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If you’re going to complain about gas prices, Nancy…

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 25, 2008 09:08 AM

…maybe you should know what gas prices are before you go on the attack. Ask your government driver to let you know the next he/she makes a stop at that thing called a gas station. Man of the People Larry King actually has to correct her–and does a good job pressing her to explain what happened to her big promise two years ago to bring gas prices down:

Watch her stammer, blink, and struggle to quickly pull a number out of her hat.

I have no idea where she got the “$2.56 on average” figure.

Maybe it was in her Bible.

After King tells her the average is $3.50, she mumbles “Oh, it’s down six cents.”

Huh?

Liberal math.

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In San Francisco, fyi, the average gas price is $3.98/gallon.

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  1. #1
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:10 am, ajmontana said:

    Up were shes from it’s 3.99 or over $4.00 get a clue Pelosi Galore.

  2. #2
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:10 am, BKennedy said:

    Pelosi: All Gas prices are equal, but some gas prices are more equal than others!

  3. #3
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:20 am, rbb said:

    Who cares about RUG, do something about the price of diesel!!!

  4. #4
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:21 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    pressing her to explain what happened to her big promise two years ago to bring gas prices down

    Funny, I didn’t hear him press her on that. Sounds like she passed the buck to me.

    I can’t stand Shrill and I do not agree with what she said:

    “ah will take them theres oil companies profits”

    At least Shrill had the nads to say something - as wrong as it was.

  5. #5
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:22 am, Marshall Russ said:

    I hope the prices go to $10.00 a gallon in San FranNansisco. The screeching liberal tree huggers that Nan is beholden to are a large part of the reason they are so high.

  6. #6
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Gothguy said:

    How on earth does she keep getting re-elected?

  7. #7
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:29 am, rooster said:

    Watch her stammer, blink, and struggle to quickly pull a number out of her hat.

    Stuck on Stupid.

    The twitching is a diabolical device crafted and implanted using a crack team of Cheny and Rove operatives. This is to give her life-like features at state of the union addresses, Comedy Central appearances and ever important Larry King Intelligence Summaries.

    Thank you Larry for pointing out the real cost of gas.

    Note to Cheney and Rove; Fix the automotron response to correct hi/low polarity for computations.

  8. #8
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Sad to say you are the Speaker of the House. You are a crapweasel.

  9. #9
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:31 am, bloghooligan said:

    LOL.

    while the Nancy Pelosi not-knowing-wtf-she’s-talking-about angle of this story is funny if not predictable…i’m more shocked Larry King asked a cogent question.

    lets give it up for Larry…trying to keep Katie from his time slot *applause*

  10. #10
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:33 am, GOPGin said:

    I’d gladly pay $2.56/gallon, as I’m sure most Californians would too.

    I’d like to know when Nancy’s going to do something about the rising price of arugula.

  11. #11
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:33 am, fourstringfuror said:

    It’s about $3.65 in my of the woods. Rather than piss and moan about gas, you know what we do? Adjust. We drive where we want, but we plan our trips a little more carefully, and we cut back on non-essentials (that would include giant TV’s, fancy phone plans, eating out, etc., for you gimme-gimme liberals out there).

    Sure, we want gas prices to go down, but when I hear the words government, big oil, profits, all I hear is “we will take from the rich and give to the poor, out of fairness.” It smacks of socialism.

  12. #12
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:36 am, tropicalwave12 said:

    Is this still a Government “Of the people, by the people and for the people?”

    and Let me quote a litte piece from the Declaration of Independence
    “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence”

  13. #13
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:40 am, GOPGin said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:29 am, rooster said:

    The twitching is a diabolical device crafted and implanted using a crack team of Cheny and Rove operatives. This is to give her life-like features at state of the union addresses, Comedy Central appearances and ever important Larry King Intelligence Summaries.

    Note to Cheney and Rove; Fix the automotron response to correct hi/low polarity for computations.

    LOL!

  14. #14
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:41 am, cpodug said:

    $2.56 on average

    Probably a true statement, because the government doesn’t tax itself. If she gets it from government pumps, watch the price go down. I’ve heard that the price of a gallon of gas is more than doubled by the time all the federal, state and local taxes are figured in. If she were serious about lowering the price of gas, she’d be trying to get the taxes lowered on it.

    However, I also notice that she’s all for slapping a “windfall profits” tax on the oil companies. Hey, numbskull moonbat idiot Madam Speaker, who do you think is going to pay THAT tax? Like any good business, they pass that along to the consumer as a cost of doing business.

  15. #15
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am, Politicalguano said:

    Nancy Pelosi is a moron. Her eyebrows have been surgically elevated to cover her frontal lobotomy scars. Only the White House drive by media press are more ignorant. (D) = DUMB SQUARED.
    The woman can barely blink and she is the (D) leader in the House. Think about it. This woman is wrong about everything, probably the first human in history to attain perfect stupidity.

  16. #16
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am, micktexan said:

    The sad thing is that Pelosi is one of the more intelligent Liberals…

    How did this country ever get to a point where idiots like this end up in seats of power?

    Maybe the Russians were right when they took over power…a massive purge to get rid of the idiots…

  17. #17
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:47 am, The Whole Bird said:

    Ah, yes. Shades of Barry talking about the price of fancy lettuce in a store that his audience can’t even shop and George H.W. Bush being amazed by a price scanner.

    Criticize Bill Clinton all we want, but at least he knew what a Big Mac was. :)

    Ah, Washington elitism at its finest!

    Remember folks, it’s our duty to pray for Bush & Cheney’s health every day. The absolute last thing this country can stand is a President Pelosi. *shudder*

  18. #18
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am, terristeelmagnolia said:

    I think the Botox has gotten into her brain.

  19. #19
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am, nyc123me said:

    she doesn’t have a friggin clue.. that is disgusting.

  20. #20
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:49 am, old trooper said:

    Pelosi intelligent?

