Subsidizing gangs to gang-bang?
I thought the D.C. police had won the liberal lunacy award of the week with their Orwellian crime-fighting strategy of renaming gangs “crews.”
Los Angeles may edge them out, though.
Fox 11 reports that tax dollars in L.A. meant for gang prevention went to hardened gang criminals. That’s right. City anti-gang money is going to convicted criminal gang-bangers who are hired as “gang intervention” specialists–while continuing their criminal activity.
The conduit? L.A. City Councilwoman Janice Hahn, who justifies the public pay-offs to gang members as a way to “keep the peace.”
Make sure to watch the whole report–especially the bit about “Bow Wow.”
Much more at This Goes to 11.
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There’s a very angry part of me that thinks a bullet between they’re eyes would be cheaper.
The sarcastic side of me then wonders between who’s eyes - the gangbangers or the dimwitted libs who think bribery and a blind eye is an enlightened way.
Then I remind myself that I’m just some poor schlub who can do nothing more than shake my head thankful that my parents taught me better.
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Does anybody know what flag is behind Councilwoman Janice Hahn?
Also from flag etiquette “Displaying the Flag Indoors When on display, the flag is accorded the place of honor, always positioned to its own right. Place it to the right of the speaker or staging area or sanctuary. Other flags should be to the left.”
LA city council has placed some other flag on the right.
Umm Hmm, and why don’t we just put pedophiles in charge of crosswalk duty next? Dumb ass’s, we are surrounded by dumb ass’s…………
And they fight Shaw’s law.
I think the Unity One logo is pointing with the wrong finger.
An LAPD officer called in to John and Ken today (KFI 640 AM for those not here near fun city). He said he stopped a guy in Watts wearing the Grape Street Crips colors. Before he got out of the car he stated he was a Gang Interventionist. He repeated several times he worked with Hahn’s office.
Guess he was working undercover….
We should give them her salary instead….
Are the gang bangers just an “alternative city council” ?
Well it looks like they’ve decided to cozy up to violent criminals in LA, and you can bet that as this perversion spreads…the people pushing this defeatist crap will push for more civillian disarmament and if you don’t obey the lawabiding will become the criminal…neat huh? (intentional sarcasm)
Where can I sign up? I too want to be paid by the
governmentunwitting/unwilling taxpayer not to grow things on my farm and not to participate in gang activities. Maybe I can get them to pay me not to engage in dangerous sexual conduct like some other countries recently did (at the behest of the UN if I am not mistaken?)Wow! All I want is my small piece of the American Pie so I can move up to the level of multi-millionaire commoner like our electoral candidates. How do I get to be a common man?
Illegal aliens, gangs, is there anything that this administration and Congress will not do to destroy America? I mean ‘Jihad’ is no longer a word in Washington. Like the Jihadist care!
After watching the Fox 11 news clip and the gangbanger video, we need to bring the military back here. The hoods are just islamofascists with another name. Viewing parts of the gang video, I thought I watching Al-Jazeera.
Janice Hahn is an airhead of the first degree. She is fooling herself that she is stopping the violence when she is actually perpetuating it. Another Lib with her head in the sand.
Treat the gangs (crews) as domestic terrorists like the way Pro-lifers are treated at an abortion clinics during a peaceful protest.
The liberals have been extremely sucessfull with their divide and conqure tactics.Thousands of small little divisions from the School Systems , Taxes , Liberal Judges , PC , Open Borders , Abortion , Legalized Drugs , Kicking God out of everything they can , Loving the UN , Socialism , Removing personal responsibility , The Nanny State , Siding with the jihadist , Al Gore and Jimmy Carter speaking treason against the USA in foreign countries ect ect ….. and now paying gangbangers…..There is no depth of lunacy that these people with stoop to… none….
While I am a die-hard Conservative, I think the divide and conquer politics we have are one of the things that both political parties share in common. Unfortunately, both parties seem intent on leading us down the path to tyranny and destruction.
