MoveOn’s definition of “hurting the country”
Yes, it’s true. The left-wing anti-patriots at MoveOn.org, who didn’t think twice about handing jihadists potent ammunition the day before the sixth anniversary of 9/11 with their despicable attack on Gen. Petraeus, are now worried about actions that “hurt the country.”
Dangerous, perilous, damaging, harmful actions…like having a Democrat debate moderated by journalists who aren’t complete and total sycophants.
Heaven forfend!
Sound the alarm!
Issue the Important Action Alerts ASAP!
The Soros water-carriers say they will run an ad against ABC–Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulous photoshopped as Hitler and Eva Braun? Nah, too subtle–if they gather 100,000 signatures.
And, of course, MoveOn blames Karl Rove:
Moderators George Stephanopolous and Charlie Gibson spent the first 50 minutes obsessed with distractions that only political insiders care about–gaffes, polling numbers, the stale Rev. Wright story, and the old-news Bosnia story. And, channelling Karl Rove, they directed a video question to Barack Obama asking if he loves the American flag or not. Seriously.
Enough is enough. The public needs the media to stop hurting the national dialogue in this important election year. Can you sign the petition to ABC and other media outlets and pass it on to friends who are also fed up?
A compiled petition with your individual comment will be presented to ABC and other media.
What’s your over/under on ABC and other media caving in to the MoveOn/nutroots ultimatum?
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On an even more hysterical side note, one nutroots blogger has now dubbed the ABC News debate the “‘Michelle Malkin/Steve Doocy’ driven non-policy based debate.”
The country will not be safe until the Schoolmarm/Snoozefest regime of Democrat debates is restored.
MoveOn to the rescue!
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Stranger and stranger.
Time to tell these clowns to move over.
So Wright is stale, but Abu Ghraib is cutting edge.
Now I see.
Whaaaaaaaaaa! We don’t like tough questions!
If the liberal wimps think that those questions were tough, wait until Obama’s going against McCain. After his dismal debate performance, he’s actually gaining traction in the lunatic world of the left. If the guy studders on a debate question, how’s he going to respond with his finger on the trigger?
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. I’m still dumbfounded that half of this country suffers from mental illness. How have we survived this long?
Thank goodness Rove is on our side and can control everyone and everything, including debater moderators, polls, voting machines, news coverage, the weather, and the Earth’s magnetic field. What I can’t figure out is how exactly Rove telepathically got Wright to damn America on TV. Rove is an evil genius, I tell you, and he’s our evil genius to boot.
Karl rove is the master of evil. He is satan. Blah blah blah. I can believe how far they are will to go to cover thier guys inablity to respond to unscripted questions.
Just thinking out loud here…Could ABC be making a move to compete for the “Fair and Balanced” croud? If they keep doing things like this it could help ratings for sure…but would it be a ligitimate change in bias or just a scant bit of pandering for fair minded thinkers… Time will tell, but I will give them a chance.
I wonder how these patchouli smoking tie-dyed crybabies will handle things when this empty suit has to answer real questions in the general election… instead of just debating insignificant policy differences with his Socialist soul mate Hillary?
Jim C
Nazi comparisons are MoveOn’s bread and butter.
How powerfull is karl Rove?
1/ He makes Chuck Norris a little nervous.
2/ He made the sun rise from the right, not the west.
3/ He plants questions into moderators minds with the power of his mind.
4/ He caused the DNC to nominate Kerry but making million of voters press the wrong button.
Any more?
So, let’s see now. Illegal immigration doesn’t hurt the country. Cut, run, and surrender in Iraq doesn’t hurt the country.
But, a couple of real questions asked of people trying to get the most important job in the country DOES hurt the country.
Am I missing something here?
I am still surprised that ABC treated the 2 dems as they would have any other republican.
Great job Charlie and George. You guys were right on with the issues that bother millions of Americans.
