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The GOP ad John McCain doesn’t want you to see

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 23, 2008 02:50 PM

What is the big freaking’ deal? The RNC and John McCain are spanking the North Carolina GOP for running an ad against the state’s Democrat gubernatorial candidates titled “Extreme.” It points out Barack Obama’s longtime association with America-basher Jeremiah Wright, notes that both Dem candidates have endorsed Obama, and deems them too radical for voters. Here’s the ad:

McCain is demanding that the ad be withdrawn (via ABC News, hat tip- Allah):

“I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,” said McCain in a letter to the North Carolina Republican Party Chair Linda Davis.

McCain demanded that Davis discontinue plans to run the ad: “It is imperative that you withdraw this offensive advertisement.”

The RNC sniffed that the ad was “Not appropriate and unhelpful.”

Hey, neither’s watching GOP standard-bearers making nice with Nancy Pelosi on a couch or making utter fools of their out-of-touch selves.

But I digress.

Some McCain supporters are spinning the disavowal of the ad as a masterful strategy to stay above the fray.

Nonsense. It’s an idiotic strategy to convince more rank-and-file Republicans to stop giving money to the Beltway GOP elite.

Here’s the NC GOP website. They’re asking for support. Help ‘em out if you can.

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  1. #1
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm, karenhasfreedom said:

    It would be interesting to see how this ad tested with focus groups. What are the polls showing in this gubenatorial contest? If anything, this ad was too short!!!

  2. #2
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm, its vintage duh said:

    Some McCain supporters are spinning the disavowal of the ad as a masterful strategy to stay above the fray.

    What good does it do for the GOP or McCain to inject themselves into the Hate-monger Wright fiasco any more than they have to? Let the Dems tear each other apart over it.

    I know you hate McCain, but still, being overly critical of every single thing he does is ridiculous.

  3. #3
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Did Wright say what he said? YES… Did they endorse Obama? YES… Was the lady polite and erudite in her statement? YES….. McCain you really don’t want my vote, do you? (In my best Dom Irrera voice) I say this McCain, with no disrespect at all… you are an idiot on this one.

  4. #4
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm, olbroad said:

    Why is everyone so afraid of the truth?

    I think it’s an excellent ad, and no way should the RNC butt in and make ‘em remove it. I just might have to contribute a few bucks to help keep it on the air.

  5. #5
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm, orlandocajun said:

    It sounds like they’re trying to keep Hillary in the game too.

  6. #6
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    McCain demanded that Davis discontinue plans to run the ad: “It is imperative that you withdraw this offensive advertisement.”

    Wait until it is just McCain and Shrill. If he thinks things are not going to get nasty, he has another thing coming.

    I have it on good authority that lgm has “new secret evidence” McCain was never a prisoner of war but sitting on a beach in Hawaii during his POW stint. Wait until Shrill gets hold of that info.

  7. #7
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Soap, so he’s back to reading the Bazooka Joe comics and thinking their evidence? Sheesh!

  8. #8
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm, flmom said:

    This has always been a problem with Republicans, they play too nice. A fat lot of good that’s done them, there is nothing wrong or disrespectful in pointing out the truth as it is, McCain needs to grow a pair.

  9. #9
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “watching GOP standard-bearers”

    point of order — by these and other actions newt and trent are NO LONGER gop ’standard-bearers” …

  10. #10
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Boomer said:

    McCain is demanding that the ad be withdrawn

    I demand McCain withdraw and suspend his campaign for POTUS. After all it goes against our two party system to have only liberals on the ballot.

  11. #11
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Trollman said:

    This is a lousy ad - they left out many of Jeremiah Wright’s greatest hits.

    I agree with McCain: “I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today.”

    In order to respect Wright’s talent, we must not characterize him as a one hit wonder, but as the true, enduring talent that he is - producing hit after hit for 30 years.

  12. #12
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm, conservativesRus said:

    actually Soap - it is watershed that has the info but we’re all too stubborn to let him share it with us and that is why he’s banned. You know - speaking (incoherent) truth to power.

  13. #13
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm, right4life said:

    It’s a idiotic strategy to convince more rank-and-file Republicans to stop giving money to the Beltway GOP elite.

    the GOP did that a long time ago for me.

  14. #14
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm, mom24ks said:

    What Senator McCain doesn’t realize is that we’ve tolerated the Democrats running the state government for years..years of corruption. (example: Former House Speaker Jim Black is currently in prison and Former Agriculture Commissioner Meg Scott Phipps was locked up for 3 years) More examples of corruption can be seen in how the state lottery was passed. This ad isn’t for the McCain campaign, it is for the republicans running for governor of North Carolina. Being a tax paying resident of the “great” North State, I would appreciate it if Senator McCain would kindly butt out….bless his heart.

  15. #15
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm, timinphoenix said:

    It’s the same silly gentleman’s way of dealing with these thugs and Marxists in the DNC that has led to so much warm feelings for President Bush.

    Oh and the public has loved his bipartisian, “come on over for movie Teddy” new approach to dealing with Democrats that have the president so high in the polls.

    Look. The Democratic party of today isn’t the honorable opponents of days gone by. They are filled with people who hate the United States as it is, who root and work for the success of enemies of the United States, and who use the most hateful comments they can while being protected by their buddies in the media.

    McCain’s nice guy approach can work to a certain extent, but beyond that it does nothing but to take the wind out of the sails of the Republicans, who are not that thrilled with “Maverick” to begin with.

  16. #16
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm, rooster said:

    I am plagarizing from someone that posts here on MM’s site, my feelings of this moron.

    Maverick Juan McCain meet Maverick voter…rooster!

  17. #17
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm, flenser said:

    “I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today.”

    Right. I well remember the “respectful” and “honest” fashion in which Juan McLiar conducted himself in attempting to ram through his amnesty bill out of sight of the voters.

  18. #18
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

    This ad is going to get BURIED by all the ad time Obama is buying in North Carolina. If you see one of these you’ll see four of his.

