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		<title>By: cngerms</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/24/the-weather-ground-ization-of-the-public-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-301119</link>
		<dc:creator>cngerms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m requesting a little education with this question, please: Do any readers here believe that the weather-forecasting website creators of weatherunderground.com have some kind of affinity for the Weatherman Underground group? I&#039;ve always been curious about the title of the website, but I never knew of the Weatherman Underground radical group until now.Are the weatherunderground.com folks making some kind of political statement with the title of their website? I&#039;d like to hear your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m requesting a little education with this question, please: Do any readers here believe that the weather-forecasting website creators of weatherunderground.com have some kind of affinity for the Weatherman Underground group? I&#8217;ve always been curious about the title of the website, but I never knew of the Weatherman Underground radical group until now.Are the weatherunderground.com folks making some kind of political statement with the title of their website? I&#8217;d like to hear your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, where do you think non-public school teachers come from? Non-public schools can be overtly political (in the best sort of way) but rarely are.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I agree with your point entirely, but what I was attempting to say was that most  private schools, those without a particular political or religious ideology,i.e., madrases, often allow teachers more autonomy to ferret out the  agenda-based contents of many text and prescriptive instructional programs; plus, private schools have a more vested interest in meeting community standards and are more open to the input of parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, where do you think non-public school teachers come from? Non-public schools can be overtly political (in the best sort of way) but rarely are.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with your point entirely, but what I was attempting to say was that most  private schools, those without a particular political or religious ideology,i.e., madrases, often allow teachers more autonomy to ferret out the  agenda-based contents of many text and prescriptive instructional programs; plus, private schools have a more vested interest in meeting community standards and are more open to the input of parents.</p>
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		<title>By: FullosseousFlap&#8217;s Dental Blog &#187; Barack Obama Watch: The REAL Bill Ayers Problem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FullosseousFlap&#8217;s Dental Blog &#187; Barack Obama Watch: The REAL Bill Ayers Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle points out by referring to Sol Stern&#8217;s piece in City Journal is &#8220;NOT the damage done by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: alamedaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alamedaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly not supporting him, but its silly to automatically throw out readings because of their anti-establishment view. For example, you have students read Mein Kampf but also the Diary of Anne Frank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly not supporting him, but its silly to automatically throw out readings because of their anti-establishment view. For example, you have students read Mein Kampf but also the Diary of Anne Frank.</p>
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		<title>By: oldcollegeguy1980</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SylviaMarie

Thank you, I think, for that link.  It only served to confirm the picture I have of Ayers.  

Cowards such as Ayers must always find ways to belittle or humiliate others.  This way through the humiliation of others they can continue to wallow in their own cesspool of thought and victimhood.  

He is not a man, he did what he did to that young lady because of his lack of manhood. And it is in that lack of manhood that fuels his anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SylviaMarie</p>
<p>Thank you, I think, for that link.  It only served to confirm the picture I have of Ayers.  </p>
<p>Cowards such as Ayers must always find ways to belittle or humiliate others.  This way through the humiliation of others they can continue to wallow in their own cesspool of thought and victimhood.  </p>
<p>He is not a man, he did what he did to that young lady because of his lack of manhood. And it is in that lack of manhood that fuels his anger.</p>
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		<title>By: libertybelle</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/24/the-weather-ground-ization-of-the-public-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-299840</link>
		<dc:creator>libertybelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49

What, praytell, are the pro-establishment readings that Ayers is using in his classroom (or other commie/terrorist teachers like him) to balance out the anti-establishment readings in order to give his students a broad view of all sides?