    Nope. Elitist Liberal Rich witch…Yes!

    Money + Ambition + Ego = Pelosi.
    Period.

  21. #21
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:49 am, emjem24 said:

    San Fran Nan: The leader of the party who vowed to bring down gas prices only to discover that, gee, she really doesn’t know what the average gas price is right now, or even that little thing known as “supply and demand.”

    Hey, Nancy, when you actually drive yourself to work once in a while, perhaps you will feel the pain that the rest of us feel about how much a gallon of gas is right now. :roll:

    Oh, and when are you we going to drill for our own oil? You know the kind that’s currently sitting in the ground right now in ANWAR and other places?

    How ’bout some more refineries while you’re at it?

  22. #22
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:51 am, flmom said:

    You have to give credit to John Boehner for calling on Nancy Pelosi’s promise to cut gas prices, two years ago. This is why Michelle’s call to support your local conservatives is right on the money. Without the ‘John Boehners’ in Washington, she wouldn’t be in the hot seat on this issue.

  23. #23
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am, Trunk Monkey said:

    Maybe the Russians were right when they took over power…a massive purge to get rid of the idiots…

    Only in my dream, this dolt represents my state…..sorry America.

  24. #24
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am, lgm said:

    Bush also didn’t know the price of gas when asked last week.

  25. #25
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:54 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    She must’ve meant 2.56 EUROS.

    Gas is over $4/gallon here where I live in CA…

  26. #26
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am, tmitsss said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am, terristeelmagnolia said:

    I think the Botox has gotten into her brain.

    you may be on to something

    Botox May Move From Face to Brain, Study in Rats Says (Update1)

  27. #27
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am, wighttrasch said:

    I’m beginning to think that liberal talking heads & liberal chosen ones always have to look like this. Then, if we poke fun of the appearances (rotten teeth, sagging breasts, hirsute women, botoxed social climbers, michael moores…)we are the bad guys for making looks an issue.

    If she has one more face-lift she’ll have a beard!

  28. #28
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:57 am, undrseige247 said:

    After King tells her the average is $3.50, she mumbles “Oh, it’s down six cents.”

    There’s a good explanation for her response:

    She misunder-remembered the factual reover-figured gas price and was having gas problems at that time.

    You just wouldn’t understand.

  29. #29
    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:58 am, emjem24 said:

    lgm said:
    Bush also didn’t know the price of gas when asked last week.

    Could you supply an example of this with a link or are we going to have to take your word on that?

    Even if he did say that, I wouldn’t be surprised. He doesn’t drive his own vehicle to work, the same with Pelosi, so what exactly is your point?

    Another thought experiment? :roll:

  30. #30
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am, ajmontana said:

    he’s right emjem, but Bush wasnt off by a dollar forty three…..

  31. #31
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am, spidgy said:

    Masterstroke working in Bush into her lame explanation.

    Yeah, LK rocks the house!

  32. #32
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:01 am, rooster said:

    Seriously folks, how would nancy know what gas costs? She has a government credit card to fill her tank. She ain’t payin’, or looking at the price. Why? The governments paying for it. What the hey….no-brainer here folks.

  33. #33
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:03 am, srhoades said:

    Liberal math.

    Or Fuzzy Math, they’re the same thing.

  34. #34
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am, rooster said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am, wighttrasch said:
    I’m beginning to think that liberal talking heads & liberal chosen ones always have to look like this. Then, if we poke fun of the appearances (rotten teeth, sagging breasts, hirsute women, botoxed social climbers, michael moores…)we are the bad guys for making looks an issue.

    If she has one more face-lift she’ll have a beard!

    Eeeeew, I just lost my breakfast.

  35. #35
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Dang people, we all missed it. She said she would bring down the price of gas and she did - to $2.56.

    Next she will bring down taxes to $2.56 and balance the budget with a surplus of - you guessed it - $2.56!

  36. #36
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Boomer said:

    If San Fran Nan is getting the fuel for her taxpayer provided vehicle she may have been pretty close to what government agencies are paying per gallon. The Air Force currently pays $2.97 for Unleaded and $3.01 for Diesel since the Government does not tax itself. Although if fuel is bought off base we pay $4.78 for unleaded so most vehicles are not allowed to far from the base right now. Since it is Friday and I am in a pretty good mood I thought I would throw a bone to this elitist snob liberal idiot. It just goes to show how out of touch all of our political overlords are with the plight of the common citizen thanks to decades of environmentalist/government interference and poor energy policy from both parties.

  37. #37
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:09 am, Concerned Citizen said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am, lgm said:
    Bush also didn’t know the price of gas when asked last week.

    Oh, the places we can go with this.

    1. Do you really think they stop to get gas in the presidential motorcade? “Hang on, Mr. President, we’re gonna top off the tank, the prices are 3 cents a gallon cheaper here.”

    2. President Bush didn’t make a promise to lower prices. If you make such a promise and then don’t even know what the current price is, that shows that that you really didn’t care in the first place.

    3. What makes you think there’s an equivalent here? I’m sure there’s plenty of people of both parties that take public transportation and don’t know the price of gas. Stop the foolish tit for tat business, it’s just a crutch to hide the fact that you don’t have an answer.

  38. #38
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:12 am, franksalterego said:

    May I remind you…

    This was known as the “commonsense” plan to lower gas prices.

    heh,heh,heh

  39. #39
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:13 am, ajmontana said:

    If it doesnt go down at least 2 bucks on the national average I’m still screwed here. 10, 15 or 20 cents BFD.

  40. #40
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:14 am, SHoward said:

    Concerned Citizen’s point No. 2 is really the most salient point. Pelosi promised to bring prices down, so we can reasonably expect her to keep tabs on what the price actually is.

    I’ll admit, though, at least to deny fodder to political enemies, Bush should have known approximately what a gallon was going for.

  41. #41
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:14 am, nyc123me said:

    Is there anyone left in a political power seat that’s not a complete retard now?

