All aboard the Jive Talk Express
My syndicated column today deconstructs Barack Obama’s pitiful performance yesterday. Try as he might, he simply cannot disown the un-disownable preacher of hate. That press conference yesterday renders the Philadelphia speech from March null and void. And anyone who fell for the Philadelphia speech (unfortunately, there were several on the right side of the aisle) should feel especially embarrassed today. Try not to be fooled again.
Speaking of the Philly speech, Jeff Emanuel notes that Obama is actually selling DVDs of the speech to raise money. Yep. At the same time he was attempting to finally disown Jeremiah Wright, he was peddling his speech refusing to disown him.
Huckster.
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The Jive Talk Express
Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate 2008
Barack Obama looked pale and wan at what he called his “big press conference” about the Rev. Jeremiah Wright on Tuesday afternoon. Numb. Chastened. Defeated. Extolled for his eloquence, Obama stuttered and stammered his way through the question-and-answer session. It appeared he was having an out-of-body experience.
Who knew that the greatest threat to his presidential campaign would come from the preacher who married him, baptized him, and prayed with him? Barack Obama should have known. That’s who. Take that judgment and shove it on a pretty campaign poster.
“Yes, we can”? Try “Yes, you should have.”
For the past 24 hours, Obama’s campaign too slowly grappled with how to handle the aftermath of Wright’s whirlwind tour of hatred this weekend — from Dallas, where he decried his “public crucifixion,” to Detroit, where he entertained NAACP bigwigs with impersonations of white people, mockeries of classical music and “white” marching bands, and lectures on racial brain theories, to the National Press Club, where he preened, strutted and head-wagged his way through an hour of bitter black liberation theologizing.
At first, Obama downplayed Wright’s public appearances. But Obama now tells us he had to wait 24 hours to convene a press conference to denounce Wright’s National Press Club speech because he “hadn’t seen it.” After all this time on the campaign trail, we’re back to the Obama-as-clueless-naif narrative again. When he finally did view the Washington speech, Obama explained, he was “shocked” and “outraged” and “saddened” because “the person I saw was not the person that I’d come to know over 20 years.”
What a load of pure unadulterated horse manure. Anyone with eyes can see that Wright’s performances are finely honed, time-tested acts. His anti-white, anti-American, “imperialist”-bashing shtick was not developed overnight or over the past few years. He’s been peddling AIDS conspiracies for decades. He’s been grievance-mongering about slavery for decades. He’s been flirting with the Nation of Islam, which provided security for his speeches, for decades. He’s been a shouting left-wing radical for decades.
Obama’s best-selling Audacity of Hope is named after the first sermon of Wright’s that he heard — decades ago — in which the pastor of racial resentment inveighed against an environment “where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere.” Yet, only now has Obama concluded that Wright’s sermons are “a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth.”
Welcome to the Jive-Talk Express.
A reader of mine who is a clergyman e-mailed after Obama’s press conference: “As a pastor, I have this take: It is inconceivable that Obama had no knowledge of Wright’s views after 20 years as a member of that church. As a pastor, my heart-held, deepest beliefs and passions cannot be silenced. It is what I am. If I were given a microphone at the National Press Club, I would not speak on something that I had guardedly kept secret for most of my life. No, I would go to my main point, the center of my ministry, the core of my passion, to speak truth as I know it to be. How can Obama actually claim that this is news from his pastor? His mailman, butcher or plumber? No problem. His pastor? No way!”
It’s not Wright who has changed his loony tune.
It was just last year that Obama was telling the Chicago Tribune that Wright was his sounding board for truth: “What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.”
It was just this March, in his Philadelphia racial reconciliation speech, that Obama was urging us not to dismiss Wright as a “crank or a demagogue” and protesting that he could “no more disown him than I can disown the black community.”
Now, realizing how gravely his self-serving association with Wright has wounded his campaign, Obama himself has attempted to do both those things — and expects the American public to believe him when he weakly and belatedly asserts that “when I say I find [Wright’s] statements appalling, I mean it.”
As those of us with non-European brains might put it: You be trippin’, Barry.
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That is too funny. Got to give it to Ali, he was the man when it came to talkin’ some smack!
I think ya’ll are splitting hairs over the meaning of mistress. Whether it is femine for boss or a domination really doesn’t matter. For either followed by justice would make a vigilante.