I still can&#039;t even believe that a known terrorist is teaching at a public university. It&#039;s sickening. I can&#039;t wait until the U of C in Berkeley hires Bin Laden to teach International Relations 101...or maybe they would get real &quot;tolerant&quot; and put him in charge of their Feminist Studies classes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49</p>
<p>What, praytell, are the pro-establishment readings that Ayers is using in his classroom (or other commie/terrorist teachers like him) to balance out the anti-establishment readings in order to give his students a broad view of all sides?</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t even believe that a known terrorist is teaching at a public university. It&#8217;s sickening. I can&#8217;t wait until the U of C in Berkeley hires Bin Laden to teach International Relations 101&#8230;or maybe they would get real &#8220;tolerant&#8221; and put him in charge of their Feminist Studies classes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChristmasGhost</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristmasGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be &lt;em&gt;terribly amusing&lt;/em&gt; if the pretend revolutionaries got what they &quot;claim&quot; they want?
 Instead of dealing with police and other well mannered public servants that have to follow the law even when the protesting scum don&#039;t..what if real American revolutionaries showed up and kicked their useless asses?
 Who would the &quot;protesters&quot; call to help them? The cops? Hardly.
 And who would they complain to and sue?
 And who would listen to them and care?
 Hey.....I can &lt;em&gt;dream&lt;/em&gt;, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be <em>terribly amusing</em> if the pretend revolutionaries got what they &#8220;claim&#8221; they want?<br />
 Instead of dealing with police and other well mannered public servants that have to follow the law even when the protesting scum don&#8217;t..what if real American revolutionaries showed up and kicked their useless asses?<br />
 Who would the &#8220;protesters&#8221; call to help them? The cops? Hardly.<br />
 And who would they complain to and sue?<br />
 And who would listen to them and care?<br />
 Hey&#8230;..I can <em>dream</em>, right?</p>
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		<title>By: GaMidnightRider</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaMidnightRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;On April 24th, 2008 at 6:52 pm, cf said: 
And of course Ayers and Dohrn are members of the elite establishment in Chicago; Daley supports them, and of course the MSM does also. Since Ayers is ‘teaching’ at a state school, guess who is paying for him to spew this garbage?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;


I know scary what your tax money pays for. Taxation without the proper representation seems there was  war started over that,..... hmmm 

TO ARMS  TO ARMS..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><br />
<blockquote>On April 24th, 2008 at 6:52 pm, cf said:<br />
And of course Ayers and Dohrn are members of the elite establishment in Chicago; Daley supports them, and of course the MSM does also. Since Ayers is ‘teaching’ at a state school, guess who is paying for him to spew this garbage?
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<p>I know scary what your tax money pays for. Taxation without the proper representation seems there was  war started over that,&#8230;.. hmmm </p>
<p>TO ARMS  TO ARMS..</p>
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		<title>By: Buckaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buckaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 49

   to tacitly endorse said &quot;anti-establishment readings&quot; that come direct from an admitted, unrepentant terrorist does not show &quot;both sides of an issue&quot; it normalizes the extreme &amp; lawless fringe of one of those sides!


/would you like ksm to publish a curriculum about international relations in the middle east?  somehow methinks that might just be a bit &quot;myopic&quot; too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 49</p>
<p>   to tacitly endorse said &#8220;anti-establishment readings&#8221; that come direct from an admitted, unrepentant terrorist does not show &#8220;both sides of an issue&#8221; it normalizes the extreme &amp; lawless fringe of one of those sides!</p>
<p>/would you like ksm to publish a curriculum about international relations in the middle east?  somehow methinks that might just be a bit &#8220;myopic&#8221; too!</p>
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		<title>By: ChristmasGhost</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristmasGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in high school when &quot;billy the bomber&quot; and all the other &lt;strong&gt;trust fund babies&lt;/strong&gt; were running around trying to prove to thugs like the black panthers what swell buds they could be.
 I suffered through the fear and destruction in the bay area that they wrought.Ayers and his ilk aren&#039;t heroes...they are scum. And prison would be way too good for them.Perhaps &lt;strong&gt;under&lt;/strong&gt; the new world trade center would be much much better.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in high school when &#8220;billy the bomber&#8221; and all the other <strong>trust fund babies</strong> were running around trying to prove to thugs like the black panthers what swell buds they could be.<br />
 I suffered through the fear and destruction in the bay area that they wrought.Ayers and his ilk aren&#8217;t heroes&#8230;they are scum. And prison would be way too good for them.Perhaps <strong>under</strong> the new world trade center would be much much better&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: cf</title>
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		<dc:creator>cf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course Ayers and Dohrn are members of the elite establishment in Chicago; Daley supports them, and of course the MSM does also.  Since Ayers is &#039;teaching&#039; at a state school, guess who is paying for him to spew this garbage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course Ayers and Dohrn are members of the elite establishment in Chicago; Daley supports them, and of course the MSM does also.  Since Ayers is &#8216;teaching&#8217; at a state school, guess who is paying for him to spew this garbage?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Ladybug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Ladybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was working on my recently earned M.Ed. to get my teaching certification, one of the required 12 courses was &quot;Multicultural Education&quot;.  One of the websites the prof (who also was involved in some way with the bilingual education teaching program) used in class was put up by some leftist wacko prof at another university promoting &quot;social justice&quot;.  &quot;Social justice&quot; sounds good on the surface: who wouldn&#039;t want &quot;justice&quot; in &quot;society&quot;, but it&#039;s really just poorly disguised communism for those who are paying attention.  Most all my classmates were older (e.g. - career-changing adults), but I am still troubled with the thought of education students, going into a teaching program straight out of high school, being subjected to this type of subtle brainwashing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was working on my recently earned M.Ed. to get my teaching certification, one of the required 12 courses was &#8220;Multicultural Education&#8221;.  One of the websites the prof (who also was involved in some way with the bilingual education teaching program) used in class was put up by some leftist wacko prof at another university promoting &#8220;social justice&#8221;.  &#8220;Social justice&#8221; sounds good on the surface: who wouldn&#8217;t want &#8220;justice&#8221; in &#8220;society&#8221;, but it&#8217;s really just poorly disguised communism for those who are paying attention.  Most all my classmates were older (e.g. &#8211; career-changing adults), but I am still troubled with the thought of education students, going into a teaching program straight out of high school, being subjected to this type of subtle brainwashing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alamedaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alamedaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is it wrong to read anti-establishment readings? Isn&#039;t it good to have students understand both sides of issues- or should they just have a myopic view of the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is it wrong to read anti-establishment readings? Isn&#8217;t it good to have students understand both sides of issues- or should they just have a myopic view of the world?</p>
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		<title>By: As usual, it&#8217;s fidel&#8217;s fault</title>
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		<dc:creator>As usual, it&#8217;s fidel&#8217;s fault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fausta has more on the Obama/Ayers link. As does Michelle Malkin.And while Ayers says in the above clip he has trouble remembering, one woman has no trouble [...]</description>
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		<title>By: libertybelle</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/24/the-weather-ground-ization-of-the-public-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-299412</link>
		<dc:creator>libertybelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things:

