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Jeremiah Wright: The gift that keeps on giving, but…

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 24, 2008 11:22 AM

I noted earlier this week that Bill Moyers announced he would be interviewing Jeremiah Wright for a Blame America echo chamber session set to air tomorrow. Now comes words, via the Chicago Sun Times, that Wright will be speaking at the National Press Club on Monday.

The controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright — Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor — is speaking Monday at the National Press Club as part of a divinity conference of black church leaders. Wright’s decision to headline an event at the Press Club — open to all media — risks giving Obama’s critics more fodder, as if they don’t have enough already.

…The backfire potential of Wright having any sort of a public profile at this point seems obvious.

I asked the church about the prospects of Wright further wounding Obama’s candidacy, and I was e-mailed material about the divinity conference.

When the uproar over Wright started, Obama chief strategist David Axelrod asked his friends at Jasculca Terman — a public affairs firm — to advise Trinity on how to handle the crush of media coverage, and they did, pro bono. Jim Terman, the president of the firm, said, “We were not asked to provide our advice about the reported speech of Rev. Wright in Washington” and did not know about it until it was scheduled.

Based on his last, self-aggrandizing diatribe-tastic performance at a funeral a few weeks ago, Wright is sure to give the Obama camp more indigestion.

Problem is, the official Republican elite position is that it is “not appropriate and unhelpful” to point out exactly how much of a radical, hate-filled loon Obama’s longtime spiritual mentor is.

Wright is the gift that keeps on giving, but the McCain camp high and mightily doesn’t want to receive.

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  1. #1
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:23 am, PBoilermaker said:

    That’s because McCain is also a liberal.

  2. #2
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am, mike volpe said:

    Michelle, your Fox New colleague, Bill O’Reilly, proclaims that Obama loses five points everytime Wright opens his mouth. Obviously, that is overstated however it is correct to state that Obama loses everytime Wright speaks.

    As Bill says often, someone in the Obama campaign needs to tell Wright to take an eight month vacation.

  3. #3
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I just don’t have a problem getting into the mud to beat the crap out of my opponent. What the heck is this “higher road” Republicans always talk about? The Democrats depend on such a philosophy.

  4. #4
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:29 am, Christian Soldier said:

    ditto…PBoilermaker #1

    Let’s not forget: McCain is….

    The LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!!!

    He’s a GIFT from the R. Party elite.

  5. #5
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Problem is, the official Republican elite position is that it is “not appropriate and unhelpful” to point out exactly how much of a radical, hate-filled loon Obama’s longtime spiritual mentor is.

    …becaue Wright is black.

    Oh, and McCain is a liberal.

  6. #6
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:31 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    #3, Spot-on

  7. #7
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:34 am, mike volpe said:

    Ironically, enough Michelle titled her piece the echo chamber. We have another one here that attacks McCain because he wants as much distance from Wright attacks and himself.

    The reason that McCain put distance between himself and that Wright attack ad is twofold: 1) he has class. It was a cheap add that made an excuse to attack Obama. 2) he needs to stay as far away from Wright attacks as possible. There is an old saying in politics. Don’t kill your opponent while they commit suicide. Wright is doing plenty of damage to Obama without McCain, or any Republican, using the issue. When we use the issue we get into the mud. We don’t need to get into the mud because the issue has plenty of legs without us.

    Let Wright talk to Moyers, the National press club, and everyone else he can, and let the media cover it and that is plenty of damage. When McCain gets involved in the damage himself there becomes a boomerang effect. He stays above the fray and let’s Obama kill himself, that is the best way.

    Too bad the echo chamber here doesn’t understand simply political principles like that.

  8. #8
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:34 am, orlandocajun said:

    Not that I’m a big McCain fan, but plenty of people are already doing his bidding on the Wright issue. He’s better off staying on the high ground. If he attacks Wright and Obama, he’ll lose ground. Forget what the Democrats do…the high ground historically works better with voters.

  9. #9
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:37 am, dejack said:

    Is this guy actually Obama’s friend? An enemy couldn’t do more damage to him. Speak on Reverend, speak on.

  10. #10
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Mohawk said:

    No matter whom we get or decide to vote for open borders and liberal thought will rule the day.

