Nancy Pelosi’s lost Biblical verse

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 24, 2008 10:06 AM

1abible.jpg On Earth Day, Nancy Pelosi quoted the Bible: “The Bible tells us in the Old Testament, ‘To minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’ On this Earth Day, and every day, let us honor the earth and our future generations with a commitment to fight climate change.”

Apparently, it’s a favorite verse of hers. She has used it in official statements on global warming, the budget, Martin Luther King Day, Christmas, and why she’s a Democrat. Jim Hoft has audio chronicles.

Dr. Claude Mariottini, an Old Testament scholar, noted on his blog last year and this year that no such Biblical verse exists.

CNS News asked other Bible scholars for the source of the quote in the Old Testament that Nancy Pelosi keeps invoking.

They can’t find it either.

Can you?

***

Maybe her couch buddy Newt Gingrich can help her out?

Blogger Joel Osborn: “I guess my questions about mixing church and state aren’t a concern here. Unless you count the made up religion of environmentalism.”

Stacy McCain gives Nan an assist:

Normally, I don’t help Democrats, but because I am bitterly clinging to my religion — and since I’m already working with Rush Limbaugh to help Hillary Clinton stage her comeback — in this case I’ll be happy to cite chapter and verse. Genesis 1:28:

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This verse kind of pisses off the Planned Parenthood crowd, to say nothing of the animal-rights activists.

Of course, Mrs. Pelosi is a typical liberal hypocrite in this regard. She supports population control, but has five children herself, much like Al Gore, who frets about mankind overwhelming the Earth but is a father of four, or Ted Turner, who supports China’s one-child policy but is himself a father of five.

Since Mrs. Pelosi seems to be in such need of biblical guidance, I suppose she won’t mind a backslid Baptist preaching her an old-time gospel sermon.

Because, you see, if you’ll “spend a little time in the Word” — as we bitter Bible-clingers are wont to do — once you get finished reading the Old Testament, you come to something we call the New Testament, which is about a guy named Jesus. Maybe you heard of him.

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  1. #299055
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am, WestCoastCoconut said:

    Well I would like to hear her spin on 2 Peter chapter 3? Is the world on fire because of global warming! How about the sun, the moon and the stars? Universal Warming? Climate Change Yeah right!!!

    It is all going to burn baby!

    2Pet 3:11 “Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives”

    So start to live righteous before God’s climate change gets a hold of your soul.

  2. #299056
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am, Mohawk said:

    She is a loon no two ways around it.

    She must want to educate all of her illegal immigrants workers to take better care of her land!!!

  3. #299059
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Trollman said:

    On-my-soap-box said:

    Actually, working the land is not an act of worship. Remember who laid down his offering from the products of the land which displeased GOD? What dishonors GOD is worshiping the land and ignoring HIM!

    God expected man to “keep” the land (Gen. 2:15). Obedience to God is absolutely an act of worship. We are to honor God in everything we do, so every act ought to be an act of worship.

    The Bible does not teach that God rejected Cain’s offering because it came from the land (although many preachers read this into the text).

    In fact, one of the offerings in Leviticus is the grain offering (Leviticus chapter 2), which did not involve animals or blood. It was second in importance only to the burnt offering.

    The Bible does approve of people using animals for food and clothing, but it does not condone being abusive to animals. The same holds true for the land.

    That doesn’t mean I agree with the environmentalists. They elevate the land over people, when the Bible clearly teaches that man comes before the animals and the land.

  4. #299061
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Laree said:

    Nancy Pelosi also stated she was a good church going Catholics..anyone see the citizens of San Fransico constantly mocking catholism…when was the last time she said, that is disrespectful to her religion?

    So now mother earth is the lastest “Scared Cow” for the Progressives? They will worship anything but the concept of a divine maker. What did the old testment state about “Idol Worship” craven images a golden calf. Progressives pandering to the religious and doing a real poor job of it.

