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		<title>By: Webelf Report Blogroll &#171; The WebElf Report</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/navy-commissions-imperial-star-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-326515</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TOTAL COOLNESS! Navy launches Imperial Star Destroyer. Canada was way ahead&#8211; we had a mini-version of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jtex</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/navy-commissions-imperial-star-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-311306</link>
		<dc:creator>jtex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder how long it&#039;s gonna take the New York Times to publish all the top secret technology that&#039;s on the ship?  

And how long before the plans are for sell on e-bay?

I&#039;ll bet the Chinese had a copy of the plans before the Navy got them.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder how long it&#8217;s gonna take the New York Times to publish all the top secret technology that&#8217;s on the ship?  </p>
<p>And how long before the plans are for sell on e-bay?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet the Chinese had a copy of the plans before the Navy got them.</p>
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		<title>By: Regulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junk.  Over-priced, over-hyped junk.  You can learn a lot more about these white elephants over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strategypage.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Strategy  Page.&lt;/a&gt;  

The Navy wanted four LCS craft initially, two classes of two ships each, but the builders went so wildly over budget that the second pair have already been canceled.  I&#039;d be amazed if any more will even be laid down, not to mention completed.

Pee-wee league speedboats have never been the Navy&#039;s strength.  The PT boats had an uninspiring record in WWII; the most famous example of a PT in action was John F. Kennedy getting his PT-109 sliced in two right out from underneath him by a Japanese destroyer.  The common joke by PT skippers was this apocryphal after-action discussion:

PT skipper #1: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Did you fire any torpedoes?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

PT skipper #2: &lt;em&gt;&quot;No, I was too busy dodging yours.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The &lt;em&gt;Pegasus&lt;/em&gt;-class PHMs of the 1980s were another ill-fated stab at flea-bite boats designed for littoral operations.  Four were built, but that was it; they never lived up to expectations and they were quickly and quietly decommissioned.

The Navy is having serious problems with its shipbuilding program these days.  The builders are turning out ships with serious quality control problems; the Navy contributes to massive cost overruns by literally redesigning ships while they&#039;re still being built.

The LCS idea isn&#039;t going anywhere.  If we really want a &quot;brown water Navy,&quot; We&#039;d have been better off to just dust off the plans for the old WWII PT boats.  Not that they&#039;d be any more effective, but at least we could afford to build more than two of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junk.  Over-priced, over-hyped junk.  You can learn a lot more about these white elephants over at <a href="http://www.strategypage.com" rel="nofollow">Strategy  Page.</a>  </p>
<p>The Navy wanted four LCS craft initially, two classes of two ships each, but the builders went so wildly over budget that the second pair have already been canceled.  I&#8217;d be amazed if any more will even be laid down, not to mention completed.</p>
<p>Pee-wee league speedboats have never been the Navy&#8217;s strength.  The PT boats had an uninspiring record in WWII; the most famous example of a PT in action was John F. Kennedy getting his PT-109 sliced in two right out from underneath him by a Japanese destroyer.  The common joke by PT skippers was this apocryphal after-action discussion:</p>
<p>PT skipper #1: <em>&#8220;Did you fire any torpedoes?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>PT skipper #2: <em>&#8220;No, I was too busy dodging yours.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>The <em>Pegasus</em>-class PHMs of the 1980s were another ill-fated stab at flea-bite boats designed for littoral operations.  Four were built, but that was it; they never lived up to expectations and they were quickly and quietly decommissioned.</p>
<p>The Navy is having serious problems with its shipbuilding program these days.  The builders are turning out ships with serious quality control problems; the Navy contributes to massive cost overruns by literally redesigning ships while they&#8217;re still being built.</p>
<p>The LCS idea isn&#8217;t going anywhere.  If we really want a &#8220;brown water Navy,&#8221; We&#8217;d have been better off to just dust off the plans for the old WWII PT boats.  Not that they&#8217;d be any more effective, but at least we could afford to build more than two of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Alphonse</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/navy-commissions-imperial-star-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-310964</link>
		<dc:creator>Alphonse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the USS Merrimack.</description>
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		<title>By: Mojave Mark</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/navy-commissions-imperial-star-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-310828</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojave Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On May 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, e8n2 said:Twin 5″ turrets fore and aft ought to be de riguer for any combat ship that isn’t a carrier. Otherwise it will fare worse than Taffy 3 did in the Battle of the Philippine Seas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That one 5&quot; gun can pump out lots of rounds REALLY fast. It&#039;s missiles can ruin an enemy ship&#039;s day in no time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On May 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, e8n2 said:Twin 5″ turrets fore and aft ought to be de riguer for any combat ship that isn’t a carrier. Otherwise it will fare worse than Taffy 3 did in the Battle of the Philippine Seas.</p></blockquote>
<p>That one 5&#8243; gun can pump out lots of rounds REALLY fast. It&#8217;s missiles can ruin an enemy ship&#8217;s day in no time.</p>
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		<title>By: serfer62</title>
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		<dc:creator>serfer62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This design is a product of &quot;Skink Works&quot; bac in the mid 80s where it dissappeared from sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This design is a product of &#8220;Skink Works&#8221; bac in the mid 80s where it dissappeared from sight.</p>
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		<title>By: e8n2</title>
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		<dc:creator>e8n2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just hope this thing doesn&#039;t come up against anything it&#039;s own size, because that pop gun on the bow ain&#039;t gonna do much against a real ship.  Twin 5&quot; turrets fore and aft ought to be de riguer for any combat ship that isn&#039;t a carrier.  Otherwise it will fare worse than Taffy 3 did in the Battle of the Philippine Seas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just hope this thing doesn&#8217;t come up against anything it&#8217;s own size, because that pop gun on the bow ain&#8217;t gonna do much against a real ship.  Twin 5&#8243; turrets fore and aft ought to be de riguer for any combat ship that isn&#8217;t a carrier.  Otherwise it will fare worse than Taffy 3 did in the Battle of the Philippine Seas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucius Vorenus</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/03/navy-commissions-imperial-star-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-310724</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucius Vorenus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are the idiots in the DOD who allowed &lt;a href=&quot;http://instapinch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/in-dock-prior-to-launch.JPG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this picture of the hull&lt;/a&gt; to be made public?

