May Day, May Day: All-purpose, left-wing grievance day; West Coast port shutdowns expected; in-your-face illegal aliens in Chicago; 29 ports down; Los Angeles fizzle

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 1, 2008 07:36 AM

1asoy.jpg 1:40pm Eastern. The illegal alien march in Chicago is underway. His t-shirt says: “I’m illegal. So what?” (Full photo at the Chicago Tribune site.) Live video coverage here.

Scroll down for updates…

Illegal immigration activists and anti-war activists will lead the parades today, but May Day attracts all grievance-mongers.

Here’s another all-purpose, everything-but-the-kitchen-sink “list of demands” (I feel like I’m at Oberlin again) from the “National Immigrant Solidarity Network:”

On May Day 2008, National Immigrant Solidarity Network is calling for a multi-ethnic, decentralized, multi-topic and multi-tactic national day of mobilization to support immigrant workers rights.

1. No to anti-immigrant legislation, and the criminalization of the immigrant communities.
2. No to militarization of the border.
3. No to the immigrant detention and deportation.
4. No to the guest worker program.
5. No to employer sanction and “no match” letters.
6. Yes to a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
7. Yes to speedy family reunification.
8. Yes to civil rights and humane immigration law.
9. Yes to labor rights and living wages for all workers.
10. Yes to the education and LGBT immigrant legislation.

We acknowledges that there’ll be multiple call to actions from across the country to organize May Day 2008, and each coalition will present their sets of demands. We should respects each other organizing and encourage and supports everyone’s issues:

1) Multi-ethnic, Decentralized and Multi-topic mobilization: while everyone will pledge to support immigrant workers rights at May Day 2007, local groups can choose to includes any other topics for their mobilizations: civil rights, anti-war, Katrina, labor rights, health care…., etc.

2) Decentralized Multi-Tactic May Day organizing: We will encourage everyone to organize their actions at May Day, but will let local groups to decide what they want to do at the day: march, boycott, strike, lunch action, vigil, community event, conference or congressional lobby day, etc.Understanding the connections between our individual conditions of life and the lives of people everywhere in the word allows us to come together and organize across all borders. WE NEED to link the connections between: wars in Africa, south America, Asia, Iraq, Palestine & Korea with sweatshops in Asia as well as in Los Angeles, New York; international arm sales and WTO, FTAA, NAFTA & CAFTA with AIDS, hunger, child labors and child solider; multinational corporations and economic exploitation with racism and poverty at home–then we can win the struggle.Let’s all come together, on May Day 2008, to build a new immigrant rights and civil rights movements!

Their calendar includes the “Festival of Tolerance and Unity” in Aurora, CO; a nationwide call to walk out of school to protest standardized testing; and a protest by longshoremen in San Francisco.

Good luck to the law enforcement officers across the country–especially in L.A.–who will have to contend with the attention-craving, law-ignoring ruffians and thugs turning out today for the annual p.c. powwow. They’ll need it.

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Update 9:30am Eastern (hat tip – reader William Amos): I mentioned the longshoremen’s protest in the SF Bay Area. Looks like a shutdown of ports is expected all along the West Coast. Via KING5 TV in Seattle:

May Day rallies are expected to draw thousands of protestors Thursday, and on the Seattle waterfront, longshoremen may join in.

KING 5 got late word Wednesday that longshoremen up and down the West Coast may not show up for work Thursday to protest the Iraq War.

So far, the local longshoremen’s union has declined to comment about a possible walkout. In fact, a union arbitrator has warned them that such a walkout violates union contract and is illegal, but Thursday is May Day when workers traditionally celebrate the labor movement.

Three separate marches are scheduled for Thursday which could cause major traffic delays – two during the noon hour, and the biggest one is expected to shut down traffic in downtown Seattle for almost 2 hours during the evening commute.

Starting at 4 p.m., it runs from Judkins Park on the north side of I-90 and makes its way down 4th Avenue to the Seattle Center, ending at about 6:30 p.m. Metro warned bus riders to prepare for a major disruption.

An arbitrator has ordered the union that represents dockworkers at West Coast ports to tell members they must report to work on Thursday and not take the day off to protest U.S. military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. A wide enough walkout could cause a slowdown at the West Coast ports – the nation’s major gateway for cargo from the Far East.

