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	<title>Comments on: LA Times Goes Wall-to-Wall on Special Order 40</title>
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		<title>By: jhn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jhn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grape Ape said: I keep bringing up the savings that elimination of ESL and Spanish only classes would bring.

Not Legal in Illinois. The Spanish only classes are mandatory for children whose parents want them.

Decades ago the legislature passed requirements that a child be taught in whatever language the parents wanted.
IIRC it came out when a consulate head in Chicago had listed an odd language native to his country, but not even the official language there. Only qualified teacher in that language in state was TAAA DAAA...
the mother. She got paid to tutor her own progeny in the aforementioned strange language. Stipends were furnished to buy textbooks. And what made it a news-worthy item was that after a few years the aforementioned foreign citizen and consulate progeny had no knowledge of the language Mommy was being paid to teach.
She wasn&#039;t teaching it, and no textbooks had ever been bought for that language.
ESL classes at least offer an illegal (or anchor baby) a chance to be Americanized so parents not wanting the children to become Americans in culture make sure that they keep those kids in foreign language classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grape Ape said: I keep bringing up the savings that elimination of ESL and Spanish only classes would bring.</p>
<p>Not Legal in Illinois. The Spanish only classes are mandatory for children whose parents want them.</p>
<p>Decades ago the legislature passed requirements that a child be taught in whatever language the parents wanted.<br />
IIRC it came out when a consulate head in Chicago had listed an odd language native to his country, but not even the official language there. Only qualified teacher in that language in state was TAAA DAAA&#8230;<br />
the mother. She got paid to tutor her own progeny in the aforementioned strange language. Stipends were furnished to buy textbooks. And what made it a news-worthy item was that after a few years the aforementioned foreign citizen and consulate progeny had no knowledge of the language Mommy was being paid to teach.<br />
She wasn&#8217;t teaching it, and no textbooks had ever been bought for that language.<br />
ESL classes at least offer an illegal (or anchor baby) a chance to be Americanized so parents not wanting the children to become Americans in culture make sure that they keep those kids in foreign language classes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chard402003</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chard402003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to achieve any change to Special Order 40, the public needs to keep the pressure up. The government of Los Angeles is solidly in favor of illegal immigation for political purposes, whether those &quot;immigrants&quot; are gang bangers or day laborers. I do not believe this reflects the local public view. If the City believes the issue will die down, the city government will take the opportunity to do nothing. (Odd, I usually prefer the government do nothing - but not in this case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to achieve any change to Special Order 40, the public needs to keep the pressure up. The government of Los Angeles is solidly in favor of illegal immigation for political purposes, whether those &#8220;immigrants&#8221; are gang bangers or day laborers. I do not believe this reflects the local public view. If the City believes the issue will die down, the city government will take the opportunity to do nothing. (Odd, I usually prefer the government do nothing &#8211; but not in this case).</p>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...the open-borders lobby tries so hard to smear all border-security types...make us radioactive and prevent the formation of these winning coalitions.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A great point that must not go unnoticed, as it is the main reason the open-borders crowd as been able to keep illegal immigrate laws from being enforced for such a long time.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It’s a fine line we’ll need to walk between expressing our justified outrage ...but tempering our zeal with humility and charity where it’s appropriate.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good advice for all those who care enough to take-up this issue and join the fight to secure our borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;the open-borders lobby tries so hard to smear all border-security types&#8230;make us radioactive and prevent the formation of these winning coalitions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A great point that must not go unnoticed, as it is the main reason the open-borders crowd as been able to keep illegal immigrate laws from being enforced for such a long time.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It’s a fine line we’ll need to walk between expressing our justified outrage &#8230;but tempering our zeal with humility and charity where it’s appropriate.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Good advice for all those who care enough to take-up this issue and join the fight to secure our borders.</p>
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		<title>By: kardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>kardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I&#039;m an idiot. I mean an amnesty bounty. Ok then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m an idiot. I mean an amnesty bounty. Ok then.</p>
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		<title>By: kardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>kardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we offered citizenship to anyone who can provide information that leads to the arrest, conviction and deportation of gang members. This would of course extend to the informants immediate family. Kind of like an amnesty ransom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we offered citizenship to anyone who can provide information that leads to the arrest, conviction and deportation of gang members. This would of course extend to the informants immediate family. Kind of like an amnesty ransom.</p>
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		<title>By: gunslingerpatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>gunslingerpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the LA prosecutor has been stuck in Berkley helping the incompetent city council come up with legal ways to discriminate against the UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

Gotta give a shout out to the Devil Dogs-OOORAH!

