Get yourself ready for…the vegetable rights movement!

By see-dubya  •  May 4, 2008 01:56 AM

Sweet Mother of Gaia on an organic soy cracker:

At the request of the Swiss government, an ethics panel has weighed in on the “dignity” of plants and opined that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The concept of what could be called “plant rights” is being seriously debated.

A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a provision requiring “account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms.” No one knew exactly what it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, “The Dignity of Living Beings with Regard to Plants,” is enough to short circuit the brain.

Sure, you vegans thought yourselves so morally pure. But according to the Swiss government, your hands are stained with the chlorophyll of innocent beings.

Go ahead and read the whole stupid thing now, because it’s going to be all over Fox News and every local-market talk show and right-leaning blog this week.

While you’re there, take a nice heady sniff of European morality, and with that fragrance still stinging your nostrils, go read Patterico’s expert takedown of the New York Times’ new Supreme Court reporter, Adam Liptak, who graces the pages of that august publication with a tiresome muddle of predictable criticism of American prison policy.

What does prison policy have to do with the Free Swiss Chard! movement? Well, you experienced VRWC operatives might see this one coming…among his many misstatements and misreadings of the data, Liptak inevitably reaches for that good ol’ reliable cudgel liberals use to attack American policy: European moralists who are shocked and disgusted at our cowboy-mentality barbarism.

Patterico:

Liptak continues:

“Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.”

Guess what, Adam Liptak? I’m “mystified and appalled” by the number and length of European prison sentences — specifically, the mystifying and appallingly short sentences that too often result in cases of clear, premeditated murder.

For example, in Germany, activists bombed an American military base and killed a U.S. soldier, and received a “life” sentence. By August of last year, two had been paroled after serving only 21 years. In the Netherlands, Volkert Van der Graaf confessed to assassinating politician Pim Fortuyn and was sentenced to all of 18 years.

And I could go on.

I believe many Americans are also “mystified and appalled” by the leniency of these European sentences for premeditated murder. But somehow, Adam Liptak gives no prominence to their views.

Not to mention the fact that dude, they think plants have dignity and rights. But I guess it’s a wash: if you do murder a hydrangea with malice aforethought, they won’t imprison you for very long.

It’s going to be hard to take anything a European not named Thatcher says seriously ever again. They’re not particularly interested in stopping Islamic honor killings, but zut! that American prison system is too harsh.

And oh yeah, plants have rights.

God help us.

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  1. #310454
    On May 4th, 2008 at 2:26 am, islandman78 said:

    You reap what you sow. If they put this into action, then we definitely have become nothing but vegetables to the harvester that is no longer Big Brother but Big Farmer.

  2. #310456
    On May 4th, 2008 at 2:32 am, WarTip said:

    There is a very simple answer in the Bible. All life is precious and we should give thanks to God for ALL things. While some aficionados may suppose that meat is forbidden in the Bible, it was actually only prohibited until the time of the flood. After that, both animal and vegetable became fair game (no pun intended) for the table.

    However, in the beginning, there was every manner of tree bearing every manner of fruit … kinda says to me … it’s maybe not so bad to kill a pineapple or a coconut every now and then … if you feel guilty, just replant the seeds. Then again, trying to be logical with someone who has no logic will always remain an exercise in futility. (Would this be an exercise in fruitility perhaps?)

    As for accepting International law to protect American interests? Just another stepping stone down the present path of destruction American politicians on both sides of the aisle seem to be intent on leading us down. Nothing to see here folks! Move along!

    As for the RoP … well, we will all answer one day and be held accountable.

  3. #310458
    On May 4th, 2008 at 2:38 am, Buckaroo said:

    “But I guess it’s a wash: if you do murder a hydrangea with malice aforethought, they won’t imprison you for very long”

    [rimshot]

  4. #310459
    On May 4th, 2008 at 2:39 am, Buckaroo said:

    and just in case no one else realized it, this is merely the latest sign that the 21st century will NOT belong to europe in any way shape matter or form …

  5. #310466
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:03 am, Hercules said:

    Well, no meat, no veggies. Hm.

    I want to see these people PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH FIRST!

