Officer down: Philly policeman executed by bank robbers in Muslim garb

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 5, 2008 09:49 AM

Awful news from my birthplace: Philadelphia Police Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, married father of three who would have turned 40 this weekend, was gunned down by bank robbers armed with assault weapons and dressed head-to-toe in Muslim women’s clothing this weekend.

Cop-hating Bill Ayers sends his condolences–to the two of three robbers who got killed and caught.

There’s one still loose. Maybe Ayers’ university, the U. of Illinois, will give him a tenured teaching position.

Via the Philadelphia Daily News:

The mastermind of the Port Richmond bank robbery was Howard Cain, who was fatally shot by police Saturday while fleeing in a minivan minutes after he fired a once-banned high-powered Chinese assault rifle, killing Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, police say.

As investigators pieced together how a trio of killers met and plotted the deadly bank robbery, scores of police and FBI agents searched from Philadelphia to Lancaster County for the last suspect, Eric DeShawn Floyd, 34, an escapee from a drug-treatment facility called Adappt, in Reading.

Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey described Floyd as “armed and dangerous” and urged him to turn himself in. Yesterday, Lavon Warner, 38, a onetime sparring partner of former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield, was held without bail on murder, robbery and related charges after his arrest Saturday. Cain dreamed up the bank robbery, but his prison buddie, Floyd, had the expertise, police said…

…Cain apparently realized he couldn’t hold up a bank where he was known, so he and Floyd donned Muslim women’s clothes – a hijab covering their heads; long dresses, called an abaya; and face veils, called nik-ab – to prevent detection, the source said.

Warner, of Westminster Street near 54th, wore a dreadlock wig and dust mask, the source added. Then, the trio marched into the bank, and Sgt. Liczbinski responded to the bank robbery alarm at 11:26 a.m.

The trio hopped in a blue Jeep Liberty. Hearing flash information about the Jeep, Liczbinski chased the vehicle, which stopped twice before hitting a pole. Cain jumped out and fired the high-powered SKS assault rifle five times at the officer, hitting his left trunk and leaving him in a pool of blood, at Schiller and Almond streets, police said.

Liczbinski’s car had one bullet hole on the driver’s side door.

The Jeep took off. Cain and Warner then switched vehicles and changed clothes, hopping in a Chrysler Town and Country minivan, according to police. Cain was alone, however, when stopped by police on Louden Street near D, where he was killed by police.

At a news conference yesterday, Deputy Police Commissioner William Blackburn said that outside the minivan, police found the 7.62 mm SKS assault rifle, loaded with 25 rounds, which had been used in Liczbinski’s slaying. Five rounds found at the murder scene at Schiller and Almond streetswere consistent with the SKS rifle.

Inside the minivan was a .44-caliber revolver, fully loaded with five live rounds, two sets of Muslim clothing, $38,000 and two GPS tracking systems.

Under a trash can nearby in a common driveway, police recovered a fully loaded .22-caliber revolver and additional clothing linked to the robbery.

The officer’s last words: “Tell my wife I’ll miss her.”

An older man nearby had taken the fallen officer’s radio and was saying, “A police officer is down. He’s shot multiple times. Get an ambulance,” Braun said.

Braun yelled at another neighbor for towels to try to stop the gushing blood. She grabbed four kitchen towels and gave them to those trying to stop the bleeding, she said.

A neighbor tying to help Liczbinski looked up at Braun and said, “His arm is just dangling off.”

Petaccio said he had stayed with Liczbinski talking to him as he tried to save his life. He said Liczbinski had looked at him and said, “I want you to tell my wife I’ll miss her.”

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LGF notes that this isn’t the first time burqas have been used as robbery disguises.

Oh, and don’t worry: The cult of Mumia will be ready to welcome Liczbinski’s killers with open arms.

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Liczbinski’s Officer Down Memorial Page is here.

Donations can be sent to: Stephen Liczbinski Family Memorial Trust Fund, 901 Arch St., Philadelphia, PA 19107.

