Comments on: Hard numbers: Illegal alien drunk drivers in North Carolina http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:34:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ITookTheRedPill http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-1180369 ITookTheRedPill Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:03:46 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-1180369 I know people who worked with one of the victims mentioned in the post above. Killed by a drunk-driving illegal alien like <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2011/09/02/90138/" rel="nofollow">Barry’s “Uncle Omar”.</a> I know people who worked with one of the victims mentioned in the post above.

Killed by a drunk-driving illegal alien like Barry’s “Uncle Omar”.

]]> By: Saturday’s Deadly Georgetown Accident « That’s Elbert With An E http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-313858 Saturday’s Deadly Georgetown Accident « That’s Elbert With An E Wed, 07 May 2008 13:02:54 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-313858 [...] Malkin has reported about problems with illegals killing American citizens here and here. The latter post was about a widely reported story involving a school bus accident. Not [...] [...] Malkin has reported about problems with illegals killing American citizens here and here. The latter post was about a widely reported story involving a school bus accident. Not [...]

]]> By: Jimmie http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-294989 Jimmie Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:18:21 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-294989 Under our present rules (because this is how it works now) We force illegals to buy phony ID’s…drivers licenses and Soc. Sec. Cards. There is NO OTHER OPTION. These things cost upwards of $500, expensive but as noted there is no other option. So when caught in a criminal act the non citizen has the option of moving to another area, you can’t track phony ID’s, or just throw away the one ID and become some other illegal person. We will not allow illegals to study our driving laws, …it is serious trouble ( for anyone else) in to drive drunk and kill someone but under our rules, you can just change who you are. So the illegals have many more “rights” than citizens. Not only the right to drive drunk, but the right to vote as many times as they wish. And this is the thing…as long as these illegals use their right to vote, and to vote often, for the Democrat party nothing is going to change the rules. Spend Billions on fences….take in to TEMPORARY custody a few chicken pluckers, and all that will really happen is the price of chicken will go up…what a plan….Billions of dollars just so we can pay more for chicken…… Under our present rules (because this is how it works now) We force illegals to buy phony ID’s…drivers licenses and Soc. Sec. Cards. There is NO OTHER OPTION. These things cost upwards of $500, expensive but as noted there is no other option. So when caught in a criminal act the non citizen has the option of moving to another area, you can’t track phony ID’s, or just throw away the one ID and become some other illegal person. We will not allow illegals to study our driving laws, …it is serious trouble ( for anyone else) in to drive drunk and kill someone but under our rules, you can just change who you are. So the illegals have many more “rights” than citizens. Not only the right to drive drunk, but the right to vote as many times as they wish. And this is the thing…as long as these illegals use their right to vote, and to vote often, for the Democrat party nothing is going to change the rules. Spend Billions on fences….take in to TEMPORARY custody a few chicken pluckers, and all that will really happen is the price of chicken will go up…what a plan….Billions of dollars just so we can pay more for chicken……

]]> By: jhn1 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-294444 jhn1 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:27:11 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-294444 to 107 and 108 You are missing their point. The statistics claim that on an averaged basis, immigrants, legal and illegal combined, are just as law-abiding as citizens. If the statisticians were not deliberately conflating two disparate groups, then you would not only show that the illegals are just as large a problem as most of us say here, but the legal immigrants are being used to cover for just how bad the illegals are as well as not receiving their deserved credit for how much benefit to the US the <strong>legal</strong> variant of immigrant is. What was being complained about was the deliberate mixing of two different groups to achieve a maliciously reduced picture of illegal activity. Ummm Eagle Scouts and MS-13 members. On an averaged basis, ... to 107 and 108

You are missing their point.
The statistics claim that on an averaged basis, immigrants, legal and illegal combined, are just as law-abiding as citizens.
If the statisticians were not deliberately conflating two disparate groups, then you would not only show that the illegals are just as large a problem as most of us say here, but the legal immigrants are being used to cover for just how bad the illegals are as well as not receiving their deserved credit for how much benefit to the US the legal variant of immigrant is.
What was being complained about was the deliberate mixing of two different groups to achieve a maliciously reduced picture of illegal activity.
Ummm
Eagle Scouts and MS-13 members.
On an averaged basis, …

]]> By: Follow Up On Possible Illegal Alien Killing A 7 Year Old » Pirate’s Cove — Global Warming Rules! http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-294191 Follow Up On Possible Illegal Alien Killing A 7 Year Old » Pirate’s Cove — Global Warming Rules! Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:46:07 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-294191 [...] update: Michelle Malkin notices the story, and how many illegals are driving drunk in North Carolina. I had planned the [...] [...] update: Michelle Malkin notices the story, and how many illegals are driving drunk in North Carolina. I had planned the [...]