Arbitrator John Kagel issued his decision Wednesday after holding a hearing by phone with the employers’ group, the Pacific Maritime Association, and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, according to a document outlining the ruling. The union previously asked employers to clear the way for members to skip out on the day shift to protest the war, but employers refused the request and were backed by the arbitrator last week. Despite that decision, word continued to spread on the Internet of a May 1 walkout by longshore workers and details of protests, including a march in San Francisco.

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Update 8:30 Pacific, by See-Dubya: More about that port shutdown…the longshoremen’s union leadership was getting cold feet about shutting down the ports. ILWU officers weren’t going to bless work stoppage to protest the war:

ILWU executives had initially given their blessing to an eight-hour work stoppage during the busy day shift, which was suggested two months ago during a union caucus in San Francisco….

The union withdrew its support shortly after the Pacific Maritime Association denied the union’s request for the walkout. An arbitrator ruled last week that the union had to inform its members about the change in plans.

As a result, any work stoppage held Thursday will be initiated by the union’s rank-and-file members, not by union executives, according to Merrilees.

“In light of those developments, we hope that May 1 will come and go without disruption,” said Steve Getzug, a spokesman for the PMA, which represents the West Coast’s shippers.

Hey, don’t blame us, the union executives say. Blame… Cynthia McKinney!

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Update 1:50pm Eastern. Things are heating up in Chicago. The Trib estimates about 2,000 have shown up to demand non-enforcement of our immigration laws. Many students are playing hookie to attend:

“We want to change the immigration laws. We have to support our parents,” he added. Marlene Rivera, 15, a Kelly High School freshman, boarded buses along with about 200 other students at the school.

She and others from a school club called Latinos United spent the last month preparing for the march. Standing with three friends who held Mexican flags, she said they wanted elected officials as well as the presidential candidates to know that youth supports changing immigration law.

“We want to help out and let them know that it’s just not the grown-ups, but young people too,” she said.

Elizabeth Quiroz, 14, another Kelly freshman, said many of her classmates have been born in the U.S. to undocumented parents and live with the fear their parents may be deported at any time.

“If parents get sent back to Mexico, then the kids are going to be on their own,” she said.

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Update, 2:40PM Eastern–See-Dubya: Gerard Vanderleun’s observations and reflections on the May Day celebrations in Seattle are a must read: The Banality of Sedition.

Update 4:20pm Eastern. All 29 West Coast ports are down.

Update 6:04pm Eastern. Protest Shooter has a photo essay of SF’s circus. This one says it all:

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Update 7:50pm Eastern. Freedom Folks file their report from Chicago.

Update 8:34pm Eastern. Slapstick Politics reports on the Denver rally.

Update 9:00pm Eastern. Los Angeles’s Grand March fizzles.

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  1. #308144
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:34 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    CA-LA-LAPD officers assaulted last year May 1″07–guess who was blamed?….THE LAPD!

    They had to go to re-training to “effecively” deal w/ the poor – victimized illegals so that they could “deal” with today’s “peaceful” marchers.

    All of this is getting awfully old.

  2. #308146
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:35 pm, corona said:

    My native city stresses edjumuhkashun as always:

    “Meanwhile, school officials in Los Angeles have prepared for possible May Day student walkouts with a broad-ranging plan emphasizing safety over disciplinary actions.

    Walking out of school to participate in a march or rally will not result in an automatic suspension. Instead, school staff members intend to accompany student marchers to keep them as safe and monitored as possible.”

  3. #308148
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:35 pm, xler8bmw said:

    I will say it again! We need to build Hadrians Wall on both borders

  4. #308163
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    For those of you who missed Mojo’s comment earlier:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 2:30 pm, mojo said:
    OPEN CALENDAR! Yee-haw!

    Here’s the link. BWAHAHAHA!!! I made an entry on August 31st. I know you are more creative than I am. Now go have fun!!!!

  5. #308180
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:53 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #196 that was fun I just added an event for tomorrow. A mexican holiday retreat

  6. #308186
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:56 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I made an entry for Sept 1….. great idea!!!!!!!

  7. #308187
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:57 pm, abstractmind said:

    For your reading pleasure….
    On the calendar, i chose a lovely day!

