Hoosier/Tar Heel Tuesday: Who’ll be more bitter tonight? Update: Obama routs in NC; Update: CBS calls Indy for Hill; kerfuffle over ID-less nuns; Hillary’s Hail Mary talk heats up: 2,209 is the new magic number;Update: Obama disses Hill’s “game-changer” rhetoric
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Got your popcorn or arugula salad? At the end of tonight, neither candidate may be closer to closing the deal than before the beginning of the day.
Which is going to make an already p.o.’ed Michelle Obama even more bitter.
Lorie Byrd has a good NC roundup. The Hot Air guys are liveblogging.
Prelim exit polls via ABC News show that the Wright debacle did significant damage:
Preliminary exit poll results indicate that just under half of Democratic primary voters in Indiana and North Carolina alike call the controversy surrounding the Rev. Jeremiah Wright an important factor in their vote, a potential wildcard in the outcome of these two contests.
Nonetheless, any impact of the Wright controversy could be mitigated by early decision-making: In both states around three-quarters of voters or more say they made up their minds before last week, when the debate over Obama’s ex-minister heightened. That’s more early deciders than usual; the average across all primaries to date has been 67 percent.
Economic concerns are riding particularly high; nearly two-thirds in Indiana say the economy is the single most important issue in their vote, the highest in any primary to date. Six in 10 pick it as the top issue in North Carolina as well. Nearly half in Indiana also say the current economic slowdown has affected them “a great deal”; somewhat fewer report that much of an impact in North Carolina.
These preliminary results indicate that a third of North Carolina’s voters are African-Americans, in line with the norm, e.g. 31 percent in 1992, the last primary there for which exit poll data are available. So far this year Obama has won all seven of the primaries in which blacks accounted for at least 30 percent of Democratic voters.
As in Pennsylvania, there’s some continued criticism of Clinton in terms of the tone of the campaign. In North Carolina two-thirds of voters say she attacked her opponent unfairly, as do about six in 10 in Indiana. Fewer in both states say Obama attacked unfairly.
Similarly, in a continued weakness for Clinton, fewer voters in both states rate her as “honest and trustworthy” than feel that way about Obama.
More than six in 10 voters in both states say they’d be satisfied with either Obama or Clinton as the nominee but that leaves substantial numbers of these Democratic primary voters (admittedly in the heat of battle) who say they wouldn’t be satisfied. Indeed, in Clinton and Obama matchups against John McCain, anywhere from a quarter to three in 10 Democrats in these primaries say they either wouldn’t vote or would support the Republican.
In Indiana, working-class whites are one group to watch; Obama has tried to improve his appeal to this group since losing them by 2-1 in Pennsylvania, and indeed by nearly as wide a margin, 59-33 percent, across all primaries to date. Obama also will look to independents in Indiana’s open primary; they accounted for 31 percent of voters there in 1992, far more than the norm in primaries this year. Preliminary exit poll results indicate less of a turnout among independents in Indiana, but more than usual Republicans voting in the state’s open primary.
PJM continuing coverage here.
Pollster.com has a predictions round-up. Feel free to leave yours.
Stay tuned.
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Update: It’s a solid rout for Obama in NC.
Update: Nuns show up to polls without ID; fellow nun says “tough noogies.” Well, not literally. But good for her. The law’s the law.
JWF notes the NYTimes’ hysteria over the incident.
Update: CBS calls Indiana for Hillary. Almost half of precincts are in; 56-44. The Obama camp strategists–David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs–are talking to reporters in Raleigh. Change, change. Blah, blah.
Axelrod: “The math is the math…Sen. Clinton would have to close to win close to 70 percent of both superdelegates and pledged delegates from here on out…that’s a tall order…tortured constructions from the other side…our momentum will continue to build…”
On CNN, Wolf Blitzer asks John King why they haven’t called the race.
King: “Because we’re conservative by nature.”
Snort.
