The GOP ad John McCain doesn’t want you to see

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 23, 2008 02:50 PM

What is the big freaking’ deal? The RNC and John McCain are spanking the North Carolina GOP for running an ad against the state’s Democrat gubernatorial candidates titled “Extreme.” It points out Barack Obama’s longtime association with America-basher Jeremiah Wright, notes that both Dem candidates have endorsed Obama, and deems them too radical for voters. Here’s the ad:

McCain is demanding that the ad be withdrawn (via ABC News, hat tip- Allah):

“I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,” said McCain in a letter to the North Carolina Republican Party Chair Linda Davis.

McCain demanded that Davis discontinue plans to run the ad: “It is imperative that you withdraw this offensive advertisement.”

The RNC sniffed that the ad was “Not appropriate and unhelpful.”

Hey, neither’s watching GOP standard-bearers making nice with Nancy Pelosi on a couch or making utter fools of their out-of-touch selves.

But I digress.

Some McCain supporters are spinning the disavowal of the ad as a masterful strategy to stay above the fray.

Nonsense. It’s an idiotic strategy to convince more rank-and-file Republicans to stop giving money to the Beltway GOP elite.

Here’s the NC GOP website. They’re asking for support. Help ‘em out if you can.

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  1. #298350
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm, Donut44 said:

    A third party candidate stands no chance in this election, but a fourth party candidate does! Let’s keep this Obama/Clinton machine rolling as long as possible. We can only hope the Clinton steal this election and the Obamians get pissed enough to put up someone else. Then we can too and have a good ‘ol four person race.

  2. #298353
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    #99…LOL
    Excellent, Bruce! VERY strong!

    No need for this milquetoast sit-it-out kind of protest. I am right there with you. (Besides, I need to go to the polls so I can vote for all the downticket GOP candidates, even the ones who don’t deserve it.)

  3. #298356
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    Last post today from me and on this subject period. As Jim M said above Buckaroo, your only argument for voting for mcamnesty is “at least he is a republican”. Rather than attack everyone who is looking at mccain’s body of work over the last few years and deciding he is nothing but a liberal, convince us. As Jim M said, “Heck, you may even want to try something novel and string together some facts wrapped in some logic to actually proffer a rational thought.” Have good evening all.

  4. #298360
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm, Bruce said:

    Just thinking about John McCain makes me want to puke.

    I despise McCain more than I despise Clinton or Obama. That’s why I have committed to being a suicide voter in November. Not only will I NOT vote for McCain, I will vote AGAINST him by voting for the Democrat.

    I have never voted for a Democrat before, so I am attending a suicide voter training camp to prepare for my mission.

    Funny thing is, I said something along those lines just a few minutes ago in another post. The exception was that I’m not voting FOR McCain I’m voting AGAINST Obama or Hillary. (you know to at least feel good that I voted and did something)
    I had tossed around another option though, that depending on what he’s [McCain]“COMMITTED” to come election day, I may vote Democrat. The thought process behind that is, that if someone is going to screw this country even worse then it is, I’d prefer it be a Democrat. At least it may save the Republican party for not being the smoking gun.

  5. #298361
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Chief RZ said:

    John is taking the high road, which is where we need to keep our focus, on the President of the United States, what it means and what it should be.
    If the NC GOP wants to run an ad, they can, but I would suggest Barrack’s association with the terrorist, Ayers.

  6. #298365
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, AlanKeyesForLife said:

    Bruce..Would that be Part 2 of Operation Chaos? You may not of “Thought” you were voting Democrat but the last two elections were as close as it gets to not voting for one but putting One in office..

  7. #298367
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “your only argument for voting for JSM is “at least he is a republican”"

    um, no, my main argument for voting for JSM in Nov. is his policies, as a rule [of which there are large exceptions], are good for this country. Either of the presumptive opponents’ policies, as a rule [with precious few exceptions] are VERY bad for this country.

  8. #298368
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Trollman said:

    Bruce said:

    Just thinking about John McCain makes me want to puke.