]]> By: reine.de.tout http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-294156 reine.de.tout Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:03:13 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-294156 <blockquote>On April 20th, 2008 at 2:00 am, Patriot1 said: ...you have illegals committing WAY more crimes than any US citizen Even one crime committed by someone who should not be here in the first place is one too many</blockquote> And the first crime they commit is . . . coming here illegally. <strong>Every</strong> illegal has committed at least one crime. So, to the person you quoted who said: <em>"Maybe North Carolina could do a study like they did here in AZ. They found that IMMIGRANTS did not commit crimes at any greater percentage than citizens. However, they didn’t split them up between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. OHHHH WELLLL, no difference HUH???"</em> Baloney! 100% of illegal "immigrants" have committed a crime - that is a WAY higher percentage than citizen crime.

On April 20th, 2008 at 2:00 am, Patriot1 said: …you have illegals committing WAY more crimes than any US citizen

Even one crime committed by someone who should not be here in the first place is one too many

And the first crime they commit is . . . coming here illegally. Every illegal has committed at least one crime. So, to the person you quoted who said: “Maybe North Carolina could do a study like they did here in AZ. They found that IMMIGRANTS did not commit crimes at any greater percentage than citizens. However, they didn’t split them up between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. OHHHH WELLLL, no difference HUH???”

Baloney! 100% of illegal “immigrants” have committed a crime – that is a WAY higher percentage than citizen crime.

]]> By: Patriot1 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293941 Patriot1 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:00:50 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293941 <blockquote>Maybe North Carolina could do a study like they did here in AZ. They found that IMMIGRANTS did not commit crimes at any greater percentage than citizens. However, they didn’t split them up between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. OHHHH WELLLL, no difference HUH???</blockquote> oh really? if you count ID theft, SS# theft, tax evasion, and counterfeit documents all felonies btw you have illegals committing WAY more crimes than any US citizen Even one crime committed by someone who should not be here in the first place is one too many.

Maybe North Carolina could do a study like they did here in AZ. They found that IMMIGRANTS did not commit crimes at any greater percentage than citizens. However, they didn’t split them up between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. OHHHH WELLLL, no difference HUH???

oh really? if you count ID theft, SS# theft, tax evasion, and counterfeit documents

all felonies btw

you have illegals committing WAY more crimes than any US citizen

Even one crime committed by someone who should not be here in the first place is one too many.

]]> By: josetheguerilla http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293877 josetheguerilla Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:03:11 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293877 <blockquote>And I’ll add yet another one: All law breaking Americans, who hire an illegal alien drunk driver should be charge as <em>an accessory to Murder.</em> Don’t forget about the 7-year old boy killed in this case. What if he were your child?</blockquote> Okay, I think I went overboard here. It should read "All law-breaking Americans who hire illegal alien drunk drivers should be held accountable to the full extent of the current laws. The guerilla

And I’ll add yet another one: All law breaking Americans, who hire an illegal alien drunk driver should be charge as an accessory to Murder. Don’t forget about the 7-year old boy killed in this case. What if he were your child?

Okay, I think I went overboard here. It should read “All law-breaking Americans who hire illegal alien drunk drivers should be held accountable to the full extent of the current laws.

The guerilla

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » No, I’m not Bill Maher http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293818 Michelle Malkin » No, I’m not Bill Maher Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:48:35 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293818 [...] of compassion for families torn apart, I still haven’t heard anything from Los Angeles Cardinal Roger [...] [...] of compassion for families torn apart, I still haven’t heard anything from Los Angeles Cardinal Roger [...]

]]> By: TMoney http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293790 TMoney Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:23:17 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293790 Sheriff Bizell, meet Sheriff Arpaio. Patriots of a feather. Sheriff Bizell, meet Sheriff Arpaio.

Patriots of a feather.