Almost ready to end my boycott of ABC news programs.
elraphbo: Asking questions that should be asked is still a long way from “Fair and Balanced”. It’s a start, but I’m not going to hold my breath, waiting for more. Let’s face it…MSM has lowered our expectations so much, that when they finally do something halfway decent, we’re shocked, amazed, and impressed. Little Johnny has been making so many D’s and F’s, we’re pleased when he makes a C.
Two very fine upstanding Americans if you ask me.
movealong.org yawn and wah.
Take it for what it is, the left is in the midst of a full-blown identity crisis. By that I mean their identity is finally being exposed to the majority of the public.
As their candidates travel even farther left, it is inevitible that moderates, if there is such a thing, democrats would finally get a view of the real direction their party has gone.
Senator Obama is more virulently left than even many in their own party can stomach.
Senator Clinton is only a step or two behind him, but even she can see where he is going to lead this movement, if he is given the chance.
Since much of the left’s funding for groups such as “MOVE-ON” comes from overseas as well as domestic socialists, it is no wonder they would be in an uproar over the exposure of their Manchurian Candidate.
The left cannot stand up to the harsh light of critical questioning. The truth is that they never could.
And going forward, may they never get away with it again.
Jim C. True, the major difference seems to be how fast they will pull out of iraq.
pfft. pot, meet kettle.
I think a “‘Michelle Malkin/Steve Doocy’ driven non-policy based debate” would be far more informative than any of the 235,893 democratic debates we’ve had thus far.
I was amazed that Charlie Gibson was aware of the effect lowered capital gains have on the Treasury…that he actually used that fact in a question to a donk, well that’s just short of a miracle!!!
Call me an airhead but I am hopefull that Moveon will piss off ABC enough to wake up the moral, ethical, non-biased standards DEEP INSIDE this MSM outlet…and maybe China will do the same to CNN. And maybe the Heavens will open and The Lord will strike down Nancy Pelosi right?!?! Seriously though. Here’s to proving Conservatives are actualy the open-minded, reasonable thinkers of our great country!
I’d put it at even odds.
This “swiftboat” tactic by ABC was wonderful. I will make an effort to watch more often to see if we can actually have another television media outlet that is not slanted left.
One has to remain hopeful that Soros and his influence peddling machine can be stood up to.
MoveOn is just being a bunch of sourpusses because they started off this campaign with two shining stars, and they’re ending it with an elitist and a liar.
“Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. I’m still dumbfounded that half of this country suffers from mental illness. How have we survived this long?” (OrlandoCajun #4)
Kinda get the feeling our days are numbered..
Focusing on “gaffes”?
I suppose they are right about one thing - that Obama’s character, credibility and integrity are “gaffes”.
It’s time for Soros to “move on”. Perhaps back to where ever he came from.
I’ll bet Karl’s hands are cramping up from all the puppet strings he has to pull, for both parties.Heh. These people can’t be serious. Every time they get their butt handed to em’, its Roves fault! RDS me thinks……..
REMINDER ALERT!!!! PROCEDE WITH EXTREME CAUTION!!! LIBERALISM NEVER DIES!!! Do not let your gaurd down for one second.
Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulous getting thrown under a bus by the leftwing loons is RICH.
Good God…I love this country.
What tools. Everyone knows the important action alert is totally impotent without the vicious rant.
When both candidates are virtually identical on all issues, the only way to differentiate them is by focusing on the “gaffes”. The result is we get to see what slime lies beneath the candy coating.
On to convention!
If you examine the brain of a Lib/Dem you will notice some very important parts/gears are missing.
lib/dem brain
Missing Parts
I Pity the fools.
ABC News seems to have pulled a McCarthy!
They actually asked tough questions that correctly identified socialist candidates.
I’m impressed - the ghost of Joe has risen!
I noticed they do not allow comments on vids they post to the tube. Typical elitist cowardly post and hide. Notice all the hollywood elites making idiotic argument thay never have to defend? How’s that for “democracy in action?”