    I despise McCain more than I despise Clinton or Obama. That’s why I have committed to being a suicide voter in November. Not only will I NOT vote for McCain, I will vote AGAINST him by voting for the Democrat.

    I have never voted for a Democrat before, so I am attending a suicide voter training camp to prepare for my mission.

    Eeeewwww! I can’t vote for McCain either, but I will never vote for a Democrat. At least write in Tancredo or something!

    Like Iggy, except for McCain, I will vote down the line for Republicans. Even though some of those Republicans probably won’t deserve it, ever since the Democrats have determined to sell us out in the war on terror, no one in that party will ever get my vote.

  9. #298369
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    The open borders POS will get his head handed to him in November. Thank God!

  10. #298376
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I can’t vote for McCain either”

    and what way too many of you here either don’t get [or simply wish to ignore] is that such an action is a DE FACTO vote for hillbama — and yes, since i find that to be a stupid act, i’m “attacking” those people — suck.it.up.

  11. #298389
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:14 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    I just saw Chrissy Matthews and friends do a segment on this ad.

    Chrissy was having a hissy fit over what he predictably saw as racism.

    His panel, lead by a black reporter from the Washington Post, set him straight. They told him that you can not cry racism over every political ad that shows Obama’s non-white face. All three panelists agreed: the Post guy, a woman from Salon, and a guy from Politico.

    I despise Matthews. They used to call his style of politics “waving the bloody shirt.” And, of course, you always tout your own high-mindedness when waving it…that’s part of the deal. What a jerk he is. He can’t even get the leftie guests on his own show to agree with him.

  12. #298394
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm, Phiber0p said:

    um, no, my main argument for voting for JSM in Nov. is his policies, as a rule [of which there are large exceptions], are good for this country. Either of the presumptive opponents’ policies, as a rule [with precious few exceptions] are VERY bad for this country.

    Just to ask a question, what policies [aside from the one's that he's flip-flopped on because he thinks that's what we want to hear] are good for this country? I may not have been paying attention with all the other crap going on. I’m tired of settling for the lesser of 2 evils, but again what other choice do we have? I’ll still vote against any Democrat that’s running, but McCain don’t get my vote because he’s got great policies.

  13. #298400
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm, USMCgramma said:

    #93 Since our primary is so late, you are absolutely right. We need to get the Democrats out of state government (last count 21 were in prison) and McCain needs to butt out of this.

  14. #298405
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Buckaroo said:

    If I have to pick one, he’s one of the sole members of congress who actually doesn’t “over-pork” and will do something about spending.

    Close behind that, a sane Iraq policy, along with it an overall no-nonsense foreign policy [esp. w/ regard to size & readiness of the armed branches] that will make assad, lil’ kim, etc. not very comfortable at all.

    I’d also add solid social con credentials — pro-life, defense of marraige act, pro-2nd amend., constructionist judges, etc.

    for kicks, I’ll include this page
    tho i’m sure many here will simply rip apart the usual campaign mealy-mouth lingo [which yeah, it has, that's the way life works]

  15. #298410
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, franksalterego said:

    Another “McCain is a poopy-head” blog post.

    ho-hum

  16. #298414
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Buckaroo said:

    Thank you.

  17. #298424
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm, flmom said:

    Rusty
    Thanks to soap and others the ’swift boating’ reference you made has been answered, the Chambliss ad never called Cleland ‘unpatriotic’, but rather pointed out the fact that Cleland had voted against Bush’s creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security several times, again, a case of the left crying foul when the truth is shown. As for Helm’s ‘hand’ ad, I do not know enough about it to comment, but 2 out of 3 isn’t bad.
    It’s all well and good to be above the fray, if you’re Jesus, but it irritates me no end to when the Republicans refuse to play by the same rules as the Democrats. Remember the New York Slimes non-story story insinuating McCain trading political favors for sexual favors? A perfect example of what is in store for JM when the Dems have decided on their nominee.
    Sorry to be so late to answer, was cooking dinner, have to eat sometimes.