IMHO
Let me understand this: paying off gang members to keep the peace? Sounds like the old-fashioned protection racket- “As long as you keep paying me ‘protection money’ I’ll make sure nothing ‘bad’ happens to you.”
This confirms something I’ve suspected for quite awhile. In order to be a politician, in this day and age, your intelligence and common sense levels have to be pretty low. That, and corrupted morals, makes one successful in office.
“Know what I’m sayin?”
ah, no.
If Janice Hahn is worth her salt she will get a percentage of the money paid to gangies as a kick back. Perhaps the Mayor has his snout in this same trough and if not then some other kick back venue. L.A. smacks of Mexican government caliber corruption but where is Eliot Ness. Al Capone must be dancing in the street, where ever he now resides, because corruption and crime are now city council revenue streams. Only in Mexico (and by definition L.A. and perhaps Chicago). The land of the free and home of the paid.
No doubt there should be a full investigation by the FBI. Will there be one? Most of us on this site (except the trolls) know the answer to this no-brainer.
had a prob yesterday posting but this morn all a.o.k……
Misguided and dangerous.
Fox reporting is the least accurate of all cable news. Remember how many times they foung WMDs in Iraq?
This story pits the word of a convicted felon (like Oliver North) against that of the public official. Of course, they side with the criminal. Fair and balanced as always.
lgm, it is amusing how often you get your facts ‘misconstrued’. I was in Iraq. There were WMDs (mustard gas), and WMD material prepared for manufacture of WMDs within months. What is surprising is that the Bush/Rumsfeld administration did such an abysmal job telling folks about it. Of course, the MSM was prepared to not pay attention, but - it was there. We do not know what was convoyed to Syria - in the convoy a lawyer told us not to hit. We do know that everything was in place to produce WMD within months, and that there were artillery shells prepared for bi-chemicals found. IF you ignored all of the data not reported by MSM, I forgive you your ignorance. IF you discounted it due to your belief in MSM rather than ‘ground-truth’, I indict you as one of the masses who bought the “Bush Lied!” ignoramuses. Or, you could be a leftist-socialist, anti-American troll.
It used to be amusing, now it’s tired and old.
Now that’s jusr plain messed up.
LGM does get his facts misstrued. He always claimed that there were daily bombings of abortion clinics in the USA but I guess MSM (fair and Balance)scarscasm has failed to report these daily bombings. If he misses the point so bad on the abortion clinics how can you trust him on any other issue?
most don’t….
Paying off gang members or politicians? What’s the difference?
Can she really be that naive?Can anyone be that naive?LA needs a surge and build a HUGE city size prison.lgm can be on staff and teach math,I’m sure the bangers will pay attention in class.
Liberal philosophy: If we’re nice to them, they’ll be nice to us. How’s that working?
You do not negotiate with terrorists. No “honor” among thieves.
I read this story two months ago in the NRA Freedom Magazine.
Du klein garten schwerg, arschloch.
Ich hoffe das Bonnies Ranch findet dich, aber schnell.
breg man #16 has it exactly right - we used to call it Extortion.
Janice Hahn: Career moron who sits in an ivory tower and wouldn’t know the real world in it bit her in the a$$. Thugs must be a majority of her voting base. Michelle please follow this I’d really like to know how this weirdo’s scheme pans out. My bet: implosion. Thanks.
lgm: you’re a therapists dream; a cash cow dude. I would tell you to get a script for the mythical drug “Soma” from Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, but heh, the people of your ilk have already made it a real drug!
A taste of lgm’s world:
“
BenitoLgm was notoriously good-natured. People said of him that he could have got through life without ever touching soma. The malice and bad tempers from which other people had to take holidays never afflicted him. Reality forBenitolgm was always sunny.”“the warm, the richly coloured, the infinitely friendly world of soma-holiday. How kind, how good-looking, how delightfully amusing every one was! “
Anyone remember the Kipling poem about the Danegeld?
lgm is not confused- nothing as trivial as facts stand in the way of the people’s movement (which smells as bad as the intestinal variety).
