All aboard the Jive Talk Express

By Michelle Malkin  •  April 30, 2008 07:33 AM

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My syndicated column today deconstructs Barack Obama’s pitiful performance yesterday. Try as he might, he simply cannot disown the un-disownable preacher of hate. That press conference yesterday renders the Philadelphia speech from March null and void. And anyone who fell for the Philadelphia speech (unfortunately, there were several on the right side of the aisle) should feel especially embarrassed today. Try not to be fooled again.

Speaking of the Philly speech, Jeff Emanuel notes that Obama is actually selling DVDs of the speech to raise money. Yep. At the same time he was attempting to finally disown Jeremiah Wright, he was peddling his speech refusing to disown him.

Huckster.

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The Jive Talk Express
Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate 2008

Barack Obama looked pale and wan at what he called his “big press conference” about the Rev. Jeremiah Wright on Tuesday afternoon. Numb. Chastened. Defeated. Extolled for his eloquence, Obama stuttered and stammered his way through the question-and-answer session. It appeared he was having an out-of-body experience.

Who knew that the greatest threat to his presidential campaign would come from the preacher who married him, baptized him, and prayed with him? Barack Obama should have known. That’s who. Take that judgment and shove it on a pretty campaign poster.

“Yes, we can”? Try “Yes, you should have.”

For the past 24 hours, Obama’s campaign too slowly grappled with how to handle the aftermath of Wright’s whirlwind tour of hatred this weekend — from Dallas, where he decried his “public crucifixion,” to Detroit, where he entertained NAACP bigwigs with impersonations of white people, mockeries of classical music and “white” marching bands, and lectures on racial brain theories, to the National Press Club, where he preened, strutted and head-wagged his way through an hour of bitter black liberation theologizing.

At first, Obama downplayed Wright’s public appearances. But Obama now tells us he had to wait 24 hours to convene a press conference to denounce Wright’s National Press Club speech because he “hadn’t seen it.” After all this time on the campaign trail, we’re back to the Obama-as-clueless-naif narrative again. When he finally did view the Washington speech, Obama explained, he was “shocked” and “outraged” and “saddened” because “the person I saw was not the person that I’d come to know over 20 years.”

What a load of pure unadulterated horse manure. Anyone with eyes can see that Wright’s performances are finely honed, time-tested acts. His anti-white, anti-American, “imperialist”-bashing shtick was not developed overnight or over the past few years. He’s been peddling AIDS conspiracies for decades. He’s been grievance-mongering about slavery for decades. He’s been flirting with the Nation of Islam, which provided security for his speeches, for decades. He’s been a shouting left-wing radical for decades.

Obama’s best-selling Audacity of Hope is named after the first sermon of Wright’s that he heard — decades ago — in which the pastor of racial resentment inveighed against an environment “where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere.” Yet, only now has Obama concluded that Wright’s sermons are “a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth.”

Welcome to the Jive-Talk Express.

A reader of mine who is a clergyman e-mailed after Obama’s press conference: “As a pastor, I have this take: It is inconceivable that Obama had no knowledge of Wright’s views after 20 years as a member of that church. As a pastor, my heart-held, deepest beliefs and passions cannot be silenced. It is what I am. If I were given a microphone at the National Press Club, I would not speak on something that I had guardedly kept secret for most of my life. No, I would go to my main point, the center of my ministry, the core of my passion, to speak truth as I know it to be. How can Obama actually claim that this is news from his pastor? His mailman, butcher or plumber? No problem. His pastor? No way!”

It’s not Wright who has changed his loony tune.

It was just last year that Obama was telling the Chicago Tribune that Wright was his sounding board for truth: “What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice. He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.”

It was just this March, in his Philadelphia racial reconciliation speech, that Obama was urging us not to dismiss Wright as a “crank or a demagogue” and protesting that he could “no more disown him than I can disown the black community.”

Now, realizing how gravely his self-serving association with Wright has wounded his campaign, Obama himself has attempted to do both those things — and expects the American public to believe him when he weakly and belatedly asserts that “when I say I find [Wright’s] statements appalling, I mean it.”

As those of us with non-European brains might put it: You be trippin’, Barry.

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  1. #305993
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:13 am, mistressjustice said:

    30 pieces,nothing racist was implied. My whole point has a racial component, and that sure as hell doesn’t mean I’m calling Malkin a racist. Seriously. An afrocentric blog could paint Obama in the same stereotypical manner, and it wouldn’t be racist, but lame, pointless and stupid. Hillary, McCain and Romney would never be accused of jive talkin. This blog entry isn’t racist, and nor have I accused it of such. You can bet you sweet one there is a “racial” connotation, that isn’t racist, but rather cringe worthy and dumb.

    I have said repeatedly that the Wright issue can sink Obama, I think he’s handling things much better, but way late. Will I vote for him over John effing McCain? Yes, in a hearbeat. Every election in my lifetime has come down to the lesser of 2 evils. Wrightgate doesn’t bother me as much as a 3rd Bush term in my weighing process.

  2. #306000
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:15 am, dankitti said:

    Try not to be fooled again.

    Thank you, Pete Townshend!

    we won’t get fooled again. =}

  3. #306009
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:18 am, undrseige247 said:

    mistressjustice said:

    Jive Talk? I know Obama is half-black, but Jive Talk? What is this 1978, and even then his words wouldn’t be considered jive talk.

    Mrs. Malkin you have officially morphed into an outdated, corny white person.

    Jive talk is speech that bogus, false, or untrue coined in the 1930’s and 40’s by African Jazz musicians. There’s really no pejorative meaning to the word unless you’re a PC racist like yourself.