  42. #42
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:14 am, TexasPride said:

    She keeps blaming Bush and trotting out the same lines abotu how it’s gone up this much or that much since Bush took office.

    *****Well, when you made the claim that the Democrats had a plan to lower the price, he was already in office. That hasn’t changed. You said you could bring down the price, but you forgot to include the phrase “someday when Bush leaves office?” Nope.

  43. #43
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am, nyc123me said:

    “If she has one more face-lift she’ll have a beard!”
    ROFLMAO!

  44. #44
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am, Mister P said:

    Apparently the US has enough untapped gas reserves to supply this country till the end of the century. She, the Democrats, and the left leaning Republicans are responsible for the current high prices, US dependance on oil, and the current situation in the Middle East.

  45. #45
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:16 am, st_james said:

    #42 - Exactly!

    Nancy, what have you and your party done for us?!

  46. #46
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am, LC said:

    $3.97 where am I in Santa Clara, CA. And that’s the cheap stuff. You want diesel? Forgetaboudit…that’s around $4.40/gal.

  47. #47
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:21 am, Peejz said:

    Good grief! Of all people to be corrected by it was Larry King!

  48. #48
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am, undrseige247 said:

    She should lay off the LSD.

  49. #49
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am, hatelibs said:

    This is what AlGore and the environmental kooks wanted to make us stop driving. Oh yeah, they also promised to bring down prices….how?

    1. Refuse to allow more drilling.
    (Perfect approach to the laws of supply and demand.)

    2. Tax the crap out of oil companies to make them lower the price.
    (Exactly the way to make a business cut its profit margin…steal the profits.)

    3. Promote alternative fuels.
    (Does anybody….anybody know of the magic pill or substance to replace oil?)

    Why aren’t these people torn to shreds about being completely dead wrong and the major cause of high energy and gas prices???? I forgot, the Lame Stream Media is on their side.

    And I left out the part about not tapping into the vast supplies of oil we have thus reducing the power and influence terrorist nations have because of their oil production….and keeping USA at the mercy of these dangerous countries.

    Nice going your liberal jackasses!

  50. #50
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, franksalterego said:

    Related:

    When you search Google Images, “Peter Principle” Nancy appears, third line.

    Movin’ on up

  51. #51
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, BrianNY said:

    Agreed. “Oh, it’s down six cents” is a strange thing to say after you just misquoted the national average price of a gallon of gas by one dollar.

    Does anyone else see similarities in performance style between Nancy Pelosi and Paris Hilton? A lot of blank stares and blinking and a lot of baffling answers.

    Methinks SanFranNan could garnish more credibility if she just answered every question with, “that’s hot.”

  52. #52
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Lgm,

    Do you blame Bush for your mental retardation as well? Do you think Pillosee is making good on her word to bring down the price of gas?

  53. #53
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:25 am, spo-con said:

    I too am surprised that Larry asked her that question, instead of what her favorite wall color is. Yes sir, 2 years ago they had a plan to bring down the oil prices. They get in control, the plan is to tell Bush to lower them. Gosh, why didn’t we think of that one. Nan, you’re baked!

  54. #54
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am, BOB said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am, Politicalguano said:
    Nancy Pelosi is a moron. Her eyebrows have been surgically elevated to cover her frontal lobotomy scars. Only the White House drive by media press are more ignorant. (D) = DUMB SQUARED.
    The woman can barely blink and she is the (D) leader in the House. Think about it. This woman is wrong about everything, probably the first human in history to attain perfect stupidity.

    Very funny. I don’t know if she is the first, but she is one of the most obvious idiots.

  55. #55
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am, orlandocajun said:

    I don’t like her anymore than any other conservative, but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she misspoke and meant to say $3.56. In any event, I didn’t her her answer about her big plan to lower prices.

    Bush isn’t anymore responsible for the prices increasing than she is able to lower them. It’s too bad that there are so many people in this country gullible enough to fall for political rhetoric.

  56. #56
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:32 am, BrianNY said:

    Oh, and I love Nancy’s stage set. It looks like she borrowed it from Barack’s “transcendental” press conference on race.

    Six “Old Glory’s” is a rather unusual background set for a lib from San Fran, no?

    It must be an election year. Kinda like breaking out the white patent leathers after March 21st.

  57. #57
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:33 am, xler8bmw said:

    The governemnt can do nothing about lowering the gas price unless it stops taxing. I don’t know why these idiots like her keep investigating on the taxpayer dollar the fuel companies. The cost of gas is up because of the futures market so, unless everyone now wants the feds to run wall street too then we have to live with it!

  58. #58
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:34 am, shawn_jaeger said:

    Re: “George H.W. Bush being amazed by a price scanner” in post #17.

    While off-topic, this has been discredited for years but lives on in legend. If I recall correctly, the surprise (this happened in the early 90’s) had to do with technology that could read torn and damaged UPC codes, which at the time most scanners couldn’t handle. Most of us back then just had to wait in line while the checker would try over and over again to have the scanner read the problematic UPC correctly and then usually ended up typing the numbers in, etc.

    This was a new development at the time, and Bush was being polite as anyone would regarding someone demonstrating off new technology (a damaged/mangled UPC code being read with no problem even though scanners had been around for a long time).

    I think most of the information surrounding this story can be found on any reputable site and in a number of books including the original mis-leading photo.

  59. #59
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:38 am, DBNinKY said:

    After King tells her the average is $3.50, she mumbles “Oh, it’s down six cents.”

    I agree with #42, Pelosi has been caught and she knows it.

    And now that the GOP is finally taking her to task for making that too-fantastic-to-be-believed promise to bring down gas prices - and then proceeding to absolutely nothing to make it happen once elected - she’s worried that it is an issue which will play against her party in November.