]]> By: eeyore http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293787 eeyore Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:15:02 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293787 Hey, it's been even worse. A few years ago, an NC officer (I don't remember if it was Raleigh, Wake Co, or HP) was diciplined for racial profiling when <em>23%</em> of his DUI arrests were Hispanic and they were only <em>11%</em> of the population (in whichever jurisdiction) was. The diciplinary action stuck even though it was pointed out that <em><strong>24%</strong></em> of DUI accidents there involved Hispanics. Nope, still profiling. I even heard an "Hispanic Rights Activist" say on the radio that Mexicans shouldn't even be arrested for drunk driving - "Driving drunk is not a big deal in Mexico, so it's <strong>unfair </strong>to expect them to know differently here..." Hey, it’s been even worse. A few years ago, an NC officer (I don’t remember if it was Raleigh, Wake Co, or HP) was diciplined for racial profiling when 23% of his DUI arrests were Hispanic and they were only 11% of the population (in whichever jurisdiction) was.

The diciplinary action stuck even though it was pointed out that 24% of DUI accidents there involved Hispanics. Nope, still profiling.

I even heard an “Hispanic Rights Activist” say on the radio that Mexicans shouldn’t even be arrested for drunk driving – “Driving drunk is not a big deal in Mexico, so it’s unfair to expect them to know differently here…”

]]> By: TXRose http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293779 TXRose Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:47:23 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293779 redundancy alert....either inebriated or drunken but not both. Sorry. redundancy alert….either inebriated or drunken but not both. Sorry.

]]> By: TXRose http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293778 TXRose Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:46:39 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293778 Just ran into a friend at the store and she told me that one of her sisters was hit by an inebriated drunken driver and her suv rolled twice. She was hanging upside down in her seatbelt and was unconscious. An onlooker told her, later that some people from CA stopped to help and when the emts got there, they took them to the illegals van (packed with a bunch of people that ran off, this being in South TX) and had them help him first. He wasn't hurt, just trapped but they insisted he must go to the hospital. By this time a policeman got between the moonbats and their "victim" and told the emts to go help the woman in the suv. The Californians went ballistic and started to scream racism and profiling when he hauled the driver out and put him in his unit. The "victim" realized that he had friends in the area and promptly refused to cooperate. The onlooker that talked to her later at the hospital left his information so she could give it to her insurance company. He said almost the same thing had happened to one of his employees and he was tired of this c&*p. He said he was going to withhold donations and convince his friends to do the same until lawmakers and law enforcement started to run these people ( meaning illegals) in. He also said that the lalalanders kept on and on until they, too, were arrested. Needless to say, no DL, no insurance, no can find the perpetrator. Just ran into a friend at the store and she told me that one of her sisters was hit
by an inebriated drunken driver and her suv rolled twice. She was hanging upside down in her seatbelt and was unconscious. An onlooker told her, later
that some people from CA stopped to help and when the emts got there, they
took them to the illegals van (packed with a bunch of people that ran off, this
being in South TX) and had them help him first. He wasn’t hurt, just trapped but
they insisted he must go to the hospital. By this time a policeman got between
the moonbats and their “victim” and told the emts to go help the woman in the
suv. The Californians went ballistic and started to scream racism and profiling
when he hauled the driver out and put him in his unit. The “victim” realized that he had friends in the area and promptly refused to cooperate. The onlooker that talked to her later at the hospital left his information so she could give it to her insurance company. He said almost the same thing had
happened to one of his employees and he was tired of this c&*p. He said he
was going to withhold donations and convince his friends to do the same until
lawmakers and law enforcement started to run these people ( meaning illegals)
in. He also said that the lalalanders kept on and on until they, too, were
arrested. Needless to say, no DL, no insurance, no can find the perpetrator.

]]> By: zorro http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293769 zorro Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:09:04 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293769 <blockquote>JohnFLob: If you are indeed against illegal aliens and want law enforcement at all levels to deport them and keep them out then I apologize.</blockquote> Thank you and accepted. I too would like to apoligize to you as well. And thanks for the kind words guerilla, it means a lot.

JohnFLob: If you are indeed against illegal aliens and want law enforcement at all levels to deport them and keep them out then I apologize.

Thank you and accepted. I too would like to apoligize to you as well.

And thanks for the kind words guerilla, it means a lot.

]]> By: terristeelmagnolia http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/comment-page-2/#comment-293765 terristeelmagnolia Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:59:06 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/19/hard-numbers-illegal-alien-drunk-drivers-in-north-carolina/#comment-293765 husband WAS rear ended.... husband WAS rear ended….

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