  11. #11
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:39 am, dakine said:

    volpe gets it. That post, 30 pieces, was “spot on”.

  12. #12
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:40 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    I hate throwing the “black” thing out there but you can bet your last dime if Pat Robertson was doing the “Wright” thingy, McCain would be blasting him. After all, Robertson threw his support behind someone even more liberal so what would he have to lose? Robertson is going to throw his support behind Clinton me thinks.

  13. #13
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:40 am, Larraby said:

    Let’s recall that George W. Bush never mentioned the swift boat issue. Neither did VP Cheney. Better to let others do it. The best thing for McCain to do is let the media ask him about and at least for now, stay above the fray. It is like Tom Sawyer and the fence. If you can get others to paint the fence for you, why do it yourself?

  14. #14
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:42 am, ajmontana said:

    Oblahma, his Wife and the “Rev” are triplets.

  15. #15
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am, John Ansell said:

    Where did Obama announce his run for the POTUS? Michelle, Please stop helping Hillary. There will be a time to bring this Write and Ayers stuff up. After Hillary is gone!!!

    The answer to my question is Springfield, Illinois. Home of Abe Lincoln. Now all Obamination has to do is re-deliver his race speech on Aug. 15th, 10 days prior to the Dimmy’s convention.

    I just don’t understand why so many conservatives are willing to work for Hillary. It’s sick.

  16. #16
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The reason that McCain put distance between himself and that Wright attack ad is twofold: 1) he has class. It was a cheap add that made an excuse to attack Obama. 2) he needs to stay as far away from Wright attacks as possible. There is an old saying in politics.

    The ad had absolutely nothing to do with McCain. So, your little theory about him wanting to distance himself from all things Wright, doesn’t hold any water. Had McCain not poked his nose where it didn’t belong we wouldn’t have associated him with it. Period.

    Too bad the echo chamber here doesn’t understand simply political principles like that.

    Get over yourself.

  17. #17
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:46 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    feel better dakine?

  18. #18
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:46 am, rooster said:

    I’m not too high on pc’ness, and for senor’ McCain to pander to a group that represents 13% of the legal US population is just plain stupid with his soft-a$$ headed approach to campaigning.

    Blacks are voting for the color of Barry’s skin and nothing more. Look no further than any major city like Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, etc……

    Please, keep talking you black liberation, racist, ex marine, Jerry Wright.

  19. #19
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am, PBoilermaker said:

    All we are missing now is an lgm post.

  20. #20
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am, John Ansell said:
  21. #21
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:54 am, franksalterego said:

    uh-huh

    Meanwhile, Michelle Malkin is free to sling the Jeremiah Wright story, and the William Ayers story, to her heart’s content…And, McCain, and the Republican Party, don’t get their hands dirty.

    So, at the end of the day, who is the smart one?

  22. #22
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:55 am, rooster said:

    Pretty fun John #20. You seem scared of the Hildabeast, I have to be honest and tell you that Barry scares the crap out of me more than the other 2 stooges.

  23. #23
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    John, what’s up with that?

  24. #24
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, undrseige247 said:

    The only thing this pig Wright is missing is a white, pointy hood to see the glow of Satan’s eyes. To think of the profit this guy has made spewing racial hatred—! A nice gated community with all those evil white neighbors!

    Do you think this pig keeps white sugar in the cabinet; or brown sugar?

    (M.M.- redact this comment if you must but I’m FUMING!)

  25. #25
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Boomer said:

    I hope Wright continues to keep himself out front so we can get a really good look at the type of spiritual advice we can expect to go along with the Obamination should he win this thing. The grumpy old man from my birthplace can continue to take the high road right into oblivion. In war as in politics somebody has do get down in the dirt and fight to take and hold the high ground, but most pilots don’t understand that fact. ;)

  26. #26
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, fmfnavydoc said:

    I think that the following quote from Lord Horatio Nelson is probably the gameplan that the GOP is using in regards to Barry-O:

    Gentlemen, when the enemy is committed to a mistake we must not interrupt him too soon.