  5. #299072
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am, vbmom said:

    San Fran is in its own little world, so it’s no shock that Pelosi must be quoting from a San Fran bible. We know that most “churches” there don’t even follow what the REAL bible says so they just make up their own as they go along.

  6. #299073
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Laree said:

    This falls under pagan worship the “earth” vs “divine”

    This reminds me of the golden calf this link is to an account from a Rabbi.

    http://www.mesora.org/goldencalf.html

  7. #299077
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am, AliasK said:

    … But there IS something in the Bible about worshiping the creation but not the Creator

  8. #299078
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am, BlackFlag55 said:

    Asking for a scriptural reference and Nancy Pelosi in the same breath …

    Exodus 22:18 – thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

  9. #299080
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am, MtsEdge said:

    30 pcs, re #82, you are so right. As someone much wiser than me once said, “If something is 99% true, it’s still a lie!”

  10. #299082
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Laree said:

    From the last link

    We must appreciate that the Israelites had recently been liberated from Egypt. In Egypt they were exposed to, and influenced by, the pagan practices of that society. Therefore, they still had an attraction to the primitive, and were still subject to the insecurities of the instinctual part of their personalities.

    Note to San Fran “They still had an attraction to the primitive” yes replacing the divine with the earth would fall under “primitive” or “pagan” which some people would describe some of San Fran’s cross dressing mocking the catholic church citizens.

  11. #299083
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Misscheryl said:

    Jim M – I can’t stop laughing…
    Jeeeze, I love this place!

  12. #299085
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:51 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Genesis: 4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor.

    It is pretty clear GOD was not pleased with Cain’s offering.

    Yes, doing all things as unto the LORD is worship. That being said, these enviro-nuts are not trying to save the planet for GOD or as worship to HIM.

  13. #299086
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    MtsEdge,
    I would have preferred that she stayed away from quoting the Bible altogether. :-)

  14. #299089
    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:55 am, MtsEdge said:

    Me, too, 30.

  15. #299107
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, Barry F. said:

    Stacy McCain gives Nan an assist:…

    Well, I think I like Stacy McCain. ;-)

  16. #299110
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, Dan Lee said:

    Listening to Nancy Pelosi quoting the Bible, is like Newt Gingrich or Vince Neil from “Motley Crew” giving marriage advice..

    ~ Dan Lee

  17. #299114
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Trollman said:

    On-my-soap-box said:

    Genesis: 4 But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor.

    It is pretty clear GOD was not pleased with Cain’s offering.

    God did not accept Cain’s offering, but the Bible doesn’t say why. Many preachers assume that it was because God wanted animal sacrifices only, but the Bible does not teach that. Since Cain hated and ended up killing his brother, the reason God rejected his offering was probably because of Cain’s attitude. Cain may have given the leftovers and not the first fruits, which also would have been insulting to God.

    In Leviticus 25:4, God commands that a Sabbath rest be given to the land every 7th year. So there are commands from God to take care of the land.

    The eye for an eye is a principle of justice – that the punishment ought to fit the crime. It sounds barbaric to those who are soft on punishment, and too nice for those who are too vengeful. It is neither harsh nor soft, it is a fair standard and indicates that punishment is a part of justice (whereas many liberals say it is wrong to punish, that our only goal should be to rehabilitate the criminal).

  18. #299133
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, lollington said:

    (whereas many liberals say it is wrong to punish, that our only goal should be to rehabilitate the criminal).

    As a Criminal Justice major, (a major about as useful as English, Philosophy or Religious Studies, as i found out), the prison system in America is set up to not only punish but rehabilitate as well. Prisons don’t do that which is why recidivism rates are so high. Granted, some are beyond rehabilitation, but its an important aspect of punishment nonetheless.

  19. #299135
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Yashmak said:

    Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    That doesn’t exactly sound like what Pelosi said. In fact, it sounds like almost the reverse of her ‘quote’.