  18. #298427
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “A perfect example of what is in store for JM when the Dems have decided on their nominee”

    and when that occurs, measures will be taken as needed …

  19. #298441
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm, Speakup said:

    distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,” said McCain

    If he thinks his differences with the Democrats will assure that he wins in November then John McCain has one helluva lot of work to do.
    Conservative work, law and order work.

    Both liberal candidates are deeply flawed and showing their weaknesses and even just how eccentric they really are is an obligation to the American people.

  20. #298450
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm, franksalterego said:

    “I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,”

    I would think, we’d be making positive comments about this.

    MDS is eerily similar to BDS…You know the disease…”No matter what the candidate says or does, it’s wrong.”

  21. #298465
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, franksalterego said at 114:

    Another “McCain is a poopy-head” blog post.

    ho-hum

    I often feel, Frank, that in these time we are all like stars and planets in the universe, continuously moving away from each other. It is a fact of modern times — but especially since the Internet — that we all have the ability to become a little expert at a lot of things. Truly, we know a lot. And we live in a time when independence is prized and supported by the culture. We speak right up with our opinions.

    I am at least as independent in my own thinking as the average pajama monkey. I find it pretty hard to join in any parade, to follow any leader very far, to stick with a church or political party or talkshow host or even a movie reviewer!

    Sometimes this leaves me feeling rather alone. And I wonder if it is a merely a common human delusion that my opinions and reactions to the passing parade proceed from a coherent viewpoint. Could it be that a lot of what I feel is just willful, self-assertive randomness? Would I not be so angry at McCain if I had not had pepperonis on my pizza?

    And then — from time to time — I find some writer or thinker or pundit who very closely mirrors my own reactions. I am pretty much okay with the whole three-legged set of conservative issues, but there are some that are real important to me and a few others that I just lamely support. But there is nothing in the conservative basket that I don’t have at least some sympathy with. It is a very reassuring thing to come across someone like MM who, for me, seems closely to mirror not just my checklist but the emphasis and nuances of how I see things. (Laura Ingraham also does this for me. Over the years, I have felt this way ~at times~ about George Will and about Pat Buchanan.)

    So I thank Michelle for her “McCain is a poopy-head” thread. And I thank her for the immigration threads of the last few days. Michelle (like Laura I.) is clearly a very smart and insightful observer of our culture and politics and historical moment. To me, she is a little like a beacon sending out a signal of rationality in a chaotic world against which I can check and recalibrate my own attitudes. My political party has been hijacked by self-serving pols led by an open-borders crank who is helping to destroy this country. I need a few beacons of sanity like MM assuring me that I have not lost my mind and am not alone in the universe.

    I am sorry that you either disagree with MM’s views on McCain or — for whatever reason — would prefer for her to stifle herself and go along with wherever the Washington hacks want to lead us. I really, really appreciate the relentless way she sticks to her guns. She does this, because she is rational and coherent in her thinking. She can not/will not just bump along with the crowd. And I thank her very much. And when I read her, I am reassured that it is not me that is getting nuts…it is the world.

  22. #298490
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm, franksalterego said:

    Ignatius Reilly On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Fine,

    Then you just stay home on election day…And, when they play Hail to the Chief, and Obama walks in, you won’t be held responsible…You won’t be held accountable…You can just shrug your shoulders, and claim “I din’t do it”

    And, when the economy is in chaos, you can claim “It’s not my fault”…When they come to dip into your wallet, you can invite them to help themselves.

    And, when there’s a smoking crater, where St. Louis used to be, you can say “Don’t blame me”

    The stark reality is, you’re not gonna’ get a fence, no matter WHO you don’t vote for.

    And, when the sh!t hits the fan, I would hope, you’ll be the LAST one to complain.

  23. #298501
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 pm, franksalterego said:

    It’s no small irony, that the person who made “Moonbat” a household name, has turned into one.

  24. #298505
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:04 pm, rightisright said:

    It baffles me as to what it is McCain has said in the last few years that would make anyone believe he is the fix it man, please help us non-believers understand why everything he says is moderate to liberal but everything will be better? Sorry, I don’t see it that way.
    I won’t be voting for a dem no doubt, more than likely not for Juan either, down the ticket conservatively in hopes enough conservs in congress can keep grip on which ever lib is in the WH., Juan included.

