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		<title>By: firestorm31</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-302292</link>
		<dc:creator>firestorm31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!!!! Ouch!!!!!

talk about getting knocked up in the worst possible way not to have a baby.  Worst thing is that the babe (shes&#039;s kinda cute btw) in the video didn&#039;t have a say on this topic.

no choice = pro choice????

I think its just saying that black males are scummy or scumbags when their girlfriends get pregnant.  - complete lack of responsibility.

If this was supposed to be funny &amp; have an satirical air, I&#039;d say it fell flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch!!!! Ouch!!!!!</p>
<p>talk about getting knocked up in the worst possible way not to have a baby.  Worst thing is that the babe (shes&#8217;s kinda cute btw) in the video didn&#8217;t have a say on this topic.</p>
<p>no choice = pro choice????</p>
<p>I think its just saying that black males are scummy or scumbags when their girlfriends get pregnant.  &#8211; complete lack of responsibility.</p>
<p>If this was supposed to be funny &amp; have an satirical air, I&#8217;d say it fell flat.</p>
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		<title>By: Joemantler</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-302035</link>
		<dc:creator>Joemantler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a crappy offensive skit.  There&#039;s a bit of satire, and I think the over all message is anti-abortion, anti-black, and anti-male. But obviously the only message he wants to put out is &quot;I&#039;m outrageous and funny&quot;.  

At the very least, it is as anti-abortion as it is offensive.  I say &quot;Leave it&quot;.  It&#039;s not worth making a stink over.   

But would it hurt to make it &#039;restricted viewing&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a crappy offensive skit.  There&#8217;s a bit of satire, and I think the over all message is anti-abortion, anti-black, and anti-male. But obviously the only message he wants to put out is &#8220;I&#8217;m outrageous and funny&#8221;.  </p>
<p>At the very least, it is as anti-abortion as it is offensive.  I say &#8220;Leave it&#8221;.  It&#8217;s not worth making a stink over.   </p>
<p>But would it hurt to make it &#8216;restricted viewing&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: KaosKlerik</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301713</link>
		<dc:creator>KaosKlerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went looking for Sam Clark, who is credited with writing the PP (Superhero for Choice) video and found this.  I wonder if no one wanted to actually take credit for that piece of garbage so they attributed it to him.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://library.und.edu/Collections/og334.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sam Clark&#039;s Red Ink Magazine Collection:&lt;/a&gt; 1930s political magazine designed to fight corruption and spread truth. Published by Sam Clark, Bismarck, North Dakota, who also published Jim Jam Jems&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went looking for Sam Clark, who is credited with writing the PP (Superhero for Choice) video and found this.  I wonder if no one wanted to actually take credit for that piece of garbage so they attributed it to him.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://library.und.edu/Collections/og334.html" rel="nofollow">Sam Clark&#8217;s Red Ink Magazine Collection:</a> 1930s political magazine designed to fight corruption and spread truth. Published by Sam Clark, Bismarck, North Dakota, who also published Jim Jam Jems</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: fanzing</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301710</link>
		<dc:creator>fanzing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think it IS an anti-abortion message.  It&#039;s kind of a dumb skit, and I think DC Comics should get on their butt about using the Superman theme for such a controversial political skit (I don&#039;t think wholesale theft of a soundtrack falls under &quot;fair use for parody purposes).  But if you want to talk about what the skit is actually about... how can anyone see it as Pro-abortion?

The woman wants the baby and is happy.  The guy is the one who is entirely unconcerned with the life of the baby and sees it as ruining his life. The superhero is only a hero to the men who want to do away with babies that inconvenience them; what he does to the woman (even addressing her as &quot;fiend&quot; for wanting a baby) is hideous.

I mean...when the superhero symbol is a no-symbol over a baby (not a fetus) and the baby cries after it&#039;s &quot;ejected&quot;... it&#039;s not exactly sticking to the pro-choice &quot;unviable tissue mass&quot; argument.  Indeed, the woman doesn&#039;t even &quot;show&quot; yet, but when stomped on we see a whole baby go flying.  Thus, the makers of the skit are saying that the woman is carrying a crying baby no matter what stage she&#039;s at.