  19. #19
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm, flyovercountry said:

    Obama was on with Jon Stewart last night and Stewart asked him how with Hillary attacking him like she’s been isn’t this making it that much easier for the “right wing attack machine” once it gears up in the general election? I almost fell over laughing…and now this from McPain. Right wing attack machine my @$$.

  20. #20
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm, sambo said:

    Exactly mom24ks. Juan needs to watch it. The NC gov race has nothing to do with him (unless I decide to bring nose plugs)! I want to know who supports B. HO.

  21. #21
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm, libocrat said:

    McCain can’t help stepping on his own member. Obama CHOSE Wright. I can understand McCain not running the ad via his own campaign, but if the GOP wants to run an ad that explains who Obama is and whom he associates with SO-BE-IT.
    Trust Malkanites, Rodham or Obama will not be so kind to McCain.

  22. #22
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm, libocrat said:

    Attention attention. Please do not call Senator McCain “Juan”. If you must deride him and his lack of border enforcement here-to-fore, please use a more respectful term.

    Senor McCain!!

    Yes that’s it.

  23. #23
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    libocrat,

    You rock! I am glad you are here and enjoy your posts. They make my day!

  24. #24
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Buckaroo said:

    apparently it falls to me to defend JSM again, so I will …

    until the donks finish their lame version of “higlander,” he has chosen [and continues to hold to it] to take ONLY the HIGH road — period. This is a calculation on his part, to completely separate himself from the copious mud awash on the other side.

    imo, it’s working extremely well — just take a look at the fav/unfav nos. over the past couple weeks.

    JSM knows how to run a campaign; and he shall do it his way all through the autumn …

  25. #25
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm, nyc123me said:

    The RNC sniffed that the ad McCain was “Not appropriate and unhelpful.”

    fixed it.

  26. #26
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm, Rinoalert said:

    McCain demanded that Davis discontinue plans to run the ad: “It is imperative that you withdraw this offensive advertisement.”

    It is imperative that we do not vote for offensive candidates with no fight in them against the enemy.

  27. #27
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Run the ad. 24 hours a day. In every state.

  28. #28
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm, Buckaroo said:

    #26

    yer not getting it, this is a calculated move in APRIL; certain people realize that the general is in SEVEN months, not next week …

  29. #29
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm, hatelibs said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm, timinphoenix said:
    It’s the same silly gentleman’s way of dealing with these thugs and Marxists in the DNC that has led to so much warm feelings for President Bush.

    Exactly! I respect McCain for wanting to run a respectful campaign. However, unless he is willing to be tough but honest about what a total hunk of scum Hitlary and BHO really are, he will be turned into a punching bag just like Bush has and will get run over like a freight train.

  30. #30
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm, flenser said:

    Right. I well remember the “respectful” and “honest” fashion in which Juan McLiar conducted himself in attempting to ram through his amnesty bill out of sight of the voters.

    Exactly what I was thinking. Isn’t “respectful debate” about immigration what both mcquack and bush said over and over while they were trying to ram immigration reform (aka amnesty) down our throat. Also, I seem to remember hearing the “heated rhetoric is not helpful” as well. You know, I really was hoping mcidiot would give me a reason to vote for him in Nov, but as usual he will disappoint. Same goes for the GOP party. I am not sure I could even stand to hear mcamnesty’s voice for 4 years telling me how we must give amnesty (I cringe evertime I hear bush these days). Take your “compassionate conservatism” guys and, well you know what you can do with it. Looks like I will be changing to independent as I can no longer stand the GOP leadership or its candidates.

  31. #31
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm, twofoot said:

    For the life of me, I wish I could figure out when telling the truth became an “attack ad”. Is there anything untrue in the ad?

    It’s bad enough I am stuck with the court jester of conservatism as my apparent nominee. Does he really have to spend his time defending people he should be trying to defeat? Even worse, does he have to spend his time trying to defeat people who he should really be trying to convince to vote for him?

    Un-friggin-believable.

  32. #32
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    I’ll say it again: Left - Right is dead. There is only one.

  33. #33
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 30

    jus’ keep bashing JSM and you git yerself a president hillbama — your choice i suppose …

  34. #34
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Sean.Hackbarth said:

    Speculating about the Obama-Ayers relationship (Obama refuses to clarify it) is more “offensive” than using the plain, clear words of Jeremiah Wright. If McCain wants to be “pure” then he should be consistently pure.

  35. #35
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:57 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    That’s the best they could do? Promote your candidate not by what he stands for or has accomplised, but rather use guilt by association once-removed against your opponent.

  36. #36
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:58 pm, tpro1 said:

    Buckaroo, you seem to think that McCain is the leader of the GOP. He is the nominee, not the supreme commander. I’m tempted to support them with the money I will never give to support McCain.

    BTW, we’re not bashing JSM (at least not all the time), but we can stand up for the type of GOP ads we think will help the GOP best.

  37. #37
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Jim M. said:

    Interesting stance by McCain. The ad is intended to shed light on the judgment and character of the NC state office candidates by showing how they have aligned themselves and endorsed Obama. It does not smear Obama - it states as documented fact that he himself lacks judgment and character.

    It almost sounds like McCain either does not believe that the issues of judgment, character and integrity are relevant in a federal or state election, or he feels vulnerable personally in opening that door for like ads against McCain in the general election. Does McCain have some skeletons about to break out of the closet?

  38. #38
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    #33. Yep it is. Voting lesser of 2 evils for the past several elections has lead us to what? Oh yea, a GOP that is less conservative than the JFK administration. By continuing to support the GOP and it’s antics we have given tacit approval of their left of middle platfrom. Enough. I can not stand mcamnesty and still waiting for a reason to support him. I am sick of the whole mess. Honestly, though, I may hold my nose to keep marxist BHO out of the office, but HRC would be only mildly worse than mccain. Look at mccain’s sorry record and his staunch defense of amnesty then get back to me.