    Cinco de Mayo! May 5th!

    some crazy loon named Shiver Metimbers put an event on the calendar, no telling who that is ;)

  8. #308192
    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Shiver that was too funny!

  9. #308194
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:02 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Shiver ? sheer genius!

  10. #308195
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm, abstractmind said:

    I will admit, I borrowed that name from someone else online, who does scam baiting against 419 scammers. I just love the name, so…but not claiming credit for the title, anyway :)

  11. #308199
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm, allrsn said:

    What is the title and date of shivers post?

  12. #308202
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm, xler8bmw said:

    May 5th United we march

  13. #308204
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    #53…How can they pander for votes of people that can’t register, because they’re illegal. Thet should be listening to the REAL citizens.

    Another BS policy of the Democrat Party. They do everything in their power to give these people the opportunity to actually vote in our elections, despite having no rights thereto.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  14. #308206
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm, Boomer said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 3:35 pm, xler8bmw said:
    I will say it again! We need to build Hadrians Wall on both borders

    I’m with you on that one and I bet our military could build it a lot faster and stronger than the Romans built theirs. We built the ALCAN highway during WWII in about 18 months in some of the worst environmental conditions possible. Think what we could do with the building technology available today!

  15. #308209
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm, Romeo13 said:

    FIRE THEM ALL!!!

    Hitting the American economy when we are in a slowdown just tells me where their priorities lie…

    And it aint with America.

    Think of all the independent truck drivers who are getting hosed today… and they are already in trouble due to high Gas Prices.

    Tired of it… all of my pity has been used…

  16. #308225
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:14 pm, RaisedRight said:

    Alright… I couldn’t help taking advantage of the open calendar (thanks mojo and Lan) so I posted something for the 4th of July. Not particularly clever, but I had to add something.

  17. #308230
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:16 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Do the protester get to see our creativity! If so I would love to be fly on that wall LMAO!

  18. #308233
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:18 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Can you imainge 20 million of us going to mexico and making these damands of them while threatning to take 10% of their nation by sheer numbers????

    Hey I think you may be on to something!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  19. #308234
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm, RaisedRight said:

    xler8bmw – did you post your real email on that calendar? I would love to see the emails you get for that.

  20. #308236
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm, abstractmind said:

    I believe Shiver is having a Halloween party…guessing he’ll dress as a pirate. Readers should check the theme of the costume party ;)

  21. #308239
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    That’s the problem, chief. It’s ILLEGAL. Therefore, by definition, CRIMINAL.

    Yikes!

    Can we please get away from this illegal=criminal thing? It truly kills our credibility.

    Driving too fast and parking in front of someone’s driveway, for example, are both illegal … Neither is criminal.

    Illegal presence in this country should be criminal, whether is is or not, but don’t be a fool and oversimplify.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  22. #308241
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Raised, yes I did and I is smiling ear to ear can’t wait. Let me go check.

    It’s not my usual account though.

  23. #308248
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    remember the first protest a couple years ago, before the PR handlers told them it wasn’t playing well in Peoria.?

    they had all mexican flags, they were spitting and trashing American flags and symbols, they were screaming anti-white, anti-American slurs, they were bullying and intimidating people and motorists, they were demanding everything but the moon, they were acting like foreign scumbags.

    then the PR handlers told them to get more American flags, to get more families, to act real polite on camera, IOW to not be themselves, but to paint a phony false picture of their real demands and behavior and feelings.

    I just want us to put the deport in deportment

  24. #308253
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Off topic, but rightwingrocker you do realize that you can link your webpage to your name when you post by going into your profile and putting that link into the “webpage” section?

    Having it as a sig line after every post is a bit much.

    I’ll put that together, but I will continue with the “sig line”. I happen to like it.

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  25. #308262
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Oh, and I don’t give a rat’s ass if I hear it, to be honest.

    However, when doing business, it’s more than reasonable to expect people to speak English when they are in an English-speaking country. Do you think my relatives in Germany get to speak German around here?

    Go to hell.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  26. #308266
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm, Romeo13 said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:21 pm, rightwingrocker

    By definition any illegal working in this country is commiting fraud.

    They don’t have the correct papers, and so they are either using FRAUD and identity theft to “pay taxes” (FELONYS),

    or,

    Like Wesley Snipes, they are not paying taxes (and yes, hes going to jail for it).