  27. #27
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, ajmontana said:

    I’m liking all the comments from both sides here, aside from the echo chamber dig. but hey nobody’s perf.
    McCain really doesnt need to do squat, including telling them to pull a commercial, this ones flying right along like a finely tuned ferrari. When all these dipsticks announced 2 years early I laughed my rump off knowing they would hang themselves bigtime. Have to say I underestimated how well the Dems have done it though. How anyone can cast a vote for either of those morons is beyond me. I’m ordering a case of Orvilles gourmet popping corn and some fine wine for the rest of this show. Heck it couldnt cost me more than a couple tanks a gas.

  28. #28
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:54 am, franksalterego said:
    uh-huh

    Meanwhile, Michelle Malkin is free to sling the Jeremiah Wright story, and the William Ayers story, to her heart’s content…And, McCain, and the Republican Party, don’t get their hands dirty.

    So, at the end of the day, who is the smart one?

    If people like MM didn’t expose the hatred of people like Wright and Ayers to the masses and keep it fresh in the minds of voters, even more Americans would be fat, dumb and happy with Obama as a potential candidate.

  29. #29
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, mike volpe said:

    Re #16,

    The ad absolutely has something to do with him because it attacks his likely opponent in November. As the Presidential nominee, that makes him the de facto leader of the Party and so again it has to do with him.

    McCain is a classy individual that wants to run the campaign by highlighting the differences between the two candidates. That is the campaign he is running and yet the NC GOP runs this ridiculous ad that is nothing more than an excuse to loop more of Wright’s words.

    Again, this is not only classless, but counter productive.

    Wright is an albatross around Obama on his own. Wright won’t shut up and the story won’t go away. The Reps need to stay as far away from it as possible while it destroys Obama on its own.

    Instead the foolish head of the NC GOP uses it in a nakedly opportunistic way and thus blunting the damage it naturally causes. McCain is trying to win the presidency and he doesn’t need foolish heads of state parties to associate him with vicious and needless attacks.

    My buddy, a hard core liberal, told me last night he gained a new found respect for McCain because he came out against the ad and decided that if Hillary were the nominee he would vote McCain. That is anecdotal, however I suspect there are plenty of people out there that appreciated McCain’s actions.

  30. #30
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, ajmontana said:

    PS…Gas here in the Coachella Valley was $3.99.9 a gallon yesterday.

  31. #31
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, Surveyor said:

    Boomer:

    In war as in politics somebody has do get down in the dirt and fight to take and hold the high ground, but most pilots don’t understand that fact

    True…and funny at the same time.

    oderint dum metuant

  32. #32
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, nyk said:

    #20 John Ansell wrote:

    WTF

    It’s this site after someone used “Obama” as a search term.
    http://www.blackle.com/about/

    Functions like Google. If you search “Obama,” you’ll get a page full of Obama-related results.

  33. #33
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Truly, how much longer can you hang this dufus around BO’s head? BO has enough shortcoming without stretching to make associations with the racist preacher.

  34. #34
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, Mister P said:

    Wright can not help himself. He would rather all blacks be portrayed as victims that have Obama (who is not really black anyway) win the election. Wright will sabotage this election-guarenteed.

  35. #35
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Mister P said:

    Michelle, Please stop helping Hillary. There will be a time to bring this Write and Ayers stuff up. After Hillary is gone!!!

    That is how politicians think, not journalists.

  36. #36
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, franksalterego said:

    ajmontana, April 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    yup,

    Donks, the Party of Big Mouths & Small Ideas, have never learned to keep their Big, Gaping Pie-Holes shut.

    “I voted for it, before I voted against it”

    “G’Damn America”

    “Sniper Fire”

    They tell on themselves, every time.

    EVERY…FREAKING…TIME.

  37. #37
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Volpe,

    The ad absolutely has something to do with him because it attacks his likely opponent in November. As the Presidential nominee, that makes him the de facto leader of the Party and so again it has to do with him.

    So attack ads against your opponent reflect badly on you in an election - even when it wasn’t your ad and your campaign funds didn’t support it. The only connection is that Obama might be his opponent. Got it. *rolls eyes*

    McCain is a classy individual that wants to run the campaign by highlighting the differences between the two candidates. That is the campaign he is running and yet the NC GOP runs this ridiculous ad that is nothing more than an excuse to loop more of Wright’s words.