    I happen to white and with an Asian woman working on a PhD in piano performance in NYC. She has had so many troubles from racist, liberal scum like you it makes my blood boil. What is it with you people? Anyone who’s an Asian and a cut above the rest has to be torn down, especially if they’ll quite normal and not weird like Yoko Ono.
    Give MM a break it’s not her fault for being born smarter than you.

  4. #306010
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:18 am, nyk said:

    #94 mistress wrote:

    Hillary, McCain and Romney would never be accused of jive talkin.

    Sure. Although, far, far, far worse things regularly appear in the comments on this blog.

    Will I vote for him over John effing McCain? Yes, in a heartbeat. Wrightgate doesn’t bother me as much as a 3rd Bush term in my weighing process.

    Not up for spending 100 years in Iraq, huh? What a quitter you are…

  5. #306016
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am, WarTip said:

    It does not matter how little room is left under the bus.

    In a Conservative camp, we ask someone who has does something wrong to jump under the bus on their own, in accordance with their guilt or even many times, only because of the appearance of their guilt.

    (Was Scooter Libby’s inability to recall any worse a case of perjury than Bill Clinton’s I did not have hanky panky with that woman – claim to perjury fame)

    The dems only resort to throwing someone under the bus when it is the politically expedient thing to do at the time.
    No matter how crowded it gets under there, there will be many more people thrown under there soon enough.

  6. #306024
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    30 pieces,nothing racist was implied. My whole point has a racial component, and that sure as hell doesn’t mean I’m calling Malkin a racist.

    Excellent.

    Seriously. An afrocentric blog could paint Obama in the same stereotypical manner, and it wouldn’t be racist, but lame, pointless and stupid. Hillary, McCain and Romney would never be accused of jive talkin.

    If they were would you be here arguing against it?

    This blog entry isn’t racist, and nor have I accused it of such. You can bet you sweet one there is a “racial” connotation, that isn’t racist, but rather cringe worthy and dumb.

    ok…

    I have said repeatedly that the Wright issue can sink Obama, I think he’s handling things much better, but way late. Will I vote for him over John effing McCain? Yes, in a hearbeat. Every election in my lifetime has come down to the lesser of 2 evils. Wrightgate doesn’t bother me as much as a 3rd Bush term in my weighing process.

    I know I am stating the obvious here. But it’s your vote and you can do whatever you want with it.

  7. #306026
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

    I’m starting to smell a BIG rat…
    I found this buried deep in a article on the CBSNews website:
    …”In a New York Times profile of the Obama-Wright relationship in April 2007, Wright himself predicted such a split based on the controversial remarks that were already under some scrutiny. “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright told the paper over a year ago. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.
    And I thought Professional Wrestling was fake…

  8. #306030
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:26 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Bob,
    The plot thickens…

    Either way Obie is sunk… You are the weakest link – Goodbye!

  9. #306034
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am, retro said:

    Don’t know who originally said it, but it’s fast becoming one of my favorite quotes and seems quite appropos here:

    “Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.”

  10. #306035
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am, franksalterego said:

    Headline:

    Economy grows by 0.6 percent in first quarter.

    hmmmm

    I keep hearing the “R” word…I was always under the impression, that to be in a recession meant negative growth.

    could be wrong

  11. #306040
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:29 am, DBNinKY said:

    That honor falls to the “God hates fags” conservative Christian movement.

    FOUL! Out of CONTEXT! The sermons to which you refer were specifically against homosexuality – not homosexuals.

    ———————-
    Awesome article, MM! Those are my two favorite lines.

    “Yes, we can”? Try “Yes, you should have.”

    “when I say I find [Wright’s] statements appalling, I mean it.”

  12. #306041
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am, mistressjustice said:

    Underseig247:
    Where have I insulted the Asian community or your wife?
    Now I’m tearing your wife down? Funny, silly, stupid, stupid, man. Your wife is probably barely handing on with meds trying to deal with you on a daily basis.
    Quit being your Asian wife’s victim by proxy. I thought the right loathed victimhood. If you believe Malkin was thinking WW2 area jazz musicians when this blog started, and if you think she’d ever accuse a white candidate of jive talkin, I’ll send your sign in the mail.

  13. #306055
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    About MM and “jive”: if she uses a word she knows will be taken as an insult, she’s deliberately insulting.

    Hexadecimal said (#80):

    A rather goodly portion of our current gas prices are state and federal taxes. Taking those taxes away will…

    reduce the price!

    That’s what economists left and right say won’t happen. The high price of gas is because we lack refinery capacity. The price is determined by supply (maxed out) and demand (decreasing as price increases). Reduce taxes and the price won’t change. All that will happen is oil company profits will increase.

    J S Ragman said (#87): on the character issue:

    Having to answer tough questions about a radical preacher = five-and-a-half years of torture in a POW camp.

    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league. Yes, McCain was a good soldier, but he’s a crummy Senator and would make a crummy President.

  14. #306062
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am, ajmontana said:

    lgm said:
    About MM and “jive”: if she uses a word she knows will be taken as an insult, she’s deliberately insulting.

    Who are you Karnak today?

  15. #306063
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am, sambo said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am, mistressjustice said:
    If you believe Malkin was thinking WW2 area jazz musicians when this blog started, and if you think she’d ever accuse a white candidate of jive talkin, I’ll send your sign in the mail.

    The sign of a true lib…they want to be the ‘intention police’.

  16. #306074
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:42 am, granite said:

    #100 On April 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am, Bob in Myrtle Beach:

    Interesting!

    See above posts #s 24 & 64.

  17. #306076
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:43 am, sambo said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:
    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league.

    Which one was the honest answeer?
    - I have never heard hime say….
    - I have on occasion heard him say something I didn’t agree with
    ect.ect.ect

  18. #306082
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:44 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league. Yes, McCain was a good soldier, but he’s a crummy Senator and would make a crummy President.

    I’d take McCain’s 20 year Senate voting record over Obama’s award for the most present votes any day of the week.