  39. #39
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, Buckaroo said:

    tpr01

    my point is, for joe & mary q. public, for the next 7 months JSM IS the GOP [rightly or wrongly] and his success will go a long way to overall GOP success. I know many here disagree with that, all the way to the extreme of hoping he loses yet somehow the GOP gains the 25 seats to control one or two houses. that sort of scenario is foolishness and counterproductivity of the worst kind, and so I will continue to vigorously lobby for positive treatment of JSM as it is strongly in our best interests that such treatment continues [and I know that puts me at odds not only with many comentatrors but also with the blog owner. so be it].

  40. #40
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:06 pm, bit_boy said:
    McSame says: I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today.

    McSame’s contribution to this great debate:
    My [ enter great issue here ] experience qualifies me as the best POTUS choice.

    Actually, on my soap box # 6, McSame was referred to as a special prisoner with a female comfort nurse. He was offered early release by the Viets and he said hell no there’s a war going on out there. His whole military experience is so SwiftBoat ripe conducting other than a play nice campaign is nuclear to him. The Dems could blow his stupid a$$ out of the water so easy.

  41. #41
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm, tpro1 said:

    Regarding the gentle approach, consider this:

    One who paddles no water makes no waves.

    So how are we going to go against the stream of liberalism if we don’t oppose it and those who associate with it? I think the “Rudy Giuliani strategy” of waiting until later to get into the fight will fail this time for McCain too.

  42. #42
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    If McCain wants to lose NC, he sure can. This ad has nothing to do with him and he better leave well enough alone.

    If he wants to call us bigots, well we’ll just show him we aren’t and elect Obama over him. McCain is a real jerk to comment on this ad. He better know that NC don’t like what he did in the tobacco settlement, AND we don’t appreciate being overrun by illegal aliens either.

    WE DON’T MIND VOTING DEMOCRAT HERE! Clinton is here now, and we already elected John Edwards once. . . plus our governor is Democrat.

    McCain is a real jerk to stick his nose in here. He’d better have sense to let sleeping dogs lie. . . or they might just bite him. Dogs don’t see D or R, they just see JERK.

  43. #43
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:14 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Buck - I honestly don’t care if R’s win the election if they act like D’s. What I want is conservatives. You seem to think R equals conservative. It doesn’t

  44. #44
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:16 pm, ricor said:

    Just a observation. Maybe JM does not want people to be numbed by the statements before the general election.

  45. #45
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:17 pm, The Ugly American said:

    McCain has no problems discussing Obama’s Weather Underground connections yet a video ad that displays his relationship to Jeremiah Wright is somehow deemed offensive.

    I don’t geddit.

  46. #46
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    The only part of the ad I found offensive was the part where Rev. Wright was hating on the country I love. If McCain is going to approach B(*cough Hussein *cough)O. with kid gloves, he’s going to get his a$$ handed to him. McCain has no idea what he’s in for once the Eye Of Sauron starts focusing on him.

  47. #47
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “less conservative than the JFK administration”
    when this administration sits by while the berlin wall is being built and/or twiddles its thumbs as the bay of pigs debacle unfolds then you can get back to me …

    “HRC would be only mildly worse than mccain”
    sooo, you a ruth bader ginsburg fan then?

    annd, he’s shifted on amnesty, not that you and your whining cohorts would ever give him credit for that.

  48. #48
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    It’s not a well-done ad, but the message is right on. Obama sat in his church and listened to revolting hate speech for years. That goes to the very core of who he is, what he’ll tolerate, and his candidacy. No question about it. It’s a tame ad. It’s not, as McCain characterizes it, “offensive”. Wright is offense.

  49. #49
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Yiddish Steel said:

    John McCain… “Maverick”… with a vagina.

  50. #50
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Buckaroo said:

    #40

    “He was offered early release by the Viets and he said hell no there’s a war going on out there”

    are you actually stupid enough to believe that?

  51. #51
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, Dandapani said:

    Thanks the Gods, I’m no longer a Republican, AUM. I’m an American Conservative! Too bad none are running for President :(

  52. #52
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm, Mister P said:

    Here is the truth that I want to hear from McCain and the Republicans. We can eliminate deficit spending and increase wages.

    The bottom line, which you need to know for your own bottom line, is that U.S. taxpayers are giving more than $9,000 a year in cash or benefits to each immigrant, a third of whom are illegal aliens. That’s $36,000 for each immigrant household of four.

  53. #53
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, John Ansell said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Boomer said: #10

    We could only be so lucky. I’d pass on winning the lotto for that to come true.

  54. #54
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:33 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    Actually Bill Clinton is speaking about 15 minutes from me RIGHT NOW. Hey McCain, you think I should go support him instead of you? He’s at least here, he’s been here, and YOU HAVE NOT EVER BEEN HERE SIR.

    We are a huge military state with the 82nd airborne. But you are probably the only R in DC that could actually force me to vote D. For real, after this nonsense, I think Hillary is actually better than McCain. Hillary has the guts to call a spade a spade. What a jerk McCain is. Holier than thou for real. McCain needs to stay shut up. NC hasn’t voted for the D party in a long time. . . but if McCain keeps this up we definitely will.

    Without NC, McCain won’t win the election. I just signed up as unaffiliated to vote for Hillary - it was supposed to be just for the primary. . . but you can sure convince me to vote AGAINST you in the general. Keep it up Dumba**.

  55. #55
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I think Hillary is actually better than McCain”

    dude, switch to decaf or sumtin …

    /he’s never been to my state yet either, and prolly won’t. he’ll go where he needs to. if you wish to keep up with your hysterics, well, that may [or may not] get him to come to nc eventualy.

  56. #56
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm, mistressjustice said:

    After the crap the Right Wing put him though in South Carolina, 2000, I think he wants to raise the muck of political campaigning just a tad.

  57. #57
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Buckaroo said:

    Dude, you really need to put the pipe down. You beleive he shifted on amnesty? mcamnesty just said yesterday “we need to secure the border” then said to do that we need a “guest worker program”. That “my friend” is code for amnesty. He used the same BS when trying to push his amnesty through. “It’s not amensty if they pay a fine” crap. Look the guy is NO conservative. You can toe the party line all you wnat but count me out. The GOP and mccain p*ssed down my back and told me it was raining too many times. The difference is I was smart enough to realize the BS, but party hacks like you continue to look for the clouds.