    So, either way, felonys which makes them Criminals.

  27. #308283
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    and what is the reaction of McCain to this?

    you can bet Uncle Samnesty won’t say a friggin negative word about them.

    he tried to sneak thru in the middle of the night a total surrender and giveaway to these invaders last year.

    never forget what McCain tried to do.

  28. #308284
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    By definition any illegal working in this country is commiting fraud.

    So, either way, felonys which makes them Criminals.

    I agree, my point is that there are things that are illegal that are not criminal, and it bothers me that poeple oversimplify by saying that the simple illegality of these people’s actions makes them criminals. It is the felonious level of their actions that does.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  29. #308287
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm, corona said:

    So, any apologies from those who went ballistic over Dubai Ports World?

  30. #308288
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Every reader if this blog knows the right also has a huge list of petty grievances: speaking Spanish or other non-English languages in public, posting non-American flags on ethnic restaurants, saying anything positive about Muslims or the religion of Islam, suggesting that some official act of the US government not made by a recent Democratic President is imperfect (ethnic cleansing of Indians, slavery, massacres in the Philippines, ..).

    1) The Natives massacred themselves long before Europeans came. Learn some history beyond what white guilt teachers and profs profess to you. Maybe if they weren’t so busy hitting on their students, this wouldn’t be a problem. The expansion of the US was driven by gold, not the pillaging of Natives.

    2) Dem greivances:

    a) taking personal responsibility

    b) I might not be the victim

    c) All minorities will befriend me if I admit to the crimes of my forefathers and hang my head in FAKE shame

    d) Praying and mentioning God in school.

    e) American armed forces recruiting immigrants to give them a chance to serve our great nation

    f) The general practice of Judaism and Christianity.

  31. #308290
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm, alamedaman said:

    it was funny today at work, I work in a kitchen in San Diego with lots of Mexicans, and I asked why they weren’t walking out or causing ruckus. They said their jobs are more important than some “pinche rally”. Good to know that not everyone is a leftist idiot.

  32. #308295
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    paying a smuggler and a counterfeiter starts you off as dishonest to begin with.

  33. #308308
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm, mojack420 said:

    they even brought out a few floats for todays march in santa rosa Calif
    1 float

    2
    3

    IDIOT

  34. #308315
    On May 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm, terrig said:

    #162 Libertybelle, if you live in the Chicago area (Glen Ellyn) it sounds like you were sitting with my brother’s wife. I know she had something this morning because she was complaining about it Sunday when I was calling to talk to my brother.
    MattM, you’re a brave person as are your classmates. I hope you don’t “pay” though with your grade. I found out my freshman year the hard way when I got a “D” for basically saying “I think Ronald Reagan will go down as one of our greatest Presidents!”. When I re-took the Government class in the summer the GA asked all 300 of us how many of us were “repeat offenders” and how many of us had Dr. Roy Zillman. About 270 hands went up. He then said that if it wasn’t for old Roy, he wouldn’t have a summer job. He then said to be careful because these profs have no real power in their lives and they take what power they do have on students with whom they disagree. We can probably assume that mathboy does the same thing to his students. He has no real power in his life so he can make students miserable by tormenting any conservative students who have the misfortune to take his stupid math class.

  35. #308329
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Mohawk said:

    I COULD CARE LESS IF YOUR ILLEGAL CRIMINAL PARENTS GET DEPORTED!!!

    Funny how they carry a f’ing mexican flag while DEMANDING rights that American citizens have! UNREAL!!!

    This should be the biggest round up by ICE!

    Unreal our government is allowing this to happen and the illegals are thumbing their noses at all of us!

  36. #308330
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm, Alaskan said:

    It may be too early to judge, but from some of the reports I’ve read, it sounds like attendance at these grand marchs has fallen way off.

    We get bigger crowds in South Boston for St. Pat’s parade.

  37. #308334
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm, libertybelle said:

    AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

    So while these selfish, greedy fools prance around, and the useful idiots shut down the docks, I get to anxiously stay awake at night knowing that my boyfriend, and all of our brave soldiers in Iraq may not be getting shipments of equipment that they need to keep them safe – as well as the millions of Iraqis and Afghanistanis that we are helping.

    Somebody please wake me from this nightmare. My grandparents must be turning in their graves.