  19. #306084
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am, abstractmind said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:
    About MM and “jive”: if she uses a word she knows will be taken as an insult, she’s deliberately insulting.

    Show of hands for those offended…..didnt think so.

    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league. Yes, McCain was a good soldier, but he’s a crummy Senator and would make a crummy President.

    We can agree, McShamnesty would be a full blown disaster. His stances on several issues make me cringe.

    But I think it’s disingenuous to paint O-blah-ma the poster child for truth telling. The very issues surrounding him about Wright cast him in less than a perfectly honest light. Hillary misspoke, but he’s just not paying attention for 20 years in church and elsewhere from his mentor and inspiration for his book?

    Hardly.

  20. #306087
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am, governmentdrone said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league.

    /snort

    lgm, do you listen to the utter drivel that comes out of your mouth? Or do you believe it when you say that Obama gives “honest answers”? Don’t bother answering that, it’s a rhetorical question.

    On April 30th, 2008 at 10:06 am, mistressjustice said:

    There’s no laws against being outdated and weak.

    Nor are there any against being a kool-aid drinking libtard.

    Mistress, you don’t even qualify for the distinction of being called a liberal. Your arguments are generally poorly constructed and reliant on personal attacks. For example:

    Funny, silly, stupid, stupid, man. Your wife is probably barely handing on with meds trying to deal with you on a daily basis.

    If you’d care to join the real world and debate issues based on logic and reason, you might be welcomed by the posters. Heck, you might find that you could change some people’s minds on some points. It’s been done by other liberals that post here.

    Otherwise, I’m sure your billy goat and bridge miss you terribly.

  21. #306089
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    P.S. only liberals like you think his answers were honest. The only honest thing said in the Wright-Obama flap of late was when Wright said that Obama is only saying what he is because he is a politician and wants to win the election.

    Sounds hardly honest to me. But then again there is that whole brick wall thing.

  22. #306088
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am, fluffy said:

    It seems that gasoline taxes are collected at the pump. If that is the case, a federal gas tax holiday will most likely result in a drop of at least $0.15

    Retail gasoline sales is a very competitive business. The station that sells for the lowest price will do the highest volume of business.

  23. #306094
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:48 am, Azygos said:

    The Democrats are starting to send up the ballons in the press that Obama cannot win in the national election now

    It’s almost as if we’re seeing pigs fly.

    ducks and runs

  24. #306104
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:51 am, sambo said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am, alaskangrizzly said:
    P.S. only liberals like you think his answers were honest. The only honest thing said in the Wright-Obama flap of late was when Wright said that Obama is only saying what he is because he is a politician and wants to win the election.

    I disagree AG. I believe the ‘rev’ has been totally honest with us with everything he has said. B HO on the other hand is a different story.

  25. #306106
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:51 am, chapoutier said:
  26. #306110
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am, sleepneat said:

    Playin’ the dozens. The idiot rhyming of sentences like a TV pimp, Jeremiah Wright is a clown with his exaggerated southern accent and pimp demeanor. Reminds me of when Richard Pryor did the Black Preacher bit on his records, funny parodies yes, but Wright’s act isn’t funny at all because people buy into it. Glowbama now knows how much Wright has offended Whitey and is in damage control mode. Will it work? With white-guilt-ridden Liberals and the Left Wing Media it will, but with those who use logic and common sense, sheeeit man we weren’t fooled in the first place, you know what I’m sayin’?

  27. #306118
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am, undrseige247 said:

    mistressjustice said:

    Underseig247:
    Where have I insulted the Asian community or your wife?
    Now I’m tearing your wife down? Funny, silly, stupid, stupid, man. Your wife is probably barely handing on with meds trying to deal with you on a daily basis.
    Quit being your Asian wife’s victim by proxy. I thought the right loathed victimhood. If you believe Malkin was thinking WW2 area jazz musicians when this blog started, and if you think she’d ever accuse a white candidate of jive talkin, I’ll send your sign in the mail.

    You insult yourself by even being here but I guess we need morons around to abuse every now and then. Of course, you could probably get a PhD yourself only it wouldn’t be by merit but a quota and spoon fed to you. I think MM has a better command of language than you and knows what she meant. It’s so easy for pea-brains to get rattled especially when living off the dole; Springer is only on once a day. So quit jivin’ me shuga, my momma didn’t raise no dummy, youz betta take yo’ ass to the sto.

  28. #306130
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:58 am, J S Ragman said:

    Being willing to give honest answers puts Obama out of McCain’s league.

    OK, then when is he going to start?

    Yes, McCain was a good soldier, but he’s a crummy Senator and would make a crummy President.

    Just your opinion, which many other posters here probably share. But I would think “the Maverick”, who has reached across the aisle so many times would have you libs salivating.

    One more thing, I’m not a McCain fan, but we do share the same alma mater. And the Naval Academy does have a little thing called the Honor Concept, which states that a midshipman does not lie, cheat , or steal. That is something that is drilled into us from day one, and eventually becomes part of our DNA. While on active military service, officers are expected to tell the truth, about where they are, what their equipment status is, and what the condition of their men is. Life-and-death decisions are often made on what you say. Maybe McCain’s years in the Senate have twisted that concept around a bit, but I would venture to say that his years in the Senate were not as radically shaped as Obama’s years in the Reverend Wright’s church.

  29. #306133
    On April 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am, lgm said:

    fluffy said (#115):

    It seems that gasoline taxes are collected at the pump. If that is the case, a federal gas tax holiday will most likely result in a drop of at least $0.15

    That’s not what economists say. With demand so high and supply fixed, there is no incentive to compete on price.