The Councilman may just be bucking for a Nobel Prize. Hey, it worked for Dhimmi Carter.
Why the government doesn’t prosecute ALL gang members under the RICO statutes is beyond me. Making mere gang membership good for five years’ hard time, regardless of age, would go a long way towards making these idiots realize there IS law in this land. Or you could just pay the criminals to continue their criminality…
We used to have a guy at work who would say the most outrageous stuff just to see what would happen. Just little stupid things to get a rise out of the group and then just sit back and enjoy the uproar. He thought it was most amusing. lgm is eitther one of these schmucks or he/she is the most ignorant, stupid person I have ever come in contact with.
Either way, if you ignore them they go find others they can get to react. Trolls are sick people.
Michelle, you are wrong on this one. As a life-long DC resident who lives near the ghetto, the term “crew” is a long-standing term DC ghetto thugs use to refer to their gangs, such as the “U Street Crew.” No, this is not an act of political correctness.
Janice Hahn is my City Council “person.” Lucky me!
I have long been convinced that she’s as dumb as the proverbial box of rocks, and this simply confirms it. But the limousine liberals in the district simply loooove her.
In a city run by Antonio “we clean your toilets!” Villaraigosa, what do you expect?
This is the future, folks. Antonio and Janice are the inevitable result of giving illegals the vote.
Yo ahm with tha gomment’, ahm here to hep you. Now imme yo money cracka’!
Does that mean when this story is cross-verified by a liberal source (lol) that lgm will apologize for spewing more lies and libelous propaganda?
bradley. RICO sounds most appropriate, but liberals almost never use the proper tools to get the real criminals. They would rather beat up on young children and women.
#40, the article says “D.C. Officials” not what the brain donor gang members call themselves. geez, they probably can’t even spell “crew”
Know what I’m sayin
lol.
Oh, so I guess since there’s a gang in L.A. that is called the “18th Street Boys”, then we can just start calling all gangs in L.A. “boys”…
Nope, no pc there. Just a bunch of “boys” having fun… yup, yup, yup.
I’ll bet the muzak playing in lgm’s head is Leslie Gore’s ‘Sunshine Lolliepops and rainbows everyday, c’mon you know the words……..
Yeah, I do remember. Remember mainstream liberally leaning CBS making up documentation to try and directly affect a presidential election? Remember NBC faking exploding gas tanks on GM trucks?
From your perspective, obviously far left, Fox would appear to be “inaccurate,” but an objective reporter would see a news organization more centered than any of the others.
Oooo. Quite a fine line we are drawing here. North is convicted by a pack of liberals for effectively trying to spread democracy in Central America and stop Democrat supported communist regimes from spreading like a cancer in that region. Dems are applauded for weakening big, bad America at every possible opportunity.
I guess it comes down to: is the news report correct or not? Or are you just offgassing in the typical liberal “if it came from Fox, it must be wrong” mantra?
L.A. is lost and I don’t believe it can be won back. The mayor is more interested in serving Mexico than the United States, Hahn is funding terrorism, the police chief is more interested in prosecuting police officers than he is busting hoodlums, and the state assembly is out to destroy free enterprise.
I bet the ghost of Nikita Kruschev is saying right now, “I told you so”.
Don’t worry Dimsdale, little things like facts don’t resonate with people like lgm:
Oliver North wikipedia entry
But I guess having those 3 felony convictions “vacated” doesn’t count for lgm.
What I do find funny though was that the ACLU was the one who the one who came to his defense to have the convictions removed.
True or false: this whole story is Fox taking the word of a convicted felon over the word of the public servant?
If there were the slightest evidence of WMDs in Iraq, we would hear it every day from Bush.
Garyt (does the “t” stand for Alzheimer’s?): what I said was that there has been more violence against abortion clinics than against recruiting stations. Google “abortion clinic violence” and see for yourself.
alaskangrizzly (#50):
Oliver North was convicted of a felony. His conviction was overturned not because he was found innocent, but because the court held that he had in effect confessed to the crime in testimony he have under immunity.
