So out of the whole state, only 6% voted against the idea? Or were there only 6% of Hawaiians in the state to vote “no.”

RLR

dude, they had a kingdom, ruled by a monarch [and later an elected legislature]. It was recognized as an independent country by britain, the u.s., and others from the early 1800s through 1893. where it goes off the rails is in 1893 a group of businessmen overthrew the monarchy and established a civil government. in 1898 said government petitioned for and became annexed by the u.s. in 1959, after years of manuevering, the annexed territory was admitted to the union. THAT’S what the folks are pissed off about …

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=182062

Vet arrested for wearing USMC Sniper t shirt to council meeting.

b.o. is screwed up due to his parents being screwed up, his wife being screwed up, and his pastor being screwed up — his time in HI was mostly during his adolescence where he went to the absolute pinnacle of the pyramid top private high school — so only so much of the blame can be placed there …

“Is the cheapest gas still at Costco?”

prolly — it’s out of my way so i stick to whatever Aloha or 76 happens to be uncrowded when the mood strikes

/thank God for a short commute — that’s distance-wise, not time-wise!

/sorry

2. As a state that has a heavy military presence, why are the loons given so much influence in matters of say, practice fields for military fliers?
50+ years of one-party rule in the legislature tends to bring about such silliness …

3. Why is housing so expensive in Hawaii? Why is fuel a lot more expensive in Hawaii then it is on the mainland?
for housing, supply and demand — we’ve got many, many retirees [not only from other states but from all over the Pacific] who are willing to pay astronomical sums for their “shangra-las”, and joe and mary public kinda get stuck with tiny, way overpriced bungalows.
for fuel, we have 2 refineries practially next door to each other to serve all the islands. however, at the moment we are at ~$3.80 for regular on O’ahu, which apparently is less than what the Bay Area is paying [so i've heard]

4. What is going on with the GOP of Hawaii? What’s your take on that?
Ann Coulter wrote years ago “between the criminals, the elderly, the welfare freeloaders and the union members, the democrat candidate starts with about 40% of the electorate.” here i would spot them another 9% from those constituencies. so, do the math.

the gop, stupdily, got associated with the rich land & business barons soon after statehood — they’ve been fighting it ever since. It is my hope that the gov. can win one of our senate seats soon, our lt. gov. can succeed her, and we can run SOMEBODY for state senate and other local offices that can finally get a foothold and get rid of the institutionalized entitlement mentality that shows up in too many places here …
/allowing private enterprise to succeed here would be a really good start …

Buckaroo said #69:

Buck,

No offense or anything but many people aren’t being served by their state government in Hawaii anymore. I’ve heard experiences from military folks who’ve been transfered there about how tough housing is to find, especially on Oahu. The housing prices are astromical and the crowdedness not very appealing.

I meant no disrespect and was referring to the “nativist” movement that is growing in Hawaii. I wonder if you realize that. I realize that there are many good things happening, and good folks that live in Hawaii. Perhaps, I should have clarified my statement. I have some questions, though, for you:

1. Are you being wisely served by your RINO of a governor?

2. As a state that has a heavy military presence, why are the loons given so much influence in matters of say, practice fields for military fliers?

3. Why is housing so expensive in Hawaii? Why is fuel a lot more expensive in Hawaii then it is on the mainland?

4. What is going on with the GOP of Hawaii? What’s your take on that?

I have nothing against the place but they’re a little bit like some of the New England states (like Vermont). Hawaii is so left that I’m surprised it isn’t teetering into the sea.

um, as a resident of the STATE of Hawai’i, i just wish you would sthu.

having lived here for 5 years [and it's tough to get more haole than myself] i’m saddened to see all the folks here relating their horrible stories of discrimination. not only saddened, but a bit confused ’cause i’m not sure what part of town you would have to be in to have those experiences as they surely don’t mirror mine [fwiw].

this is a unique plot of land, and we have many positives. that’s not to minimize the negatives, which are surely present — and the fools who actually think they are going to “restore” the kingdom are chief among them. they, however, represent the fringe [too large of a fringe one might argue, but the fringe nonetheless]. these type of demonstrations are fairly routine, and are met with a shrug by the vast majority of the populace, who, like many other places, is just trying to live day to day, go to work, raise the kids, etc. etc.

#9 Mister P
“…What the Hawaiians really want today is to have the same rights and Native American tribes….”

You are right, they and the American Indians should have the same rights — the same rights, no more no less no different, than other American citizens. Which is to say the Hawiians and the American Indians should be told ‘the war has been over for generations, you lost, welcome to the United States of America.’

For the record I agree with that. It does them no good to hang on to a lost past. I just can’t get excited about this event, because frankly there is not much to it. A few people have gotten caught up in a drama of self-importance, using their own heritage as a setting.

It is unfortunately as there is so much to me proud of in the Hawaii culture. The music, the dance, the aloha.

But we can not roll back the clock (as the UN did for Israel for some reason). The past is the past.