Too little, too late. And, he doesn’t really mean it. Political realties have forced him to do it.
I see I got under your skin underseige 247(is that the one with Steven Segal?)
MM’s thread title is corny,lame, outdated sounding, white person, black mocking talk in this context.IMHO. If THAT’S racist, then I gguess I didn’t got to same sensitivity school as your MJ obsessed a$$
Good luck getting me out of your head. Hopefully you don’t take this out on your sweet Asian wife. Pimpin ain’t easy Seige, I know, I know.
peace for real this time
Umm. What would those points be?
Never heard of being the better person? Most rational, normal people would laugh off that comment, ignore it, whatever. However, you chose not only to start attacking siege but to just keep piling it on. Gotta agree with soap on this one – you do seem bitter. But I won’t suggest you need a man – too many assumptions there and I wouldn’t want to offend you.
Really? Who’s the one who continues to throw out the personal insults and really doesn’t want to debate any of BHO’s socialist policies that he would so gladly implement given the chance. I welcome that debate.
How’s that for courage? Maybe this will work better for you: I recently faced a life-threatening illness and surgery. Scared me almost senseless. Fortunately, I have wonderful health insurance (I paid $600 co-pays on a bill of over $120,000)and could get the medical care I needed without having to wait months for it. I will fight tooth and nail any attempts by BHO, HRC, or any other idiot liberal/democrat that wants to institute universal/single payer/it’s all socialist medicine. Don’t try to take my affordable health care ($30 per month premiums) from me. That enough “courage” for you? Somebody willing to fight for what they believe in, rather than whoring themself out to defend scum? Suit you? Frankly I don’t care. I don’t need you to validate me as either a conservative or a person. My choices in a lot of areas of my life validate my conservatism just nicely, thank you, and my wife and children are all the validation I need as a person.
The only thing of substance that you’ve posted here is nothing more than a tired old rehash (albiet not too cleverly re-worded) of the “Bush lied, people died (and will continue to)” mantra. Until you care to engage in reasoned, thoughtful debate on issues of real substance (health care, social security, 2nd Amendment rights to name a few), then I’ll thank you to keep the personal insults and the condescending attitude to yourself.
Otherwise, go suck eggs.
#183 rooster wrote:
Sigh.
You and I really do end here. It’s far easier to converse with the many people here who walk upright.
Another lie! Mary Katherine Hamm’s father got a call from the Obama camp the night before Obama’s Press Conference. It seems Obama needed to do a poll to test the waters!
I find it interesting how liberals can talk about our military and our current missions, yet they haven’t served, been in the Middle East, or know anybody who has served. I find it curious that instead of confronting terror head on, we’ll just “pop out” of Iraq and let the place go to hell. I’m sorry, but you, like most of the American lazyboy, second-guessing brigade, aren’t military strategists or tacticians. However, I have some questions for you and other liberals:
1) Why do you think you can speak on military matters (including Obummer) yet have no experience with such?
2) Why do you either hate or resent the US so much?
3) Why do you ignore that terrorists won’t go away just because you want them too?
4) Where do you think our oil will come from? If you think we should be no longer dependent on foreign oil, then why can’t we drill in our own back yard?
5) Do you and nyk think that whites should bow our heads, and meekly follow along while the black community demands “reparations,” “justice” and more “rights?”
6) If you’re so “open” to other opinions and political viewpoints, then why do you and nyk continually misrepresent what other posters say?
I don’t know if you and other well-intentioned liberals get it that you do not speak for the military. You may like the whole armchair quarterback routine about what’s a “good” war and what’s not, but as a military spouse, I find it insulting and disheartening.
I find yours and nyk’s take on the Iraq War to be naive, half-hearted hyperbole. I’ve heard it all the last 8 years from liberals in and out of my family. If you think that leaving Iraq will be what turns the economy around or makes things all better, well I got an empty spot where the twin towers used to be to prove you wrong.
I don’t feel any kind of respect from either you or nyk. Yet, you bleat on about our same old “talking points” yet you present the same. Want to be authentic and different? Present something that isn’t a typical liberal talking point.
mistressjustice said:
Gotta love that shuckin’ and jivin’
#46 : BAD DOG!!!