  38. #308345
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm, Mohawk said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:37 am, tre said:

    #7 30 Pieces of Silver

    Here in Oklahoma we passed a law punishing any employer who knowingly hires illegals. We also passed a law making English the offical language of the state.
    There sure isn’t much support for them here.

    Looks like I am moving to Oklahoma! You got any room for a hard working American that is not pro illegal immigrant!

    If so I am there!

  39. #308349
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    Shrillary tells O’Reilly flat out she will NOT do anything about illegal sanctuary cities.

    so, we’ve got 3 illegal alien lovers and boosters running for the WH.

    what a disgrace.

  40. #308366
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm, libertybelle said:

    I agree with Terrig: MattM, keep it up! Universities are frighteningly fascist today, and the only way we can win them back is through awesomely courageous students like you!

  41. #308372
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm, rooster said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm, Alaskan said:
    It may be too early to judge, but from some of the reports I’ve read, it sounds like attendance at these grand marchs has fallen way off.

    We get bigger crowds in South Boston for St. Pat’s parade.

    Too bad. I was hoping for large, obnoxious, crowds of illegals demanding everything for nothing.

    Because of the low turn out it will be spun by the msm and the average tv educated citizen will remain clueless to the invasion.

  42. #308405
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm, xler8bmw said:

    Mojack in your idiot link to the far right we have one ready to burst with an anchor baby!

  43. #308407
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm, gippergirl said:

    just an excuse to pay hookey…

    completely shameful…

  44. #308409
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm, cf said:

    If our laws were being enforced, the Government would have rounded up all these agitators, asked to see proof that they were citizens, and deported any of them who were here illegally. These agitators are mad because their handouts aren’t big enough!

  45. #308410
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm, ProtestShooter said:

    I have my report up from the morning San Francisco march if anybody’s interested:

    http://www.protestshooter.com/20080501MayDay/

  46. #308418
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pm, lgm said:

    I just googled polling data on immigration. The numbers depend on how a question is asked so different polls on seemingly similar questions come out different. One interesting statistic is

    Still, 65% of voters would be willing to support a compromise including a “very long path to citizenship”

    This shows that on some questions, the general public is less rigid than many posters here.

  47. #308433
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    All 29 West Coast ports are down.

    Al Qaeda must be jealous.

  48. #308434
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:18 pm, DesertLover said:

    Accidentally posted this in wrong thread … was intended for this one …

    Yippee !!!! …

    Just posted on the Phoenix Newspaper blog …

    So, where are the immigration marchers?
    Sometimes, the biggest news in town is an event that DOESN’T occur.

    For instance, where are the immigration marchers? In 2006, we had 100,000 on the streets of Phoenix. In 2007, there were 15,000.

    Today — zero.

    Zip.

    Nada

    Now … about that fence …

  49. #308439
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    continued from the paragraph lgm took his quote from:

    provided that “the proposal required the aliens to pay fines and learn English” and that the compromise “would truly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the country.” The proposal, specifically described as a compromise, was said to include “strict employer penalties for hiring illegal aliens, building a barrier along the Mexican border and other steps to significantly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the United States.”

    The willingness of voters to accept compromise and allow a path to citizenship suggests both pragmatism and a strong desire to do what it takes to reduce the ongoing flow of illegal immigration.

    Odd, I could have swore that is what the majority of the polls were showing.

    Pay fines, learn English, check.
    Reduce number of new immigrants coming in, check
    Strict employer penalties, check.
    Secured border including a barrier, and additional security to maintain low illegal entry into US, check.

    I think that May 23, 2007 article was fairly well spot on. Assuming you read the whole thing. :D

    More from that article that appears to match other polls:

    The enforcement side of the debate is clearly where the public passion lies on the issue. Seventy-two percent (72%) of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration.” That view is held by 89% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats, and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

    Advocates of “comprehensive” reform have taken to arguing that those who want an enforcement-only policy must explain how they would deal with the 12 million illegal aliens already living in the country. The public reaction to that question appears to be “Why?” Only 29% of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to legalize the status of illegal aliens already in the United States.”

    I wonder what happened to that border fence we supposedly paid for? Weird.

  50. #308441
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm, DesertLover said:

    Link to the rest of the blog post …

    What Marchers???