1.) Everyone needs to read &quot;Radical Son&quot; by David Horowitz. In fact, THAT book should be required reading in every single English/Philosophy/History/Politics class. He openly and honestly discusses how Communism was embedded in so many places (i.e. the New York City Teacher&#039;s Union was actually, literally a front for the Communist party...I would say it still is...), and how they latched on to other causes to increase their ranks and dilute their true agenda in order to attract more middle of road people (such as the current Ecochondriac/Communist/Socialist ties).
Very, very interesting read.

2.) As someone who wanted to teach and went back to school (University of Oxford - so I did not attend an American university) to get a graduate teaching certificate in Secondary Math - a pretty apolitical subject - I still made the decision to NOT teach in public schools after some serious thought. I refuse to be forced into joining a &lt;strike&gt;teacher&#039;s&lt;/strike&gt; communist&#039;s union.

I sat through general ed classes as well as my specific, math oriented classes and believe me, they are teaching the teachers how to raise little communists, and on top of that, teaching the math teachers to not teach math - just that &quot;fuzzy math.&quot;

Now I teach adults at a non-profit, where I am totally in control of my own curriculum, and I like to throw in real-life examples when studying percentages, for instance, i.e. look at how much the government takes from your paycheck.

Lastly, when I have children, they will be homeschooled, and luckily, I have a teaching certificate so when Big Brother decides to go the California route and require teaching credentials, everyone can send their kids to me. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1.) Everyone needs to read &#8220;Radical Son&#8221; by David Horowitz. In fact, THAT book should be required reading in every single English/Philosophy/History/Politics class. He openly and honestly discusses how Communism was embedded in so many places (i.e. the New York City Teacher&#8217;s Union was actually, literally a front for the Communist party&#8230;I would say it still is&#8230;), and how they latched on to other causes to increase their ranks and dilute their true agenda in order to attract more middle of road people (such as the current Ecochondriac/Communist/Socialist ties).<br />
Very, very interesting read.</p>
<p>2.) As someone who wanted to teach and went back to school (University of Oxford &#8211; so I did not attend an American university) to get a graduate teaching certificate in Secondary Math &#8211; a pretty apolitical subject &#8211; I still made the decision to NOT teach in public schools after some serious thought. I refuse to be forced into joining a <strike>teacher&#8217;s</strike> communist&#8217;s union.</p>
<p>I sat through general ed classes as well as my specific, math oriented classes and believe me, they are teaching the teachers how to raise little communists, and on top of that, teaching the math teachers to not teach math &#8211; just that &#8220;fuzzy math.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I teach adults at a non-profit, where I am totally in control of my own curriculum, and I like to throw in real-life examples when studying percentages, for instance, i.e. look at how much the government takes from your paycheck.</p>
<p>Lastly, when I have children, they will be homeschooled, and luckily, I have a teaching certificate so when Big Brother decides to go the California route and require teaching credentials, everyone can send their kids to me. <img src='http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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