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Al-Qaeda leader in Somalia flattened by missile strike; World press fumes, whines

By see-dubya  •  May 1, 2008 06:28 PM

Here’s a couple of paragraphs from one international News Bureau’s reporting on the airstrikes that killed Al-Qaeda’s leader in Somalia:

U.S. missiles destroyed the house of the man believed to be the top Al Qaeda commander in Somalia, killing him and 10 others Thursday in a pre-dawn attack that analysts warned could torpedo peace talks but have little impact on the Islamic insurgency.

The killing of Aden Hashi Ayro comes amid escalating fighting and a spiraling humanitarian crisis in the Horn of Africa nation….

The talks offered a slim hope of bringing together the disparate groups in the armed opposition. But Thursday’s attack damages the negotiations before they begin, said Rashid Abdi, an analyst at the International Crisis Group think tank.

It may also undermine the new prime minister, who wished to include more extreme fighters in the talks despite opposition from the president.

“However much the Americans claim the war on terror is one thing and the peace process is another thing, it’s not that clear-cut,” Abdi said. “This will definitely have political repercussions.”…

Analyst Iise Ali Geedi of Somali University said the killings will fuel suspicions that the United States is using the talks as a fig leaf.

“The U.S. is entertaining Somalis with empty diplomatic efforts — and is chasing its terror suspects on the other hand,” he said. “I would like the U.S. to support reconciliation rather than carrying out attacks.”

Here’s another:

A US air raid in Somalia has killed up to 30 people, including two senior leaders of the armed opposition group al-Shabaab.

Four aircraft bombed the town of Dusamareb, 300km north of Mogadishu, on Thursday.

Among the dead was Aden Hashi Eyrow, the military commander of al-Shabaab, the Union of Islamic Courts’ (UIC) former military wing.

Bob Prucha, a US military spokesman, told the [other] news agency that US forces had attacked a “known al-Qaeda target”.

Mukhtar Robow Adumansur, an al-Shabaab spokesman, said: “It is true that infidel planes bombed Dusamareb. This was an unprovoked attack[”]…

Somali intelligence sources said Eyrow was trained in Afghanistan as a mujahid and later, worked with the Taliban before Afghanistan was attacked by US-led forces.

He then returned to Somalia to establish al-Shabaab as the military wing of the Islamic courts.

Make your guess and then click through to see which is which: can you tell AP’s reporting from Al-Jazeera’s?

You’d think this ought to be easy, but it’s not.
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  1. #1
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Wade said:

    torpedo peace talks

    Just as they are sooo close to peace. Oh my!

  2. #2
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm, bloghooligan said:

    wOOt! P0Wn3d, sucka.

  3. #3
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm, ajmontana said:

    Al-Qaeda leader in Somalia flattened by missile strike

    ah shucks…. buh bye scumbag.

  4. #4
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm, Madmoney said:

    torpedo peace talks? how about put a hellfire missile through the “peace talks”?

  5. #5
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:36 pm, Hangfire said:

    “Missile torpedoes talks”

    Nyuk,nyuk.

  6. #6
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:41 pm, DougT said:

    I guessed correctly but only because there was such a focus on explaing who Eyrow (Ayro) was in the second article.

    The problem that I see these “analysts” having is confusing al-Qaeda members with anyone who should be allowed to discuss a peaceful settlement.

    I like how the one news agency referred to him as a former “military commander” of al-Shabeeb. The only al-Qaeda reference comes from an “infidel” source.

  7. #7
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:41 pm, rooster said:

    Hope he’s enjoying his stay in Hell!

  8. #8
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:42 pm, uhangtight said:

    how can you have peace talks when it is an honor to lie to your enemy and to dangle the carrot in front of them while preparing to attack them in the future? to believe that ‘peace talks’ were really going to accomplish something is idiocy.

    i guess his roosters have come home to roost, hey?

  9. #9
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm, lgm said:

    Please read the article. It makes sense. You have to wonder: if you kill one bad guy at the expense of starting a humanitarian crisis (many innocent people dying of starvation), is it worth it?

  10. #10
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:45 pm, old trooper said:

    Are those filthy Ba$tatds dancing and handing out candy in Gaza yet?

    Tens of Billions of US Tax Dollars spent for years and no candy?

    Call Jimmy Carter and complain.

  11. #11
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:47 pm, nbarry said:

    What difference between the AP and Al-Jazeera? The AP will never call a terrorist a terrorist. He is either a “militant” or an “activist.”

