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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-357174</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm, lgm said:

Operation Gatekeeper is “credited” with causing over 400 deaths. Some dumb Christians might consider that a drawback, as I do. I admire an organization, even the ACLU, that acts to prevent needless death. The punishment for illegal border crossing should not be death any more than it is the punishment for burglary or perjury.

The ACLU has a better idea of basic American values than MM in this case. Don’t kill people for minor crimes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Aside from the undeniable communist/socialist/pacifist origins of this ignoble group, let us parse your statements:

1) &quot;Operation Gatekeeper is “credited” with causing over 400 deaths. Some dumb Christians might consider that a drawback, as I do.&quot;  If one chooses to invade a country, is that country responsible for what happens to the invader?  Do you ever {dare) call Muslims, and in particular, Islamofascists, &quot;dumb?&quot;

2) &quot;I admire an organization, even the ACLU, that acts to prevent needless death.&quot;  You mean that the ACLU has come out against needless, elective abortions of convenience?  If so, I stand corrected.

3) &quot;The punishment for illegal border crossing should not be death any more than it is the punishment for burglary or perjury.&quot;  You might explain that to Mexico, who simultaneously enforces their southern border with an iron fist, but slips on the velvet glove when gently pushing its citizens over their northern border.

4) &quot;The ACLU has a better idea of basic American values than MM in this case. Don’t kill people for minor crimes.  Yeah, I remember the strong stand they took on the Kelo case (howls of derisive laughter).  Really supported that basic right of a U.S. citizen to own his/her own property without unwarranted seizure by the government.

Basic American values include safe, secure borders and and expectation that this is a country of laws and said laws serve a purpose, as do borders.  

What &quot;American values&quot; are you insinuating: compassion for our neighbors to the south?  Okay, when we absorb all of them, should we feel compassion for the poor of China?  India? Africa? (insert country here)?

Does it ever stop?  Does even the omniscient lgm think that there is a point when we become what they are trying to leave behind?  

Oh yeah, I guess I am the selfish one.  I&#039;ll remember that then next time I hear a story of how little (if anything) Obama, Gore, Kerry etc., gave to charity compared to me (on a percentage basis, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm, lgm said:</p>
<p>Operation Gatekeeper is “credited” with causing over 400 deaths. Some dumb Christians might consider that a drawback, as I do. I admire an organization, even the ACLU, that acts to prevent needless death. The punishment for illegal border crossing should not be death any more than it is the punishment for burglary or perjury.</p>
<p>The ACLU has a better idea of basic American values than MM in this case. Don’t kill people for minor crimes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Aside from the undeniable communist/socialist/pacifist origins of this ignoble group, let us parse your statements:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Operation Gatekeeper is “credited” with causing over 400 deaths. Some dumb Christians might consider that a drawback, as I do.&#8221;  If one chooses to invade a country, is that country responsible for what happens to the invader?  Do you ever {dare) call Muslims, and in particular, Islamofascists, &#8220;dumb?&#8221;</p>
<p>2) &#8220;I admire an organization, even the ACLU, that acts to prevent needless death.&#8221;  You mean that the ACLU has come out against needless, elective abortions of convenience?  If so, I stand corrected.</p>
<p>3) &#8220;The punishment for illegal border crossing should not be death any more than it is the punishment for burglary or perjury.&#8221;  You might explain that to Mexico, who simultaneously enforces their southern border with an iron fist, but slips on the velvet glove when gently pushing its citizens over their northern border.</p>
<p>4) &#8220;The ACLU has a better idea of basic American values than MM in this case. Don’t kill people for minor crimes.  Yeah, I remember the strong stand they took on the Kelo case (howls of derisive laughter).  Really supported that basic right of a U.S. citizen to own his/her own property without unwarranted seizure by the government.</p>
<p>Basic American values include safe, secure borders and and expectation that this is a country of laws and said laws serve a purpose, as do borders.  </p>
<p>What &#8220;American values&#8221; are you insinuating: compassion for our neighbors to the south?  Okay, when we absorb all of them, should we feel compassion for the poor of China?  India? Africa? (insert country here)?</p>
<p>Does it ever stop?  Does even the omniscient lgm think that there is a point when we become what they are trying to leave behind?  </p>
<p>Oh yeah, I guess I am the selfish one.  I&#8217;ll remember that then next time I hear a story of how little (if anything) Obama, Gore, Kerry etc., gave to charity compared to me (on a percentage basis, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Illegals ask sheriff&#8217;s office for ride home to Mexico</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-300561</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Illegals ask sheriff&#8217;s office for ride home to Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m sure the ACLU will be filing a protest against the law enforcement officers ASAP. They can&#8217;t let this stand! It&#8217;s not part of the plan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m sure the ACLU will be filing a protest against the law enforcement officers ASAP. They can&#8217;t let this stand! It&#8217;s not part of the plan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ZK</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-299746</link>
		<dc:creator>ZK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A&lt;/strong&gt;nnoying
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		<title>By: jt3151</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-299711</link>
		<dc:creator>jt3151</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately this will continue until our next 9/11…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Touché pal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

..and beyond. On September 11, I actually believed that the silver lining was that we would finally unite as a country, because we had a common enemy. I had NO IDEA how loony the left is. It has been a sad education for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately this will continue until our next 9/11…</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Touché pal.</p></blockquote>
<p>..and beyond. On September 11, I actually believed that the silver lining was that we would finally unite as a country, because we had a common enemy. I had NO IDEA how loony the left is. It has been a sad education for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Chowda</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-299629</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Chowda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for the &lt;strike&gt;A&lt;/strike&gt;CLU to sue the United States for killing Nazis during WWII.  After all, everyone does have human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for the <strike>A</strike>CLU to sue the United States for killing Nazis during WWII.  After all, everyone does have human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: CLU&#8230;drop the A &#171;</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-299539</link>
		<dc:creator>CLU&#8230;drop the A &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the&#160;A  Below is from Michelle Malkin&#8217;s site regarding the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) are now protecting Mexicans as well, drop the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the&nbsp;A  Below is from Michelle Malkin&#8217;s site regarding the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) are now protecting Mexicans as well, drop the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-298697</link>
		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The agreement was developed in reaction to the continually mounting death toll of now more than 5,000 migrants along the border&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well boo-freakin&#039;-hoo!  Here&#039;s a really &quot;novel&quot; solution:  maybe they should try staying on their own side of the border.  What a concept!  Here&#039;s the angle/tagline:  &quot;Border enforcement saves lives&quot;.  

&#039;Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The agreement was developed in reaction to the continually mounting death toll of now more than 5,000 migrants along the border</p></blockquote>
<p>Well boo-freakin&#8217;-hoo!  Here&#8217;s a really &#8220;novel&#8221; solution:  maybe they should try staying on their own side of the border.  What a concept!  Here&#8217;s the angle/tagline:  &#8220;Border enforcement saves lives&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8216;Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-2/#comment-298692</link>
		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with this Mexican government where they can&#039;t provide a first world economy and they have to depend on other nations to create jobs for its citizens? As others have said no one forces them to cross the desert and they should spend their energy on forcing the government to clean up its act. President Fox at one time even asked Prime Minister Harper if he could absorb some of his people in Canada but I never heard what Harper said in reply. Its time these Latin American governments to be on their own instead of importing their third world status to other nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with this Mexican government where they can&#8217;t provide a first world economy and they have to depend on other nations to create jobs for its citizens? As others have said no one forces them to cross the desert and they should spend their energy on forcing the government to clean up its act. President Fox at one time even asked Prime Minister Harper if he could absorb some of his people in Canada but I never heard what Harper said in reply. Its time these Latin American governments to be on their own instead of importing their third world status to other nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Vntnrse</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298679</link>
		<dc:creator>Vntnrse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, ya know I haven&#039;t heard a word about this on any of the news channels here in San Diego county, either!  HERE is where I get real news that effects my life!  Thank you Michelle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, ya know I haven&#8217;t heard a word about this on any of the news channels here in San Diego county, either!  HERE is where I get real news that effects my life!  Thank you Michelle!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298656</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU suing for illegal invaders now? What, couldn&#039;t they find anymore terrorist to set free? Are they going to sue the constitution next or are grandma and apple pie next on the agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU suing for illegal invaders now? What, couldn&#8217;t they find anymore terrorist to set free? Are they going to sue the constitution next or are grandma and apple pie next on the agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Tiger</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298617</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...where migrants face much harsher conditions in remote, environmentally hostile areas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, Pedro.  I don&#039;t know how to say it in Spanish, but &quot;Mother Nature eeeeesss a beeeeeetch!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;where migrants face much harsher conditions in remote, environmentally hostile areas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, Pedro.  I don&#8217;t know how to say it in Spanish, but &#8220;Mother Nature eeeeesss a beeeeeetch!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cicerokid</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298594</link>
		<dc:creator>cicerokid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post 89 &quot; Short of the ACLU manning watering stations along the border...&quot; 

The pope already has that one covered.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post 89 &#8221; Short of the ACLU manning watering stations along the border&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>The pope already has that one covered.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckaroo</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298571</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sneak the amnesty bill through in the dead of night&quot;

   um, i thought it was during the day, and regardless, IT FAILED ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sneak the amnesty bill through in the dead of night&#8221;</p>
<p>   um, i thought it was during the day, and regardless, IT FAILED &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rightisright</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298525</link>
		<dc:creator>rightisright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm, Buckaroo said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“JSM would go along with a democratic congress, and a republican congress would feel obligated to go along with amnesty juan”

pls. back up EITHER wild assertion with anything resembling a fact …
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe his past actions like trying to sneak the amnesty bill through in the dead of night....calling us &quot;bigots&quot; &quot;racists&quot; and telling us to &quot;shut-up&quot;...makes me think he would gladly go along with amnesty no matter what party controlled congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm, Buckaroo said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“JSM would go along with a democratic congress, and a republican congress would feel obligated to go along with amnesty juan”</p>
<p>pls. back up EITHER wild assertion with anything resembling a fact …
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<p>Maybe his past actions like trying to sneak the amnesty bill through in the dead of night&#8230;.calling us &#8220;bigots&#8221; &#8220;racists&#8221; and telling us to &#8220;shut-up&#8221;&#8230;makes me think he would gladly go along with amnesty no matter what party controlled congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/aclu-should-just-drop-the-a/comment-page-1/#comment-298457</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the real start of issues with the ACLU began when California decided it was OK for a non-profit lawyer to collect legal fees when sueing the government.  This one legislative action has supplied the ACLU with cash and desire to sue in every direction for the money.  A far cry from the days of volunteer work, and valid causes of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the real start of issues with the ACLU began when California decided it was OK for a non-profit lawyer to collect legal fees when sueing the government.  This one legislative action has supplied the ACLU with cash and desire to sue in every direction for the money.  A far cry from the days of volunteer work, and valid causes of the past.</p>
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