Hey, John McCain: Have you bothered watching the ad you condemned yet?; NYTimes piles on
Did you know that John McCain lambasted the North Carolina GOP’s anti-Obama/Jeremiah Wright ad without having seen it?
Yes, this noxious little tidbit was tucked into an AP story three days ago when the controversy broke and has been little remarked upon since. When I mentioned this fact at the Pennsylvania Leadership Conference dinner last night, much of the audience gasped. Obviously, the word hasn’t gotten out there enough:
The ad opens with a photo of Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright together and a clip of Wright, whose incendiary comments about race have bedeviled Obama.
“He’s just too extreme for North Carolina,” the narrator says in the 30-second spot. “We asked them not to run it,” McCain told reporters traveling with him in Kentucky. “I’m sending them an e-mail as we speak asking them to take it down.
“I don’t know why they do it. Obviously, I don’t control them, but I’m making it very clear, as I have a couple of times in the past, that there’s no place for that kind of campaigning, and the American people don’t want it,” McCain said.
McCain said the ad was described to him: “I didn’t see it, and I hope that I don’t see it.”
Let me repeat that:
“I didn’t see it, and I hope that I don’t see it.”
He didn’t bother to watch the 41-second video before his campaign leaned on the NC GOP to withdraw it.
He doesn’t want to see it, lest he sully his delicate eyes.
Yet, he’s so indignantly sure “that there’s no place for that kind of campaigning.”
And then he has the gall to turn around and knock Obama’s elitism.
Congratulations, Sen. McCain: You’ve out-snobbed Snobama.
Yes, without having seen the ad or talked directly to the NC GOP officials, he’s absolutely convinced that he’s right about his knee-jerk assessment of their supposedly bigoted motives.
McCain Math is the same as MSM Math: Southern + Republican + video featuring radical leftists who happen to be black = RACISTRACISTRACISTRACISTDANGERWILLROBINSON!
Naturally, McCain’s New York Times editorial board endorsers at the NYTimes were happy to oblige and pile on with a Pavlovian editorial this morning calling the ad racist and divisive, “shameful and ugly.” Congratulations for giving your friends at the NYTimes the rope to hang North Carolina Republicans, Sen. McCain:
The assertion that Mr. Obama is “just too extreme for North Carolina” is a clear bid to stir bigotry in a Southern state…Senator McCain was right when he said, of the new ad, that “there’s no place for that kind of campaigning — and the American people don’t want it, period.”
Now he needs to get his party to listen.
Here’s the vid from yesterday’s Today Show interview with McCain that I blogged about yesterday:
The transcript:
VIEIRA: Okay. I want to switch gears here and talk about the latest controversy. It’s over an ad in North Carolina coming two weeks before the Democratic primary.
VOICE OVER: For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew, listening to his pastor.
REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT: And then wants us to sing God bless America? No, no, no.
VIEIRA: The ad says, quote, “just too extreme for North Carolina.” Now, you have called this ad degrading and you’ve asked the state party to pull it. But so far, they’ve refused to do that. Why do you think they’re not listening to you, a? And why do you believe they would continue to raise questions about Senator Obama’s patriotism?
McCAIN: They’re not listening to me because they’re out of touch with reality in the Republican party. We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan, and this kind of campaigning is unacceptable. I have said that. It will harm the Republicans’ cause. And I’ve done everything that I can to repudiate and to see that this kind of campaigning does not continue. I have engaged in and will continue a respectful campaign of either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton.
VIEIRA: Senator Obama said if you wanted to, you could get that ad pulled because you are, after all, the nominee and the standard bearer. So if you can’t get the ad pulled, does it raise any questions about your leadership?
McCAIN: I don’t know exactly how to respond to that, except that I would hope that Senator Obama would repudiate and apologize for his remarks concerning the heartland of America where his elitist remarks indicated that people who are hardworking dedicated people, who harbor traditional values and principles and value their religion and the Second Amendment of the Constitution would not be treated in an elitist fashion. I hope he’ll apologize for that.
How about you apologize first, Sen. McCain, for running to the liberal media to once again trash conservatives as racists for exposing hard truths about the hard Left?
Not bloody likely.
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Following the cue of McCain and Howard Dean, there are now two TV stations who refuse to play the ad because it is “offensive.”
Always happy to show it here again (with a reminder that the NCGOP could use your financial support):
Meanwhile, McCain continues to give himself special dispensation to challenge Obama’s relationship with Weather Underground radical Bill Ayers.
Because, you see, raising questions about a Radical of Color is “not appropriate and unhelpful,” but raising questions about a Radical of Pallor is McCain-tested and RNC-approved.