    It’s pretty simply really - had McCain not poked his head where it didn’t belong, we wouldn’t have associated him with it.

    Wright is an albatross around Obama on his own. Wright won’t shut up and the story won’t go away. The Reps need to stay as far away from it as possible while it destroys Obama on its own.

    I agree and somebody from the McCain camp should have told him to say nothing at all.

    Instead the foolish head of the NC GOP uses it in a nakedly opportunistic way and thus blunting the damage it naturally causes. McCain is trying to win the presidency and he doesn’t need foolish heads of state parties to associate him with vicious and needless attacks.

    I’m getting the distinct feeling that you support McCain.

    My buddy, a hard core liberal, told me last night he gained a new found respect for McCain because he came out against the ad and decided that if Hillary were the nominee he would vote McCain. That is anecdotal, however I suspect there are plenty of people out there that appreciated McCain’s actions.

    Greattttt.

  38. #38
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, chris3cube said:

    McCain, in typical McCain political fasion, is just laying the groundwork for collecting the angry@Hillary votes from Obama supporters, who could be ticked off at Hillary in the event she aquires a super-duper nomination.
    Baraks supporters are so blindly enamored with him, he could name Wright as his running mate and they would still chant and faint at rallies.
    Obama/Wright! Embrace the hate in ‘08!

  39. #39
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    I read somewhere once that the greatest thing the Democratic party ever did was getting people to believe that their ideas were “mainstream”. Obviously, they did this through infiltration of the media. If McCain opens his mouth and says anything negative, they’ll be all over him like Mookie on an AIDS joke.

    For those of you thinking about not voting or writing in a candidate, might as well write in Obama’s name, because that’s who you’ll elect.

  40. #40
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Barry F. said:

    Problem is, the official Republican elite position is that it is “not appropriate and unhelpful” to point out exactly how much of a radical, hate-filled loon Obama’s longtime spiritual mentor is.

    Wright is the gift that keeps on giving, but the McCain camp high and mightily doesn’t want to receive.

    Obama’s relationship with Wright is fair game. Wright continues his hate-filled diatribes, keeping himself in the public discourse and Obama doesn’t do anything to fully denounce Wright and his actions. So, one is left with the obvious impression that they may well be birds of a feather.

    But, he could shed a lot of the heat he is taking by fully and publicly denouncing Wright and all of his fanaticism. But, don’t hold your breath. ;-)

  41. #41
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I just don’t have a problem getting into the mud to beat the crap out of my opponent. What the heck is this “higher road” Republicans always talk about? The Democrats depend on such a philosophy.

    Very much agreed.

  42. #42
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, ajmontana said:

    #36, dont forget chelsea out jogging on 9/11 and ducking into a coffee shop, and several other craptastic spins from Oblahma. shameful and disgusting. sniper fire…rofl. geez :roll:

  43. #43
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, John Ansell said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Mister P said:
    Michelle, Please stop helping Hillary. There will be a time to bring this Write and Ayers stuff up. After Hillary is gone!!!
    That is how politicians think, not journalists.

    Got it. Good point.

    30 pcs silver, I do fear Hillary more than Obamination. I can’t stand all three but my biggest nightmare is Hillary getting back into the White House to steal more of our stuff. Think of all the lamps that we’ll save by not letting her back in there.

    So, You’re “Damn” Write I don’t want Hillary.

  44. #44
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    volpe…. 30 pcs is correct….. McCain needed to keep his mouth shut. I will not let conservatism be sacrificed at the altar of supposed doctrine that says “stand back and let them eat their own”. I’ve been involved in over 35 years of political activity and I stand by my belief you destroy your enemy. I remember the Dole, George 41, and state and local Repubs here in MN…. Oh yeah stay above the fray be nice… well, never again.

  45. #45
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, franksalterego said:

    ajmontana, April 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    And then, as if McCain and the RNC needs to point all this out.

    heh,heh,heh

  46. #46
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    Problem is, the official Republican elite position is that it is “not appropriate and unhelpful” to point out exactly how much of a radical, hate-filled loon Obama’s longtime spiritual mentor is.

    waass not somethiked this used to get rid of the KKK ? Can we not use it to get rid of them too ??