  20. #299141
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    JimM if your not, you should be a comedy writer. LMAOROF :lol:

  21. #299147
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, cpodug said:

    Finally figured out where her vwerse came from. I’ve been pondering this all morning. It’s from the same book that she learned about ethics from.

  22. #299156
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, mattm said:

    I guess using the Bible is OK by Dems when the “verse” fits your world view. If a Republican tries it, it is a violation of “separation of church and state”

  23. #299176
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    There are several versions of the Bible, such as the King James edition or the New World edition. Apparently, this comes from the Democratic Party edition. Unfortunately, the Ten Commandments didn’t make it through editing.

  24. #299178
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Boomer said:

    Jim M. your exerts from the book of Al are hilarious yet somehow life changing. I will go forth and emit no more. :D

  25. #299182
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    CC,
    I wonder why… hmmmm. :-)

  26. #299187
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, rightisright said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 10:08 am, ajmontana said:
    This goofy whack job needs meds.

    Maybe that’s her problem she is on meds(drugs).

  27. #299198
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    As long as we’re making up verses, I swear my Bible has a commandment that says “Thou shalt not vote for Democrat candidates.” I follow it religiously.

  28. #299199
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, BrianNY said:

    ‘To minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’

    I heard that this is one of Paris Hilton’s favorite biblical passages too, she just couldn’t remember it when Larry King asked.

  29. #299203
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, gayle said:

    Off topic somewhat.

    If Pelosi gets more Botox injections maybe her face will split.

    She reads with eyes wide opened.

  30. #299207
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, Laree said:

    I am suprized, The Speaker reads, If you asked me, when handed a book, I would think all she does is chew on the cover and lick the pages :) Old but appropriate joke.

  31. #299219
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    Well 30,

    I guess the left just believes the Bible should justify their agenda, not drive it.

    Or because it was just too much work redefining words like adultery and covet.

  32. #299237
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    CC, HA!

  33. #299241
    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, ttevolla said:

    Over at DUmmie Funnies is a regular author as Jim. His writings are called The Book Of MoonBat
    His writings include chapter and verse… :)

  34. #299242
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    I think Pelosi might be reading from the Pegan Bible

  35. #299247
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    txvet2 said (#45):

    I disagree. I believe one of the main reasons that the left has attained so much power in this country is simply that their ideas are so ludicrous that people think it isn’t worth while debating them.

    Watcherdownsouth said (#59):

    Rusty, you are not only a troll, but an idiot troll. Go wander your little troll butt off and research how well your socialized medicine is working in Europe, Canada, etc.

    With conservatives arguing like this, it’s understandable that liberals win the arguments. Insult and dismissal are not reasons.

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

  36. #299260
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Trollman said:
    It is pretty clear GOD was not pleased with Cain’s offering.
    God did not accept Cain’s offering, but the Bible doesn’t say why. Many preachers assume that it was because God wanted animal sacrifices only, but the Bible does not teach that. Since Cain hated and ended up killing his brother, the reason God rejected his offering was probably because of Cain’s attitude. Cain may have given the leftovers and not the first fruits, which also would have been insulting to God.

    Maybe.

    Or

    The sacrifice was to be a blood sacrifice a precursor, if you will, of the requirement of the future sacrifice to come. GOD’s plan in sacrifice was the atonement of sin through shed blood. You still, to this day, can get blood out of a turnip.

    I will leave it there so as not to “proselytize” and upset some of our trolls.

  37. #299264
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    Insult and dismissal are not reasons.

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Links and statistical studies please to back up your claim that socialized medicine in Europe and Canada are “more effective”. Such a lovely and broad generalization, left so much room for error.

  38. #299271
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    lgm,
    Liberals throw pies, shout down their opponents and throw tantrums. They don’t debate…with the exception of Rusty. I hope you don’t call what you do debating…

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

    Proof? and does this mean that you’ll be on the next thing that’s smokin and headed towards Europe?