GSP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the LA prosecutor has been stuck in Berkley helping the incompetent city council come up with legal ways to discriminate against the UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.</p>
<p>Gotta give a shout out to the Devil Dogs-OOORAH!</p>
<p>GSP</p>
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		<title>By: rworks</title>
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		<dc:creator>rworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why has SO 40 been allowed to continue?

Isn&#039;t it against federal law to hinder or obstruct ICE?

Exactly where has the federal prosecutor responsible for LA been?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has SO 40 been allowed to continue?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it against federal law to hinder or obstruct ICE?</p>
<p>Exactly where has the federal prosecutor responsible for LA been?</p>
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		<title>By: fred5676</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred5676</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On April 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, jhn1 said:

... The fine is part of a legal process to make the crimes you have committed be unchargeable in any court in the land, and tends to be interpretable to judges to strip off any limitations (felons, child molesters, disease carriers, deadbeats, and gang members that might be put into the legalization bill.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And those &quot;undocumented workers&quot; who have either:

1. been paid in cash and avoided all taxes (the IRS frowns on this)

2. used an unassigned social security number - a $250,000 fine

3. used a stolen social security number - a felony

Anybody left???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On April 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, jhn1 said:</p>
<p>&#8230; The fine is part of a legal process to make the crimes you have committed be unchargeable in any court in the land, and tends to be interpretable to judges to strip off any limitations (felons, child molesters, disease carriers, deadbeats, and gang members that might be put into the legalization bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>And those &#8220;undocumented workers&#8221; who have either:</p>
<p>1. been paid in cash and avoided all taxes (the IRS frowns on this)</p>
<p>2. used an unassigned social security number &#8211; a $250,000 fine</p>
<p>3. used a stolen social security number &#8211; a felony</p>
<p>Anybody left???</p>
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		<title>By: fred5676</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred5676</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On April 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, jhn1 said:

#22 fred5676

    Question 2) 2. What is the difference between:
    a) charging a fine of $3000 AFTER illegally crossing our border, and
    b) a Border Patrol agent charging a $3000 bribe BEFORE crossing the border?? ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No fair skipping question #1 and the follow-up!! Tsk. Tsk.


&lt;blockquote&gt;... The fine is part of a legal process to make the crimes you have committed be unchargeable in any court in the land &lt;strong&gt;and to REWARD the criminal with his ill-gotten goods&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

FIFY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On April 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, jhn1 said:</p>
<p>#22 fred5676</p>
<p>    Question 2) 2. What is the difference between:<br />
    a) charging a fine of $3000 AFTER illegally crossing our border, and<br />
    b) a Border Patrol agent charging a $3000 bribe BEFORE crossing the border?? &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>No fair skipping question #1 and the follow-up!! Tsk. Tsk.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; The fine is part of a legal process to make the crimes you have committed be unchargeable in any court in the land <strong>and to REWARD the criminal with his ill-gotten goods</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>FIFY.</p>
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		<title>By: Cop The Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cop The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Deport All Criminal Aliens...&lt;/strong&gt;