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So, the “opposition” doesn’t factor in?…On what planet?
My point is, even if he’s only 20% conservative, he’s still more conservative than either Obama, or Clinton.
This ain’t brain science
Lemmee see if I have this straight , see-dubya: you will allow posters continually to attack the morals, integrity and character of conservative leaders on this site (knowing their comments increase traffic and hence your salary)
BUT when posters simply wish the natural death (not advocate, not conspire in, or the killing of) of certain bogus conservatives,
you feel the need to interpose yourself as a moral referee and rule their comments to be out of bounds.
MAY I SUGGEST, sir, that you allow the former in order to increase the traffic and the revenues of this site, thus benefitting… yourself?
MAY I SUGGEST, sir, that you are too obtuse to understand that the difference between the WISH and the ACT is what constitutes Civilization?
MAY I SUGGEST, sir, that allowing vicious and witless trolls to hijack this site in order to undermine American culture and values, while castigating those who favor those things, marks you as intellectually clueless?
AND MAY I SUGGEST, sir, that your presence here, as well as your ill-considered censoriousness, tells many of us that MM.com has JUMPED THE SHARK?
No, I’m pretty sure McCain is a liberal. He has lots of liberal policy positions. More to the point, he has the liberal mindset, the self-righteous, intolerant, shut-up-you-bigots, don’t-dare-question-me-you-peasants arrogance which is the besetting sin of all liberals. In fact he has that to a worse degree than Obama or Clinton. I’m sure they think it, but they at least have the tact to keep it to themselves.
Ok, Snobama tends to let the mask slip. But McCain does not even wear one.
Frank, you are correct. He is MORE CONSERVATIVE than his Opposition.
He is not 80% Conservative.
Michael Jordon scored more than his opposition, but he didn’t score 80 points a game.
I have NEVER, insinuated that McCain is a lesser choice than Jesus Obama or Rodham.
I am going to vote for McCain, despite the fact that he isn’t Conservative.
Have a great weekend.
You have yet to demonstrate that he is 20% conservative, or that he is more conservative than Clinton or Obama.
Pretty much all the issues McCain has built his reputation on have been left-wing ones - the amnesty bill, campaign finance reform, opposition to “torture”, opposition to the Bush tax cuts as hand-outs to the rich, etc.
Supposedly he is pro-gun and pro-life. But I notice that he never takes any high profile roles in fighting for those causes the way he does for left-wing ones. So I’m skeptical.
yup
Before I go to bed, one last thought: McCAin will be exactly or worse than Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in CA. Arnold has succumbed to almost every liberal pressure (from caliming to be a moderate): gay marriage, putting gay friendly writings only in school textbooks, higher taxes, hiring liberals as part of his cabinet, now refusing to curb eminent domain. Do the McCAin Bots honestly think that McCain will do better than ARnold who is WORSE for CA than Gray DAvis was? Come on; he will fold faster than Arnold. McCain should be defeated. My fear is he will not be (since too many conservatives are willing to sell out to him) and conservatism will be relegated to some history books.
I think that is very much open to debate. I notice the people who say it never muster any facts and arguements in support.
libocrat….I understand. I have no quarrel with honest folk who take that stand. I expect that most conservatives will ultimately accept him, given the lack of options, although I, personally, can not.
My quarrel is with his enthusiastic supporters. I really don’t care for folks who have given lip service to three-legged conservatism but turn out to be delighted when they can elect a candidate who has only one strong leg (the defense leg). I sorta feel that they were jivin’ all the time in the pretense of being full-spectrum, Reagan conservatives.
RIChick…What ~you~ said! Exactly!
Flenser, he supports the military he is pork light.
Game set match.
I understand your anger, but McCain is more Conservative than Obama or Rodham.
He doesn’t want to confiscate your and every corporations wealth. He hasn’t promised us his “free health care” plan.
I just mustered my friend.
The “best” conservatives can hope for from a McCain victory is that he will pull a few down-ticket votes toward GOP or conservative Dem candidates who might otherwise be lost to Dems.
Otherwise he has no “coattails” , to use a phrase describing Nixon’s ability to pull GOP candidates to victory in the 1960 election.
Ignatius, I am with you, only I will vote for McCain. I agree with R-i-chick as well. But once again, I’d vote for Arnold if Jesus Obama or Rodham were his opponents.
To not vote for the lesser of three evils gives those you can’t control nor trust your future. I have heard theories that the GOP get butt kicked would be good in the long run, but 2 more Ginsbergs would make me vomit.
2 more Ginsbergs might render this great nation moot.