  60. #60
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am, ThackerAgency said:

    I wonder if McCain is going to consider her out of touch. I’m sure he’ll get the opportunity to say ‘I’m going to propose a tax holiday so you’ll save 18 cents’. Of course it’s gone up 50 cents in the past month so the 18 cents won’t get very far.

    Our government is pathetic, but they keep telling us how much they will do for us to make us better.

  61. #61
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:40 am, Rev Wolf said:

    Oh stop whining will you. You’re just taking a whiff at the gas prices Europe and Canada has been paying for the last decade.

  62. #62
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am, ThackerAgency said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:33 am, xler8bmw

    I agree with what you say about the difference government makes on prices of gas. But the point is that Pelosi PROMISED SHE WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. The fact is she can’t and she lies about all the other things that she (or the government) can ‘do’ if they are elected. She may as well have promised everyone a BMW.

  63. #63
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am, hatelibs said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am,
    orlandocajun said:

    Bush isn’t anymore responsible for the prices increasing than she is able to lower them. It’s too bad that there are so many people in this country gullible enough to fall for political rhetoric.

    I agree with you about the American people being gullible enough to fall for the rhetoric. But far too many people are totally ignorant about economics in general. I have to disagree with you about Pelosi not being able to lower them. The Democraps have blocked every attempt to expand drilling off the coasts and Alaska, for example, that definitely could have helped prices. The Democraps pushed through the worthless exotic gas blends that strain refining capacity. And the Democraps are the first to add to the gas taxes which happen to be far more than the oil company profits per gallon.

    The bottom line it that Nancy’s party is totally responsible for this mess. I’m not say gas would be half of the current price but it would be a lot lower than it is.

  64. #64
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am, harbormaster said:

    Sorry I’m late to this party.
    After watching that snippet I have to wonder, did she have a handler off camera poking her with a stick to remind her to breathe?

  65. #65
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am, xler8bmw said:

    #61 I agree with you and that’s why I am saying the american public needs to smarten up about what the problem is with the gas companies it’s not Bush’s fault nor should the companies not make a profit either.

    If the idiots like pelosi spent their time really trying to do something in this country instaed of pointing fingers and lying to the public maybe something could get done.

    The dem party is dead and they know it. If they didn’t lie and give entitlements they would never get voted in office.

  66. #66
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:47 am, DirkBelig said:

    If a Republican doesn’t know the price of something down to the penny, they are bashed as being “out of touch” and too rich to understand the “little people” and their problems.

    If a Democrat is off by a dollar on the price of a commodity that’s on the front page of papers daily, it proves yet again that Republicans are “out of touch” and too rich to understand the “little people” and their problems.

    See how that works?

  67. #67
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:53 am, Radiopatriot said:

    It is SO time for this bunch to go, beginning with Miz Pelousy. We MUST support Bellavia, Hunter Jr., Allan West, Kieran Lawler, and all the Iraq war vets coming home to continue serving our country by running for Congress.

    It’s the only way we can fight back against these power-lust parasites and rid ourselves of them.

    If we all give $10 bucks to each of the Iraq War candidates it will be a huge help and could make the difference.

    Qwitcherbitchin’ and DO SOMETHING! Write a check. NOW!!! Let’s get these guys IN.

    Andrea Shea King
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  68. #68
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:54 am, hawkeye54 said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am, Trunk Monkey said:
    Maybe the Russians were right when they took over power…a massive purge to get rid of the idiots…

    Actually, the Communists got rid of the intelligent people in massive purges (i.e. those that could think for themselves and weren’t keen to worship communisim)…like our own progressives, the communists needed (and still need) idiots to keep themselves in power.

  69. #69
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:54 am, WisCon said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am, terristeelmagnolia said:
    I think the Botox has gotten into her brain.

    What brain?

  70. #70
    On April 25th, 2008 at 10:56 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Pelosi is surgically unable to blink! It’s a fact!

  71. #71
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:03 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    I am continually amazed that this stupid person is even in office let alone speaker of the house. I mean, she should have just taken the Leona Helmsley approach and TOLD THE TRUTH that only little people actually care about high gas prices - not rich liberal elitists.

    .. if I only had a brain.

  72. #72
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:08 am, nuss said:

    Pelosi doesn’t really give a damn about how much we the riffraff have to pay for fuel, so why would anyone expect her to know the price of gasoline? Don’t forget that when the democrats won the majority that made her house speaker she tried to commandeer an Airforce jumbo jet for her personal use (so she could spend millions of our dollars for her air travel)….sort of an Airforce 3. The reason given was that as speaker she needed mobility to do the governments work and still be able to visit her constituency in San Fran and to take her staff, family, friends, etc. along with her. Because all former speakers mangaged quite nicely without a personal Air Force jet on call 24/7, there must be another reason. I think the Old Trooper (#20) nailed it with his equation: Money + Ambition + Ego = Pelosi. The personal jet is an Ego manifestation.
    Politcalguano (#15) wrote “This woman is wrong about everything”… Possibly so, but I would put it in the words of the famous physicist, Wolfgang Pauli, who, after reading a colleague’s paper, sadly shook his head and said “he’s not even wrong”.

  73. #73
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am, FruNobulux said:

    So, the Dumbocrats big election-promise plan to cut gas prices amounted to zip. Oh well, now on to health care…

  74. #74
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:12 am, CrazyFool said:

    I don’t see Larry ‘pressing’ her. He simply asked her yet another soft question and allowed her to blame it all on Bush. As far as I can see she never does answer the question.

  75. #75
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am, Barry F. said:

    Watch her stammer, blink, and struggle to quickly pull a number out of her hat.

    I have no idea where she got the “$2.56 on average” figure.

    Maybe it was in her Bible.

    After King tells her the average is $3.50, she mumbles “Oh, it’s down six cents.”

    Huh?

    Liberal math.

    ***

    In San Francisco, fyi, the average gas price is $3.98/gallon.

    Wow! I guess that is some of that “fuzzy math“, huh? :lol:

  76. #76
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am, Barry F. said:

    Does her entire forehead move, when she blinks or is it just me?