PS:
See your phat a$$ down at the Sharpton rally.
Was that really called for? Was it? Is this how you earn respect in the real world?
I’m sorry but your kind of behavior is what’s commonly found on Huff n Puff or Daily Kos.
Not to mention that you’re just downright disrespectful. Why is that?
Michelle, thoughts?
Wow i see the trolls are out in full force today (mistressjustice,nyk,lgm)..Mistressjustice i would hate to have you as my lawyer..If everyone keeps feeding the trolls they will never go away..Trolls have a tendency to believe the dribble they spew…Did Huffington and Kos let the garbage overflow this way???
#197 emjem24 wrote:
Before I answer this, can you point to any of the comments I’ve made that suggest this? Feel free to cut and paste.
Um…I’ve never (ever) once posted about the war here (except for a passing reference above to McCain’s “100 years” comment). You might be able to guess my thoughts on it, but I’m curious to see (again, I encourage cutting-and-pasting in) where I’ve once spoken about those thoughts here.
I have to say that I effectively decided it was pointless to respond to you after, just recently, you defended someone for using the term “wetback,” and then in the same breath mentioned how upset you were by having someone call you a racial slur (one would think you’d be less supportive of something that so clearly bothered you when the victim was…you)! You’ve been mostly insulting when I’ve dealt with you, and then surprised when I’ve responded in kind. The truth is, I’m happy to be respectful when I’m treated the same way. I admit that I’ve been rude (in return) to you — but you haven’t exactly taken the high road.
And as a rule, I’m not interested in talking about the war here. We can guess what each other thinks and there’s zero chance we’ll come to agree with each other, which is fine with me.
So nyk. are we any closer on agreement after the activities of the last day and a half?
emjem24 said:
This is clearly a street fight with no gravitas. I apologize if anyone else was offended. This is a case where there’s clearly a double standard on the context of the language. I believe MM used the word ‘jive’ in a dyslogistic way but not a racist way. People like MJ pick up on that and try to cash in on it as grievance and in reality it’s how she puts bread on the table. I don’t know MM from Ditka but I am 100% sure she puts up with more crap than MJ ever thought of, in fact, I don’t think MJ could handle tenth pressure MM does. This affirmative action, double standard is a spurious concept and it must stop, if it has to go to the street then so be it. Especially when liberalism it taking bread out of the mouths of people with high merit.
#204 sambo wrote:
Pardon my obtuseness…do you mean related to Obama?
consider a liftime of pardons on tht;)
yes…Obama
I was surprised by that too… it’s a racial jab done in in such a manner that when it’s picked up people say “Noo, Jive means this in the dictionary..”
Barack quite clearly and succinctly expressed his disdain for some of Wright’s views… hardly “weakly” Ms Malkin…
But belated? For sure….
#207 sambo wrote:
You’re a cheeky one, aren’t you?
Well, if you mean if I’m anti-Obama’s candidacy now, the answer would be no. The alternatives to me are far grimmer. And honestly, I couldn’t possibly vote for McCain, although for reasons quite different from those cited by most of the other people here who aren’t McCain fans.
That’s been covered Sausage. You must have some reading to catch up on.
I think i’m the first person to get a nice response from MJ
more flies with honey than vinegar, kids 
MJ, you’re right, and i agree…we need to do those things as well. I think that more to the point is the cut and run strategy, as well as the “we should never be there, lets just leave them alone and they’ll leave us alone” tactics that never work. I dont personally like the fact we have something in the neighborhood of 150,000 troops over there, as i’d like them home safe. But they are doing us a service we dont pay them enough for, and that many on the liberal side of the aisle loathe, complain about, and seek to undo because of a lack of anything resembling a spine. Having troops there, while incurring a cost, is a deterant, much like having an increased police presence in troubled neighborhoods or high crime areas. You send the police (troops) to where the crime (jihad) is, and it discourages them from commiting acts. This is evidenced by the drastic reduction of bombings and violence that occured after the surge went into place.
I would hate to see the work of all of those brave folks undone by someone stepping into the white house and bringing them all home without the area being more stable than it is presently.
How many times have you accused me or others of generalizing about race and especially the black community when pointing out what seems to be the practice of “victimhood” or the “victim cult.” Do you deny this?