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  1. #311456
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, abstractmind said:

    i’m not religious either! Hate religion actually! ;)

  2. #311461
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box said:

    All problems can be blamed on Christians because most of America is Christian.

    I didn’t say that. But I am tired of every crime committed by a Muslim being held against the religion of Islam. There are criminals in every culture.

  3. #311463
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, abstractmind said:

    soap,

    w00t! ;) I know we’ve had other agnostic/atheists here, but at least i tend to make some sense LOL. Just because i’m not a christian doesnt mean i dont have a brain, or principles to guide me.

    We could have a Church of MM? *grin* makes me wonder who’d show up at the services!

  4. #311465
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, brooklyn red said:

    First, this is a terrible thing & condolences to the family.

    Second, “bank robbers armed with assault weapons and dressed head-to-toe in Muslim women’s clothing…”

    Oh, my. Cross-dressing, Cop-killing, Outlaws… Oh, my.

  5. #311472
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    lgm,

    you DID say it. Now, buzz off.

  6. #311487
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, abstractmind said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 10:09 am, lgm said:
    I’m with Rusty.

    Also, despite the headline the robbers were not Muslim. The fact that they chose to disguise themselves as Muslims does not reflect poorly on Islam. The robbers were Christians.
    Also, they had an assault rifle of a kind that was banned until recently — thanks to the NRA.

    Actually, you did say it. post number 6.

    And I’m not blaming a bunch of idiots for dressing in Islamic garb. The killers themselves don’t appear to be Islamic.

    I’m blaming the killers for being just that…killers. I dont care what religion they are. Their religion doesnt play into this to begin with anyway. They used a disguise. If i dress up in a nun outfit (which would be really odd methinks) and rob a bank, do we blame catholics even though i’m just wearing some cloth?

    Of course not.

    focus on the issue. These animals shot and killed an officer in the line of duty. While you DID say the above, I don’t recall you saying you were sorry it happened. You’ve gone right with the liberal agenda once again. If you did, and i missed it, i’ll stand corrected at that point.

  7. #311500
    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, RaisedRight said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, abstractmind said:

    And I’m not blaming a bunch of idiots for dressing in Islamic garb. The killers themselves don’t appear to be Islamic.

    I’m not sure if they are Muslim or not, from the article I would not have assumed so. But someone linked pictures in comment #26 and I must say that they do look like they could be because of their beards and forehead bruises. But again, I obviously don’t know for sure.

  8. #311539
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, abstractmind said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, RaisedRight said:
    I’m not sure if they are Muslim or not, from the article I would not have assumed so. But someone linked pictures in comment #26 and I must say that they do look like they could be because of their beards and forehead bruises. But again, I obviously don’t know for sure.

    Its possible, since i havent seen the pictures (gotta love corporate firewalls), but…even if they are, they’re still killers, plain and simple :)

    Let justice be swift and sure for the remaining killer at large.

  9. #311543
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, JHSII said:

    Dirk Belig #96

    The problem with your post is that it wasn’t a gaffe and Ann Coulter was right. Godless wasn’t torpedoed by the comment either – the liberal media wasn’t going to give it any positive publicity anyway.

  10. #311544
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, Chuck said:

    lgm said:
    Also, they had an assault rifle of a kind that was banned until recently — thanks to the NRA.

    Just how stupid do you have to be to be a troll? An SKS is NOT an assault rifle. It is a 7.62mm semi-automatic carbine. Go look it up in Wikipedia

    …Contrary to popular belief it is not a modern assault rifle. This is because it does not meet all of the criteria of a true assault rifle, …

    Although deadly the 7.62×39 is a somewhat weak round compared to ordinary .308 (7.62×51) and the venerable 30-06 which are everyday hunting rounds. Everytime lgm posts here it seems it can top itself in really dumb comments.

  11. #311559
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, cpodug said:

    Yeah – but he does hit all the libtards talking points

  12. #311560
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, RaisedRight said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, abstractmind said:
    …but…even if they are, they’re still killers, plain and simple

    That’s for sure. A crime should be a crime regardless of the particulars of race and religion.