Update: The chatter about including Florida and Michigan heats up:
…her camp is suggesting that the FL and MI delegate counts should be included in the total number needed to secure the nom, boosting the magic no. to 2,209 from 2,025. It’s not a wholly new argument, just the latest derivation of the Clinton team’s pitch to count FL and MI in her favor.
Politico’s Mike Allen is reporting that Harold Ickes, Clinton’s chief delegate strategist, said in a telephone interview that the IL senator could come out of the last contest June 3 “substantially less than 100 delegates behind” Obama’s total if those two states are included.
“We don’t believe that this party is going to go forward into a presidential race without seating both Florida and Michigan,” Ickes told Allen.
Update: Stacy McCain’s liveblogging from the West Virginia Obama HQ.
Hillary’s electability shield is deactivated, via CNN:
The core of Hillary Clinton’s argument to superdelegates has been her electability – that she is the candidate most likely to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in November. But according to exit polls, voters don’t share that view.
In Indiana, Democratic primary voters were equally split over who was most likely to beat McCain, with both drawing 48 percent. And in North Carolina, voters gave the edge to Barack Obama: 54 percent thought he was more likely to win in November, while 40 percent chose Clinton.
Update: Here is the Associated Press headline on the Obama Indiana win: “Obama victory racially lopsided in NC.”
Update: Harold Ickes pushes the 2,209 New Math. More from Christina Bellatoni at the WashTimes.
Update: Fred Barnes disses the “lower class.” Ugh.
Update: It’s about 9:11pm Eastern and the Obamas are stepping on stage in Raleigh. Bruce Springsteen music is playing. Huge roar and a massive audience of HopeNChange-ians.
Obama throws back Hillary’s “game changer” rhetoric in her face.
“The only game that needs changing is the one in Washington D.C.”
He congratulates Hillary for her Indiana victory. Crowd boos.
Makes special note of winning in a swing state, big state. “Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the presidential nomination.”
9:29pm Eastern. He’s been sounding his HopeNChange themes, the sunny side to Michelle’s bitter darkness.
9:33pm Eastern. Back to resentment-stoking. Greedy lenders kicking people out of their homes. Blah, blah.
Shouting: “I love this country too much to see it divided and distracted…I know the promise of America because I’ve lived it!”
“May God bless the U of–United States of America.”
9:38pm Eastern. Funny: Brit Hume spotlights a rapt woman in the audience gazing at the heavens as Obama spoke.
Miraculously, she was able to resist fainting.
USAToday has the full prepared text of Obama’s speech here (PDF). Make note of his explicit refutation of the argument that Clinton supporters won’t support Obama. “I don’t believe it.”
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popcorn at the ready cant wait , Let the blood letting begin
as i’ve said before, i’d really like shillery to go away after tonite, but we shall see …
/if indeed NC goes b.o.’s way. sure would be nice for IN to be at least close, then it’s a clear “win” for him …
who I really want answering the phone at 3am
Personally, I’d prefer they fought it out with pistols at 2 paces, and tied.
No matter which way it goes there will be good TV tonight
I’m starting to think that the Dem’s will have no choice but to put Hill and BO on the same ticket or there will be uber-chaos.
I don’t think the Independents in Indiana will be doing him any favors. The bloom came off the rose when the Wright controversey hit. If Barack is the nominee, he won’t get them back unless/until the general election when McCain is turned into the third Bush brother. Hillary wins Indiana.
Hillary will also win WV and KY, where she’ll clean up the poor, uneducated, “bitter” white person vote. Obama wins Oregon, and will continue to do well in the liberal west coast. I’m not convinced Hillary wins Puerto Rico, but it really doesn’t matter. She is toast unless Michigan and Florida are seated. If that happens, the democratic party is toast in December, because of record low turnout in protest.
As I stated this morning in another post, what we will see tonight is the ugly, growing trend among Democrats – blacks voting for BO (who is hardly black, but that’s another story), and whites voting for HRC.
With the donkeys, the color of your ass is more important than the content of your ass’s character. Que triste.