  25. #298512
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:18 pm, pubscout said:

    Who cares what McCain thinks? Run the ad.

  26. #298513
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Buckaroo said:

    again, you don’t vote, you de facto vote for the donk.

    everything he says is moderate to liberal? If you think winning in Iraq is such, well, gee, where are all the rest of the “moderates” on that one?

  27. #298514
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm, tarpon said:

    Senior McCain, your new tone 2 reminds me of Bob “it’s his turn” Dole 1 without the drive, energy and charisma of the original. Didn’t learn a thing from new tone 1 did you.

  28. #298529
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm, libocrat said:

    Pubscout, no offense friend, but if you don’t vote, you let others decide your fate. Not real smart.

  29. #298530
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm, Bruce said:

    It’s good to know that somewhere in North Carolina exist some Republicans that still want the best for America.

    What a disgusting SHAME John McCain is!

    What a disgusting SHAME the RNC is!

  30. #298545
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:53 pm, rooster said:

    Remind me why it’s in our best interest to keep voting for these idiotic RINO’s?

  31. #298552
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:00 pm, franksalterego said:

    Here’s my beef…

    “It’s an idiotic strategy to convince more rank-and-file Republicans to stop giving money to the Beltway GOP elite.”
    MM

    To insinuate, that McCain has a hidden agenda, or ulterior motive behind his remarks is ludicrous.

    try to keep this thread on topic

  32. #298553
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm, changer1701 said:

    That’s a great ad. Kudos to the NC GOP for having the cajones to put something like that together. Now, when will the RNC and and McCain grow a pair? (Or did Newt leave them under that bench with Pelosi?)

  33. #298564
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm, zorro said:

    Here’s the NC GOP website. They’re asking for support. Help ‘em out if you can.

    I’m leery of all Republicans at this point. Open borders, religious opinions etc. I don’t think a religious conservative has much of a voice with the GOP.

  34. #298565
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:13 pm, rooster said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Buckaroo said:
    again, you don’t vote, you de facto vote for the donk.

    Buckaroo,

    Sorry, not much difference between the 3 stooges to me anymore.

    How is it that Juan/Obummer/Hildabeast are going to bring our industrial base back to America?

    How much more damage can be brought upon our already ruined justice system?

    How much worse can our education system get?

    How much longer will we refuse to drill for our own oil?

    How long will our border and immigration policies remain broken?

    How much longer will the msm be allowed their bias towards conservative Americans?

    How much longer will we the taxpayers continue to fund NPR/PBR just to have propaganda taught by anti-America types like Bill Moyers and the rest of his vermin?

    Maverick candidate Juan McCain….meet Maverick voter rooster

    hat tip to iggy

  35. #298566
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:14 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “How much more damage can be brought upon our already ruined justice system?

    How much worse can our education system get?”

    um, a LOT …

  36. #298569
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:19 pm, Joe 6-pack said:

    #113 wrote

    If I have to pick one, he’s one of the sole members of congress who actually doesn’t “over-pork” and will do something about spending.

    he campaigns as a pork cutter. but what is the most expensive pork in the entire country, local, state, and federal?

    ILLEGAL ALIENS, that’s what.

    costing maybe $70 billion per year.

    a $10 million bridge to nowhere is bad. but a $70 billion annual bridge to American destruction is armageddon.
    and Juan McPain is the biggest pork creator of all, only HIS pork comes wrapped in an expensive tortilla.

  37. #298572
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 pm, johnsteele said:

    I’ve been saying this for weeks now. McCain has spent his entire Senate career practicing some BS Senatorial Collegiality. He’s going to get his you-know-whats cut off by some Chicago street thug wanna-be who doesn’t give a rat’s behind about Senatorial Collegiality.

  38. #298573
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 pm, Buckaroo said:

    sooo, yer bashing a U.S. senator ’cause your state can’t get their crap togehter?

  39. #298574
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:25 pm, rooster said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:14 pm, Buckaroo said:
    “How much more damage can be brought upon our already ruined justice system?