I think MM.com is showing HUGE courage. Not just on McCain but, also, on the CC support of illegal immigration. Clearly MM says what she thinks. Thankfully, many conservative Catholics recognize the validity of her concerns.
No…MM don’t be jumpin’ no sharks, dude.
Amnesty Bill: Dead Horse
Campaign Finance Reform: Dead Horse
opposition to “torture”: Same as Hillary and Obama
Tax-cuts: Favors making them permanent…The opposition wants to roll them back…Out of your pocket.
Iraq: Stay ’til the job’s done…Opposition: Tail between their hind-legs, run away, leaving millions of innocent Iraqis to a fate YOU don’t want to face.
The opposition suggests massive regulation and interference in a Major Industry (Medical)…That, in my opinion, is just looking for a disaster similar to the Social Security mess.
The opposition favors raising taxes on Capital Gains, directly effecting over 40% of the population, and indirectly effecting all of us.
That’s the short list, and covers at LEAST 20%
Again Ignatius, we are kindred. I am as Catholic as they come, and I love Pope Benedict. But that doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with him. He isn’t American, and his concerns on Illegal Mexigrants aren’t based on any Bibilical teachings. It’s a social Homily, and I understand his good intentions, but his good intentions on American internal politics are just his own personal opinions, unless Catechism or Scripture based. On the other hand, I don’t resent the Pope, he means well, and he isn’t issuing a FATWA.
Frank….bingo. A zero return on my investment vs. (at least) 20% return is a no brainer. And we are just discussing issues. When it comes to honesty and character he wins hands down. The only thing libs have in their McCain playbook is “lobbyists”.
I will laugh hysterically when they play that card.
Harry Reids kids. Rodhams loser brother.
I’m begging the left to play that card.
I’m begging the left to bloody McCains nose.
Then Johnny nice guy, will open up a can of Whup-ass.
Drooly #302:
You MAY SUGGEST whatever tickles your fancy, as long as that doesn’t include wishing death–even natural, peaceful, painless death– on presidential candidates.
Hey, Boss’s e-mail is up top. Fire away!
She’s nit-pickin’, jus’ like our Liberal friends do.
libocrat said:
I’m sorry, I have no trust in McCain. Do you remember how he practically sneered at Romney when he went on about serving for patriotism and not for profit, as if profit was a dirty thing? I guess “real men” marry into money rather than making it themselves…
And sorry, there is no way we will get conservative justices with McCain and a Senate run by Democrats. The Democrats are still furious over Roberts and Alito, and will never allow another conservative on the Supreme Court so long as they have the votes.
The only chance we have of taking back the House and the Senate in the near future is if we are stuck with an awful Democrat president. You know I am right about this.
I guess, when you’re trying to run a “Fair and Balanced” blog, every candidate gets his day in the barrel.
Today is McCain’s turn.
heh,heh,heh
Trollman, you are right.
Who he marries is not my concern. By your assertion only losers can marry rich chicks. Heavy hitters run in the same circles. I do not know, nor do I care how and why McCain and his wife came to be. But your political analysis of McCain is pretty good.
I’m pretty pragmatic.
I can vote for Obama and get a Sh!t sandwich.
I can vote for Rodham and get a bowl of vomit for lunch.
I’M COMPLETELY SURE OF THAT.
I can vote for McCain and get watered-down hands across the waters, conciliatory, lets make friends with Russ Feingold and Ted Kennedy, and have to swallow stale bologna.
It’s a simple choice.
I’m not happy with that choice, and to give your PROPS, I am a Romney man. When McCain had direct competition, he didn’t play nice guy. This chivalrous act is transparent. I believe McCain’s dog and pony show is in response to a couple years of MEDIA LOVE and PRAISE of McCain. He found his McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy schtick, garnered him warmth and acceptance for the LIB MSM.
It did.
Much like the black populous LOVED RODHAM and slobbered all over her, exactly up to and until they had a BLACK OPTION, the MSM, praised John McCain only because he was the ONLY Republican that they didn’t hate.
He is the Republican Uncle Tom. He loves the adulation, he loves being ACCEPTED by the opposition. He’s kidding himself. The left and the MSM, think he’s a nice Republican. The left thinks all Republicans are Bible thumping, Gun toting, Racists. Republicans and specifically Conservatives, don’t want to feed children, we want a never ending war, where G.W.BUSH’s “buddies” get rich via oil and Haliburton. I’ll stop bloviating, but Liberals are not going to treat McCain kindly. He is their enemy real real soon. McCain isn’t sly as a fox. McCain doesn’t know something that we don’t know. McCain believes that he has a nice guy/clean strategy that will work. He’s nuts. But along the way, he is pissing on those he needs, and glad handing those who will NEVER vote for him. I’d reject him if I was given a better choice. I’m not voting FOR McCain, I’m voting against Jesus Obama and Rodham, and I’m fully aware that McCain will not pick Roberts or Alito, but I know Obama or Rodham would pick Michael Moore for the SCOTUS.