  13. #311570
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, st_james said:

    I’m not saying they killed because they were Muslims, BUT, if you were to follow in the perfect example set by their delusional psycopathic pedophole ‘prophet’, there really is nothing wrong with robbing and killing the Kuffar. So, when followers from every other religion I know of would be going against the teaching of their religion if they were to kill and rob, a Muslim is merely asserting his justly granted right over non-followers( I intentionally didn’t say non-believers, as Islam is a faithless ‘religion’ ). That ideology seems exceptionally dangerous to the rights of ALL people that are granted to us by God. Time may tell as to what their motivation was, but, I will guarantee they won’t legitimately claim that Christ gave them the right to do what they did. ( and don’t start up about the IRA or I’ll have to slap you down on that too)

  14. #311575
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, Azygos said:

    Cain jumped out and fired the high-powered SKS assault rifle five times at the officer,

    Ok, can someone tell me exactly what an “assault weapon” is? I mean really, aren’t “weapons” made to specifically “assault” someone? It should never have been called the “Assault weapons ban” it is more properly called the “scary looking weapons ban.” Boomer has it correct, my hunting rifle has far more power than this “assault weapon.” I’m tired of gun fearing wussies blowing things out of proportion to what really is the case.

    Michelle,

    You do the 2nd amendment no favors by this post. I would request that you let an expert in weapons comment on the “assault weapon” comment from the liberal press just to set the record strait.

  15. #311583
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, DirkBelig said:

    JHSII said: The problem with your post is that it wasn’t a gaffe and Ann Coulter was right. Godless wasn’t torpedoed by the comment either – the liberal media wasn’t going to give it any positive publicity anyway.

    It WAS a gaffe because it allowed the Treason Media to totally ignore the book and saved them the time of trying to argue against its points (as if they could) by turning the discussion towards how mean and heartless Coulter and conservatives were. When Ann pointed out that no one was attacking her theses, it didn’t matter because everyone had decided that the Jersey Girls had been insulted. If she had said what I think she meant – they enjoyed “the benefits of” the deaths – then it wouldn’t have been so easy to castigate Coulter and ignore the book.

    Regardless, Michelle needs to clarify or retract the comment about Ayers. It doesn’t matter if he’s an unrepentant flag-stomping terrorist whom it could be surmised may be happy that a “pig” got killed, unless he has actually sent condolences, then Michelle has no business posting such comments, even sarcastically. It will be so easy for the Left to say, “Malkin posted that Ayers sent condolences to the robbers and he didn’t. She’s a liar and no one should ever believe anything she says about anything again.” Why do them the favor of an example proving them right?

    When you are allowed no leeway for error or inaccuracy by the Treason Media, you must make darn sure that you’ve got the goods for what you post. It’s not fair that they get to lie unchecked, but so what? Suck it up and walk the Truth like you talk it.

  16. #311595
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, abstractmind said:

    What makes an assault rifle such?

    Courtesy of Wiki on “Assault Rifle”

    The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally meaning “storm rifle”), “storm” used as a verb being synonymous with assault, as in “to storm the compound”. Sturmgewehr was coined by Adolf Hitler[1] to describe the Maschinenpistole 44, subsequently re-christened Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first true assault rifle and served to popularize the concept. The translation “assault rifle” gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the name giver StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]

    A carbine sized individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder.
    Capable of selective fire.
    Intermediate-power cartridge between pistol and traditional rifle.
    Ammunition is supplied from a large capacity detachable box magazine.
    The following features are commonly found on assault rifles, but those are not exclusive to assault rifles, as those features are shared with many submachine guns, battle rifles, automatic rifles, machine guns, and semi-automatic rifles:

    Protruding pistol grip.
    Muzzle device like a muzzle brake or a flash suppressor.
    There are commentators who use the expression “assault rifle” more loosely to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or civilian semi-automatic off-shoots of military rifles for commercial or political reasons. Some militaries of nations outside of the English-speaking world also have a different definition of assault rifle. For instance, the analogous term in the Swedish Armed Forces is automatkarbin (literally “automatic carbine”) which includes both assault rifles and battle rifles.