  30. #306146
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Governmentdrone:
    I see you conveniently left out the fact that my rather mild personal attacks were in response to being called scum. A little intellectual honesty would be nice Gd. If I’m personally insulted, I will generally insult back. Got it. If I’m treated respectfully, I will return the favor.

    Nyk, I see you smell what I’m cookin.
    I know some liberals have mischaracterized McCain’s 100yrs statement. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, and still suggest he’s crazy. The Middle East isn’t Germany or Japan. The Middle East in the heart of the Islamic Jihadist movement, and it frigtens me that J. SIDNEY. M. thinks that we can just lolygag around there for decades like it’s the equivalent of Germany or Japan. A military presence there means perpetual war. I think the man is a hawk, irrational, and will make a disasterous president.

  31. #306152
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, chief said:

    Right on the money as usual. Thank you for once again saying what so many of us would, if we had the platform.

  32. #306156
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, undrseige247 said:

    I think the man is a hawk, irrational, and will make a disasterous president.

    At least he doesn’t jive-talk

  33. #306158
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, chris3cube said:

    For Obamas information:
    J.Wright is a ungrateful nutcase.
    The USA declared independence from England.
    The Titanic did not make it to New York.
    US astronauts landed on the moon.
    New advances in technology include: the wheel, fire and yes… medical advances too, namely A HEARING AID.

  34. #306164
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, chapoutier said:

    Wait….

    McCain’s middle name is Sidney? Seriously?

    Sounds like a teasippingcallingsoccerfootballmonarchylovinglimey name to me.

  35. #306165
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, fluffy said:

    lgm @ 11:59

    That’s not what economists say. With demand so high and supply fixed, there is no incentive to compete on price.

    As an expert in purchasing retail gasoline, I strongly disagree. There are plenty of outlets that depend gasoline sales for their profits. They have great incentive to compete. If one outlet cuts their price, others follow their lead. I see it happen all the time.

  36. #306170
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, flenser said:

    I wonder if you could say that the words “jive talk” would ever be used for McCain, Hillary, Romney

    Wright is the one who argues that black and white brains are wired differently, and that blacks and whites think and talk differently as a result. Malkin is just skewering that way of thinking.

  37. #306178
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Undreseige
    Practicing the law doesn’t require a PHD. Your wife should be proud though, and I do pity her. I’d be embarrassed by your lame pimping of her. There are lots of accomplished people on this thread. Act like you been there before, okay boy?
    I’ll agree MM new what she meant.

    I do still watch Springer during lunch breaks or sick days. I like studying your kind. It’s a mezmerizing education in social misfits, inferiority complexes and losers in general. Please let us all know next time you’re on.

  38. #306200
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    I do still watch Springer during lunch breaks or sick days. I like studying your kind. It’s a mezmerizing education in social misfits, inferiority complexes and losers in general.

    Aren’t most people who go on Springer the “social misfits” who dropped out of school, are on some form of government assistance, and complain that they aren’t getting enough freebies and that work is for suckers?

    Sounds like people who vote Democrat to me. Last I checked conservatives were all about independence, a strong work ethic, agree that education is the key out of ignorance, and fight the expansion of the government and social programs that feed a continual class of people in poverty and ignorance.

  39. #306215
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, DBNinKY said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, fluffy said:

    As an expert in purchasing retail gasoline, I strongly disagree. There are plenty of outlets that depend gasoline sales for their profits. They have great incentive to compete. If one outlet cuts their price, others follow their lead. I see it happen all the time.

    You’re exactly right, Fluffy. The same thing happens in my part of the country with gasoline, diesel and even milk; when one place drops the price, the others have to follow or lose customers.

    It seems strange though, that a liberal would argue this point with you, as yours is virtually the same argument they use against Wal-mart expansion, claiming it puts Mom and Pop stores out of business because they can’t compete with the lower prices.

  40. #306216
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, undrseige247 said:

    mistressjustice said:

    Practicing the law doesn’t require a PHD.

    A blowhard defense lawyer obviously, high in the realm of “accomplishment.” Scum of the earth lawyers, see I was right. If you think I’m pimping my wife maybe you can defend me in court, I’m sure you have pleny o’ experience defending pimps. Take your act somewhere else quota woman.

  41. #306221
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, mistressjustice said:

    #130
    I don’t know who Underseige votes for. Perhaps Jerry will ask him next time he’s on, and he can lead the Star Spangled Banner sign-along while shirtless from fighting his uncle or brother, or Uncluther.

  42. #306225
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, NextGeneration said:

    Here’s the logical problems with Obama:

    Either (A) Obama really didn’t know that Rev. Wright was saying offensive stuff, OR (B) Obama did know.

    If (A) is true, and he didn’t know, Obama is either (1) a flaming idiot for not being able to understand plain English, OR(2) seriously lying about how involved he was with this church.

    If (B) is true, and he did know, then either (1) Obama agrees with Rev. Wright’s positions, OR (2) Obama disagrees with him.

    If (B)(1) is true, then Obama is a pathological liar now, AND is psychologically unsuitable to be President for holding beliefs that are so diametrically opposed to the beliefs of most Americans.

    If (B)(2) is true, then Obama has been shamelessly lying until now, AND repeatedly subjecting his young daughters to hateful speeches that he doesn’t believe are right.

    Ok, so all the potential options pretty much have Obama as some combination of an idiot, a liar, and/or a nutcase. (and a lousy parent!)

    Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, and say he’s not an idiot, and he hasn’t been lying for years and years about his dedication to his church.

    Oops, wait, that means he brought his family to a church for 20+ years where he didn’t agree with the message. Why would he do that??? Could it be that he joined this church merely for the political connections he desperately needed in Chicago, and then once he got involved, was too chicken to risk angering them by leaving?

    Ok, so then, logically, Obama is now an idiot, a liar, a nutcase, AND A CHICKEN.

    Tell me again how this man became a serious Presidential candidate???