It&#039;s in bad taste, sure... but if it makes some people think about the callousness of abortion, then it does its job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think it IS an anti-abortion message.  It&#8217;s kind of a dumb skit, and I think DC Comics should get on their butt about using the Superman theme for such a controversial political skit (I don&#8217;t think wholesale theft of a soundtrack falls under &#8220;fair use for parody purposes).  But if you want to talk about what the skit is actually about&#8230; how can anyone see it as Pro-abortion?</p>
<p>The woman wants the baby and is happy.  The guy is the one who is entirely unconcerned with the life of the baby and sees it as ruining his life. The superhero is only a hero to the men who want to do away with babies that inconvenience them; what he does to the woman (even addressing her as &#8220;fiend&#8221; for wanting a baby) is hideous.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;when the superhero symbol is a no-symbol over a baby (not a fetus) and the baby cries after it&#8217;s &#8220;ejected&#8221;&#8230; it&#8217;s not exactly sticking to the pro-choice &#8220;unviable tissue mass&#8221; argument.  Indeed, the woman doesn&#8217;t even &#8220;show&#8221; yet, but when stomped on we see a whole baby go flying.  Thus, the makers of the skit are saying that the woman is carrying a crying baby no matter what stage she&#8217;s at.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s in bad taste, sure&#8230; but if it makes some people think about the callousness of abortion, then it does its job.</p>
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		<title>By: KaosKlerik</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301680</link>
		<dc:creator>KaosKlerik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Whatever Wayans did with “Abortion Man,” Planned Parenthood already topped on the offensive meter three years ago with “Superhero for Choice.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I love the part where the guy &quot;pushing&quot; abstinance is made to look like a pimp, and is condescending (&quot;Ms Smartie McSmartpants&quot;).  When he asks how they are going to protect themselves against STD&#039;s the girl says &quot;I don&#039;t plan to get one.&quot; and he replies sinisterly (as if he wants her to get one, &quot;No one ever does.&quot;  Then when the &quot;s(t)uperheroine&quot; shows up he acts as if he&#039;s doing something wrong.

How stupid do they think kids are to not see through that bit of subterfugue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Whatever Wayans did with “Abortion Man,” Planned Parenthood already topped on the offensive meter three years ago with “Superhero for Choice.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I love the part where the guy &#8220;pushing&#8221; abstinance is made to look like a pimp, and is condescending (&#8220;Ms Smartie McSmartpants&#8221;).  When he asks how they are going to protect themselves against STD&#8217;s the girl says &#8220;I don&#8217;t plan to get one.&#8221; and he replies sinisterly (as if he wants her to get one, &#8220;No one ever does.&#8221;  Then when the &#8220;s(t)uperheroine&#8221; shows up he acts as if he&#8217;s doing something wrong.</p>
<p>How stupid do they think kids are to not see through that bit of subterfugue?</p>
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		<title>By: RaisedRight</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301542</link>
		<dc:creator>RaisedRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t on my computer at all yesterday, so I just saw this. I figure that even if it is anti-abortion it is still crass and tactless. I don&#039;t want my pro-life beliefs argued with this kind of filth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t on my computer at all yesterday, so I just saw this. I figure that even if it is anti-abortion it is still crass and tactless. I don&#8217;t want my pro-life beliefs argued with this kind of filth.</p>
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		<title>By: BKennedy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301319</link>
		<dc:creator>BKennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wasn&#039;t nearly as awful as some of the above comments made it out to be.

I thought it was brilliant work, actually.

You see, however &quot;crude&quot; this video may be with its standard choreographed &quot;fight&quot;-scene (like a live-action Batman movie), this is in fact the truism:

Abortion, it&#039;s defenders, and its promoters view Abortion as a heroic savior. The only thing Wayans did was show who is saved: Irresponsible men. Just be glad he chose two minors instead of a 40 year old man and a younbg girl.

As to the women, well, physically, emotionally, and spiritually they get beat to the ground. And nobody cares, as Abortionman gets to fly off into the distance again as the hero to &quot;save&quot; another woman whenever he is needed.

This is reductio ad absurdum at its finest. People really DO treat abortion this flippantly. People really DO think abortion is a good thing for women instead of a horrible infliction of brutality on two lives, a woman and her child. And you basically have to argue with them for a full hour before they admit even the possibility that abortion might be the first line of defense against pregnancy, not the so-called &quot;last resort&quot; that PP always calls it.