  77. #77
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am, pdxleon said:

    Nancy, Nancy, Nancy
    How much fuel does your “Air Force Three” use? You know, the Tax-paid Jumbo Jet that you “deserve?”

    Do you ever wonder what life outside the bubble would be like?

  78. #78
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    She is unable to have normal thought. It is a Democrat elitest thing.

  79. #79
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, deepdriller said:

    The fact of the matter is, even if we were allowed to drill in ANWR & the coastal areas that are off limits now, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference as:

    1) One does not drill and complete a producing oil well overnight. It takes time & an incredible amount of money.

    2) Once you have a productive well, you have to connect it to a pipeline, which doesn’t miracle itself into existence overnight. It takes time & an incredible amount of money.

    3) Once you have a well & a pipeline, you have to process the crude & refine it. Unfortunately, all of our refineries are running at capacity. Therefore, in order to bring this new capacity to the consumer requires new refinery capacity, which in turn requires time & an incredible amount of money.

    Long story short…. there is no short term solution to high gas prices, PERIOD. “Commonsense” or otherwise.

  80. #80
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, franksalterego said:

    “…I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she misspoke…”
    orlandocajun, April 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Yes,

    This often happens, when someone tries to shift a two-speed transmission into third gear.

  81. #81
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am, Barry F. said:

    Unfortunately, I don’t know that there are any politicians in Washington D.C. that have any real feel for what the average price per gallon of fuel is running, because they don’t feel a direct impact by it.

    But, that doesn’t excuse Nancy Pelosi for thinking fuel is $2.56 per gallon, when it is averaging almost a dollar per gallon more than that right now.

    Heck, $2.56 is cheap, compared to now. So much for our vacation this summer. It might cost as much to travel as the hotel would.

  82. #82
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am, fulldroolcup said:

    Here’s a word that needs to be used more when talking about our current crop of Political Masters: Kakistocracy.

    It means:

    “Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.”

    IOW: “The Rule of the Worst”.

    And I’m pretty sure the root refers to that well-known term “kaka”.

    Or at least it should.

  83. #83
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am, xler8bmw said:

    If the dems had any sense at all about the gas problem they would explain to americans why! But, instead they waste more money on investigating free market companies. Which don’t only make profits from the US citizens. This is what they should be explaining:

    Their profits are based on a percentage…

    If gasoline is $1.00 gallon and your profit margin is 5% your profit
    dollar is $.05 for every gallon sold… A year later - Gasoline is
    $2.00 gallon… profit margin is still 5%… profit dollar in
    dollars is $.10. If a year later when gasoline is $3.00 gallon..
    and your profit margin is STILL 5% what do you think the profit in
    dollars is??? (Hint: 3 x .05) $.15/gallon… excellent…

    Now: Let’s say demand is 1 Billion gallons in a year…
    Year 1 = $50 Million in profit
    Year 2 = $100 Million in profit
    Year 3 = $150 Million in profit

    all at the SAME percentage of 5%…

    Now if you are complaining about the profit dollars going up…

    If you are doing the same job from year to year why would you ask for
    or accept a raise if you are doing the same job?

  84. #84
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:34 am, orlandocajun said:

    Hatelibs…I like the name.

    I’m not sure that domestic production would lower prices. There would still be a global market to set the price. One good thing about our conservation in domestic oil production is that we can consider it a strategic reserve. If ever there’s a global shortage, we may be the one’s with the supply. In other words, lets use up foreign oil and save ours. One day, that may pay huge dividends.

  85. #85
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:37 am, teresafromtejas said:

    Notice how she immediately brings up Bush. Can the Dems take responsibility for anything?

  86. #86
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:40 am, cpodug said:

    teresafromtejas said: Can the Dems take responsibility for anything?

    No, because in their perfect little world, they can do no wrong, therefore, they don’t need to take responsibility - it is assumed.

    As someone once said on another thread, “I wonder what color the sky is in their world?”

  87. #87
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:40 am, Wade said:

    Bush did not know the correct current price, therefore it is ok for Nancy to be wrong. Great logic…

  88. #88
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Concerned Citizen said:

    #83 xler8bmw,

    Say, that looks like math. Don’t we have a math professor around here somewhere?

    I go back to a statement I made on another thread. Wait for Obama to institute price controls or nationalize the oil industry and watch the people clamor for him to do the same for health care.

  89. #89
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:46 am, tropicalwave12 said:

    Just a thought and I would be interested in all replies… Is the U.S. anti-drilling policy making us more suceptible to an attack from a foreign country not affraid to drill here? Conspiracy theory maybe but when the oil gets low in other parts of the world then what???

  90. #90
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am, Katycue said:

    After he says $3.50, I guess she is trying to act like she had said $3.56 instead of $2.56, thus “down 6 cents”…?

  91. #91
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:47 am, xler8bmw said:

    #87 and when Bush made the mistake every left wing loon jumped on the bandwagon. What goes around comes around!

  92. #92
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:53 am, xler8bmw said:

    #88 if obama gets in expect gas lines again like carter. As a matter of fact he’s going to be worse!

  93. #93
    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am, Concerned Citizen said:

    #92,

    You know if he didn’t manage to nationalize, he’d use the strategic reserves to drop the price. He needs public support to get his socialist agenda passed. That’s why regaining Congress and putting McCain (noseplugs in place) in office are so important.

    Nowhere in the world has the socialist/communist/Marxist experiment actually worked. You’d think they’d have figured that out by now.

  94. #94
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #93 I hear ya on that but, out of the 3 losers McCain’s it!

  95. #95
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, lgm said:

    hatelibs said (#63):

    Bush isn’t anymore responsible for the prices increasing than she is able to lower them.

    Not so. Bush did things that have raised the price of gas.

    1. Invaded Iraq creating chaos in a major oil producing country. Iraqi oil production is below Saddam levels. This contributes to the oil shortage that raises gas prices.