  12. #12
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I still remember Mogadishu… revenge is sweet. Oh and as for starving, nimrod? The Islamic pigs having been starving that country for decades…

  13. #13
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm, flmom said:

    The ‘infidel planes’ was the clue for me, other than that, it was hard to tell. This is the only kind of ‘peace talk’ that the jihadis understand, has been through time immemorial, why the left doesn’t understand that, I’ll never know.

  14. #14
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pm, Hangfire said:

    Starting a humanitarian crisis, lgm? It’s been going on for decades!

    We might as well take out the bad guys; any crisis will be blamed on the U.S. anyway

  15. #15
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:50 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    Good Riddance.

  16. #16
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:51 pm, cicerokid said:

    Some how I can’t get the picture of Slim Pickins riding that torpedo out of my mind…

  17. #17
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, d1carter said:

    Is there a difference between AP and Al Jazeera?

  18. #18
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, cicerokid said:

    seven letters

  19. #19
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:53 pm, rooster said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:37 pm, rooster said: In response to a May Day post by our insane troll.

    This shows that on some questions, the general public is less rigid than many posters here.

    The numbers depend on how a question is asked so different polls on seemingly similar questions come out different.

    Wow! I almost agree with this moron.

    Question: Is littlegirlyman an imbecile or an idiot?

    OK, I was wrong, no matter how you pose the question, this guy comes out on the high side of stupidity….according to 95% of voters.

    my bag

    He proves that no matter how the question is asked he is still a moron.

  20. #20
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm, ajmontana said:

    If you remove one troll from the website for the sake of saving us from his daily drivel is it worth it?
    Yes.

  21. #21
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    The photo for this thread on the main page is hilarious!

    I’m glad we smoked him.

  22. #22
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    AP = Alqaeda Press

  23. #23
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “Somali University”

    let’s pause just for a moment to savor the sad humor involved in putting those 2 words together …

    /betcha it’s easy to get tenure there tho …

  24. #24
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:58 pm, PBoilermaker said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm, ajmontana said:
    If you remove one troll from the website for the sake of saving us from his daily drivel is it worth it?
    Yes.

    Amen. At least Rusty, Mookie and nyk stick around to argue.

  25. #25
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm, Hangfire said:

    PB,

    Does that make the daily troll a stupidity sniper?

  26. #26
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm, Hangfire said:

    lgm = James Carville

  27. #27
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:10 pm, Boomer said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:51 pm, cicerokid said:
    Some how I can’t get the picture of Slim Pickins riding that torpedo out of my mind…

    Actually it was a nuke dropped from a B-52. Sorry old SAC guy! We used to love watching Doctor Strangelove especially when on Alert.

    Looks like our troops continue to take care of buisness. No virgins for you! :D

  28. #28
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:12 pm, Jim M. said:

    Deal with it. It’s called payback, it’s a bitch, and it ain’t over yet!

  29. #29
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm, DesertLover said:

    Boomer

    funny how no one ever asks what happens when the virgins run out …

    :lol:

  30. #30
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:13 pm, NotaSlickFan said:

    These morons who whine about consequences regarding the peace talks are very, very ignorant of the reality of the people being spoken about in these reports. The slightest perceived offense is followed by savagery, burnings, beheadings and bombings. If we rollover to every potential threat coming from them it will only encourage more despicable behavior.

    As others here have mentioned already, peace talks are only a smoke screen for these animals. They will lie to your face and then at the most opportune time for them they will attempt to kill you once again. Those who do not understand this are living in some sort of altered state of mind and are no more than useful fools for the killers from islam.

  31. #31
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm, Hangfire said:

    Afterwards, the musical accompaniment to the mushroom cloud:

    “We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when…….”

  32. #32
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm, Southpaw said:

    An operation like this is a positive on many levels. It shows intelligence is working and penetrating their operatons. It takes out a bunch of the bad guys. It sends a message to would be jihadists that there is no safe place. I don’t spend much time worrying about what the media, foreign or domestic has to say about actions against the terrorists. I spend zero time caring about what individuals have to say about the consequences of our actions. It’s that kind of thinking that led our enemies to believe they could attack us with impunity.

  33. #33
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm, cicerokid said:

    That one deserves the virgin camel. Thanks SAC for keeping the friendly skies that way!

  34. #34
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm, Hangfire said:

    Worst part about SAC was the location of the bases. Yeccch.