    How much worse can our education system get?”

    um, a LOT …

    ummm, really?

    We had control for quite some time and we failed to even enact something as simple as voter ID. Sorry, the RINO’s have failed us.

    If we have to be in the wilderness for 4 years, to , save our party so be it.

    We did survive Slick Willy…..somewhat.

  40. #298575
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:25 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 136

    you really think b.o. is a better political fighter than JSM?

  41. #298577
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 pm, Buckaroo said:

    ok, so you’d screw the country to save “the party” — lotsa luck with that …

  42. #298583
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:35 pm, rooster said:

    Buckaroo as much as it pains me, not sure how much worse any of them are when compared to each other.

    All 3 sicken me for our country.

  43. #298586
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:37 pm, Buckaroo said:

    see, i am just baffled that anyone can reach that conclusion …

    /my problem, i’ll deal with it

  44. #298589
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm, gopftw said:

    I live in Charlotte, NC. I say run the ad! It will def. help the conservative Democrats switch over to help McCain. He needs to grow a pair and shut up about the “respectful campaign” crap. Obama is already attacking him…. grow up.

  45. #298590
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 pm, dejack said:

    I, like most of those posting, was surprised and depressed when McCain got the nob. McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, etc. are terrible legislation. However, we have a war to win and it’s no time to go wobbly, as the Magster once said. Also Justice Stevens is 87 yrs old. There are some big issues that will be decided in the next couple of years and BO or HRC would be a disaster. Think of Carter only this time the Iranians have nukes.

  46. #298593
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:43 pm, Joe 6-pack said:

    with a lib dem congress, McCain will be spending 90% of his time on amnesty, global warming, housing bailouts, gov health care, tax increase fights, and troop withdrawal fights

  47. #298595
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:45 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “nob”

    freudian slip, eh?
    :-)

  48. #298596
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:45 pm, single stack said:

    To think that this nitwit is the best the GOP could come up with to counter the Evil Ones makes me weep for the future.

  49. #298598
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm, Buckaroo said:

    under that premise, far better him dealing with those than hillbama rubber-stamping it …

  50. #298599
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm, dejack said:

    Hahahahah
    Actually we got the nob. The only question is how deep.

  51. #298607
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 pm, Trollman said:

    Buckaroo said:

    “I can’t vote for McCain either”

    and what way too many of you here either don’t get [or simply wish to ignore] is that such an action is a DE FACTO vote for hillbama — and yes, since i find that to be a stupid act, i’m “attacking” those people — suck.it.up.

    And perhaps you do not get that a vote for McCain is a sign to the Republican party to keep putting up these Democrat-lite candidates.

    How are we going to get a Republican House or Senate? Not by having a weak Republican President. If a Democrat is elected, they will be awful, and we stand a good chance of taking back Congress in 2 years.

    If McCain loses because conservative voters don’t show up, then there is a good chance a lot of the RINO Republicans in smaller offices will be voted out, too. 2 years later, we can vote in conservative candidates.

    Will McCain appoint a conservative Justice to the Supreme Court? Maybe. But considering that McCain doesn’t want fellow Republicans telling the truth about Obama (even if it would help other Republicans running for office), yet has no problem cussing out fellow Republicans who want a fence…

    If you want McCain, you vote for him. I’m not at all convinced he is better for the country in the long term.

  52. #298608
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I’m not at all convinced he is better for the country in the long term.”
    and that abject foolishness could very well harm our country …

    /and yeah, i do intend to vote for him …

  53. #298609
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm, old trooper said:

    Ha Ha Ha.

    Either Vote McCain or get the destruction of America from within.

    At this point Osama and Billary offer a dark path.

  54. #298611
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 9:59 pm, dejack said:

    I respectfully disagree. The damage wrought by a far left president can last for generations. A weak, watered- down Republican is bad (GB Sr.) but doesn’t reverberate to the extent that 20, 30, 40 years later we are still dealing with a massively increased federal government that we get rid of. Didn’t St. Jimmy add two additional federal departments? Energy and one other?