Frank, I sincerely don’t mean to be rude, but, you seem pissed off. You are obviously bright, and you make sense in a lot of ways. But Michelle Malkin is an extremely principled Conservative. She is not an arm of the Republican party. I’ve challenged you and others on issues as regards McCain, and I’ve acknowledged that I AM going to vote for Senator McCain. But Michelle isn’t carrying water for Republicans. Her entire career and her paying gigs and blog are HER PRINCIPLES.
Dick Morris worked for the Clintons for years. Now he abjectly despises Rodham and B.J.Billies legacy, (such as it is).
He is not principled. James Carville is wrong almost all of the time, but he is telling it like he sees it and has principles. He is wrong and is somewhat of a demogogic Clown prince, and media darling, but he means what he says. So does Michelle. I don’t know Michelle, and I’m not a star struck, but I think Mrs.Malkin is credible and honorable. Frank, you and I had a brief “run-in”, but I think we gave and took and came to a basic common ground.
We are concerned and educated citizens.
Michelle does this for a career. You and I are not in her solar system, because her talent and principles have found a niche. I don’t always agree with her, but I respect her immensely.
See-dubya proves my point: worse, he is programmed only to send, not receive.
He doesn’t send REASON. He arrogantly assumes he is in right, and leaves it at that. No need for him to actually deal with what I SAID.
IOW: “we don’t need no stinkin’ reasoning at MM.com.”
Bottom line: Once your site has a GATE-KEEPER who doesn’t respond “on the merits”, you’ve jumped the shark.
Then your gate-keeper’s a CRYPT-KEEPER.
Poor Michelle: she’a a victim of a common malady among the Blogerati: she’s spread herself too thin and lost control over the franchise by turning it over to a Lesser Being.
We and conservative advisor’s have already moved McCain to the right, thats the plus and the minus of him.
John McCain is a Truman Democrat, he has maddening liberal tendencies but there will be an America standing when he leaves and he can be moved like Truman.
Compare Harry Truman to Nikita Khrushchev with a stacked deck and you have this years match up.
Put it another way, when an amnesty bill comes across the Presidents desk, and it will, of the three running which is more likely to be swayed by our threats to show up with tar, feathers and a rail?
Some things can not be undone.
BTW, we’re not done with George’s amnesty ways either.
Stop the music.
Today’s blog-post is about an
issuecontroversy, that in the overall scheme of the election, doesn’t amount to a fart in a hurricane.She just needed to string a few silly words together, to take up time and space, ’cause there wasn’t anything else to talk about.
Frank, you and I just disagree here.
You hold out hope and you have faith in McCain. Michelle doesn’t. For the most part, I do not either, but I’m still going to try to persuade in my circles, that people vote for McCain.
Michelle isn’t on her own blog to preach to the choir. Frank, I may be dead wrong, but I sense that you are annoyed with M-M, because you feel she is damaging McCains’ cause. I don’t think she is. This blog is home to conservatives and Republicans. There is no real likelihood that Senator McCain will lose support to a rival, UNLESS, some Conservaties sit the election out.
If they do, They are dumber than Kitty litter.
I love your passion Frank, and I hope I have not offended you.
Not passion…Fear
I take it that you people voting for McCain because he is the lesser of two evils would have no problem voting Ted Kennedy president if he was running against Obama with the lower ACU rating.
There are very few conservatives left who will publicly call McCain on his crap.
See-dubya was very wise early on wanting to see something conservative from McCain before blindly committing his vote. Laura Ingraham is an example of someone who said she was going to vote for him regardless. This is how McCain is more dangerous than a Democrat. There will be no opposition to his liberalism much like Bush proceeded in the last 8 years.
MM and Rush are the Alamos in this battle against a McCain presidency. Thank God for them. McCain has neither the character nor temperament to be POTUS. He is a bitter old man with plenty of scores to settle against conservatives.
Interesting allegation. What do you base it on? Conservatives supporting McCain is conservatives committing suicide. If you don’t like the country moving left, you need to stop voting for lefty politicians. As long as you keep voting for lefty politicians, the country will keep moving left.
I don’t see what part of this is so difficult.
Fear is the mind killer.
libocrat
Umm…. are we still taking about McCain here? Because the man is a snake in the grass.
