Comments on: Virtual fence scrapped: $20 million down the drain http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:00:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michelle Malkin » Smugglers recruiting another elite spec-ops unit http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-303545 Michelle Malkin » Smugglers recruiting another elite spec-ops unit Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:40:58 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-303545 [...] we’re not in quite so big a hurry to build our own fence, and when the stopgap virtual fence flamed out, everyone just shrugged and said “Hey, whatcha gonna [...] [...] we’re not in quite so big a hurry to build our own fence, and when the stopgap virtual fence flamed out, everyone just shrugged and said “Hey, whatcha gonna [...]

]]> By: Joemantler http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-300039 Joemantler Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:36:35 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-300039 I'm glad they are scrapping it if it doesn't work. If only they would do the same with Social Security, etc... I’m glad they are scrapping it if it doesn’t work. If only they would do the same with Social Security, etc…

]]> By: Buckaroo http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298769 Buckaroo Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:20:53 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298769 hey michelle, serious question -- if you indeed destest the dhs so much, why the hell do you accept their $$ so they can run banner ads at the top of your page?! hey michelle, serious question — if you indeed destest the dhs so much, why the hell do you accept their $$ so they can run banner ads at the top of your page?!

]]> By: The Dustin Inman Society Blog » Michelle Malkin on the virtual fence http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298623 The Dustin Inman Society Blog » Michelle Malkin on the virtual fence Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:17:48 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298623 [...] HERE [...] [...] HERE [...]

]]> By: Uncle Ralph http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298548 Uncle Ralph Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:57:27 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298548 ? Boeing? $20 million? A'virtual' fence? Just go ask Steve if he's <a href="http://www.virginmedia.com/movies/movieextras/top10s/top-ten-movie-action-heroes.php?ssid=4" rel="nofollow">done with this one</a>. It's real. And it'd work (better'n what we're getting). ?
Boeing?
$20 million?
A’virtual’ fence?

Just go ask Steve if he’s done with this one.
It’s real.
And it’d work (better’n what we’re getting).

]]> By: Concerned Citizen http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298494 Concerned Citizen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:50:26 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298494 If Bush/Rove really were responsible for even half of the things that the left credited them with, would you want to speak out against them? If Bush/Rove really were responsible for even half of the things that the left credited them with, would you want to speak out against them?

]]> By: John Ansell http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298486 John Ansell Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:40:31 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298486 <blockquote>Concerned Citizen said: If a parent takes a child into an area clearly marked as a minefield, any injury that results is 100% the fault of the parent. Or are you one of those people who believe the automaker should be sued when a parent leaves their kid in a locked car and he/she dies? Every single bad thing that happens is not somebody elses fault. It’s called personal responsibility and it’s what made this country strong. The lack of it will be its downfall.</blockquote> Using logic and fact with a liberal doesn't work. It's like throwing water on a cat. Blame Bush and they buy in.

Concerned Citizen said:
If a parent takes a child into an area clearly marked as a minefield, any injury that results is 100% the fault of the parent. Or are you one of those people who believe the automaker should be sued when a parent leaves their kid in a locked car and he/she dies?

Every single bad thing that happens is not somebody elses fault. It’s called personal responsibility and it’s what made this country strong. The lack of it will be its downfall.

Using logic and fact with a liberal doesn’t work. It’s like throwing water on a cat. Blame Bush and they buy in.

]]> By: Concerned Citizen http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298476 Concerned Citizen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:28:57 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298476 <blockquote>On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm, dakine said: CC, “delicate sensibilities”? Are you good with blowing up little kids as well as part of your master plan to secure the border? No legal or moral issues raised by killing border crossers on site. </blockquote> If a parent takes a child into an area clearly marked as a minefield, any injury that results is 100% the fault of the parent. Or are you one of those people who believe the automaker should be sued when a parent leaves their kid in a locked car and he/she dies? Every single bad thing that happens is not somebody elses fault. It's called personal responsibility and it's what made this country strong. The lack of it will be its downfall.

On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm, dakine said:
CC, “delicate sensibilities”? Are you good with blowing up little kids as well as part of your master plan to secure the border? No legal or moral issues raised by killing border crossers on site.

If a parent takes a child into an area clearly marked as a minefield, any injury that results is 100% the fault of the parent. Or are you one of those people who believe the automaker should be sued when a parent leaves their kid in a locked car and he/she dies?

Every single bad thing that happens is not somebody elses fault. It’s called personal responsibility and it’s what made this country strong. The lack of it will be its downfall.

]]> By: LOBOMAN http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298384 LOBOMAN Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:11:55 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298384 All I want to see is the person(s) that signed off on this project get fired!! When the gvmt starts holding people accountable, maybe they will be more diligent in their decisions. (one can dream cant they)..... All I want to see is the person(s) that signed off on this project get fired!! When the gvmt starts holding people accountable, maybe they will be more diligent in their decisions. (one can dream cant they)…..