    And notice I said past several elections. Reagan was a great president. But don’t even compare him to bush sr, jr, or mcamnesty. Don’t even try it. And, I have heard HRC speak more hawkish about Iran than mcamnesty ever would.

    I do worry about the SC nominations but I would nto trust “reach across the aisle” mccain to nominate a Roberts or Scolito. In fact, I bet he would nominate a flaming liberal then tell us all to “shut up” when we b*tched.

  58. #58
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, emjem24 said:

    Well, Sen. McCain, since this NC ad has nothing to do with you, where’s the rub? Do you think it reflects poorly on your election chances?

    The issue of character is integral to one’s campaign and that the NC GOP is running an ad questioning the Dem’s decision to back somebody like Obummer and who he associates with is something that needs to be explored. Why are people so scared of looking at what’s underneath the pretty facade of Obummer?

    McCain continues to disappoint. If he continues along this “I won’t do what it takes, including questioning my opponent’s character, to win an election,” I will have to reconsider my presidential choices (which suck). Does he want to be president?

    Hey, John, my friend, here’s a suggestion:

    STOP BEING A FRETFUL POLLYANNA AND RUN LIKE YOU REALLY, REALLY WANT TO BE PRESIDENT.

    Okay? :roll:

  59. #59
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Rusty said:

    This has always been a problem with Republicans, they play too nice.

    Hahahahahaha. You can’t be serious. The Jeese Helms “Hands” ad? The Chambliss ad accusing a disfigured war veteran of being unpatriotic? The Swift Boaters?

    Niceties have never been a concern of the Republican Party.

    But the thing is, and I think Mrs. Malkin and I agree on this, is that these tactics win elections. “Staying above the fray” doesn’t.

    Which is not to say that this ad is nearly as bad the three I mentioned.

  60. #60
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, allrsn said:

    If not for blogs, talk radio, and ads we would still have no clue as to Oboma is! We need these ads.

    Ads which point out truth are NOT smear ads. A smear is somthing based on a lie.

    Get it together McCain, we need to know the personalities of all the canidates.

  61. #61
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm, AlanKeyesForLife said:

    Jim M.. Thinking the very same thing myself.. this guy doesnt have a problem getting bad-a** with his own Party..but seems to bend over for the Left. All of this doesn’t pass the smell test.. right up to the part where McCain became the Nominee.. There is something more going on here than meets the Eye.

  62. #62
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm, allrsn said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Rusty said

    Are these the best examples you can come up with???

  63. #63
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm, love2rumba said:

    For Its Vintage Duh, post #2:

    The issue is that if John McCain is running for president, is he doing it for his country and his party (the people he expects to support him)-or to fill an already bloated resume while backslapping the prople that frankly kept the Republicans alive over the past 20 years since Reagan, and giving the Republicans power?

    I mean that what and where is the point of supporting a guy with whom you already agree with at best in part, when all he seems to want to do is have another remake of the Clinton-Dole fight of 1996 which was really more like a lovefest by insiders?

    John McCain already has a Beer fortune on tap, couldn’t he just get over his lust for power and let a better candidate fight for 2008?

    Is that so much to ask?

  64. #64
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “party hacks like you continue to look for the clouds.”
    nope, not a party hack, simply a pragmatist …

    um, RWR pulled out of lebanon and granted widespread amnesty. yet you still venerate him and curse his successors. curious, that …

    shillery’s comments on iran were not hawkish but rather foolish. JSM I expect will act like an adult in the WH.

  65. #65
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm, allrsn said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Jim M. said

    I am wondering what McCain may be hiding as well. It seems like he is trying to cut a deal “I won’t tell on you if you don’t tell on me”

    It won’t work of course. If he does have a serious skeleton to hide, the left will blow it out just before the election anyway.

  66. #66
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm, Buckaroo said:

    if JSM had a skeleton to hide, one of the gop candidates would have found it, the lll newspapers would have found it during the “lobbyist” fishing expedition, etc. etc.

    keating five? ancient history. his divorce and remarriage? ditto. sorry JSM bashers, his weak spots are the fact that you hate some of his policy positions, which he’s hardly hidden. and, not to rain toom uch worse on your parade, but a goodly portion of voters in this country don’t hate him like y’all do.

  67. #67
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm, libocrat said:

    First, Buckaroo and Soap Box are 2 of the most astute posters here.
    Vote Rodham get more Ginsburgs.
    Vote Obama get more Jeremiah Wrights.
    Hate McCain all you like, but given the choice of 2 sh!t sandwiches vs bologna, I’m taking the bologna.
    Cry, moan, flail your arms in an epileptic seizure, but in the words of RUSH, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”.
    I’m hungry and it isn’t the Sh!t sandwich that I’m having.

  68. #68
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm, Patriot1 said:

    he has NOT shifted on amnesty. all he has said is he would ask the governors of the border states to certify the border secured before he goes on to the next step.

    and we all know what that next step is.

    why else do you think he has that smiling phony open borders weasel juan hernandez as his advisor? of course, to help him get the amnesty thru as soon as the sham border security is declared.
    do you see Tancredo or Hunter as his immigration advisor? or even the head of numbersUSA?

    no, you see juan friggin hernandez. the biggest amnesty sellout there is.

    don’t try to hand us that garbage that McPain has changed his stance on amnesty. because he has NOT.

  69. #69
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm, Buckaroo said:

    then IF he hasn’t and tries something in ‘09, he gets it shot down just like we the people shot it down in ‘07 …

  70. #70
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm, Buckaroo said:

    lc

    thx. for the props and support …

  71. #71
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm, Buckaroo said:

    and bonus points for the “freewill” lyric …

  72. #72
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    Reagan did sign amnesty, reluctantly, and only with the promise that it was a one time deal. The congress agreed. Unfortunately congress did not secure the border and uphold the 1 time amensty. So I don’t blame Reagan fully for that.