    They tried mud cookeies in Haiti and it didn’t work out very well…………..

  6. #310467
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:04 am, Arbalest said:

    After re-reading the article a few times (yes, it hurts, and I still have suspicions), it seems that the Swiss have now made smoking weed a form of arson.

    Rather than ask what, exactly, were the writers of this law and the ethics panel smoking, which will cause them to feel stupider: 1) realizing that they have just outlawed their favorite past-time, or 2) doing 5-to-15 for 3rd degree serial toking?

    I’ll bet the maker of Zig-Zag paper is furious.

  7. #310469
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:21 am, LC said:

    Nevermind the imaginary malady the adoption of plant rights will have on the free market, I want to know what the actual affect on the world will be! Oh, these are exciting times we live in.

  8. #310472
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:44 am, graysonret said:

    Dear me, I didn’t realize that companies like Proflowers and FlowersDirect were “murderers”. Gee, just having the flowers on the dining table here, makes me an “accessory”. With Mothers’ Day coming up, there will be mass murder and massacre. Now there is a good debate question, Hillary/Obama.

  9. #310473
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:48 am, rondogg said:

    Sure, you vegans thought yourselves so morally pure. But according to the Swiss government, your hands are stained with the chlorophyll of innocent beings.

    Pure comedic gold. The Lib material just continues to write itself…

    If that isn’t the quote of the year I don’t know what is. You really have to find humor in this stuff or else you’ll go stark raving mad while realizing what this world is coming to.

    See-Dub, you just gave me the best laugh I’ve had all week. You, sir, are a genius.

  10. #310480
    On May 4th, 2008 at 4:15 am, feebiebabe said:

    A “clear majority” of the panel adopted what it called a “biocentric” moral view, meaning that “living organisms should be considered morally for their own sake because they are alive.”

    I feel like I am reading this after eating bad pizza.

    (image: feebz bites into a Carrot) Whatsssup Doc!!??

    They are not Alive you moron…they are living just like 99.9% of the matter on this planet. If it was up to these bozos we’d be sustaining ourselves on pebbles and water.

    God gave us plants and animals for food.

    Where is AJ??!!!

    “Ya gotta be s____g me?!!!!

  11. #310483
    On May 4th, 2008 at 4:23 am, WarTip said:

    Actually, I believe water contains living organisms as well. Maybe we will have to switch to beer instead? Or would the yeast and bacteria be protected species as well? Wait though, if that is true though and some 70% of the human body is water …

    awww never mind.

  12. #310491
    On May 4th, 2008 at 5:58 am, regularguy said:

    Yup, I’ve been waiting for this brand of nutjob to come out of the woodwork. I suppose the world has tolerated ignoramuses throughout history, but I have to believe we must be suffering an epidemic of abject lunatics who have far too many platforms from which they can spew their nonsense.

  13. #310493
    On May 4th, 2008 at 6:36 am, cf said:

    I have mixed feelings about this post. Of course these people are idiotic, but it is wrong to suggest that all vegans (or by extension vegetarians & those following a plant-based) diet with these lunatics. Many people following these diets do so because of the health benefits, which are clear and not open to serious challenge. It is possible to follow a plant-based diet without going along in the slightest with the nuts (no pun intended) discussed in this post.

  14. #310496
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:23 am, behiker said:

    That explains all the screaming I hear when I cut the grass.

  15. #310498
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:32 am, TMoney said:

    Looks like Ted Turner may be right after all. If we can only eat things that have no rights, then we white, male, chauvinists better watch the heck out!

  16. #310499
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:41 am, eforhan said:

    Did kids really need another excuse to not eat spinach?

  17. #310501
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:51 am, Tennessee Dave said:

    Would this make all supermarkets and stores a kind of morgue? A vast holding area for all the mass murdered plants on which we are performing genocide.

  18. #310502
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:57 am, englishqueen01 said:

    So, let’s recap:

    Plants have “dignity” and can be “murdered”…but Switzerland still allows abortion.

    My tomato plants = worthy of protection.

    My unborn child = an inhuman blob of cells that can be destroyed at any time.

    “We reap what we sow”…that’s an understatement. There are some sins that cry out to Heaven for vengeance.