How many times have other liberals on this same blog made the same pointless misrepresentation of McCain’s comment (which was off the cuff anyway)? Did you not tacitly agree with MJ’s assertion of leaving Iraq by making yet another snarky comment about her “quitting.” Do you deny that? I really don’t care what your thoughts are on the war, given that you seem to think that blog contributors “generalize” about race.
The wetback remark was made to demonstrate both the resistance to PC permissiveness but also to show people’s total frustration and anger over illegal immigration. It is all used by the Latino community just as the ‘n’ word is used by the black community.
When I’m so thoroughly disrespected by a minority student whom I’m teaching, and have treated respectfully, the kind of racial epithets coming from a student is quite shocking. I defend the wetback remark because of the double standards appled toward the “majority culture” by minority communities when discussing race.
In terms of respect, nyk, you often are quite snarky to others besides myself and you know it. You’ve admitted it. When you make thoughtless, ill-considered remarks, do you not think you’ll be challenged in kind? It’s intersting how you assert I didn’t take the high road when you did yourself no favors with other blog participants.
I think you haven’t been upfront about a lot of your viewpoints. If you’re proud of them, share them. Do you not want things just one way for yourself? Given respect but you don’t have to return that expectation?
For someone who feels like they’re misunderstood, you tend to see yourself as multidimensional and the rest of us as only one-dimensional. When you get off your hypocrisy kick, perhaps, there will be something that smacks of honesty coming from you instead of simplistic platitudes.
huh?
Well, if you mean if I’m anti-Obama’s candidacy now
there is plenty of time for that!
Now nobody in their “right” mind would vote for Obama.
I agree — I have pointed out when people have generalized, and when they’ve been overtly racist. But you asked if I thought “whites should bow our heads, and meekly follow along while the black community demands “reparations,” “justice” and more “rights?”” I’ve never suggested such a thing, and I welcomed you to point out where I did(n’t).
And maybe it’s the circles we move in, but I just don’t know any of the people you describe. All the black people (and frankly, most of the people in general) I know went to private school and liberal arts or ivy league colleges and have widely diverse groups of friends. They really don’t spend much time talking about reparations. But our experiences may be different.
Well, if you support the use of racial slurs, you can’t really be offended when they’re used against you.
Okay. Then, that’s settled.
Okay, then you support using racial slurs. I don’t. We agree to disagree. The end.
You should follow your own advice. When you’re rude, I’m rude. If you’re civil, so am I. That’s as simple as I can make it.
Um…I don’t know what you’re talking about. I honestly don’t. I’m hiding my viewpoints?
I don’t feel misunderstood, I just disagree politically with a lot of what’s said on this blog. But there’s a bigger world out there, and people don’t always agree. That’s just the way it is.
Mallard
Even a duck can get it right!
Drone
Until you’re willing to lecture your fellow conservatives on name calling, then you lack courage. Just because you show some courage in a personal health crisis doesn’t mean you show it on the blogs.
You accuse me of piling on Seige? Read up the thread and look at Seige’s piling on. You try to act like you’re all wise, and knowing….above it all. But you engage in double standards. If you expect liberals(trolls, eyeroll) to take personal insults and move on just cause you say so, you’re nuts, and have double standards. I don’t play the double standard game. Any honest reader of this blog knows that I’ll treat another commenter with respect, if I receive the same. I even laugh off some stuff. Start lecturing your own, or you have no crediblity, or courage.
You are also lying about my discussion of the issues. I discuss the specific, relevant, topical issues on the threads, and have had back n forths. Yes, when things get off topic and turn into pissing matches, yes I will take part from time to time. I’m no little sissy victim, and I’ll take care of myself any way I see fit. You have not said a word to Seige, which is telling and predictable.
But here is the best part. You end your whole hypocritical diatribe with this:
Phony much?
Yet there are blacks out there who think that they should receive more “pity,” “reparations,” and “exceptions.” Do you not see that?
You reflect an upper middle class crowd. I live in a mixed socioeconomic, black community where there are just as many havenots as haves. Most of the blacks I’ve met in the community I live in Hampton Roads, VA have some sort of conflict with either a) police b) the government, c) Pres. Bush. I get a share of it where I am.
Unfortunately, you don’t live in the community I live in. I see a LOT of truant kids (from the black community) roaming around. I never used to see that. Now it’s pretty common. You circulate in a different socio/economic setting. Your diversity outlook is a joke.