  35. #35
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm, terrig said:

    Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish and OIC Keyboard Warrior guess you’ve missed the last 20 or so years. They’ve been causing their own humanitarian crisis.

  36. #36
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, SacTownMan said:

    Hey lgm I did read the unbiased AP article and the following passage might interest you:

    ” Sheik Muqtar Robow, a spokesman for the al-Shabab militia that Ayro led, called Ayro a martyr for the Islamist cause.

    “Our brother martyr Aden Hashi, has received what he was looking for — death for the sake of Allah at the hands of the United States,” he told The Associated Press.

    He said another senior Shabab leader, Sheik Muhidin Mohamud Omar, also was killed in the attack.

    Somali government officials have said Ayro, who was believed to be in his 30s, trained in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States and is the head of Al Qaeda’s cell in Somalia.

    Few Somalis had heard of him before 2005, when Ayro desecrated a colonial Italian cemetery in Mogadishu, throwing hundreds of exhumed corpses into the sea. He then built a mosque on the site and began training fighters there.

    An International Crisis Group report linked Ayro to the murders of four foreign aid workers, a British journalist and renowned Somali peace activist Abdulqadir Yahya.”

    Sounds like a true humanitarian to me and certainly the best hope for peace in the region //sarc off.

    It sound like we were able to help him and his buddies get to their paradise a little earlier than planned.

    Hey lgm (does that stand for “loser going mental”) Is the Daily Koz a moonbat short today?

  37. #37
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Now, that is a good use of tax payer money. Condi, take notice, and stop giving those terrorists money and weapons.

  38. #38
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm, a crapweasel said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm, Wade said:

    torpedo peace talks

    Is that a new weapon?

  39. #39
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:43 pm, Boomer said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm, Hangfire said:
    Worst part about SAC was the location of the bases. Yeccch.

    Why not Minot? Freezing is the reason!

    We used to say SAC really stood for Simulate, Authenticate, and Cheat!

    Enjoy the rest of your Mayday gang Boom is checking off headset. :D

  40. #40
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    Didn’t Pres. Reagan bomb Kahdafi and suddenly that terrorist saw the light:

    http://openweb.tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/1988-12/1988-12-24-NBC-10.html

    I also remember the French gvt. not letting us fly over that country so the mission lost a pilot and plane.

    I personally boycotted anything French - sure did miss my favorite French perfume.

  41. #41
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm, Texas Tiger said:

    Please read the article. It makes sense. You have to wonder: if you kill one bad guy at the expense of starting a humanitarian crisis (many innocent people dying of starvation), is it worth it?

    That would be a problem only if…WE KILLED THE LAST F*&#ING FARMER IN SOMALIA!

    A tip of the hat to the late, great Sam Kinison.

  42. #42
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:45 pm, abstractmind said:

    LGM,

    Personally, I think the absolute and unconditional obliteration of our enemies, regardless, is a good thing.

    If there is a “humanitarian crisis” (which we didnt cause, btw…), then we can deal with it.

    After the bad guys are all dead and gone.

  43. #43
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm, Grey Fox said:

    Whacking a senior terrorist leader sounds like an excellent way to begin peace talks. It makes war so much less attractive to the other side…

  44. #44
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:48 pm, lgm said:

    If this has the effect of escalating the civil war in Somalia, lots of innocent Somalis will die of starvation. Maybe it’s worth, but if it doesn’t give you pause, there’s a moral screw loose (bring on the snark).

    Think of a thriller movie where the bad guy tries to incite a civil war in a third world country to settle a personal score. We may have done just that.

  45. #45
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “Think of a thriller movie where the bad guy tries to incite a civil war in a third world country to settle a personal score.”

    i’ll try and type slowly, just for you to be able to comprehend:

    dude was al-q. dude wants us dead. dude has made various statements and actions to said effect over some amount of years. we found dude’s location. we killed dude. dude can no longer do what he did as mentioned in the 2nd and 3rd sentences. this is a good thing.

  46. #46
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:59 pm, ajmontana said:

    DesertLover said:
    Boomer

    funny how no one ever asks what happens when the virgins run out …

    this has never made sense to me, they treat women like crap then are all excited about “paradise” with the virgins…. treat the one’s on earth with the respect they deserve, dont expect getting any rewards later for the treatment your dishing out now.