  19. #310503
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:58 am, franksalterego said:

    “…the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong.”

    “Honey?…Will you please turn off that football game, and get off your dead ass, and mow the lawn?”

    “Sweetheart?…Have you submitted the proper paperwork, and paid the lawn-mowing fee?”

    “No.”

    “Well then…There’s your answer.”

    See?…There IS an upside.

  20. #310508
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:14 am, MikeOK said:

    No meat, no vegetables … what’s left, Soylent Green? Europe does encourage euthanasia after all.

    To Patterico’s discourse on light European prison sentences we could also add the shameful Josef Fritzl, the Austrian “father” who locked his daughter in a basement for 25 years, repeatedly raping her and impregnating her at least seven times. For this unimaginable horror Fritzl will probably be sentenced to only 15 years in prison.

  21. #310519
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:40 am, jongeephotography said:

    behiker said:

    That explains all the screaming I hear when I cut the grass.

    Wait till the plaintiff’s bar goes after “Big Landscape”. “Undocumented” unemployement will skyrocket!

  22. #310521
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:41 am, ex-expat said:

    Soooo, if floral are out, what’s left for nourishment, human beings?

    We are still paying and paying for the Sixties.

  23. #310522
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:42 am, mojoe said:

    Wait a minute! Beer is made of yeast, barley and hops. Wine of living grapes!

    NNNOOOOOOooooooo!

  24. #310527
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:52 am, Storm Chaser said:

    What is next? Bacteria or virus rights? Is it wrong for our bodies to fight off diseases which attack us?

  25. #310528
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:55 am, cicerokid said:

    Poor Obama can’t catch a break…now he’s an arugala murderer.

  26. #310532
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:04 am, expat said:

    It should be obvious, man is bad and the rest of the animals and plants which coincide peacefully and lovingly in nature are good! SARC OFF

  27. #310538
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:14 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Plants are living things. We all should at least honor them before we eat them. The filthy vegans are often to sanctimonious to even acknowledge this fact.

  28. #310541
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:21 am, jroberts said:

    There are a lot more vegetarians in the U.S. than in Europe, and it is a lot easier to be a vegetarian or a vegan even in a place as conservative as South Carolina than in a place as liberal as Germany. I was in Europe for study-abroad for 6 months and could barely skip meat on Fridays without resorting to a diet of potato soup (which still used chicken stock) and pretzels for a day. It’s hard to imagine for than a handful of Europeans taking this seriously, since it’s hard to imagine more than a handful of Europeans taking “meat is murder” seriously. It’s nonsense to generalize this to Europeans as a whole.

    On the other hand, we don’t know what they mean by dignity. I mean, if they’re saying “Plants have dignity, so we shouldn’t eat them,” there’s no way anyone would take them seriously. If they’re saying “Plants, like all created, living, nutritive things, have the dignity incumbent on it by being created, living, and nutritive, which is not the same as the dignity of a created, living, nutritive, animal, rational thing (i.e., a human),” then they’re just making a pretty obvious point that no one would’ve thought of disagreeing with even 300 years ago.

  29. #310546
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:36 am, DagneyT said:

    “account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms.”

    This surprised me! Most European churches have been closed for lack of interest. I thought it was all done through “evolution”?

  30. #310548
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:41 am, WarTip said:

    I just had to throw this one in for TGUSA

    Vegetable Vengeance

    Your daily dose of double V

    Wow … I could have had a V-8

  31. #310549
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:41 am, Boomer said:

    The Euro-trash liberals almost make our liberals sound sane. Almost! I wonder what these self righteous fools gather their nourishment from they have just placed the building blocks of life off limits to keep their own bodies going. That’s right being liberal’s they are hypocrites. Do as I say not as I do. Thanks for the snort worth news see-dubya.

  32. #310551
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:55 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    So the Swiss are becoming radical Hindu’s? No offense intended to real Hindu’s.

  33. #310554
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:03 am, DogBreath said:

    That’s why I only eat the meat from plant murderers. (Beef, pork, chicken, venison, etc…) I’m saving lives.