    2. Invaded Iraq creating instability in the middle east that drives up oil prices.

    3. Invaded Iraq, causing even more massive deficit spending that drives down the dollar and increases the price of oil for us.

    4. Obstructed car fuel efficiency regulations that would have reduced our demand for gas.

    5. Stalled general conservation efforts.

  96. #96
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, lgm said:

    Wade said (#87):

    Bush did not know the correct current price, therefore it is ok for Nancy to be wrong. Great logic…

    The logic is that those who criticize Pelosi but not Bush are hypocrites. It’s like criticizing Democrats for pork spending or obstructionism in the Senate. Democrats are guilty but Republicans are more guilty.

  97. #97
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    These people, just not Nanny do not live in the world we do, most of them I think I can safely say do not know the price of gallon of gas or even what gallon of milk or a loaf of bread costs, they are driven around in limos and some one else does their shopping for them. They really should get out in the real world more often.

  98. #98
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, gollumclone said:

    So let’s divert more corn to production of ethanol and make food supplies even more scarce and higher priced. Continue buying those image-conscious SUVs that you truly need. I don’t think many people where I live who have Hummers or Navigators are too concerned about gasoline prices. Maybe some stiffs who must commute long distances are hurting. Maybe the doubling in price of natural gas will wreak havoc on budgets of those who heat with it. The buzz is we may see oil doubling again in next four years. Regardless of whatever the price is it doesn’t faze that Nobel Prize laureate whose Tenn. home squanders an amount of energy equal to 21 normal sized homes nor slow down his need to flit about in small jets to champion the AGW cause, oops, I mean “climate change”.
    Most of us are on board with the need to cripple our economic system in interest of “fairness” to the Euroweenies and 3rd world? That’s why the goracle wants a massive ad campaign to push his consensus BS down our throats. Media won’t dare ask him about falling temps since ‘98. Elites like Obamas, Wright, Edwards, Teddy fatboy K, Ayers et all are not hurting at all in any economic sense, but are down with screwing over the rest of us as they further feather their own nests and push for Marxism.
    Wind power? Not in my neighborhood shrieks Kennedy. Don’t want to spoil his view or sailing pleasures. ANWR? The mooses, mooses. And now I am beseeched about the plight of all the poor Polar bears drowing because the glaciers are melting precipitously. Nuclear power? Remember 3 Mile Island and Hanoi Jane’s China Syndrome. Even if France is fine with deriving most all electric from nuke plants.
    Methinks many of us will take a big screwing soon enough as the gummint works to be “fair” and pulls a Chavez. How many of you recall Nobel Prize laureate Carter’s stagflation term as POTUS? Give hope! and change! a chance? Say it ain’t so…

  99. #99
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Geez, why do you force me get the spray out lgm

  100. #100
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, xler8bmw said:

    LGM get a clue please!

  101. #101
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, cpodug said:

    OT a little(or maybe not) - Y’know, my daughter-in-law once hooked a seagull. The gull swooped in before she could get her bait into the water. It was quite a struggle to get that hook out of the bird.

    Don’t leave your baited hooks where the gulls can swoop in and grab them.

    … just saying …

  102. #102
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, mattm said:

    Can I get soem of that mythical $2.56/gal gas. Last time I got gas i payed 3.49. Oh, what WE pay for her gas, I forgot.

  103. #103
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, tbbass said:

    Would someone please explain to me what the federal government does that justifies adding 18.4 cpg tax to every gallon of gas sold?

  104. #104
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    AHHHHH

    lgm,

    You forgot to blame Bush for global warming - idiot.

  105. #105
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, DesertLover said:

    Although it wouldn’t solve the total problem I have a suggestion to at least stabilize some of the fluctuation of gas prices … in addition to the obvious point of drilling for more here at home …

    We need to have a SINGLE FORMULA FOR GASOLINE nation-wide … no exceptions … one gasoline blend that is sold everywhere …

    Right now many refineries are shut down to get ready to reformulate to produce the summer blends that all the different states require …

    Each time they have to retool in order to produce a different blend they have to shut down production and flush the entire refinery system (pipes, etc.) before they can start making the next blend …

    This causes a temporary shortage of gasoline while they retool the refinery production equipment … and this happens multiple times during the year …

    They currently have to produce over 100 different formulations of gasoline … they have to produce all of these because of the many different air quality standards they have to meet from state to state …

    If they only had to make one blend nationally the overall costs of production would be reduced and the temporary shortages associated with the refinery shutdowns would be eliminated …

  106. #106
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, libocrat said:

    Can someone list Nancy Pelosi’s accomplishments?

    Besides plastic surgery.

  107. #107
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, libocrat said:

    Can someone list Nancy Pelosi’s accomplishments?

    Besides plastic surgery.

    To be an “accomplishment”, doesn’t it have to be something reasonably successful? If so, that leaves her cosmetic alterations out. ;-)

  108. #108
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, Rorschach said:
  109. #109
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, BrianNY said:

    #83 xler8bmw said:

    Their profits are based on a percentage…

    Very true. This same correlation is why oil company’s profits were in the gutter when oil prices dropped to historical lows in the 1980s.

    And I didn’t hear Bill O’Reilly types crying about “price-fixing” or “evil oil” on the downside.

  110. #110
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #109 I have to agree with you I like BO but, he hasn’t a clue about the oil companies. He even suggested that the feds get involved! NEWS FLASH BILL they can’t do anything unless they do what Chavez did and take over.

  111. #111
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, Barry F. said:

    That’s all we need - the Feds taking charge of oil and gas.

    They could screw it up like so much other stuff. I can count everything that the government is good at doing on one hand and still have the vast majority of those fingers left over.

  112. #112
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The last time Pelosi bought gas, was when Trent Lott bought her lunch.

  113. #113
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    To be fair, it’s $2.56 at the Esso station near her house. Oh no, sorry, that was 1973.