  47. #47
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:02 pm, RedWinged Blackbird said:

    Mukhtar Robow Adumansur, an al-Shabaab spokesman, said: “It is true that infidel planes bombed Dusamareb. This was an unprovoked attack[”]…

    Planes are just planes, Mukhtar. They have no religious affiliation. We infidels learned that the hard way. The pilots were infidels, and unlike your pilots, they’ll be back…again and again and again.

  48. #48
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm, spo-con said:

    Hey, nice catch Ayro !!

  49. #49
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:07 pm, NotaSlickFan said:

    Buckaroo #45 The useless one you write to does not get it and will not get it. You could try using Yosemite Sam Hooked On Phonics cd’s and he would still not get it. Trolls were not put on earth to get it. They are only permitted to be ignorant non-sentient fools.

  50. #50
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:08 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 49 NSF

    i tend to be a hopeless optimist …

  51. #51
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:08 pm, skysoljr82 said:

    #44-lgm.
    Your fascination with movies is NOT helping my kids.

  52. #52
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:11 pm, spo-con said:

    Hey lgm, they just whacked 11 terrorists. Look at all the FOOD that saves for everyone else! Problem solved.

  53. #53
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:13 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    Mukhtar Robow Adumansur, an al-Shabaab spokesman, said: “It is true that infidel planes bombed Dusamareb. This was an unprovoked attack[”]…

    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:02 pm, RedWinged Blackbird said:
    Planes are just planes, Mukhtar. They have no religious affiliation. We infidels learned that the hard way. The pilots were infidels, and unlike your pilots, they’ll be back…again and again and again.

    That was close to what I was going to type. I will add that ours are trained to take off and land.

  54. #54
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:15 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    Oh i must respond…

    U.S. missiles destroyed the house of the man believed to be the top Al Qaeda commander in Somalia, killing him and 10 others Thursday in a pre-dawn attack that analysts warned could torpedo peace talks but have little impact on the Islamic insurgency.

    We will hunt terrorist down no matter where you are. If you help, harbor, aid or support terror groups thwn you maybe subject to some shell shock….

    Mukhtar Robow Adumansur, an al-Shabaab spokesman, said: “It is true that infidel planes bombed Dusamareb. This was an unprovoked attack

    Please see answer above.

    If we want to win this war it is time to fight terrorist like a war not a police action. As General William T. Sherman said:
    “Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster. “

  55. #55
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pm, spo-con said:

    #46 AJ, what if those ‘virgins’ turn out to be lesbians?

  56. #56
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pm, ArmywifeArmymom said:

    These jihadist always claim they want to die for Allah and then they go and hide in bunkers and dress like women to hide from the very people who are working over time to grant them that wish.

    Our military is trying to give jihadist their dying wish. A little more sincereity from them about their dedication to die for Allah is all I am asking.

  57. #57
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm, ajmontana said:

    #46 AJ, what if those ‘virgins’ turn out to be lesbians?

    arent all lesbians virgins?

  58. #58
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm, DougT said:

    My biggest problem with this thread is that HUGE portrait of Mr. Reno that pops up everytime I open this post’s comments. (shudders)

  59. #59
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm, steveegg said:

    Make your guess and then click through to see which is which: can you tell AP’s reporting from Al-Jazeera’s?

    You’d think this ought to be easy, but it’s not.

    Hate to tell you this, but there is a dead giveaway in one of them that let me know without clicking which report was which.

  60. #60
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:34 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 57 aj

    um, true dat, but i’m thinkin’ the hostess is not gonna like it if this particular road gets any more well-travelled upon …
    :-)

  61. #61
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:35 pm, RedWinged Blackbird said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:13 pm, Tennessee Dave said:

    You’re from my neck o’ the woods. Bartlett H.S. - 1967.

  62. #62
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:38 pm, Bruce said:

    Seems like we could have used the millions of dollars wasted on killing a couple whack-jobs in Somalia some better way…

    …like maybe building a fence between the USA and Mexico??

  63. #63
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 62

    dude, this entire op was prolly under 6 figures …

  64. #64
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm, Bruce said:

    …Oh yeah or giving it to me rather than literally burning it up???

    Folks, there is only lip-service to the war of terror. Charades like this occur periodically so Bush can say, “See, we our war is working!” Sorry, the terrorism that exists today is not a threat, and it does not justify the cost of supporting the defense contractor establishment.

  65. #65
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm, ajmontana said:

    Easy fix, shred the pork, build the fence… Hillary’s pork alone would almost cover it.