    NextGenerationFlorida

  43. #306228
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, mistressjustice said:

    A blowhard defense lawyer obviously, high in the realm of “accomplishment.”

    ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

  44. #306230
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, sambo said:

    sleepneat said:
    Will it work? With white-guilt-ridden Liberals and the Left Wing Media it will, but with those who use logic and common sense,

    but with those who use logic and common sense the left side of our brain

  45. #306233
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, undrseige247 said:

    mistressjustice said:
    #130

    I don’t know who Underseige votes for. Perhaps Jerry will ask him next time he’s on, and he can lead the Star Spangled Banner sign-along while shirtless from fighting his uncle or brother, or Uncluther.

    Yawn, you know too much about Springer to sound convincing. Have you ever convinced a jury of anything? Or do you just yell at them?

  46. #306239
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, gayle said:

    Mistress, are you the REAL Monica by chance?

  47. #306243
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Misscheryl said:

    mistressjustice said:
    #130
    I don’t know who Underseige votes for. Perhaps Jerry will ask him next time he’s on, and he can lead the Star Spangled Banner sign-along while shirtless from fighting his uncle or brother, or Uncluther.

    hummmm…..that was pretty weak.

  48. #306249
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, sam.i.am said:

    lgm,
    thanks for your excellent economic analysis. . .by your understanding of the demand curve, the gas tax is pre-emptively reducing the profits of the oil companies. So the government is punishing both the consumer (paying overall higher price) and the oil companies (reducing potential profits).

    Liberal idiots should try to wrap their heads around this one. What if we had reduced consumption through greater fuel efficiency, reducing car travel, etc.? The government would get less gas tax money, right? Somehow, they would need to find a way to manage with less. Any argument against a gas tax holiday isn’t logical and can’t be based on “government needs”.

    If there is a liberal idiot conception of EVIL PROFITS it should at least be profit margins, not overall profits.

    PROFIT MARGINS OF EVIL BIG OIL VS. BENEVOLENT BIG MEDIA:
    BP 7.33%
    Exxon 11.23%
    Chevron 8.98%
    Shell 8.81%

    Time Warner 9.44%
    Disney 11.64%
    Gen. Electric 12.69%

  49. #306250
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, Regulus said:

    Watching Obama trying to close the stable doors after the horse has fled reminded me of the scene from The Caine Mutiny, in which the defense attorney for the accused mutineer asks him point-blank:

    “Are you a fool or a mutineer?
    There’s no third possibility.”

    Same for Obama: Are you an imbecile, or a fraud? There’s no third possibility.

    Imbecile: You spent 20 years around Wright and his minions, and only now noticed what he was saying or felt the need to dissociate yourself from him?

    Fraud: You spent 20 years with Wright as your “spiritual adviser” – without raising any objection to what he’s been saying all that time – and actually believe that people are going to buy your “Saul on the road to Damascus” conversion away from him?

    Obama is colliding head-on with two political axioms:

    Don’t expect to talk your way out of problems you behave yourself into;

    and

    There are stupid Americans, but Americans are not stupid.

    A majority of the electorate will not want an imbecile in the White House. There are too many of us still around who were alive when Jimmy Carter was president.

    And we’ve already experienced and can still recall a pair of frauds from the 1990s. Don’t want to go back there, either.

    Upshot: While it’s too early to say of Obama, “Stick a fork in him, he’s done” – the general election remains McCain’s to lose.

  50. #306254
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, abstractmind said:

    I know some liberals have mischaracterized McCain’s 100yrs statement. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, and still suggest he’s crazy. The Middle East isn’t Germany or Japan. The Middle East in the heart of the Islamic Jihadist movement, and it frigtens me that J. SIDNEY. M. thinks that we can just lolygag around there for decades like it’s the equivalent of Germany or Japan. A military presence there means perpetual war. I think the man is a hawk, irrational, and will make a disasterous president.

    Good to see you can have a discussion, mistress! :)

    While we agree that McCain would be horrible, i cant say the dems have anyone that would be better. both of them would leave there ASAP and leave a void there that our enemies would love to fill. It is a mistake, that we can ill afford, to just hand over the keys to the realm if (or when, in the dems’ case) we pick up and go.

    To understand this though, requires understanding the enemy. You are correct about having “perpetual war”, but I believe you dont have it in the correct context. Those who actively seek our destruction will do anything to keep it in a perpetual state of combat. The only concern they have is the best way to slit our throats. Do you think they value life or peace, or anything else along those lines? Ask Maupin’s family (and may he find the rest he so richly deserves, my thoughts are with his family as well) about how much peace and love his captors talked about.

    This whole war on terrorism and against jihad is perpetual, whether we like it and accept it, or not. I just don’t want to be someone caught napping when they come to my doorstep. This is not something that can be dealt with by discussion. It can’t be handled by treaties or sending another Jimmy Carter over there. It is not something that can be dealt with by sticking our heads in the sands, nor by tying the hands of the very military that is equipped to deal with them behind their back. As much as I dislike saying it, some people only respond to stimuli such as pain. Sometimes, in extreme cases such as our jihad loving counterparts, the only thing they understand is the same violence they unleash on others with seeming impunity, and i’m perfectly fine with having them obliterated utterly and completely. But ignoring them, running from them, or trying to barter with them will only escalate it from their end. So this war is, as i’ve said, perpetual, regardless. I would rather be vigilant, since that is the case.

    Just something to think about.

  51. #306255
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, undrseige247 said:

    mistressjustice said:

    A defense lawyer obviously, in the realm of “accomplishment.”

    OK, now I know how you make your money. Defending scumbags, the types on Springer. We know why you’re a racist lib, it’s the only way you put bread on the table. Do you really think anyone believes your line of sh*t? Manipulating and twisting the truth is what you’re best at and when that doesn’t work for you it’s intimidation time. Seriously, it boring and typical, bring your jive act somewhere else.