After Alan Bond won &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_America%27s_Cup&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the 1983 America&#039;s Cup&lt;/a&gt;, he hoisted the boat up and allowed people to take pictures of the winged keel.

Dennis Conner said afterwards that Bond&#039;s hubris allowed &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_%26_Stripes_%28yacht%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Team Dennis Conner&lt;/a&gt; to save literally decades&#039; worth of R&amp;D that would have been spent trying to figure out how to replicate the keel.

Anyway, the pictures posted here are basically a blueprint showing the Chicoms how to duplicate the Littoral design.

Expect miniature copies in your local Walmart in time for the all-important Christmas shopping season; real-life copies should be seen off the coasts of Taiwan &amp; the Philippines circa Q2 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are the idiots in the DOD who allowed <a href="http://instapinch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/in-dock-prior-to-launch.JPG" rel="nofollow">this picture of the hull</a> to be made public?</p>
<p>After Alan Bond won <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_America%27s_Cup" rel="nofollow">the 1983 America&#8217;s Cup</a>, he hoisted the boat up and allowed people to take pictures of the winged keel.</p>
<p>Dennis Conner said afterwards that Bond&#8217;s hubris allowed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_%26_Stripes_%28yacht%29" rel="nofollow">Team Dennis Conner</a> to save literally decades&#8217; worth of R&amp;D that would have been spent trying to figure out how to replicate the keel.</p>
<p>Anyway, the pictures posted here are basically a blueprint showing the Chicoms how to duplicate the Littoral design.</p>
<p>Expect miniature copies in your local Walmart in time for the all-important Christmas shopping season; real-life copies should be seen off the coasts of Taiwan &amp; the Philippines circa Q2 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Kearny432</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kearny432</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the obvious role in the Persian gulf, this baby would make a timely addition to the newly re-activated 4th Fleet (Caribbean, Latin America).  Drug interdiction (sink on sight), protection of off-shore oil rigs, and something else for that Castro wannabe, Hugo C. to think about.  

Winemkr- Very disturbing article, and resembles the same kind of bureaucratic, meddling crap that went on with the MRAPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the obvious role in the Persian gulf, this baby would make a timely addition to the newly re-activated 4th Fleet (Caribbean, Latin America).  Drug interdiction (sink on sight), protection of off-shore oil rigs, and something else for that Castro wannabe, Hugo C. to think about.  </p>
<p>Winemkr- Very disturbing article, and resembles the same kind of bureaucratic, meddling crap that went on with the MRAPs.</p>
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		<title>By: instapinch.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future &#8220;USS Independence&#8221;, LCS 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>instapinch.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Future &#8220;USS Independence&#8221;, LCS 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all from Michelle Malkin, Blackfive, OP-FOR , and the other linkers! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cicerokid</title>
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		<dc:creator>cicerokid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 13:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there enough water in the Rio Grande to float them puppies?</description>
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		<title>By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Global Warming Rules!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove&#160;&#8212;&#160;Global Warming Rules!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last, but certainly not least, the Navy launches an Imperial Star Destroyer. Michelle M has the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fanningp</title>
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		<dc:creator>fanningp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting that winemkr....and now you all know some of what has been dogging the LCS program for some time....LCS-1 &quot;Freedom&quot; has had delays, most notably a fire back in 2007.  LCS-1 was launched in Sep. 2006.  2006!!!!  If &quot;Independence&quot; was just launched this past week....how long will it take GD to get to commissioning?  Last I checked the Navy does not expect to take delivery of &quot;Freedom&quot; until the spring of 2009....

Heck, the ship I was attached to, a CARRIER, was launched 27 October 1984 and was put in commission on 25 October 1986...just under two years.....we&#039;re talking about a CARRIER as opposed to a MUCH smaller LCS....and it CERTAINLY takes alot longer to outfit a carrier than it does an LCS...especially a nuclear carrier....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting that winemkr&#8230;.and now you all know some of what has been dogging the LCS program for some time&#8230;.LCS-1 &#8220;Freedom&#8221; has had delays, most notably a fire back in 2007.  LCS-1 was launched in Sep. 2006.  2006!!!!  If &#8220;Independence&#8221; was just launched this past week&#8230;.how long will it take GD to get to commissioning?  Last I checked the Navy does not expect to take delivery of &#8220;Freedom&#8221; until the spring of 2009&#8230;.</p>
<p>Heck, the ship I was attached to, a CARRIER, was launched 27 October 1984 and was put in commission on 25 October 1986&#8230;just under two years&#8230;..we&#8217;re talking about a CARRIER as opposed to a MUCH smaller LCS&#8230;.and it CERTAINLY takes alot longer to outfit a carrier than it does an LCS&#8230;especially a nuclear carrier&#8230;.</p>
<p>What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: Perk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Coast Guard needs to get these ships.  Most of their boats are 40-50 years old.  They need the speed and flexibility these ships offer for counterdrug and counterterrorism.  Littoral combat is important for the Navy, and is the mission for the US Coast Guard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Coast Guard needs to get these ships.  Most of their boats are 40-50 years old.  They need the speed and flexibility these ships offer for counterdrug and counterterrorism.  Littoral combat is important for the Navy, and is the mission for the US Coast Guard.</p>
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		<title>By: old trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>old trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are at War. Build more!</description>
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