    *No vegetables were harmed during the typing of this comment.*

  34. #310555
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:12 am, ajmontana said:

    Too bad Moonbats, Dems, Libs and nimrod dingbats don’t taste yummy, we could just eat them…..

  35. #310558
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:18 am, madchef said:

    Somebody please remind the Swiss that Chocolate comes from plants, that will make them change their tune.

  36. #310560
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:21 am, DogBreath said:

    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:12 am, ajmontana said:

    Too bad Moonbats…

    They have an arugula aftertaste.

  37. #310569
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:32 am, spo-con said:

    Well, does this mean that the weed huggers in America are now going after ‘Big Arugula’? The MSM can do some whiny special on farming being akin to Auchwitz! Its coming to a screen near you……..

  38. #310570
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:33 am, nyc123me said:

    Easily solved – say that murdering plants is part of your religion, along with killing your daughters for having facebook pages. Insinuate you’re islamic, and there will be no problems at all.

  39. #310573
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am, nyc123me said:

    meat is murder. so is salad.

  40. #310586
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:46 am, spo-con said:

    These folks are alot like PETA. They all need full time EMPLOYMENT! This is the kind of s*#! that happens when ya have WAY too much freetime.

  41. #310599
    On May 4th, 2008 at 11:08 am, 2cents said:

    A rather obvious observation: if we can’t eat meat, and we can’t eat plants…what are we supposed to eat?

    I’m sure liberals really hate it when that rude entity called reality intrudes on their fantasy world…

  42. #310605
    On May 4th, 2008 at 11:17 am, JimC214 said:

    Well now I have an excuse not to mow the lawn.

  43. #310610
    On May 4th, 2008 at 11:22 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    So does this mean the “ILLEGAL MIGRANT FARM WORKER” is a murderer ? HMmmmm The left has said they would send the ones back who committ crimes…. I love it whan a plan come together

  44. #310634
    On May 4th, 2008 at 11:55 am, zeestephen said:

    I’m suspicious.

    Sounds like right wing legal camouflage to keep Mexican farm labor out of America.

    I was going to call this a “legal straw man,” but that would mock the centuries of genocide endured by wheat and barley crops.

  45. #310638
    On May 4th, 2008 at 11:57 am, Werekoala said:

    Wait, wait, wait – what is THIS?!

    “account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms.”

    What agenda are those religious freaks trying to push now? Does Richard Dawkins know about this?

  46. #310644
    On May 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, digits said:

    Two things: 1) Doesn’t this make ethanol immoral? and B) Shouldn’t humans be considered the same as other animals? i.e. shouldn’t we be able to kill for our food exactly as other animals kill for theirs?

  47. #310655
    On May 4th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, jt3151 said:

    “account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms.”

    I though that all life came about purely by chance.

  48. #310661
    On May 4th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, ScottG said:

    Just goes to show, when you don’t stand for real morality, you fall for foolish morality.

  49. #310665
    On May 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    When my oldest son was in 6th grade, one of his friends climbed up in a tree on school grounds. A teacher reprimanded him by saying, “Get out of that tree! You’re going to hurt it’s feelings.”

    I’m not joking! I spoke to his friend and he corroborated my son’s account.

    This is how the socialists get their political point across to the mush-brained young; they disguise it as “environmental repsonsibility.”

    My youngest has to write a paper on global warming. He told his teacher he didn’t believe humans were causing global warming. My wife received an email from the teacher saying my son was going to have to prove his statement with scientific fact and not beliefs. He also told me that the teacher showed AGore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” to the students. So his teacher is a hypocrite, too. No faith or beliefs allowed in schools but they’ll show An Inconvenint Truth, which is based in faith and belief.

  50. #310672
    On May 4th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, deedledee said:

    Forgive me, Father, I have sinned. Today I pulled a weed from my garden without realizing it was just trying to find shelter from the harsh world. Forgive me, I knew not what I did.

  51. #310691
    On May 4th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, JoAnn in VA said:

    From the Arrogant Worms-
    Listen up brothers and sisters,
    come hear my desperate tale.
    I speak of our friends of nature,
    trapped in the dirt like a jail.

    Vegetables live in oppression,
    served on our tables each night.
    This killing of veggies is madness,
    I say we take up the fight.