  52. #306267
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, governmentdrone said:

    mistressjustice:

    Glad to know that you consider the name-calling you’ve been doing “rather mild”. Talk about intellectual dishonesty. Got it?

    I find you to be nothing more than a confrontational, condescending, ill-informed boor who has no idea of what is occuring in the world around you.

    I have read your posts for some time now, and find your contributions to be completely lacking any real substance.

    Personally, I hope that our host will review the complete lack of any honest contribution to this blog by you and decide to suspend your account. However, I believe Michelle has a higher standard for that type of thing than I would were this my blog.

    Why don’t you try the Huffers or the KosKids? They seem to more closely match your intellectual and emotional maturity level.

    You can respond – or not – frankly, I don’t care. I’d love to debate Obama’s real shortcomings with a liberal who could provide an honest defense of his socialist policies. Unfortunately, you don’t seem to be up to that task.

    Maybe we could find you some nice crayons so you could draw all us neanderthal conservatives a picture.

  53. #306271
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, rooster said:

    I like studying my familyyour kind. It’s a mezmerizing education in social misfits, inferiority complexes and losers in general.

    I figured in your rage against the man, you mis-typed so I fixed your post. Too bad about your family, by your description they sound pitiful.

    with sympathy,
    rooster

  54. #306274
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, rooster said:

    Sorry, post #144 was for you mistressjustice.

  55. #306281
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, chapoutier said:
    Wait….

    McCain’s middle name is Sidney? Seriously?

    Sounds like a teasippingcallingsoccerfootballmonarchylovinglimey name to me.

    Even IF you like McCain – that is funny.

    Don’t let lgm thread jack with gas tax.

    1. He is clueless
    2. He is wrong

  56. #306286
    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, mistressjustice said:
    Undreseige
    Practicing the law doesn’t require a PHD. Your wife should be proud though, and I do pity her. I’d be embarrassed by your lame pimping of her. There are lots of accomplished people on this thread. Act like you been there before, okay boy?
    I’ll agree MM new what she meant.

    I do still watch Springer during lunch breaks or sick days. I like studying your kind. It’s a mezmerizing education in social misfits, inferiority complexes and losers in general. Please let us all know next time you’re on.

    WOW! You seem bitter. You need a man!

  57. #306295
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, sambo said:

    sam.i.am said:
    If there is a liberal idiot conception of EVIL PROFITS it should at least be profit margins, not overall profits.

    PROFIT MARGINS OF EVIL BIG OIL VS. BENEVOLENT BIG

    Good post. I saw one comparing planned parenthood v. exxon. Guess who won? and look who gets 300+ million of tax payers money.

  58. #306298
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, Barry F. said:

    Its just your jive talkin

    Youre telling me lies, yeah

    Jive talkin

    You wear a disguise

    Jive talkin

    So misunderstood, yeah

    Jive talkin

    You really no good…

    The Bee Gees have nothin’ on BHO. ;-)

  59. #306306
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, sambo said:

    The Bee Gees are racist bigots.

  60. #306308
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, franksalterego said:

    Seems to me,

    That if Black folks, and guilt-ridden whites, don’t want their sensibilities wounded with ebonic language, p’haps they shouldn’t be making fun of white marching bands.

    if you get my drift

  61. #306314
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, ct davis said:

    I can hear a bunch of Americans who had fallen for the MSM BS suddenly realizing that Democrats are all lying scum. Look at all the comments, look at the obvious issues with this man and then think about the alternative – HIllary??? hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. #306320
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, sambo said:

    The Bee Gees are racist bigots.

    Well, okay then. Can I take it you don’t like the comparison of Obama to the opening verse of their song either? :lol:

  63. #306323
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:13 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, sambo said:
    The Bee Gees are racist bigots.

    ROFL

    …says someone named “sambo”! :)

  64. #306330
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, sambo said:

    Barry F. said:
    Well, okay then. Can I take it you don’t like the comparison of Obama to the opening verse of their song either?

    Using a racist word like jive disqualifies any point that you are trying to make (no matter how good it was). Haven’t you learned anything from mistressjustice.

  65. #306336
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, sambo said:

    On-my-soap-box said:
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, sambo said:
    The Bee Gees are racist bigots.
    ROFL

    …says someone named “sambo”!

    I call my daughter(Sam) Sambo sometimes. Found out on MM a couple months ago that some consider it a racist comment. So what…has nothing to do with me or why I call her that!

  66. #306340
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, rooster said:

    Using a racist word like jive disqualifies any point that you are trying to make (no matter how good it was). Haven’t you learned anything from mistressjustice.

    sambo meet pot, kettle meet sambo, pot meet kettle and y’all meet the real disqualifiers of any thought on racial tolerance, nyk and mistressustice.

  67. #306345
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, rooster said:

    I’m kidding with you sambo, in case you thought I was getting on you. We know who the intolerant are, and they are always people with centuries old grievances like nyk and mistressjustice.
    Our 2 grievance trolls.

  68. #306356
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    It’s cool sambo – I’m not like that. I thought it was funny because of the “racist” thing connected to it.

    It is all good. You are fast turning into one of the best here! Too funny! Making things light – I like it!

  69. #306357
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, nyk said:

    #157 rooster wrote:

    …racial tolerance

    That’s rich. This from a man who recently defended another commenter’s use of the word “wetback” and has repeatedly invited blacks to “go back to Africa.”

    This’ll be the last time I acknowlege you (you’ve made yourself perfectly clear — but at you least you don’t bother hiding exactly who and precisely what you are), but for the record, you wouldn’t know from tolerance.

    Cue tired broken record (”angry black woman,” “butt money,” blah, blah, etc.) in 3…2…1…

  70. #306359
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, nyk said:

    Correction: “monkey…”
    pardon.