  66. #66
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm, ajmontana said:

    Sorry, the terrorism that exists today is not a threat,

    and you know this lil tidbit how?

  67. #67
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm, Buckaroo said:

    “does not justify the cost of supporting the defense contractor establishment.”

    which regular points out — “they always tell on themselves?”
    :-) :-)

  68. #68
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:45 pm, RedWinged Blackbird said:

    and you know this lil tidbit how?

    Michael Moore

  69. #69
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:48 pm, Hangfire said:

    #64. What makes me happy is that, once the enemies foreign are finally destroyed, our forces can concentrate on the domestic ones. They are sworn to protect us from both.

  70. #70
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Is there a difference between AP and Al Jazeera?

    One is the unashamed defender of Fanatical Islamic Jihad, the other some Middle-Eastern Broadcasting company…
    Sorry, not too original, but couldn’t resist.

  71. #71
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    Rimshot, AlohaGuy

  72. #72
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:57 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    dude, this entire op was prolly under 6 figures …

    What’s the accounting code for Training Run? Everyone’s on salary anyway.

  73. #73
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:03 pm, Coregis said:

    “Our brother martyr Aden Hashi, has received what he was looking for — death for the sake of Allah at the hands of the United States,” he told The Associated Press.

    Reminds me of the US General during the Iranian Hostage Crisis who responded to one of the Mullahs saying that the Iranian people were looking forward to being martyred by the Great Satan America by stating that he looks forward to the opportunity to grant them their wish. Maybe sooner….

  74. #74
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:03 pm, Bob in Myrtle Beach said:

    The only thing I found different between the two was that one used the word infidels, and one didn’t.

    I imagine the poor schmuck living next door now has to change his bedsheets.

  75. #75
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:03 pm, txvet2 said:

    lgm, as usual, doesn’t quite get it. He more than likely thinks that Jimmy Carter was responsible for bringing peace between Egypt and Israel.

  76. #76
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:11 pm, sbw999 said:

    Al Jazeera…AP….AP…. Al Jazeera…. Associated Jazeera…..Jazeera Press….guess it is hard to tell…..

  77. #77
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm, gippergirl said:

    ***splat***

  78. #78
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:13 pm, gippergirl said:

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ll sleep easier tonight…

    Thank you to our Armed Forces for another kick-a$$ job defending freedom!

  79. #79
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:24 pm, docflash said:

    Wouldn’t it be better if we dropped a really BIG missle on the whole of Somalia?Now I’m confused,is Brucie and lgm the same person?

  80. #80
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pm, spo-con said:

    Yes gippergirl, this was a great day for justice. Night all………

  81. #81
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:47 pm, Buckaroo said:

    # 79 df

    well, i think lgm is against the fence, so …
    :-) :-)

  82. #82
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:01 pm, sclawstudent said:

    Aden Hashi Ayro when he gets to hell: “72 Virginians? I thought it was 72 VIRGINS! Curse you OOOOOSSSAAAAMMMAAA!!!!”
    Ok, so that’s not exactly new material, but there are SO many great jokes about that subject. And, at the risk of being too racy: virgins? Really? At least qualify it with “young”; what happens when they get there and it’s a bunch of 70 year-old spinsters?

  83. #83
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:05 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Well, ain’t this a derned shame…./sarc off

  84. #84
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:05 pm, ammo john said:

    Mukhtar Robow Adumansur, an al-Shabaab spokesman, said: “It is true that infidel planes bombed Dusamareb. This was an unprovoked attack[”]…

    Uh, isn’t that how Al-Gayda works when they send their suicide /car bombers?

  85. #85
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:06 pm, undrseige247 said:

    Sayonara scumbag, too bad Dracula still isn’t alive he’d stick your head on a pole.

  86. #86
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:22 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Re; “I would like the U.S. to support reconciliation rather than carrying out attacks.

    Reconciliation
    is in the eyes of the beholder…

  87. #87
    On May 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pm, puhiawa said:

    The talks offered a slim hope of bringing together the disparate groups in the armed opposition. But Thursday’s attack damages the negotiations before they begin, said Rashid Abdi, an analyst at the International Crisis Group think tank

    Now that;s funny right there. I don’t care who you are.

  88. #88
    On May 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pm, tbear44 said:

    They dont get 72 virgins. They get a 72 year old virgin.

  89. #89
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 am, pgtips said:

    If this has the effect of escalating the civil war in Somalia, lots of innocent Somalis will die of starvation. Maybe it’s worth, but if it doesn’t give you pause, there’s a moral screw loose (bring on the snark).