It amazes me that, with the emerging threat of terrorism and IED&#039;s in America, with the growing loss of life to violent crime and even accidents, with the terrifying rise of violent street gangs like MS-13, we still cannot agree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Deport All Criminal Aliens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>It amazes me that, with the emerging threat of terrorism and IED&#8217;s in America, with the growing loss of life to violent crime and even accidents, with the terrifying rise of violent street gangs like MS-13, we still cannot agree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Micheleeroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheleeroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pray that Jamiel&#039;s Law passes. God bless these parents for trying to do something helpful for the whole nation in memory of their beautiful son. I so wish he were still among us. And I hope L.A.&#039;s leaders, including the City Attorney, crusade for passage of Jamiel&#039;s Law!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pray that Jamiel&#8217;s Law passes. God bless these parents for trying to do something helpful for the whole nation in memory of their beautiful son. I so wish he were still among us. And I hope L.A.&#8217;s leaders, including the City Attorney, crusade for passage of Jamiel&#8217;s Law!</p>
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		<title>By: Grape Ape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grape Ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to strongly agree with thefoundingfathers #11 post !

I live in a Chicago &quot;collar county&quot; that&#039;s being overrun by illegal aliens. Every year we have a different school district bringing up a referendum for more money because of class sizes.

I&#039;ve gotten booted from the on-line forums of our local Liberal bird cage liner 7 times because I keep bringing up the savings that elimination of ESL and Spanish only classes would bring.

Plain as the nose on your face type of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to strongly agree with thefoundingfathers #11 post !</p>
<p>I live in a Chicago &#8220;collar county&#8221; that&#8217;s being overrun by illegal aliens. Every year we have a different school district bringing up a referendum for more money because of class sizes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten booted from the on-line forums of our local Liberal bird cage liner 7 times because I keep bringing up the savings that elimination of ESL and Spanish only classes would bring.</p>
<p>Plain as the nose on your face type of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn red</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklyn red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maisy ... my first reaction was as yours... but I hate to say, it seems like most if not all in Chicago are err, shall we say, home grown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maisy &#8230; my first reaction was as yours&#8230; but I hate to say, it seems like most if not all in Chicago are err, shall we say, home grown.</p>
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		<title>By: maisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>maisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should be impeached for what he did to those  border agents,...as well as complicity in the murder of Jamiel Shaw and others........
Multiculturalism ain&#039;t it special???
&lt;strong&gt;Bloody Weekend: 32 Shot, 2 Stabbed, 6 Dead
CHICAGO (CBS) ― A violent and deadly weekend continues in Chicago. At least 12 people have been shot, two of them killed, since Saturday morning. Two others were stabbed in a home invasion. This comes after at least 20 people were shot, four of them killed, from Friday night through early Saturday. &lt;/strong&gt;
gang related...&lt;blockquote&gt;ya think????&lt;/blockquote&gt; Thanks George and Geraldo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should be impeached for what he did to those  border agents,&#8230;as well as complicity in the murder of Jamiel Shaw and others&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
Multiculturalism ain&#8217;t it special???<br />
<strong>Bloody Weekend: 32 Shot, 2 Stabbed, 6 Dead<br />
CHICAGO (CBS) ― A violent and deadly weekend continues in Chicago. At least 12 people have been shot, two of them killed, since Saturday morning. Two others were stabbed in a home invasion. This comes after at least 20 people were shot, four of them killed, from Friday night through early Saturday. </strong><br />
gang related&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>ya think????</p></blockquote>
<p> Thanks George and Geraldo!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brooklyn red #21 I always enjoy reading your posts.

How many of you are getting fed up with the &quot;Iraq war is bankrupting us&quot; diatribe?

Verified stats:

Iraq $125 billion

Illegal aliens: $$$$$  338.3 billion!!!!!$$$$

welfare
med.
ed.
prison expenses
$$$ sent to Mexico 
and etc. etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brooklyn red #21 I always enjoy reading your posts.</p>
<p>How many of you are getting fed up with the &#8220;Iraq war is bankrupting us&#8221; diatribe?</p>
<p>Verified stats:</p>
<p>Iraq $125 billion</p>
<p>Illegal aliens: $$$$$  338.3 billion!!!!!$$$$</p>
<p>welfare<br />
med.<br />
ed.<br />
prison expenses<br />
$$$ sent to Mexico<br />
and etc. etc. etc.</p>
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