NC GOP not caving in: How Republicans should act; McCain attacks NC GOP as “out of touch with reality”
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Despite what you may have read or heard, the North Carolina GOP is not pulling its anti-Jeremiah Wright ad.
The conservatives there are not caving in to John McCain’s demands.
Or the RNC’s.
Or Barack Obama’s.
NC GOP officials still plan to run the ad. State GOP chairwoman Linda Daves says there’s nothing McCain could say to change her mind: “I’m going to run the ad.”
They are not caving in to the self-appointed civility brigade in either party who have deemed in beyond the bounds to call attention to Jeremiah Wright’s bile, question Obama’s judgment about his longtime spiritual mentor, and challenge those who support him.
NC blogger Katy Benningfield reprints an apology and clarification from state Rep. David Lewis, North Carolina National Committeeman for the RNC, which she received from him yesterday:
Katy,
I made a mistake this morning in responding to a concerned Republican. In fact, I responded before I even saw the ad. I had seen some news coverage of the ad on WRAL but hadn’t seen the whole thing.
I contacted Chris McClure at State Party Headquarters and misunderstood what he told me about the ad. I did not, as I should have, check with Chairman Daves.
I tried too quickly to respond to an email without looking into all the facts.
Chairman Daves has made me aware that the Party will continue running the ad.
I am deeply sorry to have put out incorrect information.
The truth is I have been working on a fund raising event with Vice President Cheney and have not been actively involved with this particular media effort.
I want to do a good job in responding quickly to emails and phone calls and sometimes I am a little too quick.
This miscommunication is absolutely my fault and was not intentional.
I sincerely apologize to everyone who has been inconvenienced by my foul up and am going to try to put out a press release later today to clarify my mistake and that I was not authorized to speak for the Party.
Thanks.
Sounds like the RNC needs people on board who are less panicky, less sloppy, and paying more attention to their own backyard.
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NC GOP chairwoman Linda Daves takes on NPR’s Melissa Block.
Responding to Block’s question about whether the ad is “offensive,” Daves says plainly: “I don’t know why they’re calling it offensive. I call it truthful.”
There’s nothing that McCain could tell you to change your mind about the ad?
Daves: “That is correct. I’m going to run the ad.”
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Once again, here’s the ad that the hapless Lewis distanced himself from before even watching it:
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Update 9:13am Eastern. McCain attacks the NC GOP as “out of touch with reality.”
Has he ever attacked Jeremiah Wright this way?
No.
Never.
That is the McCain way.
Who is out of touch with reality? Pot meet kettle.
Republican U.S. presidential candidate John McCain accused North Carolina’s Republican Party of being “out of touch with reality” over its refusal to pull an advertisement criticizing Democrat Barack Obama.
In an NBC interview aired on Friday, the Arizona senator said he has done all he can to persuade the state party to cancel the television ad that criticizes Obama as “too extreme” because of controversial remarks made by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
“They’re not listening to me because they’re out of touch with reality and the Republican Party. We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and this kind of campaigning is unacceptable,” McCain told NBC’s “Today” Show.
“I’ve done everything that I can to repudiate and to see that this kind of campaigning does not continue,” he added.
Asked if the state party’s unwillingness to heed his call raised questions about his leadership, McCain replied: “I don’t know exactly how to respond to that.”
As I pointed out last week, Obama isn’t the only snob in the race.
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Update: Mark Levin’s interview with Linda Daves is here.
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#94 nyc123me wrote:
I might say the same to you. In fact, I’ll just say it: nyc123me, can you possibly get your head stuck any further up your butt?
wow that’s real smart.
nyk, I am curious. What is your opinion of Reverend Wright?
Actually, I lived in Spain for 6 months but I didn’t see anything glorious about socialism in action. I did see a lot of heroin addicts in the slums of Madrid, along with lots of crime and unemployment. Where is your proof that health care is easily available? Hey, you were asserting that Hill and Obummer aren’t socialists… this is where we headin.’
If you’re going to judge the civil rights history of an ENTIRE POLITICAL PARTY on one blog, then your judgement is way past wacked. I don’t particularly think you even have the qualifications to judge who you think is racist, given your tolerance for “liberal political protests,” like Wrights.’ Got it?