Then, there’s this insightful liberal logic to consider:
and
How does the inappropriate behavior of a former student of mine have anything to do with my support of the “wetback” term? You are very overly sensitive about race yet, it seems that if race isn’t approached with a light touch, you will be offended. Yet you reflect what appears to be a privileged upbringing. For someone who says that they aren’t on the “victim bandwagon” or believe in it, you certainly object when someone uses the term “wetback” who isn’t a member of that community. Why the double standard.
If you think that wetback is some form of extreme racial slur, then where do you fall in terms of the “n” word? Why do blacks get to use it but it’s totally off limits for anyone else.
I would also like to know what and what’s not a racial slur in your estimation? Who gets to decide? You? My great-grandfather got called a Mick (he was an Irish immigrant) and he shrugged it off. Where do the boundaries start and end and who gets to determine them?
When have you been civil when it’s not MJ? When? Please point this out.
You’ve even admitted you are deliberately rude to posters. How are you taking the higher ground? If being liberal is so fun… your racial outrage is a good indicator that you either indulge in the victim culture or you take sides. Which is it?
Uh, big DUH there. Well, I think you hide behind a lot of racial sensitivity to the point race isn’t even in the conversation. I don’t think you’re always honest. This was the first hint any of us got at your socio-economic profile. Since I don’t think you’re as likely as a propensity of blacks to live in poverty (Rusty likes to point this out to me), your experience is not shared by others of the black community.
No, when I see you misrepresent stuff that McCain has said and which wasn’t seriously meant I do think you have a bit of a problem actually threshing out your viewpoint.
Emjem.
You’ll find some of your answers by reading my posts(Rooster,Alaska,and Abstract didn’t have trouble following along). Particularly, you will see my views about Islamic Jihadists. Sorry if it doesn’t fit into your anti-liberal diatribe of waste. Nyk, and I are not twins, nor do we share each other’s views, or the views of all other liberals. Most of your post directed at me is a standard rant for Strawwoman. From here on out, try blockquoting me when you reference my words, otherwise you wind up looking confused, dishonest and rambling. hattip Nyk.
I do know people who have served, no I haven’t served, and no I haven’t been to the Middle East. If that disqualifies me from talking about foreign affairs then, I guess other conservtatives that are 1 of 3, also aren’t allowed to type on.(According to your asinine qualfications test). This is a blog, our views will not directly impact American lives except by way of vote..we are not generals, your standard is just plain silly.
Your attacks on NYK are just a head scratcher to me, and acting like you should be immune from claims of generalizing when such claims sometimes fit is extremely delusional and arrogant.
You don’t respect me, well, that’s okay, I think I’ll be okay Emjem.::)))
Please remember to blockquote me to maintain some level of honesty and accuracy. Night, hon.
mistressjuicehead said:
Get this load of this sh*t (I mean jivin’). Try minding your own business race-baiter. It’s not up to you to determine what people do on this blog. You need meds or something; lemme guess if you go another hour you’ll bang your head against the wall. Lol.
#218 emjem24 wrote:
There are people of all kinds who believe lots of things. I’m just less willing than you are to assume that so many people can be categorized as a monolithic group. That’s not my experience, and experience defines your worldview.
Um…in connection with this story, you’ve consistently talked about how awful it was to be called a racial slur. Then, you defended the use of racial slurs by another commenter here. Surely, the irony isn’t completely lost on you. I’m just saying, if you’re for that sort of thing, then bully for you! But don’t complain when you’re on the receiving end.
Also…you’re the one that has brought it up EVERYtime race has come up.
No, I just don’t believe in tossing off racist terms. We differ there. That’s not radical or crazy or breaking new ground, really. You should get out more — there are actually a lot of people who aren’t so into it, either.
Because I believe people are people. Why would I only care about someone’s rights if they were a member of my race? I’m not so narrow in my thinking.
I’ve never spoken to someone who finds the idea of NOT using racial slurs so unusual!
Look it up. I know what I consider racial slurs, and what society at large considers racial slurs, and I don’t use them. It’s very basic.
Um…I know a lot of black people (and a lot of people in general) who share my experience. There’s no single definition of a “group” experience.