One of the best results of tonight, whether Hillary drops out or stays in, is that the democrat part faces very obvious and very public disarray. Tonights results should underscore the fact that neither of the two democrat candidates can deliver on promises of unity and bridge-building, because if it were even marginally true, then these primaries would have already concluded. It is a real shame though that we don’t have a candidate for president who would use this golden opportunity to not only put the proverbial nail in the Clinton’s politcal coffin, but make public note of Obama’s vapidity. There is such a gleaming jewel of opportunity in this moment–and it thoroughly depresses me to think that what I can expect of McCain is a press statement congratulating both democrats on ‘fine campaigning’ and possibly even a reiteration of his statement that either would make a fine president if they were to win. *sigh*
Gonna get my popcorn and beer ready! LOL Let the fun begin!
Can we have that a three way with Mccain coming in a tie too?
S.C. called for Obambi in 5, 4, 3, 2, …..
The wife just told me to get off the computer and get the popcorn going in the microwave. Here is hoping “she who must no be named” continues to force this thing all the way to Denver. Game on!
Fox is calling for an Obama win in North Carolina – Lord help us!
…making it easier for “voters” to cross state lines?
mistressjustice, the Michigan and Florida thing is going to get ugly. Hillary won’t just walk away.
Can anyone explain how Obama is attracting the votes of those who have a college education?
“Can anyone explain how Obama is attracting the votes of those who have a college education?”
jeopardy style — “Alex, ‘What is the end result of 4 years of indoctrination from marxist professors?’”
I guess it’s a Prof Ayers thing that I don’t get either.
Sad to say, but the question kind of answers itself.
As for McCain and his Razie friends, his pandering might make perverted sense (in terms of real politics) if it were to lead to a huge Hispanic crossover vote for Republicans. But it won’t. The Razies and their ilk will turn right around and vote for the Dems (or the highest bidder which amounts to the same thing), and once again make fools of the GOP. Not a terribly difficult thing to do, as we all know.
John (pancho villa) McCain (D-Mexico city) is the reconquista candidate. Hillary is the most masculine of the candidates. Barack is the sesame street candidate. Im not a Pancho fan but I thank my lucky stars I don’t have voting for the other two on my permanent record.
Pistols at two paces is ok but I would like to have some sort of rock solid garontee. How bout tactical nukes at three paces and I agree Pancho joins in the fray.
When you consider that Obama is attracting the college educated voters, the “give me a free (fill in the blank)” voters, and the black voters, this country doesn’t stand a chance.
IN — 36% in, 57-43, and noone is calling it??
/has not a single precinct from an urban area reported yet or sumtin’?
No surprise here — looks like Obama has established his bonafides at last — with the democrat voters who find Rev. Wright just too cool for words. Whether that will impact the votes of those who are less enchanted with the reverend is the question of the night.
Go Hillary.
Tough Noogies? I bet you used to talk to the nuns that way – the ruler marks are probably still on your wrists.
One odd thing, at least one had an out-of-date passport. Did she become someone else when it expired? Just asking…
iirc, if you wanna use a passport as voting i.d., it’s gotta be current …
/tho yes, having an expired one can be used for employment verification — funny dat …
Where in the hell was homeland security and the TSA?
Looks like CNN is calling Obama in NC
Is John a stooge put up there to take a fall? You know like the fight game of the early 20th century was famous for? Its either that or he is the dumbest candidate I have ever seen and that’s sayin something, believe me. Its all a little fishy to me John and the race, Barack and the racists and terrorists its almost as if it was planned that way, damn good plan I really hate to say.
Typical Donks. Changing the rules after the game was played and lost. Tried it in FL and succeeded in NJ.
What a bunch of sore losers.
RWR
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I’m so using that!
Properly quoted, of course.
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How can the Dems NOT count Florida and Michangan? Aren’t they the people who believe that every single vote must be counted, valid or not? How can they disenfranchise two entire states?
I won’t have voting for Pancho on my permanent record, either … or my conscience, for that matter.