Well, you seem to think you know it all, nyk, about conservatives based on, what, one blog? Believe me, it wasn’t a term of endearment…
Methinks you’re not seeing some of the deeper, social implications of liberal race relations over the past 40 years. Methinks you’ve never been to a public school lately to see what many kids, including minority kids, get away with in terms of disrespect.
Nyk, if you’re an authority on race, racism, or race relations, then I’m the Dalai Lama.
#98 Bob1234 wrote:
I don’t think he hates America, or hates white people (I’m not stating this to start a fight. I know pretty much everyone here disagrees with me on this, and frankly, we’ll never convince each other, so let’s not bother fighting about it). But my opinion on him is complex — I can’t reduce it to a sentence, as people often do here. If your question is sincere, I’m fine with going into it, but it would be a very long-winded explanation of all my thoughts. But I’ll start by saying I don’t think it’s completely black and white (no pun intended. Really.)
I find Rev. Wright’s comments reprehensible and, in fact, racist as well; I am anti-racist. Oh, I confront comments where ever and whenever they appear that are racist… but I challenge blacks as well. Now, do you wish to opine?
I forgot… I’m white…. so according to your definition of posters here,it doesn’t matter what I do, does it, nyk? You have your glasses on as much as any other individual. You aren’t as egalitarian or perfect as you seem to present yourself.
The “racist” complaints about this ad serves as a warning to everyone who dares to complain about Obama that they will be labeled a “racist”! The drive-by media is sending a warning to all campaigners in the coming general election, “tell the truth about Obama, and we’ll scream racist from the highest rooftop”!
Kudos to Ms. Daves.
wow.. look at this article on BBC atm re the Sean Bell shooting.
The very first line: “Sean Bell, 23, who was black, was shot as..”
The race of the three police officers is never mentioned until the very last line, all on its own; “Two of the acquitted officers were black.”
..I don’t think I need to say any more.
nyk, for what it’s worth, I don’t care that Obama is of mixed heritage, Wright is African American, Clinton is ..well whatever species she is ..ethnicity should have nothing to do with politics – actions, however, should.
#99 emjem24 wrote:
I don’t know if you’re slow or what, but I’m going to try this one more time, and then I’m done. I am not letting this blog define Republicanism, or even conservatism. My intial post was about a very specific group: people who are most upset about Jeremiah Wright’s comments who post on this site.
Done.
#103 MNUSMCDavid wrote:
No, I don’t. Because you’re not in the group I’m talking about, are you?
(And good for you!)
Wrong. You’re completely changing what I said. Read my post(s). Don’t change my meaning. I was very specific.
#101 emjem24 wrote:
Um…I never stated anything within a MILE of this.
I’m just another person posting my thoughts on a blog. Just like you.
Here is the bottom line nyk. Obama is selling himself as a uniter when he is in actuallity a divider (as most all libs). He can not dis own Wright because he is one and the same.
Talk about ethnic arrogance. I have two, well-educated black men, one a Temple University “Urban Studies” professor, to share your black rage with.
If you’ve done plenty, then why are you so full of ignorant vitriole, hate, stereotypes, and smug arrogance?
Oh, and BTW, you’re an American, and that’s it. You, like many other blacks and the federal government, seem to define who you are by your race. Just like you’re judging people on this blog because they won’t buy into “black victimization.” Do you believe that every day should be Martin Luther King day too?
Why is it, that many liberal blacks look at whites, especially those they disagree with because of their political beliefs, as something wanting? Are you prejudging, discriminating, what?
Would you call people like Michael Steele blood traitors because they are black Republicans?
#109 sambo wrote:
Let’s agree to disagree on this, shall we? Because I really believe our perspectives on this are so vastly far apart I could never make you see where I’m coming from, and vice versa. And that has nothing to do with race — it’s just how we each see the world. And frankly, we’re both entitled to our opinions, and our votes.
” But my opinion on him is complex”
that would be code for “i actually agree with at least part of what this race-baiting loon thinks but want to hide it”
oh, and your earlier claim about shillery and b.o. not being socialists?
funniest.post.o’.the.month.
#110 emejem 24 wrote:
Sigh.
You are incredibly off topic and frankly, you clearly don’t get anything I’m saying. Let’s just end here.
hmm.. this is getting kinda ugly..