  71. #306366
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, sambo said:

    Using a racist word like jive disqualifies any point that you are trying to make (no matter how good it was). Haven’t you learned anything from mistressjustice.

    Actually, Sambo, “jive” is not a racist comment. Try looking it up. Better yet, here is the definition of “jive” for you, so you don’t have to put yourself out for it.

    Look closely at the:

    - transitive verb form for “to cajole of mislead“; and
    - adjective form for “Misleading; phony“.

    Granted, “jive” is slang terminology but not “racist”. Now, had someone used “jive” as an adjective with the n-word, then you could scream racism or racist.

    So, unless you know something about the etymology of “jive” that neither The American Heritage Dictionary nor I seem to know, it isn’t “racist”. Sorry.

    Oh. And, I don’t tend to take any cues or lessons from misstressjustice.

  72. #306367
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    This all reminds me of a scene from the excellent movie “Hardcore” (1979) with George C Scott as the father Jake. His preteen daughter has run away and he hires the PI Peter Boyle to try to find her. He discovers her starring in a hardcore porn flick but is unable to track her down. So Jake starts looking for her himself and meets a young prostitute who helps him negotiate the seamy underworld of porn. He’s of the conservative Dutch Reformed church, she’s a street prostitute. They start talking with each other about life. He tells her some of the tenets of his church. Then the conversation goes something like this:

    Prostitute: That sounds pretty crazy. It doesn’t make much sense.
    Jake: Well it does if your in it. It makes sense from the inside.
    Prostitute: Well, anything makes sense from the inside, when you’re in it.

    That’s Obama’s problem. Trinity Church made sense when he was in it, everyone nodding their heads in agreement, because anything makes sense from the inside. But when he began to look at it from the outside, as other people see Wright’s interpretation of Cone’s black liberation theology, it’s just flat out kooky and racist. Then it’s like, oops. Now what do I do.

  73. #306371
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    Oops.

    Hey Barry F. Looks like you didn’t have your sarcasm detector on.

  74. #306373
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, undrseige247 said:

    What the hell kind of name is “Mistress Justice” anyway? By definition a mistress is an adulterous woman; a woman who has an ongoing extramarital sexual relationship with a man- a whore. So you’re a whore for Justice, sounds like an oxymoron but in this case I’ll leave off the “oxy”. Night folks, I love each and every one of you!

  75. #306378
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Paul-Cincy said:

    Interesting thoughts Paul.

    But in this case, I’m not sure I buy it. BHO’s patterns of association just don’t seem to add up to the “it makes sense when you’re on the inside” argument. He’s just had too many of these types of “friends” and “mentors” for too many years for it to hold any water.

  76. #306383
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, emjem24 said:

    A great summary of Oy!bummer’s pride turned to horror over the Rev. Wright. I wonder if he (Oy!bummer) understands what it looks like to first not renounce Wright then renounce him (I mean it) for real. Is this a case of liberals (and their msm apologists) getting a do over.

    Yet, a lot was made out of Hagee and McCain. Even though McCain wasn’t even a part of Hagee’s church. McCain gets raked through the coals but
    Oy!bummer’s “reverend problem” gets a sympathetic twitter.

    This is a situation where both a politician who is trying, really really trying, not to be the “same old” politician but instead seems to be a softer retread of the old politics that’s been evident for the past 8 years in Washington.

  77. #306385
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    Oops.

    Hey Barry F. Looks like you didn’t have your sarcasm detector on.

    Perhaps I am a little slow on the uptake today or something. I appear to have misread something on another thread (#41) this afternoon. Maybe that is the case here too.

  78. #306386
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, emjem24 said:

    Oh, and one more thing… who sells their speeches? Does this guy really think he’s that “historic” a figure? We’ve had other black presidential candidates in the past. Obummer doesn’t seem to be any different.

  79. #306390
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, granite said:

    #165 On April 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, undrseige247 said:

    “What the hell kind of name is “Mistress Justice” anyway? By definition a mistress is an adulterous woman; a woman who has an ongoing extramarital sexual relationship with a man- a whore. So you’re a whore for Justice, sounds like an oxymoron but in this case I’ll leave off the “oxy”. Night folks, I love each and every one of you!”

    Actually, us247, that’s only one definition of “mistress”.

    “Mistress” is the feminine form of “master”, so it literally means a female boss: for example; the mistress of the house; schoolmistress; the mistress of servants, etc.

  80. #306394
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, granite said:

    Well, it was comment #165 when I was composing.

    Now, the comment I was referring to is #167.

  81. #306398
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, sambo said:

    Barry F. said:
    On April 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, sambo said:

    Using a racist word like jive disqualifies any point that you are trying to make (no matter how good it was). Haven’t you learned anything from mistressjustice.

    Actually, Sambo, “jive” is not a racist comment. Try looking it up. Better yet, here is the definition of “jive” for you, so you don’t have to put yourself out for it.

    I hate that you went through all that work for me, but thanks. I never would want the job of ‘word police’. I thought your bee gees lyrics was spot on.

  82. #306403
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, granite said:

    #174 On April 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, sambo said:

    “I thought your bee gees lyrics was spot on.”

    Bee gees?
    Or, do you mean Alvin & the Chipmunks?

    Either way, agreed!

  83. #306405
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied, they were relieved—such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time.”

    JimM, exactly! I thought it worth re-quoting. He himself refers to his demeanor as a “trick”.

  84. #306407
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, undrseige247 said:

    granite said:

    Actually, us247, that’s only one definition of “mistress”.

    “Mistress” is the feminine form of “master”, so it literally means a female boss: for example; the mistress of the house; schoolmistress; the mistress of servants, etc.