RWR
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Who says Barack Obama isn’t polarizing? If not, then why did he get over 90% of the black vote in North Carolina. He is dreadfully polarizing and so is the other Demofascist liar, Hillary Clinton.
What’s great is that tonight was another resounding success for Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos. Kudos go out to Rush and the thousands of operatives who mobilized today!!
I don’t know. Ask someone who pulled his lever.
Hands down the worst candidate the party could have chosen. Bad enough to get people like me to decide to look elsewhere for a candidate. I’d have voted for any of the others, I think. Not this idiot.
RWR
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I am watching the local and national coverage here in NC and i heard both say that the democrat party is split big time which is true thanks to operation chaos hahaha…btw i having my popcorn atfer dinner..so far it is fun to watch better than that crap american idol
Yeah why not count every vote break out the electron microscope! My favorite thing about the dems is the commissars er super delegates. What fools they really think they are voting. Hey dems your vote means nada opps nothing, your overlords will make the final decision they can’t have the riff raff deciding the outcome its so, well, dirty.
#34 That’s the trouble, I have yet to find anyone who voted for him. As I said fishy, something is rotten and it aint in Denmark.
I have a headache. And I’m not even a Democrat.
“I’d have voted for any of the others”
ahhh, a ronulan ..
/this explains so much …
Fred Barnes has always been one of the more obnoxious commentators; on immigration he was one of the worst ones, calling pro-enforcement people nativists, xenophobes, and every other insult he could think of. He was pro-Harriet Miers, ridiculed the opposition to the ports deal, and ironically, he isn’t very bright; he’s a parrot who repeats whatever the White House tells him to repeat.
I’m listening to Obama’s acceptance speech in Raleigh, NC. Oh my Lord! He is going to change the world, ladies and gentlemen! He sounds a bit like the Reverend.
“sounds a bit like the Reverend.”
birds .. feather …
Can I make plans to quit my job by January? Obama is going to take of all of us. Oh goody! It feels like Christmas!
sarc/
Fred Barnes,Mort Kondracke, Karl Rove,Bill Kristol– just elitist PIGS…and put Bill O’Reilly in that crowd tooo. These guys just don’t get it! They sit insulated from real life while espousing their wisdom from on high.They have no conception of people whose livlihoods have been ruined by Illegals stealing their occupations en masse., nor do they care. Rove doesn’t want his kid to ever work for a living….too bad, that tends to build character which might be why he lacks any.
I really don’t care who wins this race tonight….NONE of the frontrunners are worth SPIT!
If BOH becomes the next POTUS i will eat my hat.. And then move even further into the Alaskan wilderness where i will have a front row seat to watch the contrails from the nukes flying back and forth..
Change isn’t always for the better. The only change BO has made for me is that he has replaced HRC as the nominee I find most vile. Never thought it would happen, but he apparently does work miracles.
Okay I need some help here. I was listening to Snobama give his “victory” speech. Did he not say and I am paraphrasing here ‘that we need to talk to our enemies and cited FDR, Truman and JFk as examples of leaders who did’.
Even though I am a product of government schools, this does not comport with what I know of history. As far as I know FDR and Truman did not sit down with Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo amongst others. They knew what evil was and destroyed it.The only loser who I know talked to Hitler was Chamberlain, that name says it all.
Maybe someone here can educate me and tell me what I am missing. If what I heard is accurate, I hope somebody in the Rep Party pounces upon it as sign of his ignorance.
Ohhh did i say BOH? Oooops, hey ya know i kinda like that.
At 9:18 BO really puts the pressure on Hillary, I’m betting a joint ticket unless Hillary just can’t give…
# 46 TUO
mebbe he’s counting fdr sitting down with stalin …
/jus’ guessin’
Well there is some good news!!!
Apparently Tar Heels aren’t bitterly clinging to their guns. *Dad lives there*
But Hoosiers are apparently still bitter, still clinging, and reading the Gospel to boot.
We’ve got a little change and a little hope.
