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Does Howard Dean run the RNC?; Update: Jeremiah whines

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 24, 2008 01:36 PM

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1adean.jpg Howard Dean smells an opening.

Seizing on the heavy-handed response of John McCain and the RNC to the completely unobjectionable anti-Obama ad by the North Carolina GOP I spotlighted yesterday, Dean is now pressing McCain further on the issue–and claiming that if McCain doesn’t succeed in forcing the state party to withdraw its ad, it’s a failure of his “leadership” (read: bullying) skills.

The DNC has sent out this e-mail to supporters:

While the McCain campaign made a show of protesting the ad, McCain made no mention of the fact that key officials in the North Carolina GOP are members of McCain’s state steering committee and McCain donors.

Nor did he mention the fact that the state chair who is bucking his leadership is a member of the arrangements committee of the Republican National Convention. Given his ties to state Republican leaders, if McCain is serious about making sure this ad never airs, he should have no trouble making it happen. If not, McCain should return their contributions, remove them from his campaign committees, and strip the state chair from her role on the GOP’s convention committee.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean today issued the following statement calling on McCain to exercise real leadership and pull the plug on this ad:

“This is a test of leadership for John McCain. If he can’t pick up the phone and make members of his own party stop airing a television ad he claims to oppose, how can he lead our country through an economic crisis or the war in Iraq? After shifting his positions on gun control, immigration and tax cuts throughout this campaign, McCain should not equivocate on this issue. Making a show of releasing your emails to the press is not leadership. If he is serious, he will get this ad pulled.”

McCain and the Beltway GOP elite have no one to blame but themselves for engineering this debacle. They’re delusional in trying to put a positive spin on the episode. See the RNC’s superiority complex pose at David Brody’s blog. If grass-roots conservatives have been left with the impression that Howard Dean runs the RNC, it’s not because of anything Howard Dean has said and done over the last 24 hours.

NC blogger Katy Benningfield provides some local reporting and insights:

The phone is ringing off the hook at NC GOP headquarters and the money is said to be rolling in, but it’s not enough. Our party needs more and they need YOUR contribution to get this ad off the Internet and ON THE AIR. Contribute online, here.

The state party is apparently receiving threats, as the Raleigh Police Department has been guarding NC GOP headquarters all day. The doors to the Hillsborough Street building are locked. After the firebombing of the same structure by anarchists a few years back, they’ve learned to expect the unexpected.

This is making national news and Katy’s Conservative Corner has never been more proud to be a North Carolina Republican than today.


John Hood
shares more NC analysis.

Meanwhile, TV station WRAL has rejected the ad. The article doesn’t say on what grounds they made the rejection.

Here it is again. Always happy to remind you of who the real extremists are:

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John Hawkins at Right Wing News to RNC: “Weenies.”

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Update: Excerpts of Jeremiah Wright’s therapy session with Bill Moyers are trickling out…

In his first wide-ranging interview since video clips of his inflammatory sermons were aired, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. defended himself over the controversy, saying that his words were twisted.

Mr. Wright, Senator Barack Obama’s former pastor, gave an interview to Bill Moyers on Wednesday, to air on PBS tomorrow.

“I felt it was unfair,” Mr. Wright said, according to excerpts of the interview released Thursday. “I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt for those who were doing that, were doing it for some very devious reasons.”

In Mr. Wright’s sermons, he suggested that Americans bore some responsibility for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, saying “America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” He also blamed the government for the spread of AIDS among African-Americans, characterized the United States government as corrupt and referred to the “U.S. of K.K.K. A.”

He did not apologize or back away from his remarks in the interview, instead saying that people wanted to paint him as “some sort of fanatic.”

…When asked what the people who aired the clips “wanted to communicate,” Mr. Wright said, “I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ. And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate.”

Jeremiah Wright did a fantastic job of communicating that all on his own.

Now, everybody hush up. We’re being “not appropriate and helpful,” you know.

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Update: Allah has a vid clip of the Moyers-Wright therapy session.

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  1. #1
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, mymanpotsandpans said:

    I think that John McCain has the right to set the tone for his party, and it is a right he has earned through the primary votes.

  2. #2
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, mymanpotsandpans said:

    On the other hand, Howard Dean is the reason why I left the Democratic Party

  3. #3
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, zorro said:

    This is a test of leadership for John McCain.

    Score one for Howard Dean.

  4. #4
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, dejack said:

    When you don’t have a good explanation for your actions - criticize the person that brought it up. Classic Obama. Next up, everyone is a racist who finds the Rev. offensive.

  5. #5
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, Barry F. said:

    I still don’t see anything wrong with the ad being run by the NC GOP. Obama’s relationship with Wright, etc. is factual and fair game. And, if those down-ballot candidates have endorsed Obama, they have directly linked themselves and their campaigns to him. If they aren’t ashamed of Obama and Obama isn’t ashamed of his “friendly” affiliations, etc., what’s the big deal for Obama, the DNC, the RNC and/or McCain?

    And, I’ll say it again here….

    I hate to agree with Hillary Clinton on anything. But, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Obama isn’t feeling heat,…yet. Wait until the general election, if he wins the Dem nomination. And, if he can’t handle having his affiliations thrown up now, what’s he going to do when he is dealing with third world despots, etc.?

  6. #6
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, 29Victor said:

    Someone should tell Dean to get one of his nominee wannabee’s to drop out and stop tearing his party apart, or shut his trap.

  7. #7
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Does Howard Dean run the RNC?

    He might as well. The RNC would probably do better with fund raising. I know a lot of us conservative Republicans have given up sending money.

  8. #8
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, nyc123me said:

    I actually think this ad calling Obama “too extreme” would help him identify with the youth in NC (if they bother voting).. and the little cute-sounding grandma at the end doesn’t help the creators of the ad either.. in fact I almost laughed like it was some spoof on straight-laced old grannies! I see no reason to block the ad, but I don’t really think it will hurt Obama.. the way the announcer says “he’s just too extreme for NC”.. sorry but that makes me cringe, like, are you really being serious? heh.. imho they’re doing Obama a favor going live with this ad..