  47. #47
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, BrianNY said:

    Bill Moyers and the National Press Club are safe venues, but I would give the good Reverend mad props if he dropped a sermon or two at the Def Jam Comedy Hour on HBO.

    You know the audience would give him as much mad respect as the faithful at the Trinity United Church of Christ do; and Wright’s judicious use of “shucking and jiving” (Andrew Cuomo’s words, not mine)would definitely elicit a “that is one crazy mutha #$%*er” from the lips of host D.L. Hughley!

    Good, old fashioned, family entertainment all around!

  48. #48
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, John Ansell said:

    Concerned Citizen said:For those of you thinking about not voting or writing in a candidate, might as well write in Obama’s name, because that’s who you’ll elect.

    Better write McInsane and tell him to drop Juan Hernandez. As long as Amexico Juan is on McCinsane’s campaign, he’s not getting my vote.

  49. #49
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, walterc said:

    mike volpe said: We don’t need to get into the mud YETbecause the issue has plenty of legs without us.

    But come September/October, we are going to need to jump in the mud and drag the Reverend back into the light.

  50. #50
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    PBoilermaker said:
    All we are missing now is an lgm post.

    lgm preventative

  51. #51
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Blind_Mule,
    That’ll never get old. I laugh everytime I see it. :-)

  52. #52
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    John,

    Believe me, McCain knows my position on the illegals and Hernandez.

    The problem is that there’s the potential for the next president to appoint Supreme Court justices. I’ll take McCain’s picks over Hillary or Obama’s anyday. The SCOTUS lives on long after the president is gone, just think of Souter and Ginsburg.

    At least with McCain, I’m getting a candidate that has voted conservative in the past. Remember that McCain is the most right leaning candidate out there and even some Dems will consider voting for him. You couldn’t say that about the others, except maybe Huckabee, who had the religion thing against him. Besides, all of his “leftness” has occured in the past 2-3 years, this could all be a red herring to appeal to the centrist voter because Hill and BO are too far to the left. I hope that’s the case.

  53. #53
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Let him continue to open his pie hole and spout his hate for America. It can only help McCain. I do think that McCain surrogates can do the dirty work if he would allow them to do so, but McCain has pissed so many people off that apperantly he does’nt want to piss anyone else off because he will lose his a$$ in the general election.

  54. #54
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, mike volpe said:

    To be honest with everyone this is a really boring arguement so this is my last comment. We are all repeating our points. I said why this affects McCain and the counter was the original point.

    Here is why I think you all are wrong and that is it.

    Wright is going to go on Moyers and then he is going to speak at the National Press Club. Now, instead of the media spending maximum attention on those two events they have diverted some of that attention to this ad.

    Why in the world would the Republicans want to do anything to draw any attention away from Wright himself especially when that attention is now creating controversy against itself? This ad is a horrible idea. It will backfire like nothing else and all it will do is blunt some of the criticism we can make against Obama vis a vis Wright.

  55. #55
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, franksalterego said:

    The “Immigration” issue.

    In my opinion, building a fence isn’t the solution.

    If we really want to solve it, we have to do it by helping Mexico build their economy…The reason, Mexicans are immigrating in the first place.

    Doesn’t that sound a little more sensible?

  56. #56
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    “Rev” Wright seems to be cashing in pretty well. After all, he needs to keep up his mega-bucks mansion he recently moved into.

  57. #57
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    I agree with 30. That is still a good one. ;-)

  58. #58
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:53 pm, nbarry said:

    The best way for McCain to handle Obama and Wright is simply to say that the reverend’s words speak for themselves and that Americans are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.

  59. #59
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, whm3113 said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, meatpieandtatters said:
    Truly, how much longer can you hang this dufus around BO’s head? BO has enough shortcoming without stretching to make associations with the racist preacher.

    How is this a stretch?

    Where you worship God speaks volumes about you. If you sit in a pew for 20 years accepting the spiritual leadership of a man who clearly is unhinged, you are either unhinged yourself or “paying your dues”. I don’t know to which catagory Sen. Obama belongs, but either worries me.