  114. #114
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:13 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    After King tells her the average is $3.50, she mumbles “Oh, it’s down six cents.”

    Huh?

    Liberal math.

    I believe lgm is a math teacher…

  115. #115
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Uplander said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 11:46 am, tropicalwave12 said:

    Just a thought and I would be interested in all replies… Is the U.S. anti-drilling policy making us more susceptible to an attack from a foreign country not afraid to drill here? Conspiracy theory maybe but when the oil gets low in other parts of the world then what???

    Unconfirmed: China is drilling in Cuban waters, in the Gulf of Mexico where we can’t drill. 45 miles from Key West, Florida.
    With Cuban permission.

  116. #116
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    I believe lgm is a math teacher…

    and a scientist
    and a Christian
    and a Jew
    and the moral authority
    and the all knowing Oz
    and leader of the world
    and…

  117. #117
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, Barry F. said:
    On April 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, libocrat said:

    Can someone list Nancy Pelosi’s accomplishments?

    Besides plastic surgery.
    To be an “accomplishment”, doesn’t it have to be something reasonably successful? If so, that leaves her cosmetic alterations out.

    Doesn’t “accomplishment” also imply something you’ve done yourself, not someone else? Is this to say the plastic surgery was self-done?

    Come to think of it, the way it looks….oh, never mind.

  118. #118
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, right_on said:

    Bush also didn’t know the price of gas when asked last week.

    The logic is that those who criticize Pelosi but not Bush are hypocrites. It’s like criticizing Democrats for pork spending or obstructionism in the Senate. Democrats are guilty but Republicans are more guilty.

    Like I said several days ago, “Token” contributes the whiney, pointy-finger used by the bleeding-hearts in every political disscussion…”Oh yeah, but ’so-and-so’ does it, too!”

    Thank you for your insight to the obvious! And now, we can add a new adjective to your contributions…deflection.

  119. #119
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, corona said:

    Yo, Nancy!

    Check out this site - no $2.56 gas in sight!

  120. #120
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, right_on said:

    I believe lgm is a math teacher…

    Yes, but you forgot about VP Dan Quayle (R) misspelling the plural of tomato, or GW not knowing the names of foreign leaders when he was first running for POTUS. lgm will certainly point that out, and put us in our place! No?

  121. #121
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    deepdriller said:

    The fact of the matter is, even if we were allowed to drill in ANWR & the coastal areas that are off limits now, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference as:

    1) One does not drill and complete a producing oil well overnight. It takes time & an incredible amount of money.

    Oh really? And the FUTURES price of oil would go which way the day after Congress indicated some sanity to start drilling for our OWN oil instead of propping up 3rd world commie dictators and protectors of wahabism?

    2) Once you have a productive well, you have to connect it to a pipeline, which doesn’t miracle itself into existence overnight. It takes time & an incredible amount of money.

    By that logic then nobody should have drilled a first one. Got capitalism?

    3) Once you have a well & a pipeline, you have to process the crude & refine it. Unfortunately, all of our refineries are running at capacity. Therefore, in order to bring this new capacity to the consumer requires new refinery capacity, which in turn requires time & an incredible amount of money.

    It is environmental whack jobs who artificially limit our gasoline refining capacity. Show me the list of people not willing to INVEST in it if only they could? As to how much it costs, they seem ready willing and able to do that. Ever consider the cost of rationing gasoline like back in the 70’s? I waited in those lines son…

    Long story short…. there is no short term solution to high gas prices, PERIOD. “Commonsense” or otherwise.

    Yes, indeed you have that right because of the LONG TERM lack of common sense and long term nonsense about AGW etc; yes, the solution also gets longer day by day as liberals and RINOS control energy policy.

  122. #122
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, hatelibs said:

    For those who keep claiming that it doesn’t matter if we tap the oil reserves we have in Alaska and off the coastlines because it is expensive and would take a long time to actually make a difference……IF WE HAD STARTED YEARS AGO WE WOULD HAVE THE OIL FLOWING BY NOW!!!!!!

    Also, you watch how companies stampede to buy the rights to those oil reserves!
    Come on. It is better to have the supplies under OUR control rather than Iran, Venezuela, or Russia. How about the new jobs??? Yes, we need additional refining capacity and to eliminate the exotic blending that forces shut downs of the current refineries.

    START DRILLING NOW!

  123. #123
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, hatelibs said:

    # 121 Danceswithdachshunds

    Well said!

    Also imagine China and India buying oil from the US….can we say reduction in Trade Deficit?

  124. #124
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, right_on said:

    Unfortunately, all of our refineries are running at capacity.

    This statement brings up a good point, I think. When a company want to prevent it’s delivery drivers from speeding, some have installed “governors” that will inhibit acceleration above a certain rpm.

    Is it possible that refining capacity has been limited by the use of “governors” in order to maintain a lower than nominal output, thereby creating demand? I can’t believe that as a company grows, and profits increase, that not even additions to existing refineries have not been considered.

  125. #125
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Yes indeed. And consider if corn ethanol was scrapped we’d have 50% more corn to sell to them in place of the rice they are missing.

  126. #126
    On April 25th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    right_on

    I can’t believe that as a company grows, and profits increase, that not even additions to existing refineries have not been considered.

    Profits attract investment. They WANT to build new refineries and expand existing ones but are blocked by whacko laws. Many new refinery building permits are pending right now; some are over 7 years old! How long would you want your investment money held up by liberals before you just say “screw it” and invest in FOREIGN oil and gasoline ventures?

  127. #127
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, jenmom said:

    My husband has worked for the oil industry for 10 years. My parents love to try and tell me that its big oil company profits that are creating high gas prices.

    But profits are part of capitalism. 10 years ago when my husband started working, lay offs were everywhere in the oil industry and a barrel of oil was around $15-$20. No one seemed to complain when the oil companies were hurting.