]]> By: publiuswarmac9999 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298274 publiuswarmac9999 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:05:52 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298274 I would like to point out one flaw in many arguments I have seen. It is the flaw of "it's for or about the children". The problem with this argument is that it assumes that children are not the responsibility of their parents but of some remote everyone. My take is that if you, as a parent, knowingly place your child in harms way - and the Muslim fanatics as well as the illegal border crossers do this all the time - then you are responsible for what happens to them if violence occurs. Therefore, if you know that a shoot to kill order exists and you then put your child in a position to be a target or human shield, you should take the shame, humiliation and ugliness of your decisions with you to the grave and to the graves of your children. I would like to point out one flaw in many arguments I have seen. It is the flaw of “it’s for or about the children”. The problem with this argument is that it assumes that children are not the responsibility of their parents but of some remote everyone. My take is that if you, as a parent, knowingly place your child in harms way – and the Muslim fanatics as well as the illegal border crossers do this all the time – then you are responsible for what happens to them if violence occurs.

Therefore, if you know that a shoot to kill order exists and you then put your child in a position to be a target or human shield, you should take the shame, humiliation and ugliness of your decisions with you to the grave and to the graves of your children.

]]> By: publiuswarmac9999 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298252 publiuswarmac9999 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:56:10 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298252 The virtual fence could have worked if it was backed by real force. Unfortunately, if you are a border patrol agent, whether human or robotic, you cannot employ force to do anything other than repair holes in whatever barrier actually exists. If the US Government really wanted to stop illegal immigration, then a real show of real force would have occurred years ago. Frankly, as things stand today, a show of force will not occur under any circumstances short of a military invasion by Mexico. As long as civilian illegals are involved, mostly passive measures will be taken. (Unfortunately, some of those civilian illegals are criminals and some are terrorist plants.) The virtual fence could have worked if it was backed by real force. Unfortunately, if you are a border patrol agent, whether human or robotic, you cannot employ force to do anything other than repair holes in whatever barrier actually exists.

If the US Government really wanted to stop illegal immigration, then a real show of real force would have occurred years ago. Frankly, as things stand today, a show of force will not occur under any circumstances short of a military invasion by Mexico. As long as civilian illegals are involved, mostly passive measures will be taken. (Unfortunately, some of those civilian illegals are criminals and some are terrorist plants.)

]]> By: John Ansell http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298235 John Ansell Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:41:31 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298235 <blockquote>On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, Blind_Mule said: DHS and lettuce head are totally incompetent, I’m not even sure they know how to tie their shoes,</blockquote> They still celebrate the anniversary of the creation of velcro

On April 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, Blind_Mule said:
DHS and lettuce head are totally incompetent, I’m not even sure they know how to tie their shoes,

They still celebrate the anniversary of the creation of velcro

]]> By: Weary Citizen http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298203 Weary Citizen Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:19:40 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298203 On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm, dakine said: As for me, yea I am ok with that. If they are given sufficient warning, and continue forward (with their children) then they are to blame, not us. A few would probably die since they see us as weak on this issue (ie they take full advantage of our compassion). But rest assured, once word got out, illegal crossings woudl cease. This is an invasion and needs to stop by all means available. My compassion for them stopped about 29M illegals ago. And what kind of person drags their children across a desert? On April 23rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm, dakine said:

As for me, yea I am ok with that. If they are given sufficient warning, and continue forward (with their children) then they are to blame, not us. A few would probably die since they see us as weak on this issue (ie they take full advantage of our compassion). But rest assured, once word got out, illegal crossings woudl cease. This is an invasion and needs to stop by all means available. My compassion for them stopped about 29M illegals ago. And what kind of person drags their children across a desert?

]]> By: dakine http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298158 dakine Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:44:32 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298158 CC, "delicate sensibilities"? Are you good with blowing up little kids as well as part of your master plan to secure the border? No legal or moral issues raised by killing border crossers on site. cRus, I'd be interested in your thoughts on that point also. CC, “delicate sensibilities”? Are you good with blowing up little kids as well as part of your master plan to secure the border? No legal or moral issues raised by killing border crossers on site. cRus, I’d be interested in your thoughts on that point also.

]]> By: Alphonse http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-298097 Alphonse Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:08:07 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/23/virtual-fence-scrapped-20-million-down-the-drain/#comment-298097 With the Coyote-in-Chief, Juan McCain, Baksheesh Hussein Óbama, and Jillary Clintón all totally corrupt on enforcement of immigration laws, I wouldn't look for any improvement soon. With the Coyote-in-Chief, Juan McCain, Baksheesh Hussein Óbama, and Jillary Clintón all totally corrupt on enforcement of immigration laws, I wouldn’t look for any improvement soon.

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