    If the Senator was only attending Rev. Wright’s church to add to his “street cred” he should let us know now so that we know for whom we are voting. If he was attending Rev. Wright’s church because he believes his pastor was preaching the Word of God I am very concerned as to his perspective of the truth.

  60. #60
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, cicerokid said:

    John isn’t going to smear either one at this point. He WILL get some of that crossover dem vote once only one doomacrat’s left to fight. You’ll see him in the mud with the nominee come this summer. Can you say “Hog-waller”?! He’s been itchin’ to gouge some eyes since ‘nam…

  61. #61
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, mike volpe said:

    FRanksalterego,

    Is O’Reilly might say, “can you say hello to Dorothy and Toto because you are on the yellow brick road”.

    Sure, in a utopia the Mexican economy would be helped, however the Mexicans are corrupt. Not only is it not the U.S.’s job to help their economy, but how exactly is our government going to root out corruption in their government. That is high and lofty rhetoric too bad it is impossible.

  62. #62
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    frank,

    That should definitely be part of the equation and that’s what Nafta started to do with the maquiladoras that have since been put out of business by China. If there is a silver lining to higher fuel costs, it may be that Mexico becomes a more cost effective alternative.

    We also need a border fence and tougher penalties for employers.

    The problem with using just those solutions is that they imply that the border crosser is just some mindless drone that will aim for the nearest dollar sign. Severe punishments for identity theft and failure to pay taxes aare just the sticks required to balance the carrots above.

  63. #63
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, franksalterego said:

    The word “Impossible” isn’t a part of my vocabulary.

  64. #64
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Judges!!!! #52

    Weak R. administrations have been allowing the Dems. to stonewall the appointments of judges ever since I’ve been involved (a long time). I’ve been continually told to vote the R. no matter what because …
    IT’S THE JUDGES!!!!
    This administration has allowed the Ds. to run the show on J. appointments.

    The Rs. want to be NICE-reach across the aisle- and sit on couches w/Dems.

    Enough!

  65. #65
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, franksalterego said:

    Building a fence would do no more to solve the problem, than a fence has solved the Palestinian/Israeli problem.

    All you end up with is, a bunch of seething individuals, on the other side of the fence, blaming America for all it’s problems.

    I would rather have Mexico as a Friend and Ally.

  66. #66
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, rooster said:

    frank, I agree a fence for the most part would be useless so long as we don’t punish employers for their crimes of hiring illegals.

    All that needs to be done is enforce laws already in place.

  67. #67
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, Mister P said:

    Building a fence would do no more to solve the problem, than a fence has solved the Palestinian/Israeli problem.

    All you end up with is, a bunch of seething individuals, on the other side of the fence, blaming America for all it’s problems.

    I would rather have Mexico as a Friend and Ally.

    The fence has helped Israel, they don’t get many suicide bombers any more. Unfortunately it can’s be high enough to stop the missles.

    We do not need Mexico as a friend and Ally. They need us.

  68. #68
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, franksalterego said:

    “…the Mexicans are corrupt.”
    mike volpe,April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    That’s a blanket statement, I don’t buy into.

    Corruption is the result of poverty…Not ethnicity.

  69. #69
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, luckybrand said:

    Not all Obama supporters are fans of Rev. Wright. At least not this one.

  70. #70
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, cs89 said:

    The “Immigration” issue.

    In my opinion, building a fence isn’t the solution.

    If we really want to solve it, we have to do it by helping Mexico build their economy…The reason, Mexicans are immigrating in the first place.

    Doesn’t that sound a little more sensible?

    As a philosophical argument, sure. And, there are steps we have taken and can take to assist Mexico in improving their economy.

    But, at the end of the day, it is the Mexican government’s responsibility to deal with the Mexican economy, not ours. We have helped some other countries over the years, and we have wasted billions in ineffective assistance as well.

    Let’s be smart about what we do with our money. Even if the check has the name of the U.S. govt. on it, remember it still comes out of our pockets.

  71. #71
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, franksalterego said:

    We do not need Mexico as a friend and Ally. They need us.
    Mister P, April 24th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    So, diplomacy is a one-way street?

    heh,heh,heh

  72. #72
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, cs89 said:

    As to the argument that McCain will pick up some fence-sitting Dems: I’m sure he will. He might want to pick up some fence-sitting Republicans as well.