Reminds me of the unionist thuggery and the usurping of monies for political grease……….pathetic
I thought more debates were a good thing. Lefties love talking about how they feel about things. Let us have more debates. Tell us how you really feel Obama. You too Hillary. Now if you will excuse me I must go back to reading my bible and cleaning my guns.
How about we revoke Doctor Evil’s passport too?
MoveOn is absolutely correct. I mean, we shouldn’t care if a candidate has a history of fabricating events, or association with (former) terrorists, or why they continued to attend a church with a rabid pastor. After all, once they are elected, they would become paragons of honesty, morality and judgment, correct?
The Party of Perpetual Outrage and the Religion of Perpetual Outrage have a lot in common.
We have heard the “liar, liar” accusation from liberals for 5 years, but the Bosnia lie is “old news”?
Didn’t anybody get the memo with the questions to be asked? Someone must lose their job over this, isn’t that the democratic way? How silly IS this, really? Don’t they think there will be decisions and comments to make when they are playing for real? Crybabies, all of them!!!!
MoveOn ‘It sucks to be you’ when you are treaded like a Republican.
I do agree that the media has not asked any tough questions. Here are some I would like them to ask.
Do you think the Constitution is “living document”?
Do you think a Supreme Court Justice should use International law when deciding a case?
How should the military be transformed in order to deal with both terrorism and the rise of Chinese military strength?
There are many more very important question that actually have to do with duties of the President as enumerated in the Constitution.
I hope this makes Soros’ Triglycerides spike
I do agree with move on with one thing, the issue of illegal immigration was avoided. Mostly because their messiah fillibustered so much answering his character flaws.
Imagine Charlie Gibson, or Georgie asking the Hildabeast and the empty Barrack about the overall drain on most, if not all US citizen tax provided services due to illegal immigration on our country.
Illegal immigration would have been the coup de gras of the excellently orchestrated dem debate by Bush conscript, Karl Rove and the evil Darth Cheney.
sonofdy #10.. that was funny..
Beat me too it..
MoveOn seems more irked that ABC actually tried to give the candidates ‘tough’ questions..
I’m trying to figure out is that the debate by ABC was really focused and hard hitting? or just by comparison to the other debates that have been done by the MSM..
Isn’t MoveOn ran by the same radicals who defined ‘question authority’ back in the 60’s?
now the questions are being asked to their ‘anointed ones’ they cry foul..
But aj, it looks like a connection is missing in the x-ray. Did you post the brain of an early neandrathal?
“Michelle Malkin…(non) - policy based debate” We need more Michelle Malkin debates!! A feather in your cap, Michelle. Keep up the great work!
Moveon.org is out to get ABC for asking the Obamination real question about real issues that have finally popped up their radar screen through this too long campaign cycle that define his character, associations, and fitness to hold political office. His responses showed the rest of the world the empty suit we know him to be. Today I heard on Fox & Friends that he doesn’t want to do any more debates. What the heck is the anointed one going to do when he has to debate the grumpy old man beside spout empty feel good phrases from a fawning MSM only throwing softball questions to him.
Maybe the DOJ needs to go after Soros for his meddling in the election process. At least for now he has thrown millions of dollars down a hole and still fails to get any return on his investment. May his losing trend continue! I wonder if Karl Rove gets any sleep at all he is so busy running around behind the scenes controlling the weather, media, and political process how does he get any rest?
All new channels should stop bowing to MoveOn. MoveOn is anti - Bill of Rights from 1 to 10. They are nothing but a front for power hungry Soros and his quest for complete domination. MoveOn has absolutely no right to squash a different opinion. But they can because of Soros’ money.
also.. I think that when the left cries out ‘Rove’, it’s almost on par as when they call someone a ‘bigot’, ‘racist’, or ‘fascism’
(had to link to that guys page.. the normal link,http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc, wasn’t working today..)
The best part about all of this, is hearing the libs whine that the important topics weren’t debated. If you haven’t heard them talk about the economy, Iraq, and healthcare by now, then you are too clueless to matter. Why do we need to hear them babble the same talking points, they have used in every other debate. Besides, they never give a direct answer to any of those questions anyway, just “We need change”.