In other words, he is a convicted felon whose conviction was overturned on a technicality, the kind of technicality people here rail about here. I’m not saying he should go to jail. But he should not be held up as an upstanding citizen.
Every time I quote wikipedia, somebody complains about its bias. It got the North story more or less right.
Stop all the stupid stuff and send in the Marines on an urban training mission..If they look like they are gang members get em …. Gang problem solved
Uh, excuse me. Wasn’t this article about GANG BANGERS?
I’ll take you up on that, first and top Google result:
Prochoice.org
2 attacks with no links to verified news sources to back up the claims for 2007. Both alleged arson attempts.
No attacks listed in 2006.
2 attacks with no links to verified news sources to back up the claims for 2005. Both alleged arson attempts.
2 attacks with no links to verified news sources to back up the claims for 2004. Both alleged arson attempts.
And the rest you can see for yourself. But in the last 4 years there have been 6 alleged attacks on abortion clinics. How many military recruitment centers have been attacked in the last 4 years? (psssst for the answer do a search on this blog where they have actual links and pictures of the attacks).
Once again, lgm is taking us on a field trip to outer space…….
Sorry spo-con, I got off topic.
Too bad the trip is worse than any lsd or acid I ever did in college this semester. /max sarc
GSP
Just a friendly piece of advice folks-don’t feed the trollette!
Your cool Griz. Just let him go on his Planet Caravan alone.
space troll
LA has a long history of paying off warlords…er, gang interventionists.
Hector Marroquin’s Revenge
No wonder Mayor Villar wants to take over the $19 million in gang funds. It’s a slush fund, not a program!
Since the gang wars have gotten worse, not better, I would surmise that the money paid out is for votes, not for peace.
This guy thinks we’re all school kids or something. The original mission was to find mobile biological weapons laboratories in Iraq. The information that Saddam was building these labs was given to the CIA from the German BND which turned out to be ‘the biggest intelligence fiasco of [a] lifetime.’ Foxnews reported on a sarin gas shell found in Iraq that was rigged as an IED. An Iraqi scientist said the original cache of nerve gas was probably sent to Syria.
So gets your facts straight lgm, we’re not stupid people here, we don’t take marching orders from Jane Fonda like you do.
lgm
How do you confuse a liberal?
Use facts and logic!
The child like naivete of the liberal mind is stunning. It reminds me of listening to a group of 12 year olds. If you just shut your eyes and wish hard enough, all the ‘icky’ stuff will just go away! And, every 25 to 40 years ya just change the name of the same old failed program and re-introduce it. And when it fails AGAIN, blame the conservatives! Simple. See, all better. Time for recess!
Why do I think that L.A. City Councilwoman Janice Hahn is the type of politician who would say, “but the US helped fund the Taliban in the 1980s and gave Saddam Hussein the WMDs that he used against his own people?”
It’s ironic how some liberals are fine with funding domestic criminals who kill law enforcement and innocent US citizens, but are opposed to funding the enemies of our enemies abroad.
Ask any true L.A. liberal what they’re more concerned with, City funding for Bloods and Crips, or Gitmo?
“..more or less right.” Well, that is good enough for me! /sarc I suppose we are to leave you as the arbiter of what is right and wrong, correct?
lgm, you crap on this site more than a goose on a diet of Fibersure and Ex-lax.
Try to 1)stay on topic, and 2) support your facts with sources better than the liberal sites you usually cite. Oh yeah, and the occasionally correct Wikipedia.
Methinks you are the one who is confused here Xler8bmw … liberals, useful idiots and other pawns have long since developed an immunity to facts and logic. Maybe I can get the government to give me a grant to study what has created that immune-disorder? Could this really be nothing more than an epidemic that can be cured? I highly doubt it but since the government is handing out our money anyhow … Well … just saying …
Ex KGB Agent Bezmenov on demoralization in America
You could lead them to the gulag and put them in it and still they would not understand.