I doubt anyone on this blog was really going to vote for Obama anyway, with the exception of me and a few others.
McCain is simply attempting to make as broad an appeal as possible to independent voters across the nation, by inoculating himself from ads that Democrats are sure to link to him once they finally have their nominee.
If McCain feels it is in his best interest, I don’t begrudge him the desire to follow this tactic of denouncing the ad – as long as the NC GOP doesn’t capitulate.
#112 Buckaroo wrote:
No, it’s “code” for “it’s complex.” Unlike you, I can’t reduce my thoughts to a sentence.
Do you really understand socialism? Sometimes I really have to wonder, because the idea of applying that word to people who are so clearly capitalist just strikes me as just…out there.
nyk said:
Fair enough, sir (or madam). Frankly, I fail to see the complexities inherent in analyzing, “God D— America,” but then, as you say, we’ll never convince each other, and I thank you for your opinion.
#118 Bob1234 wrote:
And I think you for your civility.
I meant “thank.” Sorry.
My preview pane isn’t working…
emjem24 said:
Oh, and BTW, you’re an American, and that’s it. You, like many other blacks and the federal government, seem to define who you are by your race.
Wow. Are these kind of blanket generalizations really necessary? Yes, being black has shaped how I view myself and my role in society, but that is my right. Are women not allowed to have a different view of the world than men?
Incredible…out of touch with reality??? What reality is he referring to? The one where he thinks the NC GOP cares what he thinks? They know he’s pandering to the Left, just like he always does, and I applaud Daves for taking a stand. She is exactly right…this is an ad for NC and against two state Dem candidates. What the hell does McCain have to do with that? Who does he think he is for trying to tell them what ads they can run? Lord…can we redo the GOP primaries, by any chance? Who’s with me?
Your assertion that any of us who are upset over Wright are racists is intelectually dishonest and you know it. If you think that’s racism, I’ll wear it proudly. At least I don’t have to defend why the hell I was one of those congregants sitting there listening to that bs.
Dude, you’re calling me slow… you can’t keep the personal attack out of it can you?
No, I think you see conservatives (and I’m not just talking one shade) in one light based on your race and liberal viewpoint.
Actually, since to you I’m a “typical white person” I’m not at all surprised you’re defending Wright. When it’s all about slavery times and vicimization, it’s a racket that blacks and their liberal enablers, will use to wrench as much guilt and empathy out of this nation as is humanly possible.
Listen to his words… did he need to say them? Wright has asserted that he felt he needed to. Being that I was also a “typical white person” in high school, I had a black best friend who told me one day when we were discussing civil rights history, “you (me) wouldn’t understand because you’re white.”
So you see, us “typical white folks,” including the ones who also have ethnicities such as African, Native, Latino American blood running in our veins just wouldn’t understand the “wisdom” that is you, Obummer, and Wright.
nyk said:
Why didn’t I respond to a wild assertion presented without evidence? Because I am not concerned if people call me a racist or whatever, for God knows the truth.
Perhaps if I had attended a racist church for 20 years, I would feel the need to defend myself by presenting a long speech on race in America, but I don’t.
Sorry, I know the above was addressed to nyk.
Are you kidding? Each one wants more government, more programs, and bigger government. Each candidate wants to spend a trillion more dollars on new programs. They want the government to impact and decide more and more what we do with our lives. Except for their own wealth, they favor redistribution through taxation, windfall profits taxes, more business regulations, and social program.
Its called socialism. Could you define how these two Democratic candidates are capitalists?
I’d be happy if you’d enlighten me.
Tolerance for thee, but not for me, eh?
Well, now that I know you’re black (not sure yet whether or not you qualify as an African-American. Were you born in Africa?), maybe I too can make one of the sweeping generalities that you have sprinkled liberally (heh!) throughout these comments and just chalk it up to the fact that you’re a racist.
Actually, I’m saying a certain segment of the population blames the federal government, and even other people for their predicament in life. Everybody is shaped by not only their race, but their socioeconomic background. My problem is when people let that become the overarching definition of who they are and how they approach life.
Why, when we fill out any kind of Census or college/job application forms, do we have to identify ourselves by our race? I’m more than white, yet that’s the only square I can check off. I can’t check off the, Native American, English, Dutch, Irish, multiracial box, now can I?