    The wiki for the SKS specifically contains the following at the top:

    The SKS is a Russian 7.62×39mm caliber semi-automatic carbine, designed in 1945 by Sergei Gavrilovich Simonov. SKS is an acronym for Samozaryadniy Karabin sistemi Simonova (Russian: Самозарядный карабин системы Симонова), 1945 (Self-loading Carbine, Simonov’s system, 1945), or SKS 45. The SKS carbine was rather quickly phased out of first-line service, replaced by the AK-47, but remained in second-line service for decades afterwards.

  17. #311609
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The murderer/robbers must have been Christian

    lgm, Christians are followers of Christ. Since Jesus didn’t rob banks, it seems pretty doubtful…

  18. #311614
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Barry F. said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 10:09 am, lgm said:
    I’m with Rusty.

    …The robbers were Christians…

    Did I miss that part somewhere or is lgm just omniscient?

  19. #311626
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, ADyer said:

    a once-banned high-powered Chinese assault rifle

    7.62 mm SKS assault rifle, loaded with 25 rounds

    These statements contradict each other and reality. This is an SKS. First, it is semi automatic, so it fires 1 shot for every pull of the trigger, but the wording above makes it sound otherwise. Second, It has a 10 round magazine fed by a stripper clip. I know of no way it could ever be made to hold 25 rounds. A 25 round magazine would be impractical if not detachable, and modifying an SKS to accept such a thing would seem pointless given that there are AK type weapons easily available that fill that role. Maybe someone with specific knowledge could say otherwise, but I’m skeptical of a 25 round SKS. Third, it is not high powered unless you compare it to a pistol. It fires the 7.62×39 Russian intermediate round, slightly more powerful than the 5.56×45 used in an M16 but in the same general league. It is at the very bottom end of the power scale with regards to long arms. Fourth, I do not believe the SKS was ever outlawed under the Clinton gun ban. That law by and large banned guns that looked mean, but the SKS looks more like a hunting rifle than a modern combat rifle. It lacks the high capacity detachable magazine and pistol grip typically associated with such things.

    It’s pretty clear that the author of the article is hostile to firearms rights in general.

  20. #311643
    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, RaisedRight said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Barry F. said:

    Did I miss that part somewhere or is lgm just omniscient?

    Oh, didn’t you know? lgm has the right to insult people in any manner he likes, pass judgment on whomever (whether based on facts or pulled out of thin air), use stereotypes, bash religions (although he only uses this one against Christianity), and engage in any ridiculous rhetorical device he likes. However, if any of us conservatives post a comment with even a whiff of any of that, he can and will point down from his mighty pedestal and condemn us for our cruelty, ignorance, hypocrisy, and intolerance!

    [Did you not get that memo?]

  21. #311681
    On May 5th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, sclawstudent said:

    /sarc on:
    But wait, all you anti-gun confiscation nuts who think you have a right to your own life are missing the whole point! We can expand government ownership of citizens even further, in a whole new direction!

    The trio hopped in a blue Jeep Liberty. Hearing flash information about the Jeep, Liczbinski chased the vehicle, which stopped twice before hitting a pole.

    Cain and Warner then switched vehicles and changed clothes, hopping in a Chrysler Town and Country minivan, according to police.

    Jeep is owned by Chrysler… The criminals all used Chrysler manufactured get-away vehicles!!! I DEMAND an immediate “Chrysler get-away vehicles of death” ban, with the outlawing of any transfer or modification of any “Chrysler get-away vehicle of death,” as well as a ban on the manufacture, transer or sale of any “get-away criminal transportation device of death” with a capacity over 2. Obviously, we need stricter “vehicles of death” control, with back-ground checks for everyone owning a “get-away criminal transportation device of death” capable of transporting criminals to or from a bank robbery.
    /sarc off

  22. #311683
    On May 5th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    [Did you not get that memo?]