  39. #299278
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Here are is a start to claims on the contrary for our liberal “friends” from a Canadian no less:

    Socialized Medicine Doesn’t Work

    I was once a believer in socialized medicine. As a Canadian, I had soaked up the belief that government-run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people.

    My health care prejudices crumbled on the way to a medical school class. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute.

    Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care….

    I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic — with a three-year wait list; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.

    Government researchers now note that more than 1.5 million Ontarians (or 12% of that province’s population) can’t find family physicians. Health officials in one Nova Scotia community actually resorted to a lottery to determine who’d get a doctor’s appointment.

    These problems are not unique to Canada — they characterize all government-run health care systems.

    And this is but one of many. But you keep your head in the sand there LGM and toe the party line.

  40. #299280
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Bonsai Billy said:

    It’s in the New Testament, Matthew 25.

  41. #299285
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    lgm,

    Before you can “win” an argument you first have to make a point. You can’t say, “the earth is 4 billion years old now prove me wrong in 4 lines or less. See you can’t I win you lose.” That is a 5th grader debate tactic.

    Your posts did not make a case for Pillosee while most of us conservative comments tore her “quote” to pieces.

    Now you want to make a case for medacine in Europe? So you are doing the liberal tactic, “I say it is, you have to prove me wrong” while you will ignore any fact given.

    Go play with your other troll buddies. SCAT!

  42. #299306
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, Concerned Citizen said:
    …Apparently, this comes from the Democratic Party edition. Unfortunately, the Ten Commandments didn’t make it through editing.

    The only thing they could leave in their version that JESUS said was:

    “Render unto Caesar”

  43. #299318
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, BrianNY said:

    #132 lgm said:

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

    Make sure you tell that to wealthy Europeans, the next time they fly over to the United States for everything from annual checkups to oncology!

    Or perhaps they are just acting in solidarity with their Canadian brothers and sisters?

  44. #299323
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, Republican (By Default) said:

    I have a bachelor’s degree in Christian theology, and I can’t think of a single verse that even sounds similar to the one she’s claiming. Unless it’s in the apocrypha (the books that only a few obscure Bible translations tend to include because they’re so far-fetched).

    But maybe she’s thinking of this verse:

    Romans 1:25 – They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

  45. #299326
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Republican,
    That’s has to be it.

  46. #299327
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    That has to be it.

  47. #299328
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, JennyBea said:

    Nanny Pelosi just misremembered the bible, after misreading…I mean misleading about misreading…This is what Nancy Pelunatic read:

    “And God blessed them, and God said …. the earth, … the fish of the sea,… over every living thing … the earth….”

    I can totally see how she got Global Warming legislation out of that.

  48. #299329
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, lgm said:

    With conservatives arguing like this, it’s understandable that liberals win the arguments. Insult and dismissal are not reasons.

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

    Yes. Why don’t we voice our discontent by conducting ourselves in reasoned and peaceable fashion, like liberals?

    Wouldn’t the world be a better place then?

    /sarcasm off

  49. #299342
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, old trooper said:

    Nancy has never worked a day of her life.

    She is not to believed or trusted.

    The Democrat Legacy, like the Kennedy and Cintons never to be believed or trusted.

  50. #299349
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, emjem24 said:

    This woman quoting the Bible to prop up her liberal belief systems (if this quote even exists) is yet another typical example of liberal arrogance. This woman can malign Conservatives and their belief systems but when it suits her, she can use the Bible or make up a biblical verse to support her wacked out agenda.

    Hey Nancy, do you know the word “heretic?” :-(

  51. #299359
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, emjem24 said:

    CPO/AJ/30:

    Now, now, I think you’re being hard on San Fran. Perhaps, she’s got a perfect explanation for misusing the bible. Maybe she’s running out of Botox treatments and she’s feeling her age a little more?

    Nahhh, not even a devil’s advocate could defend something like this…. :roll:

  52. #299363
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, emjem24 said:

    self-edit: San Fran= San Fran Nan. Yeah, I have problems with the city but that’s another thread.