Be sure and go to ABC.com and leave a nice comment about the debate, so they do get scared by the fascist moveonist. Its worth it just for a good laugh, reading some of the lib comments.
Boomer, you forgot to mention he also now runs Fox(FIX?)News. Hes a busy boy!
whoops should be, don’t get scared of moveon
isn’t that the truth. dead on Salukidog
Barack Obama has no business running for President of the United States. He’s a lightweight with no substance and wouldn’t have gotten this far if he wasn’t black. His way of dealing with justifiable criticism is to attack the ones who dare criticize the exalted one and God help us if he actually gets elected.
So, I guess as far as the nutroots are concerned ABC is the new Fox News.
What is important now is for conservatives to get the message out about just how these bastions of the Democrat party are acting, and in that regard they still have an uphill battle. None of the other “Brothers in Arms” networks or fellow travelers in the Mass Market Media are going to call any attention to the way these folks are acting or any way connect them to the Democrats.
If a tree falls in the forest but nobody is around to report on it, does it make a noise?
If MoveOn pisses ABC off enough do you think they’ll do an an investigative report on them and expose their lunacy to the country? Naaaaaaah!
We can’t forget that Soros feels he owns the Democrat party which includes the Lame Stream Media. He is fuming that part of the propaganda wing (ABC) with two of their own people strayed and failed to hand questions to the candidates on a silver platter. “How dare they catch our people off guard and make the look like the clueless fools (or should I say tools) that they really are?
The American people are not supposed to actually find out what these Socialist clowns really stand for. They are liberals and also don’t have to account for their words or actions.
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Two words, denied by the Clintons for a long time, really apply to both Hillary and Barry/Barack.
Character Matters
Seriously. Considering that people can lie about where they stand on things, don’t we have to actually trust the candidate? Hillary is a proven liar. Barack/Barry has a closet-full of skeletons (Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc).
Asking questions that delve into a candidate’s character matter to me.
Michelle, your words to their ears, like sprinkling Holy Water on the Devil! Well done.
I think if MoveOn and the Kossacks, etc. make enough noise,ABC might cave. But I also think that if enough of us congratulate them on their sudden burst of objectivity, and if we do it louder than the lefties’ whining, maybe ABC will be able to decide which is the larger market…
So asking questions about possible affiliations with known terrorists and about lying about sniper fire is not substantive, but Boxers and Briefs are. And the liberals wonder why they keep loosing the presidential elections.
I believe the country has seen Obama exposed and will “Move on”.
The spell has been broken, he needs to get out from behind the curtain, and balloon back to Kansas.
Didn’t watch the debate. Had no reason to. Heard that ABC asked “tough” questions, not “softballs” as Chris Mathews/Barbara Walters/Katie Couric would. Gee, that’s a shame. If they can’t stand the heat…
As you say Michelle, “boo freakin’ hoo”.
Screw’m.
BTW, where can we email “Thank You”s to Charlie and collegues?
I see dead people…
The Soros water-carriers say they will run an ad against ABC–Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulous photoshopped as Hitler and Eva Braun? Nah, too subtle–if they gather 100,000 signatures.
Time to resurrect the dead.
My theory: Karl Rove doesn’t actually do anything. He just sits there, smiles cryptically, orders a pizza, etc., and lets the Left do his work for him.
(”He ordered it with anchovies! He’s causing something else to happen!!”)
Chris Matthews would be too speechless to ask questions from ALL of the warm feelings in his legs and elsewhere in the presence of both Obama and Hillery..
There are such things as the right questions and the wrong questions. How do you know them apart? Simple, if you ask a question and get attacked all over the place by people(?) screaming that you asked the wrong question; then you know you asked the right question.
I would think that MoveOn would want to stick with questions that avoid the issues. Just imagine how quickly Obama will sink in the polls when the non-quiche-eating parts of the country are finally exposed to his stands on the following:
1) War in Iraq: pull out in months no matter what the consequences are.
