GSP

What is with you guys? Not willing to take me up on the challenge?

Is it because you know that conservatives are right when it comes to the misapprobiation of hate crimes laws that they target our free speech and not yours?

Offer is on the table…..

GSP

If they’ve died to preserve a piece of cloth, it’s a horrible waste.

It’s not a piece of ‘cloth’–it’s a symbol. You know, those thingies that the liberal fascists love to throw up for our adulation? Quilts? Candles lit outside death row? Body bags on the parking lot of big Tobacco? Chaining oneself to a tree? The liberals scream & spray spittle when someone tries to come between them & their precious symbols. God forbid we should hold something, that is enduring & represents so much, so dearly.

There are already limits (not outlined in the Constitution) on free speech and expression. Yelling fire in a movie theatre, yelling bomb on an airplane, running naked through the streets… will all get you arrested in most places. And for centuries the flag was in the same boat, a protected item that was a slight impingement on free speech that millions of Americans had no problem with for over 200 years.

Then the Supreme Court decides it belongs under freedom of expression to burn the flag. So now, because of that, if we make an Amendment to restore the dignity the flag once held for 200 years under flag codes we take away a section of freedom of speech given after the fact. You argue that would set a dangerous example of future abuses, and I would have to agree sadly that it probably would open the door to what is currently being pushed as hate crimes when it is really free speech. Europe is paying the heavy toll right now for allowing the PC mentality to run amok and hate crimes bills to be passed. Which is why that famous lady in France is facing charges for calling Islam a religion of death or something like that. Here in the US that is still protected free speech, in France and much of Europe not so much anymore. And that will be Europe’s downfall, their own laws used against them.

So I see your point, and in these deranged times when liberals run amok I could see the lesser of the two evils being allowed to happen to preserve free speech in the future. But the Supreme Court saying so doesn’t make it right, just like Roe vs Wade didn’t make abortion right it just made it legal.

I’m an equal opportunity opponent against ‘hate crime’ legislation whether its the rainbow flag or Old Glory; so you won’t find any traction against me there.

Like I tried to say, our country is not a flag, it is not coastlines, mountains, plains and rivers, it is PEOPLE with a precious Constitution written to guarantee rights. And our flag is not only the symbol of the Constitution – it is the symbol of the PEOPLE living that document. Almost every single one of those people respect our flag from their heart like I do and I am proud of that fact! You are not proud of that fact?

Burning a symbol does nothing to burn what the symbol symbolizes. You’ll find no scars on me from seeing some idiot burn our flag and doubt that you could find any on yourself. But if you pass a law against flag burning, the FEW idiots that ever desecrated our flag will be laughing and dancing in the streets victorious. Those few will relish being able to claim that they forced an entire country to place a limit on our First Amendment just because of them. Then THEY will be proud – and the first time they were ever correct.

And unlike you, I will not stand idly by while morons like lgm and company pass legislation making it illegal to burn a rainbow flag, while burning an American flag is in fashion. Typical Liberal Hypocrisy. I will fight that hypocrisy, because some things are worth fighting for. And to me, the flag I served under and still live under means more to me than some commies right to spit on my service or my fellow vets service. Yes, they are trying to provoke anger. And yes, we know they are trying to provoke anger. But you’re suggesting that we shouldn’t drop to their demands and just ignore it. That may work well and fine with some things, but if we will not stand up and fight for freedom then you will quickly find yourself lacking those freedoms.