    “party hacks like you continue to look for the clouds.”
    nope, not a party hack, simply a pragmatist … ” Hmmm. So you beleive the GOP has been a good party over past 2 decades and liek the direction the platform is headed in? If so, then you are part of the problem. Not the solution.

    And I disagree that HRC is foolish. She may be lying to gain moderates, but they all do that. If we are not going to stop any Iran nuclear weapons prgram, which I doubt as they all wnat ot “talk” with the insane heads of Iran, then we must make it very clear and in no uncertain terms that if Iran uses those weapons anywhere or develops missiles capable of reaching the US, we will retaliate massively and without pity. That is the only language these 7th cnetruy throwbacks understand.

  73. #73
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:59 pm, mistressjustice said:

    #59 Right On

    And Barack better learn how to fight it out a little bit dirtier(while still ethical), or Hillary will continue to kick him in the nads. This “above the fray” crap doesn’t work.(See Kerry v. Swiftboaters). Barack never should have given a pass on Hillary’s Bosnia lies during that last debate. Democrats want a fighter dangit, and Hillary flawed as she is, certainly is a fighter. Barack needs to change course, and get on offense.
    Even if McCain plans on running a clean issue oriented campaign, the democratic electorate knows there are more swiftboaters out there, and we don’t want to see 2004 all over again. The Clintons are fighters.

  74. #74
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    GOP and McCain — a bunch of girly men.

    I’ve had it. They just can’t handle the truth, can they!

  75. #75
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm, emjem24 said:

    Buckaroo said #39:

    I actually understand what you’re saying and many will not agree with you. I do agree with you but McCain makes it so hard to defend him. He’s gotta know he’s ticked off a lot of conservatives (including myself) on the issue of immigration.

    I see it as choosing somebody who doesn’t give a rat’s patooty about our country vs. someone who’s mildly interested in the interests of the US. Somedays it makes me wonder which one is Obummer and which is McCain.

    Buck, don’t get me wrong. I will probably vote for McCain. However, I was initally a Guiliani supporter then a Romney supporter. I feel like we need a whole heluva lot of new blood in the Republican Party.

    McCain may gain more traction with Conservatives if he supports term limits. Oh, man, could we use term limits right about now. :roll:

  76. #76
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Rusty said:
    Hahahahahaha. You can’t be serious. The Jeese Helms “Hands” ad? The Chambliss ad accusing a disfigured war veteran of being unpatriotic? The Swift Boaters?

    I agree. This is the best you have? Pardon me for asking but, didn’t the “Swift Boaters” do us a service? They were service men who saw and reported a fake. Thank God for them!

  77. #77
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, allrsn said:
    Ads which point out truth are NOT smear ads. A smear is somthing based on a lie.

    Close. A smear is something partially true and only showing the worst possible version of something. It also usually has a lot of inference not backed up by facts.

    For instance when the first four Abu Ghraib photos were released a caller to Rush’s show said they seen worse at a fraternity hazing, to which Rush agreed. After this the rest of the photos were released showing much worse treatment of the prisoners. At least two years later I heard Al Franken say on his radio show [snort!] that Rush thinks Abu Ghriab (meaning all of it) was no worse than a fraternity hazing. Franken knows better, but perpetuated a half-truth to smear el Rushbo.

  78. #78
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Thank you McCain. Giving the back of your hand to people who support you so as to further court favor with the media and with the left truly shows what a haughty, irascible old turd you are.

    And there is nothing low or distasteful in this ad whatsoever. But you want to help again in painting conservatives as bigots who should shut up.

    You freakin’ moron. You think you are a genius, because you have been the luckiest candidate in the history of presidential politics. Your present prosperity is totally a result of the disarray first in the GOP field and now among the Dems. But, my friend, the media will be coming for you in due time.

    You really do know how to mend your fences with the base, McCain. You ***LOVE*** being the maverick who tells your own side to shut up. Well, I remind everyone yet again of my own motto…

    Maverick candidate…meet maverick voter!

  79. #79
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm, bit_boy said:
    re: Buckaroo #50 - are you actually stupid enough to believe that?

    I may have embellished McSame’s answer to early release. Actually the Viets did offer him early release in honor of McSames father and grand father but McSame refused because there were other prisoners who had been there longer than him so they deserved early release before him.

    The depth of your adhominem is truly impressive. How long did it take you to think that one up.

  80. #80
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pm, Patriot1 said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm, Buckaroo said:

    then IF he hasn’t and tries something in ‘09, he gets it shot down just like we the people shot it down in ‘07 …

    we shot it down yes, but they immediately went back and tried to pass it in smaller bites in other bills.

    it is neverending. it is like terrorist bombs. they only have to get their way once. we have to stop it over and over again. and that is becoming harder because of RINO sellouts.

    and pandering to hispanics has become so entrenched now even among the GOP that they cannot be trusted either. like Bush, McCain, Kyl, Graham, etc etc etc

  81. #81
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm, wighttrasch said:

    ‘Swift Boaters’–you mean those guys who told the truth? And made Monsieur Kerry stamp his feet in impotent rage?

  82. #82
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Re: Maverick ROOSTER at #16:

    Yo, Rooster…if you were referring to me, the line ain’t copyrighted. I ripped if off from someone somewhere. I use it in HOPES of it catching on, because I think it captures in a nifty way, what many of us feel. I wish somebody would make bumper stickers.

    Your friend,
    Maverick Iggy

    Maverick candidate, meet maverick voter!

  83. #83
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Romeo13 said:

    So, John McCain is once more stifleing Free Speech in the political arena?