It’s never come up. Should I be going on and on about private schooling and trips to Europe? Why? It’s not called “hiding” it’s called “being on topic.”
And we’ve gotten way off it…
#219 mistress wrote:
I’m confident we’ll all live…
Drone, get your boy, nows your time to step up.
Mj repeats.
Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn.
nyk:
You amaze me. Can I have a copy of your new book?
mistressjuicehead said:
Yeh well my asian wife will be playing me Mozart all night long.
I’m curious what you’ll do when you get home, uncuff him from the basement?
Most posters when they quote someone “typical angry black woman” they at least put most of it in original form.
Here comes the Butt Monkey. But, what can we expect from someone who probably grew up in a professional grievance monger family learning to hate America.
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Hope I can sleep tonight.
All together now…..
“Young folks, old folks, everybody come
Join the Darkie Sunday School, and have a lot of fun,
Please check your chewing gum and raisins at the door,
And you’ll hear some Bible stories that you’ve never heard before.”
nyk said:
If most of the people you know went to private schools & ivy league colleges, well, that is not a very diverse background. That does explain your liberal outlook, though.
And yeah, there is a lot of nastiness and name-calling on this site – way too much. That is unfortunate, but I guess that is the reality of the Internet.
I prefer the teachings of “turn the other cheek” and not to “pay back evil for evil to anyone.” There is a time for biting comments, and even name-calling, but not name-calling for the sake of being mean or petty vengeance.
#228 Trollman wrote:
Truth be told, my (private) high school was incredibly conservative (and Christian). It’s actually a big part of why I chose to go to Oberlin for college. I think I’d have turned out liberal either way, honestly.
True and true.
It’s a good tenet, but not always easy to follow. For now, though, I’ve decided to ignore the most ridiculous posters (I think you probably know exactly who I mean, because there really is a standout in this area) and only deal with the people who have something of substance to say.
nyk said:
Nyk needs a good ol’ fashioned hazing. I went to an elite school and I know this type. Nyk is one of those passively boorish and aloof graduates who sucked up the socialism like a sponge. Notice how anything he says has no thrust and lacks any affability. This is the typical mindset that the Ivy schools turn out; it’s beyond the ken of “ordinary” people- or that’s what they would like you to think. I must say I enjoy MJ’s strident remarks more than anything nyk would have to say. Nyk is an armchair thinker and his comments fit the tone accordingly.
siege, he is a she
rooster said:
Sounds like a he, it must be subterfuge.
#230-underseige247
Very, very well put. Kudos to you.
lgm,mistressjustice. One in the same?
#232 undrseige247 wrote:
…or maybe you’re projecting your homoerotic fantasies on me. I’ve heard about what goes on with those “hazings” you so highly recommend. Guess you really enjoyed yours.
Sigh. And here I thought I’d take the high road.
I understand that leaving a church that you consider to be part of your family is difficult but life isn’t supposed to be easy. I was a lifelong Catholic, educated in Catholic schools from pre-school through college but left the church after seven, that’s right, seven priests that I had either as teachers, school administrators or known through the church were involved in the church sex abuse scandal. I couldn’t stay in a place where these men had abused children for years and had been getting away with it while their superiors looked the other way. One of the priests married several friends of mine, baptized their children and said the funeral mass for my grandmother when she passed away. Leaving was a very hard thing to do but I had to do it. I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t. I don’t know why Obama just didn’t leave. I don’t think he believes what Wright has spewed but it shouldn’t have taken this long for him to denounce him.
I’m not into that Brokeback Mounting garbage and I sure as hell wasn’t a frat boy.
Everything that’s happening is a plan to get Hillary elected. Have the MSM make sure the GOP gets the weakest candidate possible, then have a really radical left wing candidate battle Hillary for the Dem nomination, making her look reasonable and presidential by comparison. Hillarys is on O’Reilly right now, and the contrast between her and Obama is all in her favor.
The grand plan of the slickest pair of politicians in history is about to come to fruition.
McCain better pray the Dems are afraid to toss out Bama.
After Iran detonates a nuclear device (affectionatly called “the Bill A”), B Hussein O will suspend talks. After the second device, B Hussein O will disavow the Reverend Big Mahmoud A, his Spirital Advisor Du Jour.