  51. #308448
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm, Speakup said:

    “The banality of evil”

    How to trade the archeo cold war for the neo hot peace.

  52. #308449
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:29 pm, ajmontana said:

    That’s a great read dl….. 8)

    wait till you hear el skankys lame excuse for not going after sanctuary cities on O’Reilly tonight…..

  53. #308459
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:35 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    sorry Alas. griz.

    NEVER. no path to citizenship in any way whatsoever for anyone who is here illegally, unless they are in the military. only those few and their family. period.

    that poll is a farce because it does not give a tough, no-nonsense enforcement and self- deportation option, such as the tough stringent law in OK, that has been a huge success.

  54. #308463
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:37 pm, rooster said:

    This shows that on some questions, the general public is less rigid than many posters here.

    The numbers depend on how a question is asked so different polls on seemingly similar questions come out different.

    Wow! I almost agree with this moron.

    Question: Is littlegirlyman an imbecile or an idiot?

    OK, I was wrong, no matter how you pose the question, this guy comes out on the high side of stupidity….according to 95% of voters.

    my bag

  55. #308465
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:38 pm, cicerokid said:

    Shiver me timbers! I wanna play! I wanna play! May 9th, I’m hosting a reenactment of The Battle of Resaca de la Palma when General Zachary Taylor kicked 4000 Mexican butts back across the Rio Grande with 1700 US soldiers in 1846. See the calender…

  56. #308467
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:39 pm, DesertLover said:

    ajmontana

    today was also the kick-off day for the recall effort for the Mayor of Phoenix … an open borders sanctuary type that refuses to let the city of Phoenix officers ask about legal status …

    add to that the fact that every day another local law enforcement group declares their support for Joe in this year’s elections …

    and that includes the officers of the police chief from one valley city that is running against Joe this year …

    Hey … we’re the 5th largest city in the country and the march was shut down … sounds like a good start to me …

  57. #308474
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:44 pm, xler8bmw said:

    #238 lgm once again you fail! There are caveats to that 65% pal!

    Instead of picking an choosing to support your argument let’s post the whole survey of respondents shall we?

    A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey conducted Monday and Tuesday night shows that just 26% of American voters favor passage of the legislation. Forty-eight percent (48%) are opposed while 26% are not sure. The bi-partisan agreement among influential Senators and the White House has been met with bi-partisan opposition among the public. The measure is opposed by 47% of Republicans, 51% of Democrats, and 46% of those not affiliated with either major party.

    The enforcement side of the debate is clearly where the public passion lies on the issue. Seventy-two percent (72%) of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration.” That view is held by 89% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats, and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

    Advocates of “comprehensive” reform have taken to arguing that those who want an enforcement-only policy must explain how they would deal with the 12 million illegal aliens already living in the country. The public reaction to that question appears to be “Why?” Only 29% of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to legalize the status of illegal aliens already in the United States.”

    Thirty-eight percent (38%) of Democrats believe that legalization is Very Important. Just 22% of Republicans and 27% of unaffiliated voters share that view.

    Still, 65% of voters would be willing to support a compromise including a “very long path to citizenship” provided that “the proposal required the aliens to pay fines and learn English” and that the compromise “would truly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the country.” The proposal, specifically described as a compromise, was said to include “strict employer penalties for hiring illegal aliens, building a barrier along the Mexican border and other steps to significantly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the United States.”

    The willingness of voters to accept compromise and allow a path to citizenship suggests both pragmatism and a strong desire to do what it takes to reduce the ongoing flow of illegal immigration. The challenge for proponents of the legislation is to convince voters that they are serious about enforcement and that the proposal will truly work. Until that can be accomplished, public opposition to immigration reform is likely to remain very high. In an era where voters overwhelmingly believe that members of Congress are more interested in their careers than the public good, that will be a difficult goal to achieve.

    These survey results are consistent with other recent polling data showing that most Americans favor an enforcement-only reform bill. Support drops when a “path to citizenship” is added to the mix. President Bush’s Job Approval ratings dip every time comprehensive immigration reform tops the news.

    In our question measuring support for the Senate bill, Rasmussen Reports did not describe the details of the proposed legislation. We asked survey respondents how closely they have followed news stories about “an immigration reform agreement reached by the Bush Administration and a bi-partisan group of Senators.” Seventy-eight percent (78%) said they were following the story Somewhat or Very Closely. We then asked respondents if they favored or opposed “the immigration reform proposal agreed to last week.”