This is reality Michelle, other fine commenters. All Wayans did was put it into the persona of &quot;Abortion Man.&quot; This wasn&#039;t anywhere near as appauling as Planned Parenthood&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dawneden.com/2005/08/planned-parenthood-fantasizes-about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Superhero for Choice&lt;/a&gt;. You remember that one, right Michelle?

Whatever Wayans did with &quot;Abortion Man,&quot; Planned Parenthood already topped on the offensive meter three years ago with &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dawneden.com/2005/08/planned-parenthood-fantasizes-about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Superhero for Choice&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wasn&#8217;t nearly as awful as some of the above comments made it out to be.</p>
<p>I thought it was brilliant work, actually.</p>
<p>You see, however &#8220;crude&#8221; this video may be with its standard choreographed &#8220;fight&#8221;-scene (like a live-action Batman movie), this is in fact the truism:</p>
<p>Abortion, it&#8217;s defenders, and its promoters view Abortion as a heroic savior. The only thing Wayans did was show who is saved: Irresponsible men. Just be glad he chose two minors instead of a 40 year old man and a younbg girl.</p>
<p>As to the women, well, physically, emotionally, and spiritually they get beat to the ground. And nobody cares, as Abortionman gets to fly off into the distance again as the hero to &#8220;save&#8221; another woman whenever he is needed.</p>
<p>This is reductio ad absurdum at its finest. People really DO treat abortion this flippantly. People really DO think abortion is a good thing for women instead of a horrible infliction of brutality on two lives, a woman and her child. And you basically have to argue with them for a full hour before they admit even the possibility that abortion might be the first line of defense against pregnancy, not the so-called &#8220;last resort&#8221; that PP always calls it.</p>
<p>This is reality Michelle, other fine commenters. All Wayans did was put it into the persona of &#8220;Abortion Man.&#8221; This wasn&#8217;t anywhere near as appauling as Planned Parenthood&#8217;s <a href="http://www.dawneden.com/2005/08/planned-parenthood-fantasizes-about.html" rel="nofollow">Superhero for Choice</a>. You remember that one, right Michelle?</p>
<p>Whatever Wayans did with &#8220;Abortion Man,&#8221; Planned Parenthood already topped on the offensive meter three years ago with &#8220;<a href="http://www.dawneden.com/2005/08/planned-parenthood-fantasizes-about.html" rel="nofollow">Superhero for Choice</a>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Abortionman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301162</link>
		<dc:creator>Abortionman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin points out a skit on YouTube by comedian Damon Wayans:&#160; Abortionman.&#160; Michelle asks: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mightysamurai</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301101</link>
		<dc:creator>mightysamurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally I&#039;m a fan of black humor (*badum-tish!*) but this was sort of bleh.  Not throw-up-in-my-mouth awful, but not particularly entertaining either.

And if there&#039;s an anti-abortion message in there, I don&#039;t see it.  In fact, I haven&#039;t the slightest idea what the message of this video is, or if it even has one at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally I&#8217;m a fan of black humor (*badum-tish!*) but this was sort of bleh.  Not throw-up-in-my-mouth awful, but not particularly entertaining either.</p>
<p>And if there&#8217;s an anti-abortion message in there, I don&#8217;t see it.  In fact, I haven&#8217;t the slightest idea what the message of this video is, or if it even has one at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Murder is Comedy? , An Ol&#8217; Broad&#8217;s Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301080</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Murder is Comedy? , An Ol&#8217; Broad&#8217;s Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not going to post the video, but you can see it here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Damon Wayans Advocates Black Genocide : Stop The ACLU</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-301071</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon Wayans Advocates Black Genocide : Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update by Jay: Michelle Malkin opens it up for debate. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christian Soldier</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-300991</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this early this morning-had to think on it while in class-
Don&#039;t know Wayans-
asked myself:

Did it show the anxiety of  women who are pregnant and are not sure of their &quot;other half&#039;s response -YES

Did it clearly illustrate abortion&#039;s  brutality against women - YES

Did it show the brutality toward the unborn child - Almost

I&#039;ll chalk it up to one for LIFE-whether that was the intent or not.

LFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this early this morning-had to think on it while in class-<br />
Don&#8217;t know Wayans-<br />
asked myself:</p>
<p>Did it show the anxiety of  women who are pregnant and are not sure of their &#8220;other half&#8217;s response -YES</p>
<p>Did it clearly illustrate abortion&#8217;s  brutality against women &#8211; YES</p>
<p>Did it show the brutality toward the unborn child &#8211; Almost</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll chalk it up to one for LIFE-whether that was the intent or not.</p>
<p>LFL</p>
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		<title>By: cire_kram</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/25/the-debate-over-abortion-man/comment-page-1/#comment-300986</link>
		<dc:creator>cire_kram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are looking at it way too seriously. I just think that the video does not convey anything. It is neither a critique from the left nor the right. I admit, it is crude. It is a joke that is thought up by a teenager. Teens, who has no clue in politics, will find it funny which I think is the intended audience of the skit.

In my humble opinion, it is funny though. It made me chuckle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are looking at it way too seriously. I just think that the video does not convey anything. It is neither a critique from the left nor the right. I admit, it is crude. It is a joke that is thought up by a teenager. Teens, who has no clue in politics, will find it funny which I think is the intended audience of the skit.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, it is funny though. It made me chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: undrseige247</title>
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		<dc:creator>undrseige247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#69 said:  Well, I don’t see any other way shaking one’s fist and threatening to punch someone can be intepreted. Then again, I’m not an idiot.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Listen, the fact is Ralph Kramden was a quick-tempered bus driver who was not the sharpest tool in the shed. His wife often pointed out his stupidity and she never flinched an inch when he burst into a tirade of insults and hallow threats of physical violence. In fact, he loved and respected his wife, thus ending every episode with, &quot;Baby, you&#039;re the greatest&quot;, followed by a hug and kiss.

Now, what I find upsetting and frankly nuts is in this Wayan&#039;s skit, &lt;em&gt;Abortionman&lt;/em&gt;, the &quot;superhero&quot; punches the woman in the stomach and puts her on the ground, then stomps on her forcing the fetus to pop out of her, and you&#039;d rather criticize the &lt;em&gt;Honeymooners&lt;/em&gt;! It&#039;s as if you&#039;re brainwashed to hate anything “old-establishment” and totally desensitized to anything ultra violent from the “new-establishment.&quot; I hope you can see how your &lt;em&gt;optic chiasm&lt;/em&gt; needs some Windex.

I respect your service to this country, but the fact is we trade punches and jabs to create insights for each other. I&#039;m sure I&#039;m due to take lumps as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#69 said:  Well, I don’t see any other way shaking one’s fist and threatening to punch someone can be intepreted. Then again, I’m not an idiot.</p></blockquote>
<p>Listen, the fact is Ralph Kramden was a quick-tempered bus driver who was not the sharpest tool in the shed. His wife often pointed out his stupidity and she never flinched an inch when he burst into a tirade of insults and hallow threats of physical violence. In fact, he loved and respected his wife, thus ending every episode with, &#8220;Baby, you&#8217;re the greatest&#8221;, followed by a hug and kiss.</p>
<p>Now, what I find upsetting and frankly nuts is in this Wayan&#8217;s skit, <em>Abortionman</em>, the &#8220;superhero&#8221; punches the woman in the stomach and puts her on the ground, then stomps on her forcing the fetus to pop out of her, and you&#8217;d rather criticize the <em>Honeymooners</em>! It&#8217;s as if you&#8217;re brainwashed to hate anything “old-establishment” and totally desensitized to anything ultra violent from the “new-establishment.&#8221; I hope you can see how your <em>optic chiasm</em> needs some Windex.</p>
<p>I respect your service to this country, but the fact is we trade punches and jabs to create insights for each other. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m due to take lumps as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Blind_Mule</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blind_Mule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;notanexpert said: 
 I guess I should have should of been more clear: I meant “black comedy” as in gallows humor, not as in comedy done by African-Americans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dark Humor is the word I think you may mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>notanexpert said:<br />
 I guess I should have should of been more clear: I meant “black comedy” as in gallows humor, not as in comedy done by African-Americans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dark Humor is the word I think you may mean?</p>
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