    ROFLMBO.

    That’s a good one mate. Peace negotiations work when you negotiate from a position of strength. You need to deter the other party by making the prospect of a confrontation something they’d like to avoid. Killing Al-Q’s lead man in Somalia does just that. Now put that screw back in and think on that.

  90. #90
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Please read the article. It makes sense. You have to wonder: if you kill one bad guy at the expense of starting a humanitarian crisis (many innocent people dying of starvation), is it worth it?

    This person was a terrorists, LGM. It’s us for them, and thank goodness for our military. It’s not how I want things to go down, but there is really no other choice.

    Now, as far as humanitarian crises go, give to your local shelf or donate to USAID. Just think how many meals Obama could have provided if he hadn’t brought that $99/lb. slab of meat.

    See? It’s the selfish elite as to why we have starvation.

    And if you want to feed the Somalis, be my guest, LGM! I actually think you have a legitimate point for once. Trouble is, most liberals don’t know the trouble it takes to do that (ie military escort intervention) or they simply don’t have the stomach for it (excuse the metaphor).

    I would if I could.

    The reality is starvation is a big problem mostly from selfishness.

  91. #91
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 5:06 am, ct davis said:

    “Unprovoked attack”???? Whooooooo!! That’s a good one. The only problem with this incident is that not enough of our enemy has been killed. But I have faith that someone is working hard to solve that problem. This person is not a Democrat.

  92. #92
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 6:36 am, JBro said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:48 pm, lgm said:
    If this has the effect of escalating the civil war in Somalia, lots of innocent Somalis will die of starvation. Maybe it’s worth, but if it doesn’t give you pause, there’s a moral screw loose (bring on the snark).

    Think of a thriller movie where the bad guy tries to incite a civil war in a third world country to settle a personal score. We may have done just that.

    lgm, to refresh your memory of a much-publicized period in our nation’s history, there was a military operation in Northern Kenya dubbed “Operation Provide Relief” which was tasked with providing logistical support to non-government agencies delivering food to starving Somalia in 1992. Warlords in Somalia compromised that mission which led to Operation Restore Hope in Somalia. I was present in Somalia from Dec 92 - July 93 with 2nd Bn 9th Marines in the “famine triangle”. They were starving then too, and had been for a decade, due to their own civil war. The starving did not start with our presence, though we did accomplish much to end it; until 1993 when former President Clinton pulled out the military due to the attacks outlined rather accurately in “Blackhawk Down”.

    You really should think your arguments through prior to posting such ridiculousness as “innocent Somalis will die of starvation” since that situation has been going on for over 25 years.

  93. #93
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am, Bruce said:

    You need to consider that salaries have the least to do with the cost of the operation. The hardware cost of the missiles used to terminate this lowlife man is where the cost to the American taxpayer lies.

    Of course, the cost of the missile includes all the payoffs to the defense contractor establishment, so we have some bloated executives and their cousins sitting in their bazillion dollar mansions smoking Cuban cigars while tax money is supporting them.

    Then there’s the misinformation of the American government. C’mon folks, the terror threat is for practical purposes nil. Bush and his Democrat friends want you to think that a terror threat exists (1) to make it look like the government is doing something good and (2) to keep the ignorant American populace willing to surrender their rights in exchange for the promise of safety. Fortunately, polling data tends to confirm that most Americans are skeptical of the bogus war on terror.

    gippergirl (#78) is a freaking moron for thinking that some two-bit thug in Somalia’s death makes her safer. She’s more of the problem, not a solution.

  94. #94
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 am, kurthanson said:

    Rest in Pieces.

  95. #95
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 7:44 am, abstractmind said:

    On May 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am, Bruce said:

    Though my sleep patterns didnt change last night due to this piece of human trash being thrown out finally, I did take some comfort that someone ELSE, somewhere else, is safer as a result of his death. Just because we here at home might not feel the immediate effect of this strike, doesnt mean someone closer to his neighborhood doesnt.

    And somehow, I dont think gippergirl is out killing innocent civilians and plotting the death of infidels and jews. So gipper, if you’re part of the problem, i’ll also accept you’re part of the solution and call it even ;)

    But to be honest Bruce, how many attacks on american soil have there been since 9-11 by these “two bit thugs”?

    I cant count any. I would say someone is doing their job, somewhere.