  58. #308490
    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:54 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    550 criminals marched in Minneapolis…. hide you cretins, we’ll find you!

  59. #308512
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm, DougT said:

    I’m all for a good day of civil disobedience, but I don’t extend that support to illegal immigrants. They are here in contempt of our laws. There are no First Amendment rights extended to them. If arrested, start the deportation.

  60. #308514
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm, mojack420 said:

    #234 xler8bmw
    On May 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm,

    yeah i am sure next year the anchor will be in a stroller waving a Mexican flag and wearing a CHE GUEVARA bib

  61. #308516
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm, DesertLover said:
    Link to the rest of the blog post …

    What Marchers???

    As to Los Angeles, seems there are about 2-3000 downtown, many of theme students, down considerably from last two years. The rabble in their midst may want to test the LAPD’s ordered soft approach to them tonight at MacArthur Park again.

    On May 1st, 2008 at 6:54 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:
    550 criminals marched in Minneapolis…. hide you cretins, we’ll find you!

    Such a paltry number. If immigration laws were actually enforced, they’d all be sorted out and the illegals among them would be in process for a speedy return to their beloved native lands by now : )

  62. #308523
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm, Jim M. said:

    It seems that any action that shuts down all of our West Coast ports, even for a day, is a national security issue. Every one of those workers who failed to show up should be fired. Those are not low paying jobs we’re talking about. They are jobs that would be filled very quickly.

    I also hope that the shippers and companies impacted by this sue the pants off the union. Their actions have huge economic consequences.

    Since the ports are run or at least controlled by the federal or state governments, it would appear that the government has the ability to insure this will not happen in the future.

  63. #308545
    On May 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    if someone is waving a mexican flag, by all means return him to his beloved land posthaste.

    I believe in open borders in one direction

    SOUTH

    exit only

  64. #308551
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm, Romeo13 said:

    Hmmm… no news of a march here in Denver…

    But thats probably becasue of the 5 inches of fresh global warming we had today…

    See… even Mom Nature doesn’t like these marches… LOL

  65. #308562
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:17 pm, DougT said:

    Jim M (#254),

    If all the ports shut down and all the workers were fired that failed to show, who exactly would replace them?

    Is longshoreman work really that easy?

    How long would it take to reopen the ports?

    This isn’t quite the same as the PATCO strike under Reagan. Plus, this was a one day disruption. Hell, given that it’s Union labor every day, it’ll probably not even be noticed.

  66. #308600
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm, guitarguy said:
    Folks, if we can’t resurrect Ronald Reagan, or if we can’t elect a candidate who actually has a pair between his legs, then I’m guessing we’re heading for another civil war.
    For the life of me, I just don’t see any other way of getting OUR country back.
    Something about a ‘…well armed militia…’ keeps running thu my head….

    VIVA LE REVOLUTION….. VIVA LE PURGE…

    Well kate and I had a fine time today. She is still working like the lady she is and always right on point.

  67. #308601
    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 1:47 pm, expat said:
    #111

    Got on a tangent. That is the wording for the 14th ammendment, lgm et al, and it clearly states that you need to be born subject to the jurisdiction of the united states. If you are here illegally and are not following the laws of the land and do not subject yourself to the jurisdiction of the United States you are not a citizen. With the states and the courts not subjecting the illegals to US law it only reinforces what the founding fathers wanted for our great country.

    That’s exactly the problem. The courts and local officials are interpretting the law they way they choose, rather than the way the people want it. We need legislation to make this clarification.

  68. #308603
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:00 pm, mojack420 said:

    DougT #257

    I guess your talking about crane operators. other then that i can waist time, milk the clock and drink coffee with the best of them and i could use a new job .

  69. #308626
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pm, sbw999 said:

    More dispatches from Nutville….a/k/a the United States circa 2008. Illegal aliens marching IN THE FACE of law enforcement….law breakers DEMANDING rights….Fifty years ago, these POS would have been hauled off to jail, had the chit beat out of them…and dumped across the border; never to dare come back. These days the criminals demand capitulation. they demand capitualtion. I cannot even wrap my mind around how warped that is. It makes you dizzy. Nutville, 2008.