    I’m sure the comment with be “clarified,” but Drudge is reporting right now that even JENNA BUSH is not sure she’ll vote for McCain.

    Heh.

  73. #73
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, mike volpe said:

    wrong frank,

    poverty is a result of corruption. Look at any third world nation and would you find is obscene corruption at all levels of government. Either way, the obscene amount of corruption that persists in all levels of Mexican government is what is causing them problems. Now, if you can solve that then you can get Mexico back on its feet.

  74. #74
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, Surveyor said:

    Corruption is the result of poverty…Not ethnicity.

    I disagree. In Mexico, corruption is the result of complacency among the populace. If the mexicans would grow some cajones and revolt against their corrupted RICH government and RICH drug lords then there would be change for the better. Unfortunately all the mexicans with cajones have left and are now living in this country illegally lobbying our government for entitlements…because they know our government officials will not send out drug gangs to kill them off.

  75. #75
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, Storm Chaser said:

    We do need Mexico as an ally. They have oil. Moreover, an avowed enemy on our border would enhance our already difficult border problems.

    As for Reverend Wright and the rest, what he says is less relevant than what his words say about Obama. Obama apparently didn’t realize the reverend’s words would be so inflamitory until late in the game. What Rev Wright said is less relevant than what it says about Obama’s judgment. What other lapses has Obama suffered?

  76. #76
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    franksalterego said:

    Corruption is the result of poverty…Not ethnicity.

    Bill Clinton: Impoverished

    Sandy Burgalar: Impoverished

    William Jefferson: Impoverished

    Felepe Calderone: Impoverished

    and you were saying?

  77. #77
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, franksalterego said:

    [we] wasted billions in ineffective assistance as well.

    Let’s be smart about what we do with our money.
    cs89,April 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    So, lemme’ see if I got this straight…

    Billions to build a fence isn’t a waste of money?

    hmmmm

    Seems to me, we could use the money to bribe ‘em to stay home…THAT’D be smarter than a fence.

    heh,heh,heh

  78. #78
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, franksalterego said:

    Blind_Mule?

    Riddle me this…

    Who is more likely to take a bribe?

    A rich man, comfortable with his life?…Or, a poor man, unable to feed his family?

  79. #79
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Simple, Both, the difference is one is greedy and the other is starving and trying to survive.

  80. #80
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, franksalterego said:

    Blind_Mule,

    You just told on yourself.

  81. #81
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, secondsight said:
  82. #82
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    franksalterego said:
    Blind_Mule,

    You just told on yourself.

    :lol: LOL

  83. #83
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, mike volpe said:

    Except in Mexico and in most third world nations, it isn’t the poor people in on the corruption but the rich ones.

  84. #84
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, franksalterego said:

    Mike,

    You just told on yourself

  85. #85
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, franksalterego said:

    The difference between me, and you two guys is, I’m as happy as a hog in slop with what I have…You couldn’t give me one more dollar to make me any happier, than I already am.

    And, I didn’t get to where I am, by screwing anyone else.

    By my standard, I AM “rich”…But, it doesn’t make me “greedy”

  86. #86
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, John Ansell said:

    Frank, I note your points but I have to side with Volpe. I’m in Torrance, Ca. and I see first hand what is happening because, yes because of the sancuary policy here. Coming to a Town Near You. Got Amnesty? That link is what you’ll get.

  87. #87
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, John Ansell said:

    Concerned Citizen, The judges are the only reason McInsane has for earning my vote. If he drops Juan Amexico Hernandez, I might look the other way on all his other liberal stances. If Juan is still in bed with McInsane, no chance.

  88. #88
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    franksalterego said:
    The difference between me, and you two guys is, I’m as happy as a hog in slop with what I have…You couldn’t give me one more dollar to make me any happier, than I already am.

    And, I didn’t get to where I am, by screwing anyone else.