I have to agree with Flenser. If we don’t vote for McCain, and Jesus Obama or Rodham is elected. We’re stopped lefties from being elected.
In order to stop the country moving left, we need to allow Rodham or Obama to get elected.
I understand the anger. It’s the logic that is funny.
Oh, Btw, Flenser, I wasn’t making an “allegation”, I was stating my opinion. I think it is quite clear that Obama and Rodham are far more to the LEFT than McCain.
You are suggesting that I NOT vote for McCain so as to stop the country moving left.
I’ve got news for you Flenser, you aren’t very bright. If I don’t vote for McCain, the country moves……..LEFTER.
It’s known as cutting off my nose to spite my face.
The choices are bad. Pick one or shut your pie hole. Sir.
I don’t think, I can even begin to unravel that pretzel.
heh,heh,heh
Flenser, I’m beginning to think you are a nut, but I’ll give it one more try.
Assuming you are correct and McCain is a snake.
Obama is a very very poisonous snake.
Rodham is a Viper.
One is going to be President. 2 don’t have anti-dotes/anti-venom.
You are suggestiong VOCIFEROUSLY, that given the choice of 3 snakes, we should eliminate the one that is the LEAST venomous. Sir, you do realize that Jesus Obama and Rodham are WORSE choices?
Or do you?
Frank, it’s anger management.
The Transitive property.
1(I’m pissed off at my choice of Conservatives. Republicans are supposed to be Conservative.
2)(I’m not pissed off at Jesus Obama, because I have no expectations of him, as he is a socialist.
3(Rodham would sell her own mother for power, she is a vile despicable, dishonest, mean, ugly, phony, lying windbag.
4)McCain and the Republican party let me down, so I’ll screw myself to punish him.
RealImmigrantChick has got it correct.
Let’s review McCain:
1. He thought of leaving the Republican Party not once but twice.
2. At a time when firearm owners were in knock-down drag-out fighting with the previous Clinton Administration over gun control,Mr. McCain was by the end of the 1990’s went from Conservative to Liberal on the subject (just like Al Gore did just before he was tapped by Bill Clinton in 1992).
3. At a time when we are in a so-called war on terror, John McCain like the current President wants open-borders, and political correctness towards muslims who may well know potential terrorists.
4. Sen. Cochrane of North? Dakota implies that it would “chill” him to have McCain as president because of his past behavior with people of his own party.
I have just begun to point out the issues that concern me with the idea of handing John McCain the White House.
I’m gonna’ give McCain 4 years, to prove himself.
The first time he f**ks up, the campaign for his ouster for the next 4 years begins.
In other words, if he doesn’t toe the line, we’ll find someone who will.
Here is the bottom line:
If we back McCain for the whitehouse, it is clear he will do nothing for conservatives. In fact we will have to be fighting with both him, the Rinos, and the Democrats- a virtual 3 front war.
In the short-term it doesn’t matter (barring entrance of a serious effort by Bob Barr who left the Repubs in 2006) who wins - we will have to fight liberal causes/people.
But for the longterm having us conservatives fight McCain, RINOS and DEmocrats is ruinous and will force us to form or join a third party.
What we must do is to legitimately defeat McCain now… today. Why?
Simple.. it sends a message to other RINOS that screw the base and your ambitions will crumble to dust, so you will have to work with Conservatives in your party.
Failure to do this now, and I can guarantee we will have more “McCainiacs” trying to do exactly what John McCain is doing right now in 2010+
Don’t give this guy four years…I would not be suprised if he at some petty point just changes his affiliation to “independent” while in office.
I am not being flippant tonight.
Who knows?
We may be pleasantly surprised by McCain.
My crystal ball is unclear on this.
Franksalterego.
Take good care friend, and don’t ever change. Fight the good fight. I’m sorry if I’m not as fervant as you, but Frank, you are one of the good guys.
I’m on your side friend. I’m just coming from a little different perspective.
I wish you the best.
love2rumba. God bless. I understand your position. I simply will not sacrifice 4 or 8 years to resurrect Conservatism. I don’t buy the “assumption” that a Ultra-Lib administration is the GENISUS for the re-birth of Consrvatism/Reagan principles. Again, I understand the philosophy as such, but I don’t accept it. There is no guarantee. In fact, our nation has moved to the left, at the same time, leftoids, cry WOLF.
We have a CULTURE WAR to fight. We have a chasm betwixt NUTS and US. The LEFT has infested and infected TEENS and College aged kids. The Hate G.W.Bush mentality has become rampant vis a vis, those that are in CHARGE of our KIDS/youth. The HIPPIES, those that were misfits in the late 6o’s and beyond. Are NOW our EDUCATORS.