  70. #308635
    On May 1st, 2008 at 9:24 pm, ajmontana said:

    The smell of frying sausages and bacon-wrapped hot dogs filled the air.

    ahahhahahah too funny.

  71. #308679
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:24 pm, otcconan said:

    So…I missed something. At what point did a holiday known for Russians parading missiles through Red Square become an American tradition?

  72. #308685
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pm, Jim M. said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 8:17 pm, DougT said:
    Jim M (#254),

    If all the ports shut down and all the workers were fired that failed to show, who exactly would replace them?

    Is longshoreman work really that easy?

    How long would it take to reopen the ports?

    This isn’t quite the same as the PATCO strike under Reagan. Plus, this was a one day disruption. Hell, given that it’s Union labor every day, it’ll probably not even be noticed.

    Sorry, but it is the same. The US cannot afford to allow a labor union to have the ability to bring a halt to the flow of military and other supplies, expecially when we are involved in a war that relies on ship borne resupply. It sets a dangerous precendent for the future.

    And anyone who wants to protest a cause by laying out of work is free to do so, but they must be prepared to deal with the consequences. No one is indispensible.

    In the ATC strike, we had the military fill in where needed, and we certainly have that capacity if needed.

  73. #308686
    On May 1st, 2008 at 10:32 pm, rightisright said:

    GaMidnightRider said:

    On May 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm, guitarguy said:
    Folks, if we can’t resurrect Ronald Reagan, or if we can’t elect a candidate who actually has a pair between his legs, then I’m guessing we’re heading for another civil war.
    For the life of me, I just don’t see any other way of getting OUR country back.
    Something about a ‘…well armed militia…’ keeps running thu my head….

    Sorry to say it, I do not see any other way out of this since our elitist politicians have sold us out. They do not care about the
    American citizens, only themselves and their rotten pompous cohorts.
    Now i have to ask just where will the law enforcers(military, police and fire) stand…next to turn coat Bush and his impotent congress that takes great pleasure in deriding and shackling them from doing their job or the citizenry that holds them in high esteem?

  74. #308699
    On May 1st, 2008 at 11:15 pm, atxcowgirl said:

    I had a good laugh over this..
    Central American immigrants seek rights in Mexico

  75. #308713
    On May 1st, 2008 at 11:44 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    NEW T-SHIRT:

    BOUNTY HUNTER!
    SI! SE PUEDE!!!
    hehehehehehehe

  76. #308730
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 am, flenser said:

    Time to stop calling them immigrants and start calling them what they are – colonizers.

    The Manhattan Indians could give us some warnings on how that works out, if they were still around.

  77. #308775
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 2:50 am, puhiawa said:

    Too bad Bush lives in another country. He might have done some good here.

  78. #308781
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 am, Truesoldier said:

    I want to know why ICE is not heading to these events and making massive arrests. I bet we could reduce the illegal alien population by a bunch if they would actually do there job.

  79. #309094
    On May 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 am, Urban Infidel said:

    Here’s my photo report from May Day Union Square New York City 2008.

    Urban Infidel

  80. #310062
    On May 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm, Dread Pirate Roberts VIII said:

    You can bet that ICE would come out of their group stupor if 200 Americans with axe handles showed up and started beating the shit out of illegal alien Marxists.

    Why some laws and not others?

  81. #310099
    On May 3rd, 2008 at 2:41 pm, sbw999 said:

    Hey if we take it, we deserve it. We should be having deportation parties, and raids on these protests. Since all we do (law enforcement, the government)is sit on our azzes; then we deserve to be disrespected and walked on by these lawbreaking scumbags and their scumbag enablers. Period, end of story.

  82. #310100
    On May 3rd, 2008 at 2:44 pm, sbw999 said:

    On May 3rd, 2008 at 1:41 pm, Dread Pirate Roberts VIII said:
    You can bet that ICE would come out of their group stupor if 200 Americans with axe handles showed up and started beating the shit out of illegal alien Marxists.

    Why some laws and not others?

    Give it time, it is going to happen if the government does not act. And when it does, I will support it 100%. This is OUR Country (US citizens) not the governments. If the government does not act in accordance with the will of the majority, the people will act for themselves.

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