I would just love to see this as an ad/YouTube:
FIRST SCENE: Clip from Obama saying, “I can no more disavow Rev. Wright than I can…”
SECOND SCENE: Clip from Obama just a few days ago, “I was shocked. I reject this [bla bla bla]…”
THIRD SCENE: Clip from Obama saying skeptically, “Just words?!”
ANNOUNCER VOICE: “Truly more than just words. Words of someone who does not deserve to be President.”
nyk said:
My point was, it is easy to hold certain viewpoints when you are removed from the situation.
Take someone rich like Ted Kennedy or John McCain. No matter what happens with the issue of illegal immigration, they won’t have to deal with the nitty gritty of reality.
Now contrast that with my experience. I lived in a certain apartment complex in a border state for 4 years. The crime was pretty bad. The apartment complex initially was filled with working class families and poor college students.
Over the next couple of years, the demographics of the apartments changed. Now there were large groups of young to middle age Hispanic men who spoke little to no English hanging outside your door in the parking lot. They spent a lot of time just standing around drinking beer, leaving beer bottles all over the place. Not exactly the kind of environment you want when you have a wife and small children.
It has been my experience that everyone believes in something, whether it be God or something else. Many of those who reject God nevertheless feel the need to prove they are morally good. So you end up with people who say it is inhumane to enforce immigration laws, but it is the most noble of rights to be able to kill one’s unborn child. Views that make no sense and are completely detached from “reality.”
I’m listening to Wright’s clips that weren’t played by the media. It’s an unadulterated 50lb sack of vitriol, flies included.
Trollman said:
You might as well be talking to tree. Nyk live in a “palace” and really doesn’t have that problem and could care less. But she’ll tell you you’re wrong, you should be multicultural and accept diversity. The Hispanics get drunk publicly and throw garbage on the street as part of their cultural heritage; how dare you show contempt for their culture. She’ll tell you all of this liberal tripe until it comes to her neighborhood.
What I want to know, is Obama going to disown his grandmother now? Because he said he could no more disown Wright than his own grandmother. So, what about it?
Hit the nail on the head girlfriend! This isn’t new stuff to either Wright or Obama.
It’s official: Wright’s under the bus with Grandma. Poor Grandma! Wright deserves it.
Of course I remind you, Obama, Mr. Good Judge of Character, is the guy who tells us that he can sit down and talk with Iran and North Korea. Will he tells us for 20 years they are good guys too?
Obama is more naive than my son at a strip bar. My son would not pay for the spectacle for 22 years.
He gave 25k to Rev. Wright??
I wouldn’t mind some of that dough!
Send me some Barry!
mistressjustice:
Perhaps you missed the point of my post. I suggested that you might TRY to be the bigger person in the whole “insult” game – but no, you have insisted on continuing down that path. I can only conclude that you take some kind of perverse pleasure in provoking others into personal confrontation.
Call me lacking in courage. Fine. But you missed the point there as well. My statements on “courage” had nothing to do with facing a medical crisis. They had everything to do with my willingness to fight for something I believe it – the free market system in regards to health care. I invited you to debate that topic, as well as others (Social security, 2nd Amendment) and would still welcome an honest debate based on logic and reason. You have chosen instead to lecture me on the fine points of “I thought he was going to insult me, so I insulted him back first”.
You’re right. My last statement was somewhat childish – however, I used your thought process when I formulated that response: I was insulted, so I insulted back.
Like I said – childish. So no more personal insults from me. I would still welcome thoughtful, reasoned debate on subjects of substance and Obama’s stances on them: Health care, economic policy, energy policy, social security, 2nd amendment rights. How about it? You purport to be a public defender, can you defend Obama’s socialist stances on these issues?
There’s your challenge. I’m willing to admit that I should have left you alone in your insult matches and tried to engage you solely on issues. Are you willing to be engaged solely on those issues and leave the rest of it behind?
GovernmentDrone.
Answer yes.
I used to be a Public Defender, but I now represent Death Row inmates in post-conviction and handle criminal law cases in private practice.
I don’t want to go down a laundry list of Obama’s positions, but next time it’s the topic of a thread, I’d gladly discuss the issues with you.(note, SS problems are not an area of interest to me, but I should look to change that) I broadly mentioned above why I feel McCain’s Iraq policy is a mistake. I rarely hold grudges. Good day to you.