2) Taxes: raise them. And oh by the way, the rise in capital gains from 15% to 28% will hit everybody who owns a home. That’s right, that equity you think you have will be 28% lighter at close of escrow.
3) Missile defense, nuclear weapons, advanced weapons system: drastically cut or eliminated.
4) Supreme Court judges: will make Ruth Bader Ginsburg look like a right wing conservative by comparison.
Etc., etc.
Oh….my….God Patrick Chester, please tell me that Rove didn’t order the anchovie pizza!
It’s true that the debate focused more on the character of each candidate than the issues. Why is that? Because they’re almost exactly the same on the issues!
If they were asked the standard questions about Iraq, or housing bailouts, or Social Security, they’d sound basically the same. I read recently that primaries are more about character than positions, and this is a perfect example of that.
I think ABC did a good job of turning the heat up on the candidates and trying t find out what’s beneath the surface - which at this stage is what’s most important for the Democrats. When you have to candidates whose politics are essentially the same, you have to examine other things, like their pasts and how they do under fire.
So, let me see if I understand. Accusing Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, etc., etc., etc. of murder is not hurting America. But asking relevant questions of democrat politicians is?
Gotcha.
You know, I have to wonder why some people even bother to call themselves Americans any more. America is not just a piece of real estate, it’s an idea. When you openly despise the founding principles of this nation, can you still make the argument-logically-that you’re an American?
Can’t even ask tough questions these days without rabid liberals wanting to tear your head off for blasphemy.
Sounds similar to France recently with that one lady facing jail time and fines for “hate crimes” for speaking her mind and using her free speech to say that Muslims are hurting France. But then again most liberals would be overjoyed if our policies mirrored France’s. Be careful what you wish for, because the fires have just begun for our French friends and used against them by their own policies.
Perhaps we should fight fire with fire. If they want to deliver their “ultimatum,” we should jam phone lines, e-mail addresses and such, and let ABC know that this is what the American public wants to see. I can’t remember the last time I watched a Dem debate on the MSM and thought, “Wow, I can’t believe they’re actually asking that question.” I agree with post #7, maybe they finally get it??? Maybe??? Nah…
How did Steve Doocy get on the MoveOn.org sh-list? Because of the dust up between him and Wallace weeks ago?
Wallace practically kissed Fox & Friends butt this AM.
I don’t unnerstand the thinking…
If you don’t want to be associated with goofy preachers, don’t associate with goofy preachers.
If you don’t want to be associated with homegrown terrorists, don’t associate with homegrown terrorists.
If you don’t want to be associated with crooked real-estate dealers, don’t associate with crooked real-estate dealers.
If you want to blame the Media for anything, blame ‘em for not pulling the curtain back, before you fell in love with him.
The loony toony left, just don’t understand that their continual attempts to equate their real and proved treason with bona fide, “red white and blue” patriotism, just illustrates how pathetic, stupid, and disloyal they truly are!!!
By their actions you know them!!!
Hey look, Soemone finally agrees with Harry Reid….
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351647,00.html
I sent this into them today. after reading what was listed here. I wonder if i scared them. LOL…ROFLMAO….
Soros needs to hurry up and die - he is a cancer on mankind with his collectivist one-world views, and his corrption of economic and republican laws (republic as in the people retain inalienable rights, not as in the mob rule he presents).
At this point in the campaign, no one needs another rehash of policy. We’ve heard all that, and we can read it on the websites of the candidates. What we need to know is the character of the candidates. Obama’s character is being unveiled layer by layer. What is emerging is nothing but another leftie 60s wannabe, whose friends and associates are far outside the mainstream. THAT is what’s important to know at this stage, and ABC did a good job of bringing that out for the public to see.
The thought of people with this mindset running our country is truly horrifying.
Hey, did you hear about those two guys who actually questioned the candidates, Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulous. It’s like I miss those moderators who made love to the candidates on stage. Where’s the love Charlie, where’s that boyish laughter George.