    Salads are only for murderers,
    coleslaw’s a fascist regime.
    Don’t think that they don’t have feelings,
    just cause a radish can’t scream.

    Chorus:
    I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables (scream, scream, scream)
    Watching their skins being peeled (having their insides revealed)
    Grated and steamed with no mercy (burning off calories)
    How do you think that feels (bet it hurts really bad)
    Carrot juice constitutes murder (and that’s a real crime)
    Greenhouses prisons for slaves (let my vegetables go)
    It’s time to stop all this gardening (it’s dirty as hell)
    Let’s call a spade a spade (is a spade is a spade is a spade)

  52. #310706
    On May 4th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, Kearny432 said:

    The Swiss should immediately declare war with the Netherlands, a country that has waged floracide against the tulip for centuries.

    Sounds like the Swiss are prepping their citizens for a new green tax. For the sin of exhaling Co2, and a bane on mother earth, we in addition to punitive damages already levied, will now include “pain and suffering”. ManBearPig and Silky Pony (Gore/Edwards) should should be all over this…opportunity knocks fellas.

  53. #310709
    On May 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, beenthere said:

    Still trying to wrap my mind around this; it appears the next step is rock rights, but that is all one can say with certainty. Here’s my question:

    If argula = murder, does compost = rape?

  54. #310744
    On May 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Here’s my question:

    If argula = murder, does compost = rape?

    Pruning=amputation? Not watering = Reckless Abandonment?

    These peeps need to by a clue.

  55. #310757
    On May 4th, 2008 at 4:12 pm, ArmywifeArmymom said:

    I have heard a tomato scream before. Believe me, you don’t want to witness that.

    I am now contemplating becoming a Vegetable Therapy Consultant.

  56. #310854
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:29 pm, deepdriller said:

    I say, by all means, feel free to give up the vegetables as well as the meat, at least your moonbattery will be short-lived.

    #1 was the pun intentional???

    You reap what you sow.

  57. #310869
    On May 4th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, cicerokid said:

    There’s a deer in my yard eating grass! Kill it!

  58. #310878
    On May 4th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, angryoldfatman said:

    The moonbats won’t be happy until human beings truly are treated as bacteria and slaughtered by the billions.

    In their future religion (which is actually a rehash of several very old religions including a fruit-diet-only cult), mankind is a virus which infects Mother Earth.

  59. #310899
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, Patchthebun said:

    This reminds me of that scene in Notting Hill, where Hugh Grant is dating the women who is a Fruitarian, and she only eats foods that naturally fell off the vine/tree.

  60. #310903
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, mojoe said:

    I won’t eat anything that casts a shadow.

  61. #310911
    On May 4th, 2008 at 9:57 pm, AlabamaMama said:

    Oh, good grief… so what are they gonna eat now, dirt??
    …It’s a wonder Europe ever made it out of the dark ages… they sure are doing their best to get themselves back into one!

  62. #310915
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:10 pm, undrseige247 said:

    I think schrooms should get rights before plants have rights. They talk to me man…

  63. #310924
    On May 4th, 2008 at 10:36 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Why can’t leftist groups like PETA help out more with endangered species, instead of worrying to death about dogs and cats all the time?

  64. #311138
    On May 5th, 2008 at 10:17 am, LarryD said:

    Jumped. The. Shark.

    We can now mock the European “Moral Superiority” into irrelevance.

  65. #311639
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:56 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Oddly enough, I have always thought that vegans didn’t understand that plants are also alive…

    Please, no talk of eating dirt! Do you know how many microorganisms are in a spoonful! They have rights too. You walk on and crush millions of them a day.

  66. #311677
    On May 5th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Chuck said:

    LarryD said:
    Jumped. The. Shark.

    We can now mock the European “Moral Superiority” into irrelevance.

    Just a minor quibble LarryD, I think that Europe has been irrelevant in it’s entirety since WW II.

  67. #311825
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, Desdenova said:

    Now I understand John Barleycorn’s plight!

  68. #312291
    On May 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, GaMidnightRider said:

    So does singing the song” Jimmy cracked corn and i don’t care ” make me a racist or a race baiter ?

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