    I thought it was implied. He is a liberal.

  23. #311699
    On May 5th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, cpodug said:

    … probably rode the short bus to school, too …

  24. #311737
    On May 5th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, JHSII said:

    Dirk Belig #115

    Sorry, but it doesn’t matter what a Conservative says, truth or not, fact or not, the treason media will distort it into something else. They don’t care a whit about error or accuracy. If you believe otherwise then you’re in for an umpleasant surprise.

  25. #311762
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, Dan Lee said:

    I see our resident liberal heeded the semi-cryptic sheeple call of Philadelphia Daily News, in throwing in the following gratuitous anti-gun rhetoric..

    he fired a once-banned high-powered Chinese assault rifle.”

    LGM, Would it have made you feel better if he threw a homemade grenade (pipebomb) à la Bill Ayers at the officer & killed him with that instead?

    Yes I know, Damn that NRA for protecting the consitutional rights of out nation, oh & those Home Improvement/Hardware Stores for carrying pipes, nails,fertilizer,kerosene & other bomb making materials!

    LGM, you come across like an idiot every time you type something. Did someone say this guy actually teaches?

    Now there’s a real reason for “Fear in America”..

    It’s terrible that the officer died in the line of duty & public service (something most liberals are pretty foreign to), but he could have just as easily gotten hit by Barack Hussein Osama’s gas guzzling SUV, (or one like it) while pursuing the suspect. Or maybe hit by Al Gore’s kid doing 100 MPH in his Toy Prius with pot billowing out the windows..

    Here, see if you can take your head of of your A$$ for a minute to read the facts of the real world, & the dangerous little shiny boxes that we all drive, in the hands of a moron during a Police Chase. Same situation, different weapon. You gonna sell your car now LGM? or forbid all your liberal friends from driving? Or are these standards only for everyone other than liberals?

    May God Bless the family of this officer for his bravery, & sacrifice.

    ~Dan Lee

  26. #311772
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, sasintexas said:

    This terrible tragedy is not about politics, muslims or gun laws, its about
    a human being whose life was ended by
    evil greedy men and should not be in any
    way political. Instead of blogging how
    about really making a difference and send something to his wife and children
    and even try saying a prayer for them.
    Thats what they need now and God bless
    officer Liczbinski and his family!

  27. #311799
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, abstractmind said:

    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, sasintexas said:

    Completely agree. Lets get the scumbag thats still out there, and let justice be done.

  28. #311896
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Dan Lee said:

    sasintexas said:
    This terrible tragedy is not about politics, muslims or gun laws, its about
    a human being whose life was ended by
    evil greedy men and should not be in any
    way political. Instead of blogging how
    about really making a difference and send something to his wife and children
    and even try saying a prayer for them.
    Thats what they need now and God bless
    officer Liczbinski and his family!

    Sorry but your wrong on all accounts (other than being charitable). Blogging protects our free speech right to speak out against Liberals who make up the majority of criminals in society. No voice, no power.. No power, means a power vacuum. Power vacuum eventually gets filled by Liberals, & world inevitably implodes on itself, like old Rome did.

    Might help you to read the history of nations who’s good people stay silent. Pre-Nazi Germany would be a good place to start. Silence on that issue is how Jews ended up in ovens.. ~Dan Lee

  29. #311901
    On May 5th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, abstractmind said:

    Dan, i dont think she was saying that we should be silent, just that there are more important facets of the story and that the issue itself should be paramount. thats what i took from her statement, anyway.

  30. #311944
    On May 5th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, Dan Lee said:

    That’s fine, & I’d agree with that in most cases, except this is the website of a Political Commentator..

    I don’t think anyone should be shocked when the politics that are present in almost any given situation get discussed here.