  53. #299383
    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, cpodug said:

    emjem24, I liver here in the middle of moonbat central, the home of Pete Stark-Raving-Mad, and only a few clicks from Bagdad-by-the-Bay, one place I never want to visit again, if I can avoid it. I feel your pain.

  54. #299390
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 10:12 am, 30 pcs of silver said:
    I get it!…you can cite the Bible when it is advantageous to your cause. However, at any other time, it’s all about separation of church and state.

    Read Michael Medved’s column from Wednesday about the double standard for religion.

    “CLINTON: You know, I have, ever since I’ve been a little girl, felt the presence of God in my life. And it has been a gift of grace that has, for me, been incredibly sustaining. But, really, ever since I was a child, I have felt the enveloping support and love of God and I have had the experiences on many, many occasions where I felt like the Holy Spirit was there with me as I made a journey.

    Just imagine if Bush had said that.

  55. #299394
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said #7:

    Math Man, have you ever read the Bible? Or, like many other liberals, do you believe that reading it and following its precepts are for other people?

    Yeah, you know, when you it bring up, the Bible had a couple of things right. For instance,

    1) An eye for an eye- the cretin who beat up the wheelchair-bound girl whose parents told him to shut up after harassing Mrs. Bush and her daughter should have gotten his just reward. Too bad too many passive, permisive liberals like yourself believe that criminals have more rights than their actual victims.

    2) Homosexuality is wrong. Another thing the Bible got right. In Ancient Times, it didn’t take a complete dunce to recognize that boy + girl= offspring and girl + girl or boy + boy= sin, certain std’s, societal rejection, and liberal poutiness in some corners.

    Aren’t you Jewish anyway? What does this have to do with you? Oh, that’s right you’re thread jacking.

    What was your point? :roll:

  56. #299398
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Kaos,
    No need to imagine. They ripped Romney to shreds over his Mormonism. Bush, well, just get in line. There’s just so much fodder there. But they can use religion and anything else as freely and carelessly as they want. What’s comical about all of this is that they do not have the final say.

  57. #299408
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said:
    There’s discussion with reasoning and facts, then there’s

    Then I guess this means you’ll be left out in the cold because you posess neither, right? :roll:

  58. #299423
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, lollington said:

    COULTER: God says, “Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.”

    FENN: Terrific. We’re Americans, so we should consume as much of the earth’s resources…

    COULTER: Yes! Yes.

    FENN: … as fast as we possibly can.

    COULTER: As opposed to living like the Indians.

  59. #299432
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, melinda said:

    Did she get that bible on her trip to Syria?

  60. #299437
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, emjem24 said:

    Rusty said:

    It wasn’t very long ago that socialized medicine was just a big joke. If either Democrat wins this election, it could be reality.

    Let’s hope you’re right!

    Rusty, have you heard of a little military healthcare program known as Tricare. It’s socialized health care, military style. I’m sure you and your little brigade of liberal buddies, have it all figured out and think that socialized medicine will make healthcare more available.

    Since you’re not in the military, I’ll let you in on a few tidbits of what Tricare is all about:

    1. In certain markets, medication is hard to come by. Many Tricare members pay out of pocket expenses (and if you have multiple prescriptions that’s not cheap) to get their medication. Something that was supposedly free (medication) is no longer the case.

    2. Hard to get Dr’s appointments. Do you understand, even comprehend, what it’s like to have to plan months in advance just to see a doctor? What if you’re preganant? Yeah, that works out.

    3. Not enough doctors, pharmacy techs, personnel. When you don’t have enough doctors to see to your needs, then there’s a problem.

    4. Sheer incompetence. Do you know that the military is hiring more foreign doctors whose medical training doesn’t meet the same stringent requirements in our country?