    Why am I soooo NOT suprised…

    And… just out of curiosity, when did he get elected to speak for the ENTIRE Republican party? He’s a candidate for POTUS, not God…

  84. #84
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm, Jim M. said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm, Buckaroo said:
    if JSM had a skeleton to hide, one of the gop candidates would have found it, the lll newspapers would have found it during the “lobbyist” fishing expedition, etc. etc.

    keating five? ancient history. his divorce and remarriage? ditto. sorry JSM bashers, his weak spots are the fact that you hate some of his policy positions, which he’s hardly hidden. and, not to rain toom uch worse on your parade, but a goodly portion of voters in this country don’t hate him like y’all do.

    I do not recall stating anything in my post about McCain’s policies or “hating” him. I was noting that this was a rather odd position for him to take given (1) the ad involves a state election and does not involve him, (2) he recently nailed Obama on the Ayers connection himself, (3) the ad focues on the topic of judgment, character and integrity, which should be central to the electability of any candidate, and (4) the ad is a free expression of views under the First Amendment and fully complies with McCain’s own Frankenstein campaign finance creation.

    So my observation was that he seemed to be protesting a little too much, especially in light of the fact that it does not promote McCain, it does shed light on issues which should be of major concern to voters, McCain himself has engaged in similar conduct and even Republicans are still recognized as having freedom of speech. So, based on observations that appear to paint his protest of the ad as somewhat hypocritical, one wonders whether the motivation for attempting to limit free speech here involved some personal risk.

    I highly doubt that everything of an adverse nature was vetted in the primaries. I would certainly hope that was the case, but it is doubtful.

    You are entitled to your view that McCain is as pure as the driven snow, but it seems you can express those thoughts without going negative on the other members here. Heck, you may even want to try something novel and string together some facts wrapped in some logic to actually proffer a rational thought.

  85. #85
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I was initally a Guiliani supporter then a Romney supporter”

    and i went from duncan to fred to mitt. we chose to give the voters in about 1/2 the states [up to and including super duper ultra mega tuesday] the power in this go ’round, and this is what it got us. i’d simly rather focus positive energy on getting a man I can support and be proud of his bio into the office MUCH, MUCH more than a truly bitter person [one of each gender, one of each race, all hail identity politics!] on the other side of the ballot.

  86. #86
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I may have embellished”

    gee, wotta shock …

  87. #87
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080423/pl_bloomberg/a5d4rqyixmww

    Don’t know how to paste as link so C&P.

    “McCain Vows War on Poverty, Says Nation in Recession”

    So mcamnesty is not fiscally conservative as the article above shows. He is an open borders nut. So remind me again, on what issue he is conservative? He is carrying the LBJ torch now. So he will grow gov’t entitlements, spend like crazy to combat poverty, all the while bringing in more impoverished immigrants that will suck off gov’t teat, and give amnesty to 30M illegals which are already sucking us dry so imagine what will happen when they are citizens. And who do you think will be asked to pay for all of this? Yep, the hard working American citizens of course. Electing mcamnesty will drive the final nail in the coffin for the conservative GOP movement.

  88. #88
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “If so, then you are part of the problem”

    like the people who “sat out!” ‘06 and gave us speaker san fran nan?

  89. #89
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm, libocrat said:

    Once again Soap Box hits it on the head.
    Our liberal friends must have been hitting the bong with Barry Obama.
    The SWIFT BOAT VETERANS served in Viet Nam, many of them were wounded (real wounds, not HEINZ CATSUP wounds) and many were prisoners of war. Liberals would have you believe that John Kerry is honest and this large group of distinguished vets is not. I have always sensed that even liberals know what a FRAUD John Kerry is. If you cannot see through John Kerry Kohn Heinz, you may not be smart enough to tie your shoes.
    Libs are you all wearing loafers.

    Loafers!! That’s funny.

  90. #90
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm, Buckaroo said:

    dude, did you even read the 1st sentence?

    “pledged to mount a war on poverty different from that waged by the former Democratic president”

    /ai yi yi, this is the vanguard of the right side of the ’sphere?

  91. #91
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm, Buckaroo said:

    and yes, i certainly would like to see JSM support term limits. I, however, am not holding my breath …

  92. #92
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “McCain is as pure as the driven snow”

    um, show me where i wrote that …

    /back atcha …

  93. #93
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm, its vintage duh said:

    #63 love2rumba

    I’m not saying McCain shouldn’t hit Obama with this in the general election, I’m saying that he should stay out of it while the Dem primary is going on.

    If I remember correctly, a McCain aide has even said that they will do this. It’s not smart to play this card so soon.

  94. #94
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Nonsense. It’s a idiotic strategy to convince more rank-and-file Republicans to stop giving money to the Beltway GOP elite.

    They had me at “McCain”…

  95. #95
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm, Phiber0p said:

    “I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,”

    In other words “I don’t want to piss off my [in the closet] friends. Because you all know I’m a true libocrap at heart”

  96. #96
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    Buckaroo, dude, yea I read it. You read the article moron. You are the new vanguard for the GOP? God help us the party is lost.

    Oh, a “differnt” war. Oh then it must be ok. How is it different? It is spending taxpayer $ on HEALTH care (where have I heard that) as well as many other things the gov’t should not be providing. Where does that $ come from? Is that not growing gov’t sphere of influence? The whole freaking article is about employing LIBERAL policies. Unless you are a “compassionate conservative”. You know the new conservative. You know what. Vote how you like. But I will not validate the GOP liberal platform by voting for mccain.

  97. #97
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, Phiber0p said:

    Can you tell I’m bitter?

    /snuggles up with firearms and Bible

  98. #98
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, USMCgramma said:

    We have early voting in NC so will vote “No Preference” in Primary. Also returned McCain’s fund raising letter with a note to that effect. It said he “wanted” to do this and that - no commitment from him, no commitment from us.

  99. #99
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm, Bruce said:

    Just thinking about John McCain makes me want to puke.

    I despise McCain more than I despise Clinton or Obama. That’s why I have committed to being a suicide voter in November. Not only will I NOT vote for McCain, I will vote AGAINST him by voting for the Democrat.

    I have never voted for a Democrat before, so I am attending a suicide voter training camp to prepare for my mission.