  96. #96
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Bruce = lgm

  97. #97
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 8:42 am, ajmontana said:

    Then there’s the misinformation of the American government. C’mon folks, the terror threat is for practical purposes nil.

    you keep throwing this baloney out, is it hard to breath with that head of yours in the sand?

  98. #98
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 8:56 am, caligulajones said:

    This is the policing side of fighting terrorists that might have a chance of working. Selective strikes based on good intelligence. I would love to hear what people said when Clinton bombed Somalia and Afghanistan to fight OBL. As I remember, he was accused of wagging the dog to get over his Monica problem. As to the virgins that they want, I think it is because they won’t know how lousy of a lover they are. Like playing the violin to a deaf person who can’t tell you don’t know how to play.

  99. #99
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Sand is being kind is it not AJ?

  100. #100
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    What do you think the endless rivers of booze is for. 72 virgins gone - get drunk for all eternity.

  101. #101
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 9:00 am, Jimmie said:

    Score 770 virgins!!!! for the terrorists…some one has got to think about this……..

  102. #102
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 am, Jimmie said:

    Oh Yea…something bothers me about the headline…I don’t think he was so much flattened as dissipated…

  103. #103
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Well that takes care of 70 VIRGINS, next???

  104. #104
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 am, Laree said:

    Dear Al Qeada,

    We have a list, please be patient we will get to you, United States Military.

  105. #105
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am, Yashmak said:

    “I would like the U.S. to support reconciliation rather than carrying out attacks.”

    The USA gave this particular terrorist ample time to reconcile. He’s had like, 6 years since the announcement that we were coming after terrorists.

    Strange that I haven’t heard about him seeking any reconciliation then.

    You have to wonder: if you kill one bad guy at the expense of starting a humanitarian crisis (many innocent people dying of starvation), is it worth it?

    -lgm

    You can’t “start” a humanitarian crisis that’s already been going on for years.

  106. #106
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 am, mojo said:

    Coulda had it a while ago if he hadn’t kept hiding like a scared little girl…

  107. #107
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 am, sonofdy said:

    What they don’t know is that they get to be the virgins.

  108. #108
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am, henryinga said:

    I’m glad when I read of some scumbag being taken out. I just wish we could start taking them out in bunches, like bananas.

  109. #109
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 am, JBro said:

    On May 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am, Bruce said:

    gippergirl (#78) is a freaking moron for thinking that some two-bit thug in Somalia’s death makes her safer. She’s more of the problem, not a solution.

    Bruce, consider for just a moment that 20 years ago OBL was just some “two-bit thug”. Had he been killed when LtCol North first addressed him as a terrorist 3000 individuals would not have lost their lives. How many news reports do you have to watch containing bombings throughout Europe and the Middle East before you become aware of the situation? Wake up to the very real fact that we are facing a dangerous enemy that wants to kill us and will come to our country if we refuse to fight him in his.

    By the way, I believe you owe the GipperGirl an apology…

  110. #110
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 am, gandolphxx said:

    This is for lgm …

    Few apart from his small band of fanatical followers will mourn the passing of Aden Hashi Ayro, the leader of Somali’s Islamist insurrection.

    Analysis: murderous Islamic leader will not be missed

  111. #111
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    #46 AJ, what if those ‘virgins’ turn out to be lesbians?

    Why do you think there are so many female homicide bombers these days?

  112. #112
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 pm, Pixel_Dust_1776 said:

    #86……..
    Reconciliation
    is in the eyes of the beholder…
    …..Reconciliation…..back to the dust!!!. From DUST he was made, and to DUST he WAS returned!!!!.
    Those weapons used against that jacka$$ should be called “HXC-PGMS”……Hell Express Cards-Precision Guide Munitions…
    When diplomacy fails…
    Also, I wonder if those Precision Guided Munitions were sprayed with pig’s blood, would they prevent those Islamic terrorists from reaching their “heaven”?…that would be an interesting Psy Ops take, since I think suicide (homicide) bombers go thru a cleansing procedure to be accepted to “heaven”. Just imagine every Islamic terrorist thinking that every weapon used against them has been tainted with an unclean animal….
    LOL!

    Rio
    Semper Fi!

  113. #113
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Watcherdownsouth said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:08 pm, skysoljr82 said:
    #44-lgm.
    Your fascination with movies is NOT helping my kids.

    Skysoljr82, nobody else commented, but I thought it was funny…

    Maybe we can send MO over to chat with them….

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