    Rusty, I don’t think you, or your other liberal buddies have any clue the kind of hell you and Obummer/Shrillary will put this country through with your utopian, health care nightmare. I’ve had 8 years of it… yeah, I’m really living the dream. :roll:

  61. #299440
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, wighttrasch said:

    The Bible condemns in stronger terms such things as working on Saturday, wearing clothes with blended fabric, and failing to forgive debts every seven years.

    …and Jesus did not come to do away with the law, but to clarify it. Which he did on every point made in the ‘legal’ portion of the OT. Unless you live by all thing Levitical, don’t use this as an argument. Pelosi is twisting words & calling it ’scripture’ which is the same thing that sent Lucifer hurtling out of Heaven like a falling star.

  62. #299467
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, Trollman said:

    The sacrifice was to be a blood sacrifice a precursor, if you will, of the requirement of the future sacrifice to come. GOD’s plan in sacrifice was the atonement of sin through shed blood. You still, to this day, can get blood out of a turnip.

    The entire sacrificial system pointed towards the sacrifice of Christ, but not all offerings had to do with sin. some of these offerings were primiarily/exclusively concerned with worship – Abel presented a burnt offering, and Cain a grain offering.

    The burnt offering was the most important and the most common offering in the sacrificial system. It symbolized the purest form of worship. The entire animal (minus the skin/fur) would be burned up. It signified that the person offering it dedicated all of themselves to the Lord, and the person gave himself to the Lord as the animal was sent to heaven via the smoke.

    The animals were skinned since burning hair is not a pleasing aroma, and the primary purpose of this offering was to be a fragrant aroma to the Lord. It did include an element of atonement for sin, but its primary purpose was a sign of love towards God.

    The grain offering wasn’t about sin, but was another of the “fragrant aroma” offerings. It signified that everything you have is dedicated to the Lord.

    The offerings for the atonement of sin – the sin offering and the guilt offering – were not fragrant aroma offerings. They did not represent a love towards God, but rather a lack of love (sin, and thus needed to be atoned for with the shedding of blood). These were necessitated by the wrath of God, but were not pleasing to God.

    I’m not trying to give people here a hard time, I’m just trying to save folks the embarrassment of being corrected about the Bible by a SanFran liberal. After all, even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

  63. #299487
    On April 24th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, Laree said:

    I figured it out she is not used to anyone listening to her so she felt free to say anthing. What else has she been failing to tell people because she doesn’t think they are listening…yada, yada, yada

  64. #299526
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Trollman,

    Can’t argue a single point. Suffice to say, Abel chose better (Mary vs. Martha and Martha got made at Mary too). I suppose when I look at offerings (of animal nature) I tend to lean toward the precursor to the Christ. There are other offerings, of course, as in gifts beyond tithe can be an offering. Those offerings do not point to the need for a sacrifice (of blood nature). While all of the offerings were for a reason, there was still a flood and a promise.

    I love this topic and could have this discussion all day but I was scolded by see-dubya the other day for going off topic so I yield the floor before I end up on it! :)

  65. #299554
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Trollman said:

    On-my-soap-box said:

    I love this topic and could have this discussion all day but I was scolded by see-dubya the other day for going off topic so I yield the floor before I end up on it!

    Hey, I’m just hoping I remember to watch Jeremiah Wright tomorrow night. Then we’ll learn what’s really in the Bible (Death to America, blame whitey, abortion rights) as opposed to that watered-down-Gospel that I hear at church (God is love, turn the other cheek, etc.).

  66. #299564
    On April 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm, cpodug said:

    How about, “vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord”

  67. #299615
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    dejack, you cracked me up with:

    “Yes 30 pcs, you left one thing out. The Bible is a living and breathing document. Much like our Constitution you are free to add or delete passages at will that you find uncomfortable.”

    Except that it hurt to laugh because it’s so true. Thank God for the internet, which brings idiocies like this to light! Maybe Pelosi’s facial Botox injections are going to her brain, like that recent study on Botox in rats.