    No, I don’t believe so, you’re badly mistaken. The definition you refer to is the “old” form of the word. When’s the last time you went to female boss and called her mistress? What is this 1894? MJ is refering to herself as a whore or some perverted female dominatrix. And just like MJ seems to assert there’s only one definition for words anyway. You jive?

  85. #306414
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, backwoods conservative said:

    Well, it was comment #165 when I was composing.

    Now, the comment I was referring to is #167.

    That’s why it’s a good idea to blockquote the specific comment you’re referring to. We’ve also had instances where the moderators were deleting unacceptable comments and the comment numbers were changing because of it.

  86. #306422
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, groundhunter said:

    The Democrats and the MSM have allowed this sharade to go on too long. It is beyond repair. If they now reject Obama they face riots in their own party and will loose the black vote. If they stick with Obama they face a humiliating defeat in the general election.

    What a mess.

  87. #306423
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, Barry F. said:

    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, sambo said:

    I hate that you went through all that work for me, but thanks. I never would want the job of ‘word police’. I thought your bee gees lyrics was spot on.

    Sorry, Sambo. I must be a little testy today or something. I’m just not picking up on things today as I normally would. :-(

  88. #306426
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, granite said:

    I’ll give that a try.

    Not holding my breath with the computer here at the “office”, though.

  89. #306427
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Very funny Soap and Sambo.
    My prior posts explain that I’ve never called anyone including Malkin racist, but go ahead have fun, I’m a big girl.

    You are typical of some on the right Drone. Pull out your cookie cutter talking points even when they don’t fit. I will be clear, Seige, initially, and unprovoked called me SCUM. Maybe that’s okay with you, but I obviously took exception and gave some insults of my own. Yeah, I know, never critizize another conservative. I’ll write in big crayon colors that you have no courage or honesty.

    Rooster, I don’t have the energy for your blather. I’ll just ditto(huh huh) NYK’s last line from #160. Feel free to quote/copy one of my posted 100 yr old grievances, but lying should be below, even you. Well, maybe not.

    Abstract:
    Briefly cause I gotta get lunch from Rooster at Taco Stand(it’s okay, it’s honest work):
    A fighting military presence in the Middle East in perpetuity is not the answer. The war on Terrorism needs to be fought with intelligence,(spies, assassination, blowin crap up)ect. Allowing our troops to fight a holy war in perpetuity on Middle Eastern soil will break our military, and devastate the economy. I’m not naive about the permanent threat of Jihadists, but staying until the war is “won”(still have not heard a good definition) and in perpetuity after will be a big mistake. A draft would have to be reinstituted, we’d be more reliant on China for resources/$$$, and countries like Russia and North Korea, and god knows who else would be able to move unabetted due to us being “tied up”.

  90. #306429
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, rooster said:

    Dear angry black woman nyk,

    I do believe you’ll witness more people speaking terms that were once only allowed or reserved to be spoken by your community without any fear of retribution. Why can many blacks make insensitive statements concerning whites? Because according to the leaders in the black community, like Sharpton and jesse, blacks can’t be racist because they are not in power. Bull Scheisse!

    Ain’t so nice when we say things you may not like is it? But it sure is all good when y’all say whatever you want, so long as it is directed at the majority and not the minority. In case you need translation; majority=whites, minority=blacks.

    Welcome to the club darlin’.

    Butt Monkey on the next round.

  91. #306432
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Larraby said:

    For Mistress Justice: Jive does not have racial overtones. I did a search and found a quote from the legendary Muhammad Ali. Before his second fight with Sonny Liston, Muhammad said of his opponent: “You keep talking jive, you’ll eat five”.

  92. #306439
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, henryinga said:

    How can Obummer say what he did yesterday and expect us to believe it, when he’s said that he didn’t know how his pastor felt for twenty years.? His lack of participation in the senate by voting “present” sure doesn’t qualify him for the highest office in the free world. I don’t care about his color; it doesn’t matter whether he’s white, black, or both, which he is, you can’t use get into the Oval Office through affirmative action, you have to earn that honor, and by golly, he doesn’t have a smidgen of a clue about sitting behind the most prestigious desk on God’s Green Earth.There’s no way I can vote for this moron.

  93. #306440
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, rooster said:

    Terrorism needs to be fought with intelligence,(spies, assassination, blowin crap up)ect.

    When you write like this mistressjustice, you betray your liberal brethern ideology.

    I couldn’t agree with you more on this point and a little bit of your view about how long we should be in Iraq.

    We have an invasion happening right here on our southern border that is as important as the jihadis.

  94. #306442
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    The war on Terrorism needs to be fought with intelligence,(spies, assassination, blowin crap up)ect. Allowing our troops to fight a holy war in perpetuity on Middle Eastern soil will break our military, and devastate the economy. I’m not naive about the permanent threat of Jihadists, but staying until the war is “won”(still have not heard a good definition) and in perpetuity after will be a big mistake.

    That’s scary, I agree with MJ nearly word for word on this paragraph.

    I think were the battle for Iraq policy gets lost is when both sides dig in the trenches. If we could all agree on this much and work on a real solution to implement it I would vote for the person pushing to implement such a realistic plan. My problem with much of the left is they blantantly ignore or don’t care about terrorism and make their point known that they believe this (see lgm’s lunatic defense of the goose lake bombers on the other thread as just misguided angry college students… and the 9/11 truthers don’t help either)

  95. #306446
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, undrseige247 said:

    mistressho’ said:

    initially, and unprovoked called me SCUM.

    Calling MM a corny white woman sounds blatantly racist. Of course moron, lib lawyers feel they’re the exception and don’t see it that way. You are scum, learn to live with it.

  96. #306448
    On April 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Okay,

    I’ll leave on this interesting meeting of the minds. I guess we can agree on every 5th or 6th issue or so.

    peace

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