The Times they are a changin.
LOL!!
Of course! You know, they are much funnier than we give them credit for!!
Reflecting back on the Clinton / Obama debate on ABC, the moderators asked the right questions and exposed or confirmed that Obama wants to take away our guns, raise our taxes and associates with weathermen terrorist and attends a church that is anti-American and preaches hate and racism.
But ABC failed to ask Obama about his association or support from another anti American organization, the cyber terrorist group that goes by the name of Moveon.org.
What really needs to happen with Soros, is investment rules need to be changed and his influence must be investigated by a bi-partisan commission.
When he is found in violation of the law, he needs to be prosecuted. I am sure there are countries in europe that can provide much needed evidence of this nuts corruption.
Obama didn’t call back. Obama throws garbage on the street. Obama does part time work as a childrens clown. Wheres the same love for Clinton?
Hi, newbie here..first post, here goes:
Just sent email to ABC thanking them for the great and enlightening PA debate.
Web search results say the show got high ratings too.
Maybe the day draws near when it won’t be so easy to be associated with the democrat party. ya think??
We already know where BO and HR stand on Iraq (leave, ASAP, regardless of the consequences) and the economy(raise taxes). No need to spend any further energy on those topics.
So why not spend time pointing out their deception while the two of them are still going at each other hammer and tong?
We know for a fact that once the libs have finally settled on their candidate that the MSM will circle the wagons and provide cover.
ABC and Fox are MSM first, last, and always. Forget “trust, but verify.” It should be “verify, only then trust.”
I really don’t know what their problem is with this debate. By the MSM’s standard in Republican debates, this one was stellar.
And to think that it was only a decade ago when liberals used to laugh and laugh at conservative premises regarding bias in the media…
What was it that Jeramiah Wright said about chickens?
Gaffe = When a politician accidentally says what they are really thinking.
Nothing in this political race makes sense anymore, so far we’ve seen;
Day = Night
Up = Down
1 + 1 = 3
Seems like we are going further off the rails too…someone please, some sanity.
When Obamaramadingdong announced that he wouldn’t participate in any more debates with Hitlery he said that it was pointless (I’m paraphrasing here) because he knows her lines and he’s sure that she can recite his.
Lines?…Lines?
Aha! So that’s why MoveOn.commies is so upset. Charlie and George adlibbed instead of sticking to the script.
This debate dealt with issues of character and Obamaramadingdong showed us what kinde of character he has. When the heat got turned up just a little he turned tail and ran away.
I saw on Newsbusters this morning that Georgia Stephanapolous has been declared “dead” on the YouTube video website declaring him “In Memoriam” for what he did at this “debate”. Ha, those liberals really know how to eat their young!
Kudos to you Michelle and Steve - good work!
Well now we have a snapshot of the super free country that they would provide the foundation for if elected. The American Taliban, wait till their convention, if you have any doubt about it you wont after that.
Hillary Clinton has been around going back to the days of Watergate. I know every thing about the Clintons and they aren’t much better than Obama. Both are socialist clowns.
I am still waiting for lgm’s take on this.
The silence is deafening.
I try to picture what would happen if this type of question was posed to George Bush. The lefties would be squealing in glee, pointing out how “stupid” or “out of touch with the American people” or (insert liberal mantra here) he is, etc.
Did they actually think that their highly flawed candidates were just going to get a free pass forever? Oh yeah, that whole liberal MSM thing. I guess ABC may have decided to become a real reporting organization again.
Is there any correlation between this newfound objectivity on the part of ABC and anybody’s hiring?
Clinton and Obama are both apparatchiks, with Moveon.org taking the place of the Communist party.
Bingo, well said tgusa. The American Taliban indeed. I’ve got my popcorn ready for the convention, it should be a hoot to see how much tear gas and tasers get used. They might even have to call in the National Guard to restore order. You know the same people they protest as baby killers and destroy their recruiting centers in the name of “peace”.