Those that thought KUMBAYA was a strategy, are now PROFESSORS. Most Conservatives, did not become EDUCRATIC/BUREAUCTATIC wastes of space/tenure/sick days/paid holidays/pensions/and retired at 55, with the spouse as well.
Bill Ayers is Obama and Rodham in a NUT….shell.
I AGREE TOTALLY AND HAVE FOR at least 15 years!
If nothing else, anyone “thinking” about it needs to look at their portfolios of actual, like, ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT NAIL!!!
MAJOR KUDOS AND TOP SALUTES!
Love that line about Caligula - something about him ALWAYS reminds me of McVain, for some reason. I really don’t know why. Every time they show an actor portraying Caligula, like the History Channel or something, I keep thinking how “at home” McVain would look in that little costume.
He already has - over and over and over and over…
Makes you sorta like Yosemite Sam drawing that line in the sand all the way across the Sahara, one foot at a time, for Bugs Bunny, ” I DAST YA TUH STEP ACROSS THAT LINE! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! …
THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! … THAT one! …”
Knock yerself out! ENJOY!
I agree TOTALLY AND have no doubt whatsoever of what our Founding Fathers would have done with him - and it didn’t involve electing him to Public Office, I gawr-own-TEE!
OR Fred Thompson and Jerry Perenchio.
libocrat said:
I don’t care that McCain married rich. I do care that having done so, he then looks down on a man who made his own money.
It is like a person on welfare who looks down on someone who works for a living.
Once McCain has fulfilled his ambition of becoming president, what will conservatives have over him? He will have gotten what he wanted. He will likely then enjoy becoming the most “bi-partisan” president in history. yay
Folks,
Let’s put our money where our sentiments are. I am sending the McCain campaign a brief letter expressing my absolute disgust with their candidate. I am enclosing 1 (one) expired dog food coupon as a contribution. Let’s try that on a massive scale; who knows? if this idea grows, it’s the kind of thing the MSM might notice. BTW, McAmnesty lost me forever while I lived in S. Arizona, when illegals invaded our new subdivision. I miss Az. but had to get the h#ll out of there.
nearly 30 percent of GOP voters picked someone other than McCain in the primary.
This is not looking good.
Maybe its time to remember the cutting-edge issue here…
McCain
on the sole basis of RACE (making him a racist)
condemned a perfectly legitimate political ad
he had never seen
run by people he is trying…without
AUTHORITY…
to bully into following his demands.
And he deplores them MORE…IN PUBLIC AND THROUGH THE PRESS…
than he does the slime Rev. Wright.
libocrat said;
You name and attitude make it clear that you are not especially interested in “resurrecting” conservatism at all. So supporting a liberal is an easy decision for you to make. Maybe you can let us conservatives decide if that’s something we are willing to do?
I agree with you, libocrat. Obama is the MOST left, Hillary is LESS left, and McCain is hardly left at all, really. It is just that he is lacking in any core conservative convictions, is arrogantly ambitious, eager to deal with the left, and hostile to conservatives.
But here is the irony, IMO: The further left these candidates are, the LESS dangerous they are.
Obama would be recognized as a radical and feared as much by most Dem congress critters as by the GOP. Dem pols know that a radical leftist agenda would be frightening to the country and potentially disastrous. Obama would be held in check by an absolutely solid Republican caucus with strong support from centrist Democrats, perhaps half of the Dems.
Hillary is much, much more dangerous. With Hillary, you are not going to see Michael Moore invited to the WH. She would steer the country strongly left while mouthing centrist values and carrying the whole Democrat caucus with her, except perhaps on the war where some would consider her insufficiently left. But at least, Hillary would be strongly opposed by what is left of the GOP.
But when McCain makes a proposal that is to the liking of the left — and you can be sure that he would because it is the only kind of legislation that he would be able to pass — all the RINOs will stick with him plus 100 percent of the Dems. In other words, “moderately” left proposals like large hikes in the minimum wage, restrictions on talk radio, and OPEN BORDERS legislation will have clear sailing. He may not be a “leftist,” but he is left-friendly, a tool of the left, and anything he proposes that the left likes will have no meaningful opposition. And, remember, McCain is not smart. He has some understanding of defense policy, but he is clueless on economics and domestic policy, in general. Remember, it took a REPUBLICAN to cozy up to China. This is the same situation. A rogue Republican can take us down the road to socialism in the way that a Democrat can not.