  55. #298612
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 pm, dejack said:

    The we can’t get rid of. Need to proof better.

  56. #298613
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 pm, Buckaroo said:

    education, iirc …

  57. #298616
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 pm, Trollman said:

    Can the McCain folks at least admit that there is practically no chance we will take back Congress if McCain is president?

    Let us think about that… president McCain with a Democratic Congress:

    McCain: I’m president, but since the Dems have control of the Senate, I will compromise – I sooooo love to compromise with my liberal friends -

    Conservatives: No, don’t do it!

    McCain: Shut the ^%&^#&^% up! As I was saying, I am all too happy to “compromise” on my Supreme Court pick. And just to spite conservatives for not calming down, dear friend Harry Reid, who should I pick? Hillary? Obama? EXCELLENT!

  58. #298620
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:15 pm, dejack said:

    Trollman I do admit what you are saying and I am far from a McCain man. But this is the choice we have been handed. Obama, who is the most likely nominee for the Ds, would be, I am convinced, a complete disaster. One, possibly two, additional Ruth Ginsbergs on the SCOTUS. Bloodbath in Iraq. Iranian nukes, possibly smuggled to Hamas or who knows? Jimmy Carteresque, candy-land, fantasy, genuflecting diplomacy that severely weakens us as a nation. Increased taxes. Government controlled healthcare. The mind reels with what this guy can do in a few years with a democrat house and senate.

  59. #298619
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:15 pm, zorro said:

    If you want McCain, you vote for him.

    My sentiment as well. I even switched party… to “no affiliation”.

  60. #298621
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:16 pm, flmom said:

    I just came back from a softball game, and see this thread has gotten very morose. It is what it is, McCain is our nominee, we have to make lemonade out of the lemons. My eye has always been on the Supremes, the damage done there can be so far-reaching and long-lasting, that, to me is the priority. After that, is the situation in the Middle East, which, like it or not, affects everyone, particularly, the US. Just on those 2 points, there is no choice but to vote for McCain. All this talk of electing a Dem that’s so bad, that a Repub is inevitably the next choice is flawed, because by then we’ll have at least 2 more Ruth Bader Ginsburgs ready to serve for at least 15-20 years. People it’s all about damage control, let’s work it so the least amount of damage is done. I can’t stand McCain, but I truly believe that he is the course to the least damage inflicted.

  61. #298622
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:16 pm, dejack said:

    didn’t turn off my emphasis, sorry

  62. #298625
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm, flmom said:

    sorry, Dejack, you beat me to it, I guess we both had the same thought at the same time.

  63. #298627
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm, dejack said:

    ;) flmom
    I am passionate about this because during the early days of the primary I said, if McCain wins I’ll sit this one out. Then I started learning who the Messiah was and it scared the nutmeg out of me. I feel like Roosevelt agreeing to prop up Stalin to take down Hitler. Rotten luck to have these cards but we can’t afford to fold.

  64. #298628
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm, zorro said:

    McCain is our nominee

    He’s the Republican nominee. And he’s a liberal republican. And with sincere respect, liberal judges will be replaced by liberal judges under a President McCain. McCain was one of the idiots who held up GW’s nominees. He goes along to get along.

  65. #298633
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 pm, flmom said:

    Dejack

    I was a Mitt supporter and was so angry when McCain got the nod, but you have to make the best of what is, besides, it confirmed to me that Mitt’s motives were a littler higher than most that are in the race, it was the best thing for the Republicans.

  66. #298638
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:37 pm, dejack said:

    We can’t resort to the purity test which is what goes on with the Left. They crucify anyone that strays from the doctrine on any point. If we had a Reagan running I would be in much better spirits. As to zorro’s point, I agree with you and don’t think Stevens or Ginsberg would be replaced with a Stevens or Alito. But I don’t think it would be another Ginsberg. I worry that in the desire for us to not give in on our principals we martyr the country.