    What a difference 10 yrs makes! But with whacky environmental regulations, restrictions on drilling in the US, too many different types of gasoline needed for different states, limited refineries, the war in Iraq (the military uses as lot of oil and gas, increased demand of oil from countries like China and India - you are going to see higher prices at the pump.

    The govt needs to do all it can to support our own companies - not belly ache about their profits.

    And stop whining about the environment!Get over that hurdle and stop all the BS regulationand we can see prices go down. There is no other alternative source for energy. Using food for fuel is plain stupid.

  128. #128
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, cpodug said:

    Using food for fuel is plain stupid.

    But … but … but … we were told that using corn to produce ethanol wouldn’t reduce the available food supplies … do you mean we were LIED to? Oh, the shock, the horror of it all!

    /sarc

  129. #129
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, lgm said:

    hatelibs said (#122):

    For those who keep claiming that it doesn’t matter if we tap the oil reserves we have in Alaska and off the coastlines because it is expensive and would take a long time to actually make a difference……IF WE HAD STARTED YEARS AGO WE WOULD HAVE THE OIL FLOWING BY NOW!!!!!!

    The real reason is that there isn’t all that much oil there. It would be worth it to drill there, but it would not lower the price of gas much.

  130. #130
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, rightisright said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Gothguy said:
    How on earth does she keep getting re-elected?

    Look who her constituents are and your surprised?

    No doubt she is one out of touch woman, she has no idea the price of gas, bread or milk or anything in regards to daily living…stupid byotch.
    That’s the type of people that make laws in this country? No wonder we’re headed in a downward spiral.

  131. #131
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, cpodug said:

    The real reason is that there isn’t all that much oil there.

    Swoop and poop again, huh? If you bothered to do your homework, and were honest, you might have found this.

    Sorry, folks, I couldn’t help myself. Mea culpa.

  132. #132
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, rooster said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, lgm said:
    The real reason is that there isn’t all that much oil there. It would be worth it to drill there, but it would not lower the price of gas much.

    Great! A professor in the film and music appreciation department hath decreed, it ain’t enough for us drill.

    Thank you professor Warner Brothers.

  133. #133
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, rightisright said:

    cpodug, not to worry, he’s a typical liberal troll as you know. They(being trolls) spout crap and bs to get under our skin…not the best way of convincing a theory is right or wrong, but does get an emotional response.

  134. #134
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, cpodug said:

    Yeah, I know that, rir, we’ve all had our share of trying to pound some sense into him, but there seems to be a short circuit somewhere between his ears. He certainly fits the description of a seagull, though - swoops in, poops all over, swoops out.

  135. #135
    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    cpo,

    I used to ignore him. Nobody else seemed to so I just join in and have some fun. Besides, when we shoot him down, sometimes we release some useful info for others. Mainly, how to slap down a troll and expose his/her weak spot - his/her brain.

    P.S. lgm gave me an award today. I am racking them up. I put it on the shelf with “Michelle’s #1 groupie”!!!!

  136. #136
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, cpodug said:

    Congratulations, Soap - something to cherish forever!

  137. #137
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, tarpon said:

    Bush must have made her say that she would bring the price of gas down, which is now up 75% over when the Democrats took over Congress.

    The way she genuflects to Bush. BDS has really got her by the throat. I wonder if peoiple are stupid enough to buy that?

    So why has food sky-rocketed?

  138. #138
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    lgm said:

    The real reason is that there isn’t all that much oil there.

    To which cpodug said:

    Swoop and poop again, huh? If you bothered to do your homework, and were honest, you might have found this.

    Ok, I think I have what is both a sensible bi-partisan solution AND new territory for the Atkins diet: CARIBOU-BURGERS!

    There’s plenty of room for God’s creatures .. right next to the mashed potatoes!

  139. #139
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, cpodug said:

    The real reason is that there isn’t all that much oil there.

    Swoop and poop again, huh? If you bothered to do your homework, and were honest, you might have found this.

    Sorry, folks, I couldn’t help myself. Mea culpa.

    Facts are of little use to lgm, cpodug. ;-)

  140. #140
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, jenmom said:

    lgm stated there isn’t much oil there. But I don’t think anyone really knows how much is there.

    New technologies in oil and natural gas exploration and drilling have allowed companies to find and retrieve oil and has in places they never would have been able to 20 years ago.

    My husband works in one of the largest natural gas reserves in the US. Most companies 10 years ago sold their rights to this natural gas field because they didn’t think much was there. Boy were they wrong! The natural gas is seriously flowing now.

  141. #141
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, jenmom said:

    Ok, so I don’t sound like too much of an idiot….I said natural gas is “flowing”. It can’t actually “flow” like a liquid would since it is a gas. But I could not come up with a better word.

    I keep coming into the office and commenting as I try and get my house cleaned up for company tonight. You’d think it would not be too hard to switch gears from typing to cleaning toilets! :)

  142. #142
    On April 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, cpodug said:

    Jenmom - I was always told that women were fully capable of multi-tasking, a skill which I have never mastered. I am shocked!

  143. #143
    On April 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, lgm said:

    OK you have a wingnut article with no sourcing saying ANWR will solve our energy needs forever. I have a main stream sourced (to the US government) study that says the opposite:

    Opening an Alaska wildlife refuge to oil development would only slightly reduce America’s dependence on imports and would lower oil prices by less than 50 cents a barrel, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Energy Department.

  144. #144
    On April 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, deepdriller said:

    danceswithdachshunds (#121), you are absolutely correct on every one of your points. My point, though, was that the sheeple see ANWR, etc as a magical panacea that will instantly lower prices at the pump. They consider oil industry profits as excessive, and buy into the propaganda that is spewed forth by politicians & the MSM. We’ve shot ourselves in the foot by limiting where we can drill & relying on antiquated transport & refining systems. It’s going to take time, money & more reliance on industry (not government) commonsense to fix the problem, something that Madam Speaker & her ilk don’t seem to understand.