There are people — some neocons — for whom “100 years in Iraq” is an attractive slogan and for whom an aggressive US policy in the middle east trumps all other considerations. (I am talking to YOU, Bill Kristol.) Actually, many of these folks are more or less on the open borders side anyway and don’t care much about other issues except the economy. For them, maybe McCain is a rational choice, although we are coming home from Iraq (unless a hot war begins with Iran) and it does not matter that much who is president. The Dems are going to kick our butts in the congressional elections. The POTUS may be the CINC, but the congress controls the purse. We will be coming home.
I understand the obvious logic of voting for McCain as the “lesser of evils.” I just believe that when one gets down into the subtleties an entirely different picture emerges. I just hope enough people will see this so as to make the point for the next generation: Running away from the conservative base is a suicidal strategy for a GOP presidential candidate.
Why do liberals always “argue” in this fashion?
The most venomous choice would be for a lefty to be elected by conservatives. THAT is what kills conservatism stone dead.
Your peculiar fantasy that Clinton and Obama are much more liberal than McLiar is silly. I notice that you still have not even attempted to back it up.
You know what they say about opinions. I’m asking you why you have that opinion.
Not at all. But we HAVE stopped the GOP from becoming a second liberal party. If the GOP becomes a second liberal party, America has gone left, forever. If the GOP remains a conservative party, there is a good chance that in time a conservative party will be in power again.
I’m sure that you do understand all of this. But you actually want two liberal parties.
You would not understand logic if Mr Spock himself explained it to you.
I’m pretty sure that you just contradicted yourself. Lacking any core convictions, arrogantly ambitious, eager to deal with the left, and hostile to conservatives describes the left to a tee. He may not have a copy of Marx on his bookshelf. I doubt McClown even reads. But he is an operational lefty.
I’m having a hard time distingishing between the Looney Left Wing Extremist/Fanatics, and the Looney Right Wing Extremist/Fanatics, in this thread.
All those, in favor of higher taxes, raise your hand.
All those, in favor of a precipitous withdrawl from Iraq, raise your hand.
All those, in favor of trashing the finest health care system in the world, raise your hand.
I’m going to send my resume to McCain; he needs better handlers. Who the heck is advising him anyway? To make a decision based on second hand opinion is just plain stupid. He should know better.
The interesting think about Hillary is that if you look at the campaigns people are running, she is running the most conservative one in many respects, even compared to McCain. Of course this was forced upon her. The radical left deserted her for Obama, and she finds herself the candidate of the Reagan Democrats. Who’d have ever thought that would come to pass?
Still, if she were elected by the Reagan Dems I think she’d be more centerist than you believe. She also now has a grudge to settle with the radical wing of the party, who she feels betrayed her. I think Clinton would be a huge improvement over Obama.
Why do liberals always “argue” like this?
America’s Middle East strategy will have nothing to do with whoever is elected President after Bush. The Democrats are not going to raise taxes on “the rich”. They ARE the rich. And the biggest fans of national health-care are businessmen, who want to shift that burden from themselves.
All those, in favor of gun control, raise your hand.
I’m sure that in Franks’s mind, he just made a devastating point. Everyone else is wondering what the hell he’s talking about.
If you are looking for an anti-gun-control President, you are not going to like McCain.
All those, in favor of “rights” for criminals, at the expense of the rights of law-abiding citizens, raise your hand.
All those, in favor of piercing the skull of a new-born infant, and sucking it’s brain out, raise your hand.
All those, in favor of gov’t funding for Frankenstein - Cannibalistic Science Embryonic Stem-Cell research, raise your hand.
Translation: “I’m not sure, whether to raise my hand, or not.”
The revealing thing about the people trying to make a conservative case for McCain on this thread is that they are so obviously NOT conservatives themselves. McCain is widely disliked by the gun rights crowd due to several pieces of what they consider anti-gun legislation he has introduced over the years.
If Frank was in those circles he’d know this. We have several liberals on this thread trying to reassure conservatives that hey, McCain IS a conservative.
McCain’s political views run the spectrum from wishy-washy centerism to outright liberalism. His gun views fall into the wishy-washy centerism part.
Sure thing, Frank. I’m sure you are a deeply commited Christian anti-abortion activist.
It’s peculiar that you find yourself trying to make arguments for McCain which you yourself do not believe.
Is that your hand, I see waving there?
If you’re gonna’ make the case for Clinton on this blog, you’re gonna’ have a tough row to hoe.
Do frank and libocrat realise how transparent they are?
“OK, what have I gotta do to convince these hayseeds that they should back McCain? I hear they are big on guns and Jesus. Maybe I can work that angle.”
John McCain raises his hand, with Hillary and Barack.
Hillary and Barack raise their hands, but know they are lying to their base. Both have stated the truth…they cannot leave….