    It’s what political blogs do.. ~Dan Lee

  31. #312133
    On May 5th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, Ogre said:

    Well said ADyer

  32. #312142
    On May 5th, 2008 at 7:19 pm, Tantor said:

    The SKS is not an assault rifle, but rather a semi-automatic weapon. An assault weapon can fire in both automatic (like a machine gun) and semi-automatic modes. The SKS can not fire in automatic mode. It is a semi-automatic weapon which only fires one bullet every time you pull the trigger and reloads a bullet for the next trigger pull.

    This is another case of journalists calling every weapon they see an assault weapon when they wouldn’t know one if they tripped over one.

  33. #312164
    On May 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pm, Soliel said:

    Why is it the biggest losers are attracted to Islam? The religion attracts the lowest of the low. “By their fruits you shall know them”.

    This is so disgusting…I wish for peace for the family and for fierce punishment for the killers.

  34. #312168
    On May 5th, 2008 at 7:38 pm, zorro said:

    For Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, May God the Father Almighty rest his Soul and comfort his family.

    On May 5th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, RaisedRight said:
    englishqueen a liberal?! Ha! She gave that bad habit up a long time ago.

    Don’t worry EQ, I’m with abstractmind here. Most of us know where you stand. I can say, as another young conservative woman, I am almost always in full support of your comments.

    For the record, and to echo the above, in plain English, englishqueen is not a liberal! Far from it.

    Lastly, I miss the old days when the commenters here at Michelle’s signature site exercised Civility

  35. #312244
    On May 5th, 2008 at 9:17 pm, novaculus said:

    My condolences to the officer’s family. They will be in my prayers.

    Some points should be made:

    The author of the story, Kitty Caparella, is apparently getting her firearms info from Sarah Brady.

    1)The SKS is not and never was by any definition an “assault rifle”; it was a stop-gap adopted briefly by Soviet forces, actually obsolete by the time it went into production, which bridged the gap between old-fashioned bolt-action rifles and the AK-47, which is a real assault rifle. The Soviets did build millions for use by satellite countries, and China built many millions more. The gun grabbers and MSM have successfully corrupted the term “assault rifle” to include semi-automatic rifles that are similar in appearance to assault rifles, but assault rifles by definition are select-fire and can fire fully automatically like a machine gun, or semi-automatically like any number of handguns, shotguns, and rifles. But even by the corrupted definition favored by Sarah Brady and the MSM the SKS is not an assault rifle. It does not have a high capacity removable magazine, it does not have a pistol grip, flash hider, etc; the only thing it does have that would fall on the list of “banned” features is the bayonet (very useful for those urban bayonet charges).

    2) The SKS is not a “high-powered” rifle. It is a “medium-powered” rifle because it fires the relatively anemic 7.62×39 cartridge, and as at least one commenter noted above, the old .30-30 Winchester lever-action cowboy rifle cartridge has similar ballistics. In fact, assault rifles by definition DO NOT fire “high-power” cartridges; one of the advantages of real assault rifles is that they DO NOT fire high-power ammunition, making them more controllable in automatic fire mode, and allowing soldiers to carry more rounds of the smaller, lighter cartridges.

    3) The SKS was never “banned”, nor were any other assault rifles, or the “look-alike” assault rifles subject to the so-called assault weapons legislation. Only importation was banned; there was never any shortage of these rifles on the legal firearms market.

    It is absolutely disgraceful that this ignoramus is prostituting the murder of a police officer to pimp a bullshit anti-gun political agenda.

  36. #312258
    On May 5th, 2008 at 9:40 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM LGM LGM LGM LGM

    I’m with Rusty.

    That’s not always a good place to be

    Also, despite the headline the robbers were not Muslim. The fact that they chose to disguise themselves as Muslims does not reflect poorly on Islam. The robbers were Christians.

    Your pro-Islamic stance on here is well-documented, but I don’t suppose you’d care to PROVE that they are indeed Christians?

    Also, they had an assault rifle of a kind that was banned until recently — thanks to the NRA.

    If the NRA banned guns in all blue counties, crime would come to a screeching halt.