    By my standard, I AM “rich”…But, it doesn’t make me “greedy”

    Well frank I’m so glad that your alter ego is so full of itself. Who are you to judge my moral stance, I simply answered your question truthfully, that does not mean that I myself can be corrupted by money that is the least of my worries If I could eat and have shelter without it I would certainly do so, I am happy and thankful for what I have also and I have never stepped on or screwed anyone to get what I have which is’nt alot. Question frank do you have credit cards, cell phone, a nice pretty new car? how big is your television frank? How often do you eat out, go to the movies? what stores do you shop at frank? answer my questions and then we will see the real difference between you and I.

  89. #89
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, franksalterego said:

    Don’t get me wrong…I’m not for amnesty either.

    Me n’ McCain/Bush are diametrically opposed on that issue.

    But, it’s not the overriding issue of the day.

    Fact of the matter is, I’d vote for Bush for another term, before I’d vote for either Obama or Clinton.

  90. #90
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, franksalterego said:

    Blind_Mule, April 24th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    You told on yourself, when you equated “rich” with “evil” or “corrupt” or “greedy”

    That, being “rich” is, in and of itself, inherently wrong.

    Here’s my advice: Quit worring about what someone else has…It’s not even any of your business.

  91. #91
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, franksalterego said:
  92. #92
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, Surveyor said:

    “Aren’t you gonna ask me what kind of car it is?” “oooohhhh ok….what kinda car is it?”

    It’s a “bitchin’ Camaro!”

    lyrics courtesy of the “Dead Milkmen”

    sorry frank…I just had to throw that in there! :) It’s my day off.

  93. #93
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Nice car frank, kicks the crap out of my 87 reliant. Frank I really don’t care what you have and your right it is’nt any of my business, I reread what I wrote and yes from my statement I can see what your talking about, I don’t think being monetarialy rich is evil if you earned it honestly, my point is that being rich as you pretty much stated above is relative to your state of mind but corruption is evil and getting rich from it is also evil.

  94. #94
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    By the way I let my kids read your post and they LOL. Both of them said your the one that teaches us that it is nice to have money but it will not necesarily make you happy but that does not mean that you should not make the effort to achieve your goals in life and if you end up being rich because of it that’s just a bonus.

  95. #95
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, franksalterego said:

    Greed isn’t a product of being rich or poor…It’s a character flaw found all up and down the economic spectrum.

    Being rich is not a sin…How you get what you want is another matter.

  96. #96
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, drfredc said:

    McCain is doing the “wright” thing taking the high road. He’s done a great job saying loadly that spreading Obama’s Wright Foundation is not his responsibility — in other words, it’s up to the grass roots to spread the word on this sort of issue by any means it desires. This eliminates any means for the Dem’s to attack McCain, which can help attract wobbly Dem’s to McCain.

    This sort of grass roots undertaking could have been a huge problem in years past. Nowadays, with the internet blogosphere, youtube, rss, and emails, these sorts of ugly tasks can be easily and cost effectively dealt with by grass roots guerilla tactics. There’s too many very dynamically moving targets to shut down with a simple broadside attack by the Dem’s and drive-by media.

  97. #97
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    franksalterego said:
    Greed isn’t a product of being rich or poor…It’s a character flaw found all up and down the economic spectrum.

    Exactly, I agree.

    You look just like a friend of mine that passed away about 5 years ago, your his twin, I showed my wife and she said omg he does look Joe. Thanks for posting your pic I have fond memories of him.

  98. #98
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, John Ansell said:

    Nice Car Frank, now imagine if an illegal invader stole it from you just to take it for a joy ride. And at the end of the joy ride they strip it down and sell the parts for their drugs.

  99. #99
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm, franksalterego said:

    Are you wishing that on me?

    Are you telling on yourself, again?

    I’ve been told, I have an uncanny way of reading people.

  100. #100
    On April 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, John Ansell said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:47 pm, franksalterego said:,

    NO, NO, NO, NO I don’t wish that upon you nor anybody. That’s just what happens when the illegals invade communities. The sad part is that the police can’t do anything about it as we have special order 40. They are not allowed to check the legal status of criminals. THey do a small stint in jail come out and do it again.

    Are there homegrown losers that steal peoples stuff, Yes. But when they are here illegally, it’s just salt to the wound.

    I don’t wish you any bad luck, Frank. Just debating the illegals invation issue with ya.

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