All three raise their hands.
Who’s in favor of trashing our economy in the name of the false religion called
“man-made climate change”?
All three raise their hands.
Who’s in favor of extending to jihadii pirates the same constitutional rights that any American accused of a garden-varity crime enjoys, raise your hand?
All three raise their hands.
Who can effectively see to it that all the above are implemented by pretending to lead the GOP?
Only John McCain can raise his hand.
Actually, I’m making the case for conservatism. But I’m sure that is such a strange beast to you that you have trouble recognizing it.
Oh look,
flenser’s putting words in my mouth…Aren’t we clever?
Just pointing out that you have a habit of making arguements which you don’t believe yourself.
Instead of telling us what you think we should think, why not simply tell us what YOU think? Assuming that you do think.
I don’t believe even for a microsecond that you care about gun rights or the unborn. A sincere statement of your own beliefs would be a lot more persuasive than this dissembling and attempted manipulation.
It’s clear, you have a very limited, or no understanding of what’ll happen to those “Jihadi pirates” when Guantanamo is shut down.
What is clear is that you have no idea what you are bloviating about here.
McCain isn’t just militating for the closing of GitMo. Or is that news to you?
Given frank’s obvious expertise with the law, I’m hoping he will tell us what WILL happen when Gitmo is closed.
He was too busy sneering to get around to it earlier.
Believe me, when I say this…
Shutting down Guantanamo is the Jihadi Pirate’s worst nightmare.
Wow man, that’s heavy! But I suppose you are sworn to secrecy as to to the exact details. No doubt it involves taking them all out back and putting a bullet in their heads.
What a maroon.
Use your head for something other than keeping your ears apart.
Most of the prisoners at Guantanamo are Taliban fighters in military custody…They’ll be transferred back to Afghanistan to face Karsai’s justice.
And, after the recent assassination attempt….
Wouldn’t wanna’ BE ‘em.
Uh…no…I won’t.
And…
why should I?
You sound like a candidate for national office…
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-06-18-gitmo-candidates_N.htm
…all wishful thinking aside….
On what legal grounds will we transfer an assortment of Saudi, Syrian, Egyptian, and other nationals to Afghanistan? A fair number of Gitmo inmates have already been released for different reasons. None of them were turned over to “Karsai’s justice”. Several of them were later killed or detained again in fighting with Coalition forces.
What will be done with future terrorists we capture, if Gitmo is closed?
KABUL, Afghanistan — Dozens of Afghan men who were previously held by the United States at Bagram Air Base and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are now being tried here in secretive Afghan criminal proceedings based mainly on allegations forwarded by the American military.
The prisoners are being convicted and sentenced to as much as 20 years’ confinement in trials that typically run between half an hour and an hour, said human rights investigators who have observed them. One early trial was reported to have lasted barely 10 minutes, an investigator said.
–NYTimes
Now, you morons, is there a dispute?
McLoser is a waste of time.
It’s time conservatives went our own way.
Do I hear Federalist Party?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Nope…not from me.
Pointless exercises are something I gave up long ago.
This moron happens to be a lawyer. Tell me…
what is your legal training?
As a member of the Federalist Society…
yeah, provided it wasn’t another vacant exercise in the third-party waste lands.
Even by liberal standards, frank is slippery and evasive.
My suggestion from #377 still holds.
I second #377…
Redundancy
This moron happens to be a lawyer.
Redundancy
But no answer.
And, Frank, what is your legal training…?
Isn’t McCain always right about everything?
A self-described moron/lawyer, who doesn’t seem to know the difference between a “tribunal” and the U.S.Criminal Justice System, is asking about my legal training?
frank always answers questions with either silence, or with questions, or with sophomoric insults.
There is no “there” there.
Building a new party is a great idea. The trouble is, it takes lots of money. Maybe a hundred mill or so to start. And a charismatic leader to make its case to the public.
This is a lie.
I am not a self-described moron. I merely adopted your insult to both blunt it and turn it against you.
You were too dishonest and/or witless to admit it on these posts.
But the issue isn’t the difference between a military tribunal and the criminal justice system…which is profound and of which Mr. McCain wishes to avail our enemies…
but what training, experience, or expertise you have to tell the rest of us…who manifestly know more of the subject than do you…
that we are morons in the face of your…
profound ignorance on the subject.
Try a direct answer to the question, Frank.
Otherwise, we are left to think you a moral coward…
in addition to an ignoramus.
And worst…TIME.
Our system is skewed heavily toward a two party system. It is not designed for coalition government.
I’m afraid it is constitutional in origin.
One party would almost surely have to die…
I don’t see any volunteers….