  67. #298639
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm, dartagnans_blade said:

    He’s an idiot…..respectful my ass… he needs to FIGHT…..being respectful has cost us over 4000 american soldiers because pukes like MCcain have become as soft as the puss lawyers and silver spoon fed frat boys who dominate Washington. Jackass! I still have one over there and the thought of any of these clowns being the next DUBYA really irks and scares me…

  68. #298640
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:39 pm, dejack said:

    Bad brain. Strike second Stevens. Replace with Roberts. Eloquence lost now.

  69. #298641
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:39 pm, franksalterego said:

    McCain was one of the idiots who held up GW’s nominees. He goes along to get along.
    zorro

    I jus’ luv it, when someone makes up their own facts.

  70. #298644
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm, franksalterego said:

    He’s an idiot…..respectful my ass… he needs to FIGHT…..being respectful has cost us over 4000 american soldiers because pukes like MCcain have become as soft as the puss lawyers and silver spoon fed frat boys who dominate Washington. Jackass! I still have one over there and the thought of any of these clowns being the next DUBYA really irks and scares me…
    –dartagnans_blade

    Funny, how trolls always tell on themselves, isn’t it.

  71. #298645
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 pm, flmom said:

    #166
    Another reason to vote for McCain, he’s not Reagan, but the alternatives would be taking their cue to deal with the Middle East out of Carter’s playbook..shudder

  72. #298647
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 pm, dejack said:

    What would dartagnan want McCain to fight? I’m not understanding the post.

  73. #298648
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm, rooster said:

    Senor’ McCain you have one option…grow a frickin’ pair and get us on your side you moron!

  74. #298657
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 pm, franksalterego said:

    Liberals would luv to see McCain get down in the mud, like their own two candidate pigs.

  75. #298658
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm, flmom said:

    You’re right there frank, but I think that McCain is being a little too gentlemanly[sp?].

  76. #298660
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 pm, franksalterego said:

    flmom,

    Too gentlemanly?

    What, exactly, do you WANT in a president?

    decorum

  77. #298661
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 pm, dejack said:

    #175
    Snort. Like getting a lewinsky in the office.

  78. #298663
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:15 pm, franksalterego said:

    Some McCain supporters are spinning the disavowal of the ad as a masterful strategy to stay above the fray.
    MM

    I think, this is a perfectly good idea…And, the most plausible.

    I mean, after all, we can sit here, all day long, throwing sh!t all over his opponents, and none of it lands on McCain.

    Could it be?…John McCain is a whole lot craftier, than Michelle gives him credit for?

    P’haps, he’s even craftier than SHE is?

  79. #298665
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Sean said:

    Why does the fool McLame keep attacking every republican or conservative who tries to help his campaign? He is doing nothing but given the race hustlers in the media ammunition. Part of me will die when I go into the voting booth and pull the lever for this fraud. We can only pray that there is still a conservative bone in his body. What great options we have this year. A Marxist, an arch criminal, and the king of the RINO’s.

  80. #298666
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm, flmom said:

    I’d like to see someone who had the courage to call right, right and wrong, wrong, without cowering to political correctness, believe me, this can be done in a very respectful and courteous way, it really isn’t hard, I think having a very strong belief in your values helps. Unfortunately McCain is erring on the side of caution in this election, it doesn’t buy much respect from me.

  81. #298667
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 pm, flmom said:

    off to bed, goodnight

  82. #298668
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 pm, dejack said:

    godspeed flmom

  83. #298672
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm, libocrat said:

    I think liberals don’t understand McCain.
    When McCain wasn’t the GOP nominee, the MSM loved him as much as they can love a Republican. McCain has always been a respectful man and has certainly reached across the aisle more than any other Senator on either side. I’m not saying that is conciliation is good, but it is real.
    So many libs distrust him for 2 reasons.
    1)He’s Republican and libs hate Republicans.
    2)They don’t believe a guy like McCain is real. They can’t relate to someone who isn’t a hater.

  84. #298673
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 pm, PoliticalDookie said:

    I’m not a big McCain fan so please don’t take this as spin but I’m not put off by this. I think there is a purpose to this and it has to do with McCain courting blocks of voters that the party has written off previously. I see McCain clearly not wanting to alienate the black vote. He is not scared to tear into Obama, just look at his comments on Ayers.