    Of course, that would be discrimination and you’d use it to wield accusations of racism.

    Sorry, LGM, those who own hunting rifles in Minnesota and Montana aren’t to blame.

    Rusty RUSTY rusty Rusty

    And turning this into a cheap political point does not serve the memory of Stephen Liczbinski. It does the opposite.

    Neither does sending kids to DC to read pre-planned speeches on how universal health care can help them.

  37. #312266
    On May 5th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    The murderer/robbers must have been Christian because they live in a country where most people are Christian.

    Abortion and gay rights in some places are NOT Christian values.

    How prejudiced of you! You’re just assuming that because they have English names.

    It is very unlikely that they are Muslim or Jewish or something else.

    There are tens of millions in this country who aren’t Christian! Many of them live on the East Coast!

    There is no indication Ayers ever tried to kill anyone. He’s smart enough that he would have succeeded. He’s never been charged with a crime.

    Hero worship aside, liberals, especially if you are non-Christian or have darker skin, are more likely than anyone else to get a free pass on rape and murder.

    LGM’s party promotes child sex abuse and high crime out of fear of being called racist.

    God bless this officer and his family! May he rest in peace in God’s Kingdom.

  38. #312280
    On May 5th, 2008 at 10:03 pm, Gator70 said:

    That website for fallen officers is pretty humbling. 35 officers killed in the line of duty here in the United States so far this year, 187 last year.

    Michelle, don’t change a thing, I got it.

  39. #312338
    On May 5th, 2008 at 11:08 pm, dreid said:

    The only way that the weapon info in the story makes sense is if it was a modified Norinco SKS. The modified Norinco SKS incorporated a 30 round AK-47 magazine. This weapon was not a commercial success and relatively few were made. The story mentioned that the suspect fired 5 shots at the slain police officer and that 25 rounds were found when the suspect was subdued. 5+25=30 rounds, the capacity for a magazine for the modified Norinco SKS.

  40. #312441
    On May 6th, 2008 at 1:30 am, novaculus said:

    dreid- Yes, could be a Norinco modification of the SKS, or could be an aftermarket hi-cap fixed mag. Neither worked very well; neither was common. The AKS semi-auto look-alike to the AK-47 was far superior and about the same price. Norincos were banned from importation, but not by the so-called assault weapons ban. They were banned by presidential order which affected all imports of Chinese military origin.

  41. #312527
    On May 6th, 2008 at 7:31 am, bilgerat said:

    God bless the family of Officer Liczbinski…your in our thoughts and prayers….

  42. #312873
    On May 6th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, sbw999 said:

    Cops..never paid enough for the job they do. And with the lack of respect that they receive from the left and from the citizens they protect, Im surprised that any of them put up with being a cop. RIP Officer Liczbinski!!!

    PS: Michelle: I was looking for the link in the article on Ayers, after I read your comment. Most right thinking people despise Ayers…but throwing that in there allows the scumbag left to get on their soapbox about right wing bloggers. Ayers probably is thinking just what you wrote, but you are too good a journalist/blogger to make a statement that sounded like it was something that he really did, when it wasnt true.

  43. #313134
    On May 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, ADyer said:

    With regards to the religion of the criminals, I doubt they were Muslims. Certainly possible, given the MSM’s tendency to leave that little fact out in order to avoid calling attention to Islam’s relationship with violence. But as this was a crime not apparently associated in any meaningful way with Jihadist violence, I’d venture that the criminals’ faith of choice matters very little.

    What does matter, however, is the fact that they abused our illogical special tolerance for Muslim customs to conceal their identities. A guy in black clothes wearing a ski mask will immediately draw attention, but when they disguised as Muslim women they effectively made themselves immune to questions about their attire. To do so would be “insensitive” to Muslims. Societal norms have evolved for a reason. A person with no sinister intentions rarely has a reason to hide his or her face, thus society views people in disguise with legitimate suspicion. We’ve allowed sensitivity to once again overrule common sense.

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