  9. #9
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, Barry F. said:
    I still don’t see anything wrong with the ad being run by the NC GOP.

    Fair enough. As long as we recognize that this is “Vote for Hillary” strategy by the NC GOP and not an ad against the state’s Democrat gubernatorial candidates.

    And interesting how the anti-Obama ad is getting far more national exposure since McCain denounced it. I wonder if that was the desired effect?

  10. #10
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, nyc123me said:

    heh seriously, does nobody else see it? Imagine SNL trying to create a skit to mock conservatives.. other than the very first bit, this ad is IT! lol..

  11. #11
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Voice of Reason said:

    Dean really isn’t a good candidate for discussion of leadership. If he were half the leader he thinks he is, he would have found a way to stop the uncivil war that is going on in his party … not that I am complaining about that war. The destruction of the Democrat party has been great entertainment. :-)

  12. #12
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    “This is a test of leadership for John McCain. If he can’t pick up the phone and make members of his own party stop airing a television ad he claims to oppose, how can he lead our country through an economic crisis or the war in Iraq?”

    Didn’t see this one coming. The enemy is running out of ammunition, quick give him some of ours. Idjit.

  13. #13
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, Barry F. said:

    I hate to agree with Hillary Clinton on anything. But, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Obama isn’t feeling heat,…yet. Wait until the general election, if he wins the Dem nomination.

    The precise reason that Rush Limbaugh has been encouraging Republicans to vote in the Democrat primaries is because the Republicans won’t bring up and emphasize these issues, and Hillary will.

  14. #14
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, ajmontana said:

    If nothing else this election year has sure pointed out some real losers we have trying to run this country for “We the People”
    It’s quite disgusting. Bunch of immature idiots if you ask me.

  15. #15
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, MacUser said:

    When I read that McCain opposed this ad, I knew it was a mistake.

    If he thinks that the Dems are going to play nice with him during the general election, he is an idiot.

    Now, he is being called out and I wonder how he is going to spin this into him looking good.

    If he pulls the ad, he is stuck with NOT running any negative ads in the general election.

    If he doesn’t pull the ad, he looks like an idiot now. (More than he already does.)

  16. #16
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Chard402003 said:

    Dean’s an idiot who engineered the Florida and Michigan debacles (read “failure of leadership”), Obama is not fit for office because he’s a baby and a socialist, Wright is an anti-white, anti-semetic mentor who is more dangerour than David Duke because he is successfully recruiting. They should all go drown themselves.

  17. #17
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Still think McCain is ready for prime time? Speak softly and carry a big stick. He should try it.

  18. #18
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, RightWing said:

    Michelle,

    You’re exactly right, “McCain and the Beltway GOP elite have no one to blame but themselves for engineering this debacle.” There was absolutely nothing wrong with that ad. And by no means was there anything racial. If McCain is going to cave on ads simply pointing the beliefs of his opponent then he is going to be in a world of trouble this fall.

  19. #19
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Howard “the scream” Dean must’ve overlooked that one pesky little thing called the 1st Amendment.

    Oh well.

  20. #20
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, Trollman said:

    OK now, which one is McCain and which one is Howard Dean?

    /weep for America

    Yeeaaarrggh!

  21. #21
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Whose side is McCain on?

  22. #22
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, jungatheart said:

    To: Howard Dean

    MSG: May the last peanut you eat be rotten.

  23. #23
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, rpg1616 said:

    Amazing. All this ad does is replay what Wright actually said. There is no negative spin or twisting of words. How could that be controversial?

  24. #24
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:
    Whose side is McCain on?

    He is trying to reach across the aisle – to Republicans. I hope that helps.

  25. #25
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, LauraC said:

    It IS a failure of his leadership, just like it was a failure of Huckabee’s leadership to not stop the push polling.

    But that’s the POINT. The commercial was made by conservatives, and McCain doesn’t lead conservatives. He may gain a lot of Dem votes by decrying conservatives, but he’s losing more people every day on the other end of the political spectrum.

  26. #26
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Soap,
    Thanks for clearing that one up. :-)

    _____________________________________

    Where’s all of the McCain supporters now?

  27. #27
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Drained Brain said:

    Rush said just this morning that this is largely an attempt by the “Drive-By Media” (e.g. Chris Matthews) to define and to limit free speech during the campaign. He’s right, as he is most of the time.

    Ultimately, anybody who argues anything against Obamarama will be described as a racist.

  28. #28
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, DelosWorld said:

    I’m beginning to think that the McCain campaign (and party under his “command”) will only need a very small tent to house all the occupants.

  29. #29
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, Mookie said:

    McCain won’t go negative because of what happened in South Carolina in 2000. Talk about chickens coming home to roost.

  30. #30
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, MacUser said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Whose side is McCain on?

    You know I really am beginning to wonder… Mexico’s?

    In any event, with this move, he just lost ANY positive thoughts I had built up for him over the past few weeks.

  31. #31
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:
    Where’s all of the McCain supporters now?

    lgm and Rusty are taking a break after getting soap in their eyes!

  32. #32
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, USMCgramma said:

    Since Raleigh is the state capital, it would not be surprising if the Democrats (led by Mike “invisible” Easley) would pressure WRAL to drop the ad. This election cycle is our chance to break the Democrat stranglehold in North Carolina and McCain’s stance has serious consequences.

  33. #33
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, mymanpotsandpans said:
    I think that John McCain has the right to set the tone for his party, and it is a right he has earned through the primary votes.

    Primaries he won with 20% Democrats voting in GOP Primaries.
    Yes, he has a right to set the tone.

    IF he wins in November.

    That is why I won’t be voting for him in November.

    Nobody can move the GOAL POSTS on the Right to the OLD CENTER except a winning GOP candidate.

    He ain’t better than a Democrat, to me. He is WORSE.

    And that is saying way too much.

