone has. Life is precious, and sometimes those of us who have truly tasted of the bitter, enjoy the sweet to the opposite degree.

It’s one thing for someone who knows me to wish me dead, but quite another for someone who knows NOTHING about me. lol

I wish liberals would really just shut up. But I believe in freedom of speech, so they can blather on.

The best thing liberals can do is speak their mind. Let them show everybody what they are all about, rather than pretending to be about hope and change and happy times.

I agree with you, it is the height of arrogance to go around deciding for others what kind of lives are/aren’t worth living.

As to aborting babies because they are born into poverty or families who don’t want them… I don’t even know where to begin.

I wasn’t wanted and was raised in an EXTREMELY abusive environment. So thank you mistressjustice for thinking I should have been aborted. I’m GLAD I’m alive thank you very much.

On to aborting babies conceived by rape. I aborted my baby in college partly because it was conceived due to date rape.

I bought into the feminist crap that it wasn’t a baby, just a blob. I became pro-life on the table when it was too late. I knew that I had just caused my baby to be killed. And I was not religious at the time, so no it wasn’t religious guilt. I just realized in a mindnumbing moment what I had done. Nothing horrifies me more about my life than the fact that I made that choice. I am now almost 50 and childless. But it’s not about me me me… women used to be willing to sacrifice for their children, now women want their children to sacrifice for them even to the point of death.

There were two other women in the ‘recovery room’ who tried to encourage me. One was on her third abortion, the other her fourth.

I wouldn’t change how I grew up (with the abuse I suffered) but I would change the fact that I aborted my baby. The answer to one crime isn’t to commit a worse crime. He raped so I murder? It doesn’t help or solve anything, only made it worse.

The nightmares that followed cannot be described.

There are SO many people who were born into poverty and unwanted homes who have become such awesome people! And there is always adoption. WHO are YOU to promote weeding out the less advantaged (only in your sick mind). Hitler believed in that kind of thing.

And you think everyone who lives in a trailer park is on drugs or too poor to have children? You must love b. Hussein.b What a moronic elitist snob you are.

I wish liberals would really just shut up. But I believe in freedom of speech, so they can blather on. Carry on with your insanity mistressjustice.

weakest.strawman.evah.

On April 17th, 2008 at 7:38 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.

Why yes it does. You’re judged by the company you keep. Doesn’t matter when the acts were committed, the fact that he BOMBED US facilities in itself despicable.

First, that’s really shady logic. I’m sure – I would hope – that you know people with whom who you disagree and whose actions in the past you think were wrong. The degree of despicability seems more or less irrelevant; regardless of how despicable the act is (very, in Ayers’ case), the question is whether or not Obama somehow is guilty solely by virtue of knowing someone. Second, the degree of company-keeping seems trivial. According to Washington Post’s fact-checker site, it seems that Obama and Ayers know each other from having served on a poverty charity’s 8-person board, and from Obama receiving a $200 campaign contribution. While I’m sure that $200 buys a lot of influence, I don’t see how working together on a poverty organization constitutes the sort of company-keeping that would be at all an issue. Is a trivial level of connection really that damnable? Did you realize that Bill Ayers and Michelle Malkin both have blogs powered by Wordpress? It would be ridiculous to say that that means Malkin in anyway agrees with Ayers. Granted, the Wordpress connection is more trivial than Obama’s, but not by much.

fact-checker: http://tinyurl.com/2j6xwc
Bill Ayers’ blog: billayers.wordpress.com