Everybody has a different world view so if I indicated otherwise that wasn’t my intention. However, there are many bandying the term “racism” at the same time it’s being misapplied and that worries me.
I thought we’d move beyond race as a definer in our society. I thought America had come to a point where it was color blind. Yet, I have people like Obummer and Wright pointing out otherwise, reminding me that I should feel guilt over something.
Why does this need to continue? Why? Does defining everything by race really solve our problems, or does it make people more “racially sensitive” and better than those who judge others based on their talent and promise. I just don’t understand this.
I just went to McCain’s website and let him know how I feel, and followed that up with a donation to the NCGOP. I encourage everyone to do the same. We can’t just sit here and complain to each other. If the NCGOP gets a bunch of donations from telling the truth, then maybe others will see the light. And money is a very shiny light to politicians!
McCain has abandoned the NC Republican Party because he really isn’t a Republican. He is, truly, the Republican the Democrats have always loved because he’s so much like them. I have been trying to figure out what to do on election day. I don’t know how I can vote for this man! On one hand, he is better than Obama and Hillary, but on the other hand he isn’t “better” enough. Do I just not vote for president and hope the party loses (and with all the Congressional seats up for grab this year, it could be huge)? Does it need to go up in flames? Is that the only way to get the GOP back to its roots? Does it need to be reborn from the ashes?
#123 emjem24 wrote:
I didn’t say that. I said the people who seem the MOST upset here are also those I suspect of not adhering an anti-racist philosophy in their own lives.
Um…okay.
I can’t stop you from guessing what I think.
1) “Typical white person?” Where did I write that? Really. Point it out.
2) Where did I defend Wright? Again — QUOTE me.
Whatever.
Again, I have no idea what this has to do with where we started here…
Your words, not mine…
Um…Sure. As you like it.
I don’t mean to be rude (and I’m sorry I called you “slow” earlier. It was inappropriate and I genuinely apologize), but this is the last post of yours I’m going to respond to. You’ve gone competely off the rails, fabricating points I’ve (never) made and generally veering wildly off topic. So, again, let’s just…end here, k?
#127 Member-VRWC wrote:
Of course you do.
I will tell you what…NC has some strong women in politics (I’m a Sue Myric fan also). Go Daves!
“Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.”
“We’re gonna take away from those who made all those profits and give them to others” — shillery
/whatevs
emjem24:
I appreciate your clarification. As for America becoming a color-blind nation, I have my doubts about whether or not that will ever happen anytime soon, simply because I can’t think of any country on this planet that does not parse its citizens by race, tribe, color, clan, etc. The US has come a lot further in 40 years than any other country in history, and for that, I am grateful.
I agree that socioeconomic status has a lot to do with helping to dull the edges, so to speak, of race and class. I know that coming from a middle class upbringing in CT, my view of race is a lot less absolute, but I will speak only for myself on this board. I think that Obama has stumbled in his presentation of race as less of a factor, but that is not entirely his fault. Rev. Wright does not help matters, and his interview last night makes me think that Obama would have been better off disowning him, because if Wright were a friend, he would have laid low and not tried to explain himself to the press. There are some black people that are only voting for him because he is black, just as there are people who will never vote for him because he is black. I like to think that the vast majority of people fall somewhere in between.
emjem24
That’s because liberals must separate people by class and race. Being divisive is their bread and butter play. Pitting us against one another is how they keep their power. And when their divisiveness through policy causes more problems, they blame capitalism. Just look at oil prices when because of regs we can’t drill here and we can’t drill there. Can’t mine for more coal. No! Can’t build more nuclear plants or refineries. No! But we can turn food into fuel and cause food shortages and higher worldwide prices. Sure!
Like your style emjem24. It’s the rare teacher that is conservative. Seems that the majority are moonbats today.
So much for racial dialogue. If you’re going to summarize my statement like that in an incredibly disrespectful, demeaning way, then I have nothing more to say.
I’m sorry, nyk and luckybrand, but the way you’re using race as a cudgel against opposition to Obummer is really saddening. How is this helpful?
Again, nyk, what you did to my #110 post was really disgraceful. I don’t think you get my perspective nor did you ever want to. You think it’s about you. No, it’s about politics. I’m simply pointing out the way certain members of minority groups play the race card.
No, I don’t expect you and I to agree on much when you can’t even discuss Obummer or Wright in a thoughtful, open manner. This indicates an inherent cynical view that you have about those you oppose and this blog.
Yes nyk, I do understand socialism. I also understand the difference between capitalists and socialists.
You’re right. In their PRIVATE LIVES, both HRC and BHO are capitalists. They know what made them their fortunes and they are glad of it.
However, in their political lives, they are both very much socialists. Look at the policies they propose and look at the statements they have made. Both advocate “socialized medicine” (you can call it what you wish, but a pig’s ear is still a pig’s ear). HRC has talked about “taking” profits from the oil companies and “redistributing” them to those “less fortunate”. BHO has talked about the need to tax people with high incomes at confiscatory rates and “redistributing” that money to those who weren’t “fortunate enough to win life’s lottery”.
nyk, any way you cut it, those are socialist stances. And those are policies they want to put in place – not for themselves, God forbid, but for the rest of us poor peons who aren’t smart enough to take care of ourselves.
If you want to insist on pushing your false pretense that those two aren’t socialists, then there really isn’t any need to pursue discussion with you. I’ll just call you a simple-minded troll and bid you good day.
emjem24
When did I use race as a cudgel, to quote you? Am I incorrect in my statement that a lot of people on this blog weren’t going to vote for Obama? This blog is conservative, so I did not expect to find Obama supporters here, and I am not here to change your mind.
governmentdrone
well said … for these extreme liberals it is always …
Capitalism for me …
Socialism for thee …
#129:
Yeah, I sent the McCain campaign an email yesterday expressing my disappointment…I haven’t gotten a response, but since I said I was a conservative I doubt they care what I say, since I’m not in his targeted demographic anyway. Then, I followed that up with a donation to the NC GOP…money well-spent.
#130:
That is exactly what many of us are struggling with. As of today I am inclined not to support him, and every time he opens his mouth I am more comfortable with that decision. The fact is he is more critical of this GOP ad then he is of anything the Left has done, said, or wants to do. Is he better than Obama or Hillary? Probably, but not by much…
I wrote the NC GOP this morning to “Thank” them for not caving to the Elites Dog & Pony show . The Truth shall set you Free
Did Jesus Obama ask Jeremiah “the bull frog” Wright to stop his OFFENSIVE REMARKS at church on Sunday?
Did Jesus O’B ask William “Boom-boom” Ayers and his terrorist wife Bombadine Dohrn to stop their offensive remarks about America?
Chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp.
The truth hurts.
One of the biggest problems on race today is the view that “racism” continues to be a one way street. While MLK preached true equality, urging us to judge a man by his character and not the color of his skin, this country has failed to follow that dream. Instead, we attempted to pursue the strategy of offsetting one wrong with another, only to come to the inescapable conclusion almost 50 years later that 2 wrongs will never equal the right solution.
In its zeal to make amends for the sins of the past, the US embarked down the road of affirmative action, which even the Supreme Court has found to violate equal protections of the Constitution. But in setting that course, the result was the creation of a one way street; institutionalizing the view that racism was only something that applied to minorities as victims.
Various rationalizations for the contination of that thought have worked their way into America’s psyche over the years. We hear leaders of the black community often justify their outright racism by claiming that oppressed people wihout control can never be racist. We hear that America has not been forgiven for its sins of slavery and discrimination because it has not paid any price (conveniently ignoring the fact that the US was the only country in the World to engage in a civil was over the issue costing over 600,000 American lives, and conveniently ignoring the price paid by generations of white citizens under the thumb of affirmative action).
Unfortunately for those who would cling to those beliefs, Americans have a deep sense of fairness. Equality means just what it says. What is fair for one is fair for another.
People like Jeremiah Wright, the talking head PhD’s, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Barak and Michelle Obama, “cling” to those unequal notions of equality. And they are shocked and offended when their words and actions are put to the same objective, non-discriminatory test as the words and deed of the majority of the population. They have isolated themselves voluntarily, choosing to throw off one “separate but equal” system for one of their own creation. And in their self-imposed isolation they have completely lost touch with the rest of America, taking exception to true notions of fairness and equality.
The Obamas’ and Wrights’ of the World are quickly becoming anachronisms, unable to cope with the prospect of truly being treated as equals. While they would prefer to maintain a their status of “more equal”, and justify their higher status with cries of continued oppression and demands for reparations, the awakened American electorate is having none of it. Equal is equal, and fair is fair. Deal with it.
GO NORTH CAROLINA, GO GIRL!!!
I am a VIETNAM VET WIFE that thinks GOD SHOULD BLESS the USA and wants to hear the TRUTH NOT GARBAGE FROM Republicans running for President or any other office
go to comment page on McCain site
http://www.johnmccain.com
Rush just tore McCain a new one on this topic. On the one hand, McCain can be a maverick whenever it suits him, on the other, he expects us to not to do the same when we disagree with him. In this case, the NC ad is fine for most Americans, since he doesn’t wish to “fight” we’re suppose to follow him as if he’s at the head of some cult of personality. McCain is a loser.
lgm, nyk and friends
Jim M. you and Al Gore have given me an idea. We could make MILLION$.
Race Credits!!!
We could give racists dispensation for their hate/race speech and in return the can give us money.
I’m sending an application to Jeremiah Wright!!
We’re going to be rich!
I’t is realy sad to see what were stuck with.Im so tired of holding my nose to vote.
Nice job mule! Just spit my Coke out of my nose.
What exactly does McCain, our faux Republican nominee, mean by “this kind of campaigning”? Does this mean telling the truth about a Dem candidate? Shedding light on an issue that matters, so perhaps the Country can figure out just who Obama is? He is running for President afterall. Do I really need my Party’s nominee telling other Republicans that they are “out of touch with reality”?? This after being called a racist by McCain because I am in favor of my Country enforcing its immigration laws. With every moronic statement out of his mouth, I move closer and closer to staying home on election day.
McCain isn’t playing any games…He is what he is…a Flaming Liberal Democrat protecting his own party!!! I will NEVAH, EVAH VOTE for this doddering old traitorous fool…..(.In case you missed my earlier proclamations saying the same thing!!!)
(Did you read Noonans column..No ONE LIKES BUSH and McCain is BUSH all over again!!)
#147 Blind_Mule wrote:
Always kicking the conversation up another notch!
You’re so LCD.
Out of touch with reality? What the ad is is merely truthful. McCain is willing to be PC for what? The laughably percentage of African American votes he would get?
Ouch! hope you did’nt get any on the keyboards.
I don’t know that many Kool-aid drinkers, most mainstream Republicans are unhappy with the whole McCain thing but some of us can forget about his short comings as long as he remains silent. The more he talks the less likely he is to be elected. John: Just shut up and coast, okay?
McCain is too stupid to get out of his own way.
Obama and Rodham are pissing all over themselves, what with, Snipers shooting at them and Terrorists being their close friends.
So McCain in his infinite wisdom, tells NC Republicans to be nice to them.
McCain isn’t going to get liberals to vote for him and he isn’t going to get Conservatives to vote for him. He isn’t going to get Blacks to vote for him and he isn’t getting women to vote for him.
If he could just shut his cake hole until November….if….
Why is McCain so desperately trying to drive me away by attacking me (and conservatives like me) ??
That’s a hot one! Takes one to know one Senor McCain.
McCain was the distinct beneficiary of religious attacks on Romney and Huckabee – yet he said nothing. Now that he is the Republican Presidential nominee he wishes to give Obama a pass – which he neither deserves nor has earned in any way. If McCain thinks that this campaign is going to take the high road, then he had better quit running and give someone with a sense of reality a chance.
Obama and his associates are important opponents who must be completely vetted at all levels. All McCain’s protestations suggest is that he is afraid of being branded a racist. Here is a clue John – you will be branded a racist the minute you directly face Obama after the conventions.
I agree that he shouldn’t have panned the ad before seeing it – but I do have to say that his apology is one of the clearest I have ever seen from a politician. He leaves no doubt that he made a mistake and doesn’t make excuses, instead he takes full responsibility – I would love to see others (i.e. McCain) who were willing to admit when they were wrong without all of the doublespeak.
I don’t suppose Hunter is still on the NC ballot…
I’m simply making the same sweeping generalities about you that you made about posters on this blog.