  100. #100
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm, Donut44 said:

    A third party candidate stands no chance in this election, but a fourth party candidate does! Let’s keep this Obama/Clinton machine rolling as long as possible. We can only hope the Clinton steal this election and the Obamians get pissed enough to put up someone else. Then we can too and have a good ‘ol four person race.

  101. #101
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    #99…LOL
    Excellent, Bruce! VERY strong!

    No need for this milquetoast sit-it-out kind of protest. I am right there with you. (Besides, I need to go to the polls so I can vote for all the downticket GOP candidates, even the ones who don’t deserve it.)

  102. #102
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    Last post today from me and on this subject period. As Jim M said above Buckaroo, your only argument for voting for mcamnesty is “at least he is a republican”. Rather than attack everyone who is looking at mccain’s body of work over the last few years and deciding he is nothing but a liberal, convince us. As Jim M said, “Heck, you may even want to try something novel and string together some facts wrapped in some logic to actually proffer a rational thought.” Have good evening all.

  103. #103
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 pm, Bruce said:

    Just thinking about John McCain makes me want to puke.

    I despise McCain more than I despise Clinton or Obama. That’s why I have committed to being a suicide voter in November. Not only will I NOT vote for McCain, I will vote AGAINST him by voting for the Democrat.

    I have never voted for a Democrat before, so I am attending a suicide voter training camp to prepare for my mission.

    Funny thing is, I said something along those lines just a few minutes ago in another post. The exception was that I’m not voting FOR McCain I’m voting AGAINST Obama or Hillary. (you know to at least feel good that I voted and did something)
    I had tossed around another option though, that depending on what he’s [McCain]“COMMITTED” to come election day, I may vote Democrat. The thought process behind that is, that if someone is going to screw this country even worse then it is, I’d prefer it be a Democrat. At least it may save the Republican party for not being the smoking gun.

  104. #104
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Chief RZ said:

    John is taking the high road, which is where we need to keep our focus, on the President of the United States, what it means and what it should be.
    If the NC GOP wants to run an ad, they can, but I would suggest Barrack’s association with the terrorist, Ayers.

  105. #105
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, AlanKeyesForLife said:

    Bruce..Would that be Part 2 of Operation Chaos? You may not of “Thought” you were voting Democrat but the last two elections were as close as it gets to not voting for one but putting One in office..

  106. #106
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “your only argument for voting for JSM is “at least he is a republican”"

    um, no, my main argument for voting for JSM in Nov. is his policies, as a rule [of which there are large exceptions], are good for this country. Either of the presumptive opponents’ policies, as a rule [with precious few exceptions] are VERY bad for this country.

  107. #107
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Trollman said:

    Bruce said:

    Just thinking about John McCain makes me want to puke.

    I despise McCain more than I despise Clinton or Obama. That’s why I have committed to being a suicide voter in November. Not only will I NOT vote for McCain, I will vote AGAINST him by voting for the Democrat.

    I have never voted for a Democrat before, so I am attending a suicide voter training camp to prepare for my mission.

    Eeeewwww! I can’t vote for McCain either, but I will never vote for a Democrat. At least write in Tancredo or something!

    Like Iggy, except for McCain, I will vote down the line for Republicans. Even though some of those Republicans probably won’t deserve it, ever since the Democrats have determined to sell us out in the war on terror, no one in that party will ever get my vote.

  108. #108
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    The open borders POS will get his head handed to him in November. Thank God!

  109. #109
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “I can’t vote for McCain either”

    and what way too many of you here either don’t get [or simply wish to ignore] is that such an action is a DE FACTO vote for hillbama — and yes, since i find that to be a stupid act, i’m “attacking” those people — suck.it.up.

  110. #110
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:14 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    I just saw Chrissy Matthews and friends do a segment on this ad.

    Chrissy was having a hissy fit over what he predictably saw as racism.

    His panel, lead by a black reporter from the Washington Post, set him straight. They told him that you can not cry racism over every political ad that shows Obama’s non-white face. All three panelists agreed: the Post guy, a woman from Salon, and a guy from Politico.

    I despise Matthews. They used to call his style of politics “waving the bloody shirt.” And, of course, you always tout your own high-mindedness when waving it…that’s part of the deal. What a jerk he is. He can’t even get the leftie guests on his own show to agree with him.

  111. #111
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm, Phiber0p said:

    um, no, my main argument for voting for JSM in Nov. is his policies, as a rule [of which there are large exceptions], are good for this country. Either of the presumptive opponents’ policies, as a rule [with precious few exceptions] are VERY bad for this country.

    Just to ask a question, what policies [aside from the one's that he's flip-flopped on because he thinks that's what we want to hear] are good for this country? I may not have been paying attention with all the other crap going on. I’m tired of settling for the lesser of 2 evils, but again what other choice do we have? I’ll still vote against any Democrat that’s running, but McCain don’t get my vote because he’s got great policies.

  112. #112
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm, USMCgramma said:

    #93 Since our primary is so late, you are absolutely right. We need to get the Democrats out of state government (last count 21 were in prison) and McCain needs to butt out of this.

  113. #113
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Buckaroo said:

    If I have to pick one, he’s one of the sole members of congress who actually doesn’t “over-pork” and will do something about spending.

    Close behind that, a sane Iraq policy, along with it an overall no-nonsense foreign policy [esp. w/ regard to size & readiness of the armed branches] that will make assad, lil’ kim, etc. not very comfortable at all.

    I’d also add solid social con credentials — pro-life, defense of marraige act, pro-2nd amend., constructionist judges, etc.

    for kicks, I’ll include this page
    tho i’m sure many here will simply rip apart the usual campaign mealy-mouth lingo [which yeah, it has, that's the way life works]

  114. #114
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, franksalterego said:

    Another “McCain is a poopy-head” blog post.

    ho-hum

  115. #115
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Buckaroo said:

    Thank you.

  116. #116
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm, flmom said:

    Rusty
    Thanks to soap and others the ’swift boating’ reference you made has been answered, the Chambliss ad never called Cleland ‘unpatriotic’, but rather pointed out the fact that Cleland had voted against Bush’s creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security several times, again, a case of the left crying foul when the truth is shown. As for Helm’s ‘hand’ ad, I do not know enough about it to comment, but 2 out of 3 isn’t bad.
    It’s all well and good to be above the fray, if you’re Jesus, but it irritates me no end to when the Republicans refuse to play by the same rules as the Democrats. Remember the New York Slimes non-story story insinuating McCain trading political favors for sexual favors? A perfect example of what is in store for JM when the Dems have decided on their nominee.
    Sorry to be so late to answer, was cooking dinner, have to eat sometimes.

  117. #117
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “A perfect example of what is in store for JM when the Dems have decided on their nominee”

    and when that occurs, measures will be taken as needed …

  118. #118
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm, Speakup said:

    distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,” said McCain

    If he thinks his differences with the Democrats will assure that he wins in November then John McCain has one helluva lot of work to do.
    Conservative work, law and order work.

    Both liberal candidates are deeply flawed and showing their weaknesses and even just how eccentric they really are is an obligation to the American people.

  119. #119
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:55 pm, franksalterego said:

    “I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats,”

    I would think, we’d be making positive comments about this.

    MDS is eerily similar to BDS…You know the disease…”No matter what the candidate says or does, it’s wrong.”

  120. #120
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    On April 23rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm, franksalterego said at 114:

    Another “McCain is a poopy-head” blog post.

    ho-hum

    I often feel, Frank, that in these time we are all like stars and planets in the universe, continuously moving away from each other. It is a fact of modern times — but especially since the Internet — that we all have the ability to become a little expert at a lot of things. Truly, we know a lot. And we live in a time when independence is prized and supported by the culture. We speak right up with our opinions.

    I am at least as independent in my own thinking as the average pajama monkey. I find it pretty hard to join in any parade, to follow any leader very far, to stick with a church or political party or talkshow host or even a movie reviewer!

    Sometimes this leaves me feeling rather alone. And I wonder if it is a merely a common human delusion that my opinions and reactions to the passing parade proceed from a coherent viewpoint. Could it be that a lot of what I feel is just willful, self-assertive randomness? Would I not be so angry at McCain if I had not had pepperonis on my pizza?

    And then — from time to time — I find some writer or thinker or pundit who very closely mirrors my own reactions. I am pretty much okay with the whole three-legged set of conservative issues, but there are some that are real important to me and a few others that I just lamely support. But there is nothing in the conservative basket that I don’t have at least some sympathy with. It is a very reassuring thing to come across someone like MM who, for me, seems closely to mirror not just my checklist but the emphasis and nuances of how I see things. (Laura Ingraham also does this for me. Over the years, I have felt this way ~at times~ about George Will and about Pat Buchanan.)

    So I thank Michelle for her “McCain is a poopy-head” thread. And I thank her for the immigration threads of the last few days. Michelle (like Laura I.) is clearly a very smart and insightful observer of our culture and politics and historical moment. To me, she is a little like a beacon sending out a signal of rationality in a chaotic world against which I can check and recalibrate my own attitudes. My political party has been hijacked by self-serving pols led by an open-borders crank who is helping to destroy this country. I need a few beacons of sanity like MM assuring me that I have not lost my mind and am not alone in the universe.

    I am sorry that you either disagree with MM’s views on McCain or — for whatever reason — would prefer for her to stifle herself and go along with wherever the Washington hacks want to lead us. I really, really appreciate the relentless way she sticks to her guns. She does this, because she is rational and coherent in her thinking. She can not/will not just bump along with the crowd. And I thank her very much. And when I read her, I am reassured that it is not me that is getting nuts…it is the world.

  121. #121
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm, franksalterego said:

    Ignatius Reilly On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Fine,

    Then you just stay home on election day…And, when they play Hail to the Chief, and Obama walks in, you won’t be held responsible…You won’t be held accountable…You can just shrug your shoulders, and claim “I din’t do it”

    And, when the economy is in chaos, you can claim “It’s not my fault”…When they come to dip into your wallet, you can invite them to help themselves.

    And, when there’s a smoking crater, where St. Louis used to be, you can say “Don’t blame me”

    The stark reality is, you’re not gonna’ get a fence, no matter WHO you don’t vote for.

    And, when the sh!t hits the fan, I would hope, you’ll be the LAST one to complain.

  122. #122
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 7:56 pm, franksalterego said:

    It’s no small irony, that the person who made “Moonbat” a household name, has turned into one.

  123. #123
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:04 pm, rightisright said:

    It baffles me as to what it is McCain has said in the last few years that would make anyone believe he is the fix it man, please help us non-believers understand why everything he says is moderate to liberal but everything will be better? Sorry, I don’t see it that way.
    I won’t be voting for a dem no doubt, more than likely not for Juan either, down the ticket conservatively in hopes enough conservs in congress can keep grip on which ever lib is in the WH., Juan included.

  124. #124
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:18 pm, pubscout said:

    Who cares what McCain thinks? Run the ad.

  125. #125
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Buckaroo said:

    again, you don’t vote, you de facto vote for the donk.

    everything he says is moderate to liberal? If you think winning in Iraq is such, well, gee, where are all the rest of the “moderates” on that one?

  126. #126
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 pm, tarpon said:

    Senior McCain, your new tone 2 reminds me of Bob “it’s his turn” Dole 1 without the drive, energy and charisma of the original. Didn’t learn a thing from new tone 1 did you.

  127. #127
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:40 pm, libocrat said:

    Pubscout, no offense friend, but if you don’t vote, you let others decide your fate. Not real smart.

  128. #128
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm, Bruce said:

    It’s good to know that somewhere in North Carolina exist some Republicans that still want the best for America.

    What a disgusting SHAME John McCain is!

    What a disgusting SHAME the RNC is!

  129. #129
    On April 23rd, 2008 at 8:53 pm, rooster said:

    Remind me why it’s in our best interest to keep voting for these idiotic RINO’s?