    A more cynical perspective could be that McCain knows he can disavow the ad and still get mileage from it sans responsibility.

  85. #298675
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm, Joe 6-pack said:

    McCain wants to be civil to lib opponents, but he wants to cuss out conservs from his own party. go figure.

    McCain wants to reach across the aisle, but he wants conservs to compromise their principles, rather than demanding the libs move to the center.

  86. #298681
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm, Trollman said:

    PoliticalDookie said:

    I think there is a purpose to this and it has to do with McCain courting blocks of voters that the party has written off previously. I see McCain clearly not wanting to alienate the black vote.

    An old, pasty white Republican has no chance of getting the black vote, particularly against a young, black Democrat. If Hillary pulls the rug out from under Obama’s feet, the Democrat party will implode and then McCain wins regardless.

    McCain ought to be trying to capture the conservative vote. Yeah, don’t see that one happening, either.

  87. #298685
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:48 pm, Sean said:

    Yeah, where was McCain’s “civility” when he was smearing Romney? I guess it’s ok for him to gang up on Romney with his fellow populist Hucksterbee as long as he doesn’t point out that the Obamanation surrounds himself with Anti-American racists.

  88. #298687
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:53 pm, Joe 6-pack said:

    I guess conservatives holding back support would be called

    “the McCain Mutiny”

    it is like letting out a skunk. hold nose while pulling lever.

  89. #298693
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:04 am, flenser said:

    I worry that in the desire for us to not give in on our principals we martyr the country.

    Oh, please.

    One thing Republican voters can never be accused of is being too zealous in sticking up for principle. They seem to delight in showing how “reasonable” they can be.

    And electing McCain screws the country rather than saves it.

  90. #298694
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:09 am, libocrat said:

    Trollman, on balance you are correct. The PC conventional wisdom is that black voters are just like white voters only darker. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Blacks, especially those who actually vote, have their own, personal, cultural, and racial biases. In fact, our culture and our past has fostered a culture in most of black America that is now coming to the surface. Democrats have pandered to blacks, they have patted blacks on their heads as if they were pets, and they have passed legislation that shoveled tons of cash into urban black holes. All designed to keep blacks voting for the Durbans, Boxers, McKinneys and Gores. So blacks are actually given a REAL LIVE BLACK MAN as an option. And they gave Rodham the bird. Black America, BY and LARGE, is jaded and disgusted with their lot as a whole. The 40 years of LBJ style welfare mentality DID NOT HELP BLACK AMERICA succeed. It made much of black America dependant and dysfunctional.
    McCain isn’t going to get that vote. Blacks will disavow liberals….slowly.
    SEAN? How did McCain “SMEAR” Romney.
    I backed Romney and the only objections I ever had as to his treatment was the ad hominems about his looks and wealth, and the “innuendo” about his religion.

  91. #298695
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:10 am, dejack said:

    ouch flenser.

    Reasonable helps us win the big ones when our opponents are dripping venom. Remember 2000 VP Leiberman shown in blackface for daring to stray from the far left. This is a game of inches. Rarely can you advance the ball more than a few yards.

  92. #298698
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:22 am, libocrat said:

    Flenser, the left actually believes that most Republicans are extreme right-wing Bible thumping, war mongering, rich, bigots. The left has proven over the last 7-8 years that the Earth is indeed round. By that I mean, the left/Dems have moved so far left, that they would have fallen off of a flat earth. So from their unhinged perspective anyone who doesn’t embrace abortion, and Islamofascism is a Right wing nut. Many Republicans of good intention and good will have tasted a sip of that Kool-aid. Add to that the daily inundation of MSM bias and much of the Republican rank and file has been desensatised by. If you have moral compunction vis a vis gay marriage. You are a homophobe. Slowly ever so slowly social mores we once held are diluted by PC concepts. Some are good, most are bad.
    The left considers itself moral superior. One abortion at a time.

  93. #298699
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:30 am, dejack said:

    Am I still in trouble or not? I’m not sure what to think, our coportate corporate focusus. Who offended again/

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