You say your smug, condescending comments are valid because we’ve demonstrated it. Well, so have you.
#163 Member VRWC wrote:
Show me where.
Niced post Jim. I also think they are anachronisms. The Obamas are actually helping the country get over its collective guilt, because the whining about paying for music and dance lessons while trying to pay off Harvard loans on only $300,000 a year (OK, over a million with the books) just makes most people laugh. A Millionaire, Ivy-educated, Black man is making a credible run for President of the US. All further claims of institutional racism against blacks are null and void.
I’m pretty confused. In reply to some question the other day McCain pointed out Obama’s “20 year relationship” with Wright. Apparently he thought that was “fair game” to point out. Yet we’re not allowed to quote the aforementioned Wright? Seriously, you know how the left hates to be quoted. They often really do consider it to be underhanded. It’s funny. You quote a liberal, they’re like, how rude, how base, how devious and unfair. You quote a conservative and their attitude is, thank you very much. You should quote me early and often! In many ways, McCain has the mindset and attitude of a lib. I remember once McCain said about a piece of legislation he opposed, something like: “I guess that’s one reason I’m a conservative — I understand there are often unintended consequences to well-meaning legislation”. And my thought to that was, wow, he actually does have at least one conservative bone in his body. I was almost shocked.
Right back at ya. Unfortunately, I’m taking a hiatus from teaching. It is very emotionally and physically draining, especially at the secondary level. Maybe someday I’ll go back. Call me masochistic, but I’ve always been fascinated with kids and how they learn.
I worry about them. I have no children (yet) and wonder… what do I tell my child (ren) about stuff like what we’re discussing? That the world can be unfair and some adjust and some make excuses and can’t?
It’s a dilemma and a worry that hasn’t ebbed in the short period of time I’ve been alive.
Does McCain really think he can win without the Conservative vote? The answer will be a resounding NO! I had finally come to grips with voting for Mccain, but he has lost me again. He will not receive my vote on May 6th here in NC. We will have to see about the fall. I guess he knows he has the Romney-card to play. I hope that is his plan. We shall see. Michelle, or anyone else know how much the NC GOP has raised in the last few days. Also, it seems that other stations are joining WRAL, in obstructing free-speech. Hugo Chavez would be so proud.
When did the anointment take place with his majesty McShame…damn i missed it.
Just fired off a note of tks and encouragement to NCGOP and Linda Daves, state NCRC chairman(her word, not politically correct, I loved it).
Thank you for your very fine post. This is the second time you’ve impressed me today and I don’t say that often. Now, if you have a really cool troll picture that will definitely seal the deal.
This is, by no means, any disrespect to the fine work that AJ, DL, Soap, Rooster, Boomer, and the rest of the crew do on a daily business.
Even if we don’t agree on McCain…. you may get me to come around because his arrogant demeaner sometimes drives me toward acid reflux. Anyone got some Zantax?
nyk,
One of the most irritating things about you libs is the constant hyphenated Americanisms!
Where were you born in Africa? If you weren’t, how about saying you are an American who is black, or someone with a good tan!
#171 rooster wrote:
Addis Ababa.
I have been feeling like a voice crying in the wilderness. I have repeatedly stated that McCAin will destroy the REpublican party and especially conservatism. HE has no problems attacking or lying about republicans, but will not attack democrats. HE IS A DEMOCRAT. If we elect this angry, senile old man, he will destroy this party. He has made no overtures towards conservatives, other than to say “get in line” and many conservatives, like most here, have stepped right up. Well, not me. he has shown utter disdain for conservatives and I would rather have a democrat in the white house for 4 years than this repulisve man.
Good one!
This is why I don’t like the Americanism either. I’d have an extremely long Americanism because of my mixed ancestry.
We all may come from different backgrounds but, to me, it’s racial self-identification and I thought liberals didn’t like racial profiling?
Reach across political pals:
mccain is the wrong person at the wrong time for Republicans.
Deport mccain to mexico where he fits in.
“I would rather have a democrat in the white house for 4 years than this repulisve[sic] man.”
and the get.a.grip. list continues to grow …
/sigh
# 176
the list grows and grows …
npr *ucks
quit listening to that blather long ago, but thanks Michelle for the coverage.