  68. #299649
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, Fodder_Jack said:

    Hebrews 13:17
    “Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.”

  69. #299653
    On April 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, gayle said:

    Along with Pelosi, the entire congressional idiots need to READ the book of Revelations.

    You’d think that would scare the crap out of them.

  70. #299677
    On April 24th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    FYI, medicine is more effective in Europe than here, with the exception of certain very expensive and rarely used (both there and here) procedures.

    Conclusion. The United States spends much more on health care compared to all other OECD countries. Although bed capacity is lower compared with countries without waiting times, day surgery capacity is probably comparable or higher. The majority of providers of surgery is private and is highly incentivised to meet demand by activity-related payments. [Emphasis added]

    Source

    The free market works. Remove the incentive and the rush to develop new procedures is reduced to a trickle.

  71. #299758
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, TanyaB said:

    I don’t know what “bible” Ms Polosi is quoting!! Must be a new environmental version.
    The bible ( King James version),says in
    Genesis 8:22: While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.”
    It didn’t say that there would ever be a greenhouse effect in any way, shape or form. God just stated a fact, He made a promise. And I prefer to believe him and not the great Gore, and followers.

  72. #299763
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Politicalguano said:

    Nancy Pelosi had her eyebrows surgically lifted to hide her lobotomy scars. This woman is a moron. She became leader of the House Democrats by being the most ruthless, vicious, revenge seeking, dishonorable, outright liar. She is a thief’s thief!

  73. #299777
    On April 24th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, starlightwoman said:

    Well you know – over the years there have been many interpretations of the bible written from King James to the Jefferson version. I think Nancy Pelosi is now trying to create her own – after all she’s great at imbelishing already.

  74. #299898
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Jim M. said:

    Is it just me, or does it occur to anyone else that Nancy Pelosi bears a striking resemblence to an ostrich? The whole “head in the sand” deal is just icing on the cake.

  75. #299929
    On April 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, angryoldfatman said:

    On April 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am, AliasK said:

    … But there IS something in the Bible about worshiping the creation but not the Creator

    Yep. A couple of times at least.

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    I think Pelosi might be reading from the P[a]gan Bible

    Pretty much. A little time with Google reveals as much:

    Blessing:

    We invoke the blessing of God’s Spirit so that our spirit may be renewed to discern God’s presence and the cosmic Christ in creation.

    [...]

    Serving Earth
    We are called to minister to creation. Earlier (Chapter Three ) we discussed the implications of the mandate to dominate found in Genesis 1.26-28. That mandate has been one of the factors in our alienation from Earth. We now return to Genesis Two where the first commission of God to serve and sustain Earth is announced.

    Full Google search here, complete with reference to a Theosophy book. Theosophy is a New Age heresy, by the way.

    On April 24th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Bonsai Billy said:

    It’s in the New Testament, Matthew 25.

    But there’s only… oh… :D

  76. #299974
    On April 24th, 2008 at 10:26 pm, garyt said:

    LGM since you are a bible expert will you try and find excerpts and verses that show that abortion is legal especially in the third trimester? The Lord told us to be good stewards of the earth but sometimes I think people Love the “Creation” abut hate the Creator.

  77. #300038
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:32 am, joeblough said:

    .

    … replenish the earth, and subdue it

    Gimme a doh!

    It’s not mere stupidity. (Dumb though she is). It’s malice and lying.

    The head libs really are bad people.

  78. #300147
    On April 25th, 2008 at 8:45 am, notanexpert said:

    #151:
    “CLINTON: You know, …
    Just imagine if Bush had said that.

    I think I can explain the double standard: If Bush had said it, people would have believed he really meant it, thus it would be offensive to people who are offended by sincere expression of faith.

    On the other hand, people know that Hillary will say anything if it serves her purpose. Does anyone think for one moment that she was being sincere? I think not. Thus, what’s for those same people to get offended about? Her false claim to faith is offensive to the faithful, not to the anti-theists.

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