Go easy on lgm. He still has deep- seeded problems with the Good Guys trying to free US hostages in Lebanon, while supporting those in Nicaragua who wanted a vote, wanted the Sandinistas to stop confiscating their homes and who also wanted the Soviet Union out of their domestic affairs.
When liberals repeatedly throw up roadblocks (Boland Amendment, Colombia Free Trade Agreement holdup, etc.) between America’s national interests and the freedoms of our allies abroad, conservatives are forced to construct bridges to get the job done.
Local station report, Fox News Channel has nothing to do with it. FAIL
Yet we can pretty much look up the city records to see the funding for this group. I’m guessing we could get records from this “outreach” program pretty easily. If you go back to Nigel’s post, he has more, this gangsta subsidy actually has been going on for a while. EPIC FAIL
“Hey, uh, nice city ya got here. Be a shame if somethin’ happened to it…”
Si, se puede!
Hey lgm the MSM quote Teddy Kennedy all the time. And he killed some one. Is that ok with you? Just wondering.
It’s a virtual confederacy of dunces!
and the idiocy continues….
Gang members are, indeed, domestic terrorists–they are not members of a social club.
In an “Absolut World”, they would be hunted down and exterminated–each and every one of them.
As for the parents who bred and trained them–I’m still thinkin’ that one through.
Heh heh, do you play WoW ajmontana?
I do believe in trolls. I do believe in trolls. I do, I do, I do believe in trolls!
I’m for letting the Marines take care of gang bangers. They are by definition terrorist and just need killin’. One or two Cobra helicopters over south central L.A. ought to do the trick.
No crime will ever stop unless the consequences make getting caught unacceptable to most criminals.
#74 - Buncha communissssss!!!
Some people might want to look up posse comitatus before crying out for the Marines to deal with it, as tempting as that plan looks.
#80
Alot of us on MM are vets and know about Possee Commitus and the folks that are posting for military action are:1) sick of the liberal mindset of surrender and 2) venting for a forceful solution rather than the Chamberlain one.
GSP
While the Marines may not be available to quell insurrection, the National Guard has long been used to settle civil dissent and keep the peace on American soil.
The regular Armed Forces Personnel with them would just be there in an advisory capacity
she’s obviously another nutless politician in more ways than one. no wonder the white population is on the decline in America, they’ve had enough.
We really do elect stupid people, and get what we deserve in return.
Don’t rule out option 3) All of the above.
And remember: Gang bangers are domestic terrorists. A lot of them are here illegally and should be caught and sent back to their country of origen. An airplane trip perhaps, with a parachute landing. Either that or an all expense paid trip to Club Gitmo.
True of false: there’s nothing to this story beyond the he said/she said between the criminal and the public servant.
Did you even watch the video lgm? Or did you conveniently skip over the part where Hahn admits to hiring gang members as gang intervention workers (but denies paying them for it)? Did you then miss the part where police officers Chuck Garcia and Ryan Moreno who worked as gang officers for 10 years claim that gang intervention workers were getting paid to help stop gang violence but were part of the problem and not really stopping anything?
Oh I forgot, facts and testimony from police officers don’t matter to
liberalstrolls sticking up for their own. So much for the criminals vs public servant argument. But don’t worry, I clearly expect from you the retort of “well these two officers have it our for Hahn since they lost their jobs as gang officers for actually doing their job and putting away violent thugs in prison and are now suing the city”. It would be funny if it were not so predictable.PR #85-I like all of the above
lgm-trollete
Its very obvious that by your posts you a: Aren’t paying attention
b: Doing the seagull attack
c: Didn’t watch the video
or d: All of the Above
lgm is a trollette???? Who’d a thunk?
Being in a gang is not a crime. We have a Bill of Rights to protect that. It is the crimes that need to be addressed. Better people who understand the problem as it exists to help solve the problem then when Laura Bush was set up to head anti-gang efforts.
Anecdotally, it sounds believeable to me that Janice Hahn would engage such dumb behavior. She wins the prize for being the dumbest member of the City Council on a consistent basis - which is saying something since there are some olympic quality idiots on the Council.