I do agree with you to a certain extent. You, me, Ombre Rose will have our disagreements about McCain but on the substance of your arguments you make sense.
I think for the more pragmatic among us, and that includes myself, it will be a presidential election to forget. It’s a choice between the Stinky (Obummer) vs. the less Stinky (McCain). As options go… it stinks.
All I can say, to everybody here, please, don’t stay home, go out and vote for those running as Conservatives for your local, state, and national seats. If you don’t want to vote for McCain, that’s fine (that’s your choice), just don’t forget what else is on the line.
RIC… you may yet persuade me to vote in Papa Smurf. He, at least, knew the wisdom of exercising restraint and sanity when necessary.
I’d say that the most interesting thing about McCain’s “dispute” with the NC GOP over the ad is that it’s a good preview on what his campaign in the general election is going to be:
“Change you can believe in”
What’s that, you say, isn’t that Obama’s slogan? Why, yes it is… and what McCain seems to be gambling on is that he can steal it right out from under Obama’s feet without ever “officially” claiming it as his own.
McCain is pushing the “change” theme in two ways:
(1) He’s positioning himself as the only candidate who doesn’t just talk about “bipartisanship,” but has actually engaged in it – even at the cost to his own popularity in the Republican Party. Obama can’t show anything similar; the best Hillary can do is to point to her vote in favor of the Iraq War – which she’s now trying to downplay if not disown.
(2) McCain is also betting that the other kind of “change” he can appeal to is the desire of many for a candidate who refrains from the destructive partisanship they see all the time in DC. The only way to convince such people that he really is “a different kind of politician” is to scrupulously, even ostentatiously, avoid the temptation to join in the mud-slinging – and to refrain despite the fact that Obama’s own elitism, coupled with the embarrassing combination of Wright/Ayers-Dohrn/Rezko/Whiny-Ingrate-Wife presents such tantalizingly low-hanging fruit.
McCain’s gamble is straightforward: He’s wagering that by cultivating a credible reputation as a “centrist” and a “moderate” he’ll win enough independents and cross-over Democrats to more than offset the disenchantment among stalwart Republicans that his refusal to go for the throat will create. He’ll let talk radio and the blogosphere pursue the “character” angle on Obama, while he himself appeals to the electoral middle as “rising above it all.”
This strategy has its risks: once you commit to it, you can’t abandon it without blurring your image and undercutting your appeal. But there’s also something to recommend it: consider how well “Where’s the outrage?” worked for Bob Dole in 1996, then consider how the Swift Boat Vets torpedoed Kerry in 2004 while George Bush steered clear of Kerry’s war record. Lesson: better to let others wade into the “character” swamp while you stay high and dry. This is what McCain seems to be thinking.
What a case of “if – dog- rabbit!” If Wright had not stuffed his foot in his mouth with his outrageous rants, these video clips would not be still haunting him. It wasn’t enough to make the remarks, he had to sell the video which contained them. You reap what you sew, Rev. Wright!
Reg
thx. for articulating what JSM is doing — it seems to be lost on a lot of folks …
Agreed!
I salute John McCain for his service to our country. As a veteran and an NCO, I learned many lessons from my service, most of them good ones, and I’m sure he did too.
But one thing he apparently never learned either as an officer or later as a politician – as a leader dealing with your subordinates and your superiors, loyalty has to flow both ways, up and down, or people will correctly judge you to be just a “user” who is interested only in himself.
racial profiling is ok when looking for victims and votes. not ok when trying to protect americans.
Why does the democratic party get to run 2 candidates in the general election when the RINO’s have none???
Ahhh, I forgot success of the msm.
What??
All liberals profile everything they always have and likely always will. They will catorize you by your back ground too.
# 187
yeah, screw those several million primary voters, huh?
/g.a.g.
No surprise here about Juan McShame’s position. We all know that he is a Dimocrat in every way that counts. Gee, whatta thrill – - we get to choose between TWO Dimocrats in November. Or go third party – - and that is looking more and more attractive.
Buckaroo-
Why should conservatives vote for McCain? Spell it out for us…without, mind you, using the “lesser of two evils” argument.
Wow, some lady is really giving it to Medved right now (he agrees with McCain about this, of course)! Keep it up!