FDR sat down with Churchill.
Truman nuked Japan.
Kennedy stared down Castro and Kruschev.
Rodham stared down Paula Jones.
Jesus Obama had lunch with Rev.Wright and Bill Ayers.
Has that cleared things up?
The college educated must be the kids still in college that haven’t learned how to think for themselves yet outside of a classroom, and liberal professors.
Bet the push is really on now to get those Fla. and Mich. votes. Wonder if she will get them?
Well, back to my popcorn.
Six percent of democrat blacks had the brains to not vote for Barack in NC. Well done people now go forth and spread your wisdom far and wide. The road won’t be easy there’s a lot of hard work to be done. Don’t forget the drool buckets. Is it any wonder that Barack can say anything and his supporters will believe it? I’m thinking that if Barack learned any history via his church it will be unreliable to say the least.
I stopped watching Fox years ago I figured out that they were not much different than their competition. You know, mscmbc without the drool cups.
Okay, I’m SHOCKED at how close Indiana is. I figured Hillary would win by 8 or more points with the rural voters, and Operation Chaos allowed due to the system. Hillary won’t drop out, because she’s going to try to spin wins in WV and KY, like they mean a damn thing.
One idea for the Michigan/Florida issue:
The SuperDelates, for the sake of unifying the party, could consider unifying behind Barack by 200 votes or more. Then, once Obama has achieved the magic number, seat the Florida and Michigan delegations, once it doesn’t matter.
Hopefully, Dean and all future party officials learn from the biggest, dumbest, poorly analyzed polictical blunders in the history of American policics. Heads should role for that Michigan/Florida fiasco.
Why hasn’t anyone synopsized who votes for these 2 clowns yet.
Naive, young, students, elitists, quiche and chardonnay libs plus blacks vote Jesus Obama.
Hard core pro-abortion women, unions unions unions, and hispanics vote for Rodham.
The idealitic idiots vote for Obama, along with the guilty racial conscience libs, plus blacks.
The gimme gimme gimme, I’m greasin at the gubmint trough unions, and entrenched special interest Dems vote Rodham.
It is COMPLETELY PREDICTABLE.
Emotional crips vote Obama.
Calculating libs vote for Rodham.
83% in, 52-48 — c’mon you media pukes, just call it — i know that it’ll “hurt” your golden boy, but sheesh …
Buck and Lib thanks for educating me. I should have known that Ayers and Churchill are/were men of equal stature in the fight against the USA’s enemies. Forgive my ignorance. /sarc off
Time for more popcorn and where are the seagulls?
Tgusa, you are a bit wrong about FOX and the MSM.
E.G. The Bears play the Packers. WTMJ in Milwaukee roots for the Pack. WBBM in Chicago roots for the Bears.
The national broadcast roots for the Pack. The national radio broadcast roots for the Pack. The ARMED SERVICES broadcast roots for the Pack, the Spanish language broadcast roots for the Pack.
All national media roots for bleeding heart, money grabbing, high taxing, moral high ground grabbing, pandering to the minorities, unions, teachers, blacks, pinks, gays and abortion lovers.
I.E. Libs. They are themselves, nearly down to a man LIBS.
FOX roots for Conservative causes.
What a sin.
Buckaroo, have you ever seen the pics of Madeline-not-so- Albright sharing champagne with Kim Jong Elvis Il??
She brought him an autographed Michael Jordan basketball too.
I love to link the pics when some lgm or Rusty start getting…..UPPITY.
Who woulda thought…Lake County Indiana, Gary Indiana, Slow absentee ballot count reported by CNN. (It’s like someone’s saving the best for last.)
Obama is going to carry it, but the big story is by how much.
I’m guessing they have to count them enough times until they get them “right.”
# 59 lc
i vaugely remember 1/2-bright’s trip there. like much of the clinton years, i try to blot it out …
Some fella from MSNBC just stole my Fl/Michigan take from #54. He reads this blog.
Hillary is going to have to