    Punk McNasty. You guys want to give him his revenge.

    I’d rather see him pay the piper.

  34. #34
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, Vntnrse said:

    Personally I think it’s a perfect reason for me to send some money to the NCGOP and request that they keep the add on the air! I think I will, in fact! I can afford $10 for such an add!

  35. #35
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, Dave the Libertarian said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, mymanpotsandpans said:
    I think that John McCain has the right to set the tone for his party, and it is a right he has earned through the primary votes.

    The problem is that John McCain doesn’t have much political goodwill with his own party. He’s thumbed his nose at his own party so often, that when he starts sending the orders down to the lower ranks, he’s not getting a lot of respect. If he now capitulates to the DNC chairman, he’ll have even less pull with his own party. McCain better be crafting up a good response, telling Dean to mind his own business.

  36. #36
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, Mookie said:
    McCain won’t go negative because of what happened in South Carolina in 2000. Talk about chickens coming home to roost.

    I’m taking Ann Coulter’s word over Punk McNasty’s for what happened in SC in 2000, it’s in one of her January ‘08 articles.

    I think that Truth Squad is something he envied from Bill Clinton and his Bimbo Eruption Committee - and John McNasty is a man who LOVES his revenge on his POLITICAL ENEMIES.

  37. #37
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, libertybelle said:

    #23:

    It’s the same problem that Mark Steyn is having due to the “inflammatory,” “racist,” and “Islamophobic” elements in his book, America Alone. He just used real quotes from real people and real exerpts of the Koran and Islamic law, and yet he is being sued for hate speech…it’s crazy! We are committing racism and hate by showing video of a racist, hateful man preaching to thousands. That used to be called good reporting.

    I was just beginning to feel a little more supportive towards McCain as well…

  38. #38
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, Surveyor said:

    rpg1616:

    Amazing. All this ad does is replay what Wright actually said. There is no negative spin or twisting of words. How could that be controversial?

    Exactly! McCain scolded his own for daring to utter Barack’s middle name at a rally…(albeit several times over and over) but WTH? Like 30pcs said:

    who’s side is this guy on anyway?

    HUSSEIN…HUSSEIN…HUSSEIN. There….now sue me.

  39. #39
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Trollman said:

    Hey, hey! All you conservatives just need to “calm down.”

    /ducks

  40. #40
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, JohnS said:

    Could you imagine if Bush had a racist, hate-mongering “Reverend” like Obama does? Or if his bid for the Texas Governorship kickoff was held at the house of a known and admitted terrorist who was unrepentant? The left would be going bezerk with that news every minute of every day. But when it happens to one of their own…nothing to see here, move along.

    This is one of many reasons I left the Democrat party. The other is the way they stabbed Bush and our country in the back repeatedly in the War On Terrorism. I am from New York and I knew many people who lost their lives on 9/11, including one of my best friends who was married with two lovely little girls. The way the Democrat party has tried to undermine almost everything after that is the reason I will never vote Democrat again. However, I am an independent, not a Republican. It’s just that Republicans have some ideas I believe in (lower taxes, less Gov’t regulation, etc…)

  41. #41
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Larraby said:

    Here is a question for Howard Dean: Governor Dean: You are the chairman of the Democratic National Committee and Jimmy Carter is a former Democratic Party President and he is also a superdelegate to the Democratic National Committee. What steps did you take to prevent Carter from meeting with Hamas? Despite the nominal objections from Mrs. Clinton and Senator Obama, President Clinton went on the trip to meet with Hamas anyway. Doesn’t your failure to control Mr. Carter and your inability to persuade Mr. Carter not to meet with Hamas show a lack of leadership on your part? Are you, Governor Dean, so ineffectual that you can not prevent a prominent Democrat from meeting with leaders of a terrorist gang? Does the failure of Obama and Clinton to stop Carter from meeting with Hamas show a lack of leadership on their parts?

  42. #42
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:
    Still think McCain is ready for prime time? Speak softly and carry a big stick. He should try it.

    THAT is only HALF the issue…Dons of the Mafia do that quite well.

    It requires a man of INTEGRITY.

    McCain’s been carrying a BIG STICK for TOO LONG - Gang of 14, McCain Feingold Thompson, McCain Kennedy Shamnesty, Anti-Torture Amendment, demands crash course on DISCOURAGING TORTURE in the American Military…

    And if people followed his preaching to its natural conclusion, if it is wrong to publish anti-Obama, anti-Democrat ADS - then it must be equally wrong to VOTE AGAINST Obama.

    I think a LOT of Conservatives will take his advice and do that very thing.

    I’ll be voting for a WRITE-IN CANDIDATE, though.

  43. #43
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Trollman said:
    Hey, hey! All you conservatives just need to “calm down.”

    /ducks

    This is as calm as it will ever get for McNasty.

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    Numbers 16

    When the good Lord sees fit to relieve us of our pain, then we will rejoice with great rejoicing.

    McNasty won’t be the guest of honor at our celebration.

  44. #44
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, tre said:

    These “Mallard Fillmore” comics say it bette than I ever could.

    http://jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard041408.asp

  45. #45
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, Mookie said:

    I’m taking Ann Coulter’s word over Punk McNasty’s for what happened in SC in 2000, it’s in one of her January ‘08 articles.

    Punk McNasty?

    The man was a prisoner of war and is an American hero. He deserves more respect than that.

  46. #46
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, Mohawk said:

    You know I want to comment on this but I fear that I will be labeled a racist. You know the PC movement that does not allow anyone of the white race to comment on the racist tendencies of other races.

    As a matter of fact I think people want me to apologize for being white even though I had nothing to do with segregation, Jim Crow laws or slavery.

    Such a sad state that Americans are in due to the fact that we cannot seem to learn from the past and move forward.

    We cannot change the past.

  47. #47
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Larraby said:

    Good point.

  48. #48
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, Mookie said:

    I’m taking Ann Coulter’s word over Punk McNasty’s for what happened in SC in 2000, it’s in one of her January ‘08 articles.

    Punk McNasty?

    The man was a prisoner of war and is an American hero. He deserves more respect than that.

    He deserves and has gotten respect for his service. However, that no more excuses his current conduct than Obama’s color excuses his.

  49. #49
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Jaded said:

    I personally just donated to the NC GOP and hope everyone who believes that this is the perfect ad for now and later in the general to do the same…..make the national GOP recognize that the money comes from the grassroots and the grassroots is itching for a fight against this Marxist.

  50. #50
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    I invite the usual liberals who comment here to explain how it is possible to twist the words “God damn America”.

    As BO said, words have meaning. He’s right. I know exactly what Wright meant.

  51. #51
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, franksalterego said:

    Well, I’m not sure how Michelle reaches her conclusion, but you’re gonna’ have a hard time convincing me, or any other Conservative/Republican, we’re taking our marching orders from Howard Dean…Or, pay any attention to what he says.

  52. #52
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:30 pm, RaisedRight said:

    An update? I’m so confused… What do I do now?!

  53. #53
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, its vintage duh said:

    I agree with Jim Geraghty’s analysis:

    Does no one else see what’s going on here?

    How many other North Carolina Republican Party ads have you heard about this year? Last year? The year before that?

    By criticizing the ad, McCain turned it into a national story, which means the ad is likely to be replayed on the cable networks and linked on YouTube and discussed on the talk shows and talk radio and written about in newspapers and magazines. This ad has 76,000 views on YouTube already, and it was posted online Tuesday.

    It’s amazing the amazing how one can think clearly and critically when not filled with knee-jerk hatred of Sen. John McCain.

  54. #54
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, franksalterego said:

    It’s amazing the amazing how one can think clearly and critically when not filled with knee-jerk hatred of Sen. John McCain.

    Ain’t THAT the truth.

    heh,heh,heh

  55. #55
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, its vintage duh said:

    Lol. Whoops.

    Note to self: preview button.

    That’s what I get for trying to get ready for work and comment at the same time.

  56. #56
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, sambo said:

    Mohawk said:
    You know I want to comment on this but I fear that I will be labeled a racist. You know the PC movement that does not allow anyone of the white race to comment on the racist tendencies of other races.

    No worries. Obama can speak for everyone. ‘I can say things to african americans that other people can’t say’. And my favorite one…’I have lived in a primarily muslum country and can say things to them that others can’t’.
    (paraphrased)

  57. #57
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “claiming that if McCain doesn’t succeed in forcing the state party to withdraw its ad, it’s a failure of his “leadership” (read: bullying) skills”

    and are you, michelle, actually wiling to carry water for howie dean by legitimzing that claim?!

    let’s review — we have the “king” of the party of collectivism [who has managed NOT to choose a nominee yet] badgering the chosen nominee of the party that is supposed to be about individualism for choosing not to explcitly micromanage one particular action of one particular state party.

    /as posted above, we’re supposed to care what howie dean says why? and that presupposes we are to give creditability to anything he does say in the first place?

  58. #58
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:45 pm, cf said:

    McCain is obviously telling us that he does not need conservatives (our definition, not his) to win in November. He can sway enough Democrats to come over to his position. I don’t know whether he is correct or not, but I was wavering between holding my nose & voting for him & sitting the election out. This is one more step in the direction of sitting the presidential election out.

  59. #59
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, nyk said:

    #56 sambo wrote:

    Obama can speak for everyone. ‘I can say things to african americans that other people can’t say’. And my favorite one…’I have lived in a primarily muslum country and can say things to them that others can’t’.

    I’m just curious — can you cite the original quotes you’re paraphrasing here? I haven’t heard anything from him that could be boiled down to this and I’m genuinely curious to see the quotations in the raw.

  60. #60
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, Wade said:

    McCain is a weenie. Never give in to the Dems, didn’t the weenie republicans learn anything the past 8 years? Tell Dean to run his own party.

  61. #61
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, Boomer said:

    The grumpy old man is just hell bent on committing political suicide when it comes to conservatives and all they value. I am just dumfounded in the opening he gave Howard Dean on this issue. None of the above looks beter and better every day as my write-in vote for POTUS come November.

  62. #62
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Nichevo said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, its vintage duh said:
    It’s amazing the amazing how one can think clearly and critically when not filled with knee-jerk hatred of Sen. John McCain.

    Geraghty? The guy who predicted, on the basis of exit polls, that Obama would win in PA? Is this a replay of the vaunted “strategery” that Bush was supposedly stumbling his way through everytime he disappointed the right? Like vetoing McCain-Feingold, and then signing onto it and saying that the SC would shoot it down. That worked out great.

    No matter, I’m donating to the NC GOP, and I might even considering donating to Hillary after this:

    McCain slams Bush’s Katrina relief

    It’s not about Bush; it’s about pandering to Democrats and minorities. McCain obviously doesn’t need our votes. Good luck with that.

  63. #63
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Wade said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, mymanpotsandpans said:
    I think that John McCain has the right to set the tone for his party, and it is a right he has earned through the primary votes.

    You mean like lock step behind McCain?

  64. #64
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, sambo said:

    nyk said:
    #56 sambo wrote:
    I’m just curious — can you cite the original quotes you’re paraphrasing here? I haven’t heard anything from him that could be boiled down to this and I’m genuinely curious to see the quotations in the raw.

    I’ll look around. I thought I saved the muslum one.

  65. #65
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, live to tell said:
  66. #66
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “and I might even considering donating to Hillary after this:”

    yeah, whatevs, show us the receipt …

    /along the lines of suck.it.up. —

    GET.A.GRIP.

  67. #67
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, buckw said:

    I just heard on the Michael Medved show that the ad has been pulled.

  68. #68
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, luckybrand said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Nichevo said:

    McCain slams Bush’s Katrina relief

    It’s not about Bush; it’s about pandering to Democrats and minorities. McCain obviously doesn’t need our votes. Good luck with that.

    I lived in New Orleans for 5 years, and evacuated due to Katrina. I’m sick of politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, parading around the Ninth Ward in an attempt to score political points.

  69. #69
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, franksalterego said:

    Boomer, April 24th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    You’re not gettin’ this at all, are ya’.

    We LUV havin’ Howard Dean run his mouth…’Cause, every time he does, he ends up, stickin’ his foot in it.

    heh,heh,heh

  70. #70
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, nhpatriot said:

    This is why McCain should have kept his big mouth shut about this ad in the first place. If someone later complained he could have just said, it’s not my place to tell them what to do with the ad. But he put himself out there like he has the respect of the party faithful (and I mean the real Republicans in the party, not the fake ones like himself). Not! I still can’t believe this man is our party’s choice! What a nightmare.

  71. #71
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, Buckaroo said:

    hm, so the ad has been pulled .. .

    /after getting ~10x the exposure it ever would have gotten if the attention hadn’t been paid to it.

    /HEH

  72. #72
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    “I felt it was unfair,”

    Mr. Wright said, according to excerpts of the interview released Thursday.

    “I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt for those who were doing that, were doing it for some very devious reasons.”

    Narcissistic projection alert. WRIGHT is the one who says things that are unjust, untrue, and he does it for some very devious reasons. Wright peddles REVOLTING HATE SPEECH as homily, which very sadly his congregation gleefully absorbs, it even seems to energize them. He’s wreaking the same kind of damage to young black minds that the madrassas in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan do to young Arab minds, damage which will take generations to undo. And it’s a damn shame.

  73. #73
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, luckybrand said:

    Rev. Wright is obviously not very smart, because if I were him, I would keep my mouth shut and lay low until after the election.

  74. #74
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, sambo said:

    Here is one NYK but don’t think it’s the same one I read

    P.S. According to the ABC News blog Political Radar, Senator Obama’s efforts to boost his foreign policy credentials include the following remarks in March of this year,
    “If I go to Jakarta and address the largest Muslim country on earth, I can say, ‘Apa kabar,’ — you know, ‘How are you doing?’ — and they can recognize that I understand their common humanity. That is a strength and it allows me to say things to them that other presidents might not be able to say. And that’s part of what’s promising, I think, about this presidency.”

  75. #75
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, chief said:

    GOP denies report that it will pull ad. When I heard they had decided to pull the ad I was crushed. This is an issue for our State. We have lived under corrupt politicians for to long. The fight that the NC GOP is showing is refreshing, and long overdue. I donated what I could, and hope others will also. Hey, Obama is who he is, and must be exposed. If the GOP is afraid of the fight, they deserve to be the minority party in our new Socialist utopia.

  76. #76
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Nichevo said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, luckybrand said:
    I lived in New Orleans for 5 years, and evacuated due to Katrina. I’m sick of politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, parading around the Ninth Ward in an attempt to score political points.

    I’m in Florida — you know, the place where hurricanes not-named-Katrina hit us in the same year, and the year before, and where we soldiered through without massive Federal government assistance — the place where skyrocking home insurance rates have contributed to the highest rate of foreclosures in the country?

    McCain could care less about working Americans who shoulder their own responsibilities. Let’s talk about Katrina!

  77. #77
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, nyk said:

    #74 sambo:

    Okay. I completely disagree on the essence of this quote, but genuinely wanted to see what you were referencing.

    Thanks, sambo.

  78. #78
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, emjem24 said:

    Howard Dean can kiss my Conservative a**. This guy has a screw loose himself after his 2004 debacle. He’s one to talk with his demand that McCain get the ad pulled.

    Hey, Howard, why don’t you worry about your own problems before you start meddling into somebody else’s business? You’ve already failed your leadership test because you can’t even friggin’ get a nominee for pete’s sake. Furthermore, you will disenfranchize Michigan and Florida just so Obummer can sit on his high horse of hypocrisy.

    Here’s a hint, Howard: you keep your Wicked Witch of the East Shrillary and Winged Monkey #1 Obummer and the Republicans will deal with Winged Monkey #2 John McCain on their own.

  79. #79
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    We’re being “not appropriate and helpful,” you know.

    Boo-freakin-hoo!

  80. #80
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, franksalterego said:

    So, lemme’ see if I got the picture…

    Wright on Video: “G’Damn America”

    RNC in NC plays the Video, and McCain says: “Don’t play the Video”

    Howard Dean says, “Yes…Listen to McCain.”

    But, at the end of the day…

    Wright is still on Video, sayin’: “G’Damn America”

    over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, again…All the way through November.

    go get ‘em Howard…heh,heh,heh

  81. #81
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, luckybrand said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Nichevo said:
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, luckybrand said:
    I lived in New Orleans for 5 years, and evacuated due to Katrina. I’m sick of politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, parading around the Ninth Ward in an attempt to score political points.
    I’m in Florida — you know, the place where hurricanes not-named-Katrina hit us in the same year, and the year before, and where we soldiered through without massive Federal government assistance — the place where skyrocking home insurance rates have contributed to the highest rate of foreclosures in the country?

    McCain could care less about working Americans who shoulder their own responsibilities. Let’s talk about Katrina!

    I’ve never liked how the government, and I’m including local and state, handled Katrina, especially when Florida had its rear handed to it the year before. The lack of preparedness still floors me, three years later, but what really offends me is the chest beating going on now that this is an election year. I’m no fan of Bush, but what does all the blaming do now? How do you move forward? What is McCain, or Clinton or Obama for that matter, going to do about the fact that insurance rates are making it extremely difficult for all Gulf Coast residents?

  82. #82
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Trollman said:

    He [Jeremiah Wright] did not apologize or back away from his remarks in the interview, instead saying that people wanted to paint him as “some sort of fanatic.”

    Not a fanatic, a fraud.

  83. #83
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, Nichevo said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, luckybrand said:
    What is McCain, or Clinton or Obama for that matter, going to do about the fact that insurance rates are making it extremely difficult for all Gulf Coast residents?

    Uh, nothing. We have a Republican Governor, Charlie Crist, who ran on rolling back insurance rates and property taxes. He got elected, immediately signed on to global warming, complete with photo ops with Schwartzeneger in California.

    He’s done nothing about property taxes, but he did, at the last moment, endorse McCain before the FL primary, which McCain won.

    Thanks, Charlie. All hail the new GOP!

  84. #84
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, KCK said:

    Out here in meat&potato-land, we want McCain to tear into the idjit democraps for being wussies on the war, and all the while trying to pick our pockets.

    Not going to happen, I guess.

    Is this the moment when the cowboy protagonist is pushed to the edge, like in the movies? I hope McCain calls Dean’s bluff and lays Obama’s guts out in the street for the crows to peck.

    I mean, Obama is the off the left hand side of the scale, holed up in the gutter with the Weathermen and the Wrights, for crying out loud. Smack him down!

  85. #85
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, franksalterego said:

    What is McCain, or Clinton or Obama for that matter, going to do about the fact that insurance rates are making it extremely difficult for all Gulf Coast residents?
    luckybrand, April 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    How’s this for a plan…

    We’ll have the gov’t subsidize your insurance out of the taxpayer’s pocket.

    Which will mean I, as a resident of Spokane, an area with little risk of hurricanes, will be paying for your insurance.

    YAAAY !!!

  86. #86
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Valiant said:

    ACTION ALERT FOR FELLOW NC VOTERS:

    Send a message to McCain and the RINOs. Do not vote for him in the GOP primary. If we could keep him under 70%, he might realize he had better stop screwing conservatives.

  87. #87
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, Rogue said:
  88. #88
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, luckybrand said:

    #85 franks

    Actually, I had renter’s insurance to cover my losses, was able to clean out my apartment, and moved to DC, where I pay more than my share of taxes, thank you very much. I guess my taxes are helping you clean up after that random April snowstorm your area just had.

  89. #89
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, graysonret said:

    Vermont used to be a conservative state, once. Then they got Howard Dean and Jerry Rubin. It’s been downhill since then. And, that was when he was somewhat rational. The man has, for the past few years, been completely overboard in his antics. I suspect one day, some men in white coats will come and take him away, “scream” and all.

  90. #90
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, Rogue said:

    Opps…maybe not:

    NC-Reps:

    Ad will run..

    http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_news/story/594910.html

  91. #91
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, sbw999 said:

    The Republican party never learns; they will never score brownie points with any dem or the lefties in the MSM by playing nice with democrats. Since when does anybody have to apologize for telling thre truth about Wright, and BS artist Obama????? McCain and the RNC are full of sh*****t; and if they keep this up, Im one conservative who is about to change to independent, in search of a party that represents what I believe in; and what the current Republican party used to believe in. Color me….sick to death of faux Republicans in the WH and running for election for the WH.

  92. #92
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:25 pm, txvet2 said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, Rogue said:

    Bad news:

    Al-Reuters reporting NC-Reps are pulling ad!

    Gee, the only interesting thing I found on al_Reuters was this:

    Florida moves to ban fake testicles on vehicles

  93. #93
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, franksalterego said:

    From “Rogue’s” link:

    “I think it is inflammatory,” said Jim Hefner, vice president and general manager at WRAL. “If that spot was about Senator Obama, that would be one thing. What do Perdue and Moore have to do with Barack Obama’s minister?”

    So, the question is…

    If it doesn’t have anything to do with Perdue and Moore, why do you have an objection to running it?…”Inflammatory”? to “who”?

    Circle THAT square

  94. #94
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, rooster said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, nyk said:
    #56 sambo wrote:

    Obama can speak for everyone. ‘I can say things to african americans that other people can’t say’. And my favorite one…’I have lived in a primarily muslum country and can say things to them that others can’t’.
    I’m just curious — can you cite the original quotes you’re paraphrasing here? I haven’t heard anything from him that could be boiled down to this and I’m genuinely curious to see the quotations in the raw.

    Something tells me many sycophants such as yourself, wouldn’t believe anything negative about Mr. Hussein Obama if it hit you on the schnauze. (Obama, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, favorable treatment for gangbangers, voting present as a legislature, Michelle Obummer, etc…)

    Recap of not too distant past…Hmmmm…OJ has victims blood on his socks….hmmmmmmm…..jury finds him innocent? I hope and pray this false guilt for a poor oppressed minority/white guy(BHO) doesn’t blind like it did with OJ. Americans must hold this long legged freak accountable for his “just words”.

    The problem with most typical libs like yourself, seems to be that you feel a need to interpret for us unenlightened folks, what your fellow libtards really meant to say when they say something stupid!

  95. #95
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, Conlaw said:

    What is the deal with McCain and his contempt for free speach? First, he stifles speech by pushing a ridiculous “campaign finance” law. Now, he is demanding that groups pull their television ads. What’s next? calling people who vocally oppose open boarders racists…oh wait…never mind.

    How very frightening

  96. #96
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, franksalterego said:

    Addendum to #93

    The fact of the matter is, that Jeremiah Wright, has cast his net even farther, than just Obama.

    It’s a reflection of the whole Party…The Party of Big Mouths & Small Ideas.

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch

  97. #97
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:43 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “Florida moves to ban fake testicles on vehicles”

    “first they came for the trailer-hitch balls, and I said nothing”
    :-) :-)

  98. #98
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pm, luckybrand said:

    rooster,

    Please enlighten me as to what OJ remotely has to do with Obama?

  99. #99
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, gayle said:

    I cannot stand WRAL!
    I have sent several links to Michelle regarding issues in this state.

    If you post online at WRAL, they edit before it’s allowed.

    If you use illegals or bash them, you are censored MOST of the time.

    If you speak ill of the liberals, you’re in deep doodoo.

    Everyone here should go visit and try to post! HAHA! A real eye-opener!

  100. #100
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, rooster said:

    luckybrand if you can’t see the pc’ification, and everything is the race card, then I can’t help you. Nothing has changed and it seems to only get worse.

  101. #101
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, luckybrand said:

    rooster, you’re the one that linked OJ and Obama as oppressed minorities benefiting from false guilt. I just asked why you think that OJ’s acquittal is related in any way to Obama’s candidacy.

  102. #102
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, BrianNY said:

    Mr. Wright said, “I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ. And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate.”

    Didn’t Wright do a pretty good job of communicating this himself through his own DVDs?

    I think Wright’s gripe is that, once his DVDs were circulated by the MSM, he could no longer control the audience.

  103. #103
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, rooster said:

    luckybrand,
    The OJ verdict was wholly supported within the black communities. Obama is the messiah of the black communities today and can do or say no wrong.
    I’m not trying to say the “long legged freak” is evil like OJ, just that his shortcomings are overlooked sort of like OJ’s double murder.

  104. #104
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Informed that NC has pulled the “offending” ad. as of Thurs.

    Is this verified?

  105. #105
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, rooster said:

    Sorry luckybrand, the oppressed minorities are the templates used by the msm for anyone who is black. The mere fact that B Hussein is half white is easily overlooked to play on the poor minority making it big story.

  106. #106
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pm, Mookie said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, gayle said:

    I cannot stand WRAL!
    I have sent several links to Michelle regarding issues in this state.

    If you post online at WRAL, they edit before it’s allowed.

    If you use illegals or bash them, you are censored MOST of the time.

    If you speak ill of the liberals, you’re in deep doodoo.

    Everyone here should go visit and try to post! HAHA! A real eye-opener!

    In other words, they have standards?

  107. #107
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:21 pm, luckybrand said:

    I got you rooster — my hesitation came from the comparison between a senator and a double murderer/famewhore/batterer/burglar.

    Believe me, I’m not blind to Obama’s shortcomings, nor are some of the black people that know and consult with. I have my doubts that he can handle some of the current problems that the country is facing, and remember, back in January, he did not have the majority of the black vote. However, any misgivings about him pale to the disgust that Billary has engendered other these last few months, and that feeling is shared by a lot of black people. Just as some conservatives feel that McCain acts like he doesn’t need your support, some black people feel that Hillary and Bill treat us the same way. It’s not that he can do no wrong, but we also prefer a candidate that does not take our vote for granted, especially since Hillary cannot win without the black vote.

  108. #108
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, nbarry said:

    After the famous Scream, Jay Leno said, “Cows in Iowa are nervous about coming down with Mad Dean Disease.”

  109. #109
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, nyc123me said:

    “Mr. Wright said, “I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ.”"

    yes, you are.
    and your point is…?

  110. #110
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, Nichevo said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, franksalterego said:
    How’s this for a plan…

    We’ll have the gov’t subsidize your insurance out of the taxpayer’s pocket.

    Which will mean I, as a resident of Spokane, an area with little risk of hurricanes, will be paying for your insurance.

    YAAAY !!!

    That’s not the plan, Stan, er, Frank. Floridians, in addition to their own home insurance, are also paying a surcharge for state-funded insurance on those in “high risk” areas who insurance companies refuse to cover. (Ain’t collectivism great?)

    I’ve lived here 36 years. After Hurricane Andrew — 35 miles away and no damage here — we got cancelled by a major insurance company, transferred to another “shadow” company owned by the same “major insurance company,” only with a 150% rise in premium. (The alternative was the “risk pool” where we’d be paying 200% more, so we stuck with them, with still no claim, evah.) The insurance company then decided to pull out (shadow company and all) from the state, a few years later, leaving us scrambling for insurance, which we got, and which, when, after 34 years, we suffered a major loss, paid us next to nothing on the claim.

    Do we want you to pay? No, not at all. We know what it’s like to pay for others, dude, same as we know that the incessant whining from people who don’t even own the property they had to be rescued from in NO — in spite of all warnings to evacuate, and the city government’s total cluelessness, is BS.

    But, hey, we’re the bitter working middle class — not the sanctified, carefully cultivated minority poor in NO — and we can go scratch, right?

  111. #111
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, dejack said:

    How dare you show clips of speeches I made, reduced to dvd and sold on my website as the Best of Rev. Wright! How dare you!

  112. #112
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Brian Paasch said:

    Well, if NCGOP pulled the ad, they haven’t said so on their website. At least not as of 6:35PM eastern. I cleared my cache and reloaded a couple of times. Still there.

  113. #113
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:43 pm, rooster said:

    luckybrand

    What you wrote is true and very sad. Sad, because the dems really don’t have the best interest of the black communities at heart. They want them to be dependent on their benevolance to give them all kinds of goverment programs to make their life a utopia.

    Considering the dems are the creators of the KKK, I really don’t understand the allegiance, except for the social engineering with goverment programs.

    some black people feel that Hillary and Bill treat us the same way. It’s not that he can do no wrong, but we also prefer a candidate that does not take our vote for granted, especially since Hillary cannot win without the black vote.

    senor McCain has taken his whole party for granted.

  114. #114
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:57 pm, gayle said:

    Mookie, you must love me.

    You always comment to my posts.

    What say you?

  115. #115
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, luckybrand said:

    rooster

    Maybe that’s why I liked McCain back in 2000, when he was more centrist. Now that he is the presumptive nominee, his pandering bothers me, a liberal, just as much as it bothers conservatives!

    As for the Dems, I almost hope that they cave into Hillary and make her the nominee, knowing full well that the math does not support her. Their unwilliness to step in and end this stupidity shows that the party is earning its reputation of being weak. She has made it clear that my vote doesn’t count (black, 31, graduate degree, make over 50K, drink lattes, voted in CT, where she lost, will vote in DC, where she won’t win), so she won’t get it in November. Maybe the Dem Party will grow a spine in time for 2012.

  116. #116
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Considering the dems are the creators of the KKK

    Are you serious? Neither political party “created” the first iteration nor the second iteration of the KKK. Further, the KKK’s views seem to lean a bit closer to modern day Republicans than Democrats. Next your going to tell me that the CofCC was created by the dems too?

  117. #117
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “the KKK’s views seem to lean a bit closer to modern day Republicans than Democrats”

    hm, lessee, identity politics above all; collectivist, centralized leadership …

    nope, looks pretty donkish to me!

  118. #118
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm, rooster said:

    Had me worried for a second there Buck!

  119. #119
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, Buckaroo said:

    worried how? u thought i wuz gonna agree?
    :-)

  120. #120
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:34 pm, docflash said:

    Howard Dean said,,” how can he lead our country through an economic crisis or the war in Iraq”?
    I thought both Dem candidates promised to pull out of Iraq.Am I wrong?

  121. #121
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm, bear1909 said:

    Who are all of these idiots trying to convince?

    They inspire me to go open the gas line in the kitchen. :D

  122. #122
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, rooster said:

    luckybrand
    If you can get excited about any of these 3, you’re better than me.

    Both parties are turning into complete failures for those of us they are supposed to represent.

    B. Hussein Obama-Black liberation beliefs and fellowship

    Hildabeast Clinton-Congenital liar (w/hairy back)

    senor Juan McCain-Thinks he’s a democrat courting the illegal vote

    TOS,

    Don’t know, or care how old you are, but I believe Martin Luther King Jr., was a registered republican. Now why do you suppose he would have been a member of the GOP?

  123. #123
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:42 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:24 pm, Buckaroo said:
    nope, looks pretty donkish to me

    From the KKK platform:

    “The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.”

    “Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens”

    “Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon”

    “Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs”

    “Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother’s life or in case of rape or incest.”

    “We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality”

    “We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children”

    Still sound donkish? No wonder they all voted for Ron Paul (R)

  124. #124
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:44 pm, rooster said:

    TOS-Poster child of our failed school system

  125. #125
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, bit_boy said:
  126. #126
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:55 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Now why do you suppose he would have been a member of the GOP?

    Most African-Americans were Republicans 40 years ago. The southern Dixiecrats back in the day were segregationists, against Civil Rights and - kind of like today’s Republican - socially conservative. Any other questions?

  127. #127
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm, rooster said:

    Any other questions?

    POS TOS, yes, see #124

  128. #128
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Wow, what a great retort rooster.

    Question for you:
    In 2008, who do you think the KKK, CofCC, and other various neo-Nazi/ White-Supremacist groups will be supporting for POTUS?

  129. #129
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, rooster said:

    None of the candidates that have any chance of being elected TOS.

  130. #130
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, rooster said:

    Who is the CofCC?

  131. #131
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, dejack said:

    Sen. Robert Byrd: Clan member who, as a lwyer, defended a man who murdered a catholic priest for the crime of marrying a black man to a white woman. Democrat.

  132. #132
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, e.koenig said:

    the greatest country the world has ever known and we are stuck with this bunch of morons. i can’t do anything but bang my head on my desk…

    from the TOS platform:
    atheism
    open borders
    police state
    discrimination
    infanticide
    total government control.

    hey TOS maybe you should run for president

  133. #133
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Anybody catch that lame straddler Bill O’Reilly tonight making excuses for the Ayers/Obama connection? Completely disgusting.

    Fortunately, he had a strong guest who was making the case about what a violent, America-hating scumbag Ayer is. His wife, too. They may have abandoned their violent acts, but they have not abandoned their vile rhetoric against the USA.

    O’Reilly says he wants to let this go because Obama just got caught up in the radical chic atomosphere of Chicago. Absurd. And he was a young guy on the make.

    Here is the reality: O’Reilly is mostly just an act. He made his bones with issues that conservatives like. But he has wanted for some time to expand his franchise. So you see him — from time to time — tack left in a way that seems inexplicable on the basis of the issues.

    But BO is not thinking about the issues. He is thinking about his ratings. And when he feels he had edged too far right, he will lurch left. It is all about positioning the product. He truly sucks.

  134. #134
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, rooster said:

    O’Reilly says he wants to let this go because Obama just got caught up in the radical chic atomosphere of Chicago

    For 20 frickin’ years chic!

    I quit Oreilly about 8 months ago and love it. Lou Dobbs is the one and only one standing up for all Americans.

    Fox ain’t what the dems accuse it of being.

  135. #135
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, Surveyor said:

    Lou Dobbs is the one and only one standing up for all Americans.

    Ain’t that the truth! Lou is the man!

  136. #136
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, dejack said:

    A green hunting cap squeezed the topof the fleshy balloon of a head

    IR you are right. O’Reilly is about pontificating, shouting down, and bullying and not about advancing conservative principals. Ayers and his wife, who incidentially praised the Manson murders when they were discovered, are dispicable people. And I use “people” in the most genrous terms.

  137. #137
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm, rooster said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, e.koenig said:
    the greatest country the world has ever known and we are stuck with this bunch of morons. i can’t do anything but bang my head on my desk…

    from the TOS platform:
    atheism
    open borders
    police state
    discrimination
    infanticide
    total government control.

    hey TOS maybe you should run for president

    Danke Herr Koenig
    You pretty much nailed the TOSdem platform

  138. #138
    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, dejack said: A green hunting cap squeezed the topof the fleshy balloon of a head…

    Big mistake, dejack!

    Hell will freeze over before you get one of those delicious little weenies that I reserve for customers who meet my standards. {grin}

    (My advise is that you stop paying attention to that ignorant tool who ripped off my life story!)

  139. #139
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:10 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 123

    i suppose you could paint them as ronulans with even less tact — ‘course, those folk are about as rational as koslambs, so, not sure how that bolsters yer case …

  140. #140
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:11 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 125

    whatever your current dosage is …

    it needs to be increased …

  141. #141
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:12 pm, Buckaroo said:

    BOR is for BOR 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. how he treated MM during the geraldo debacle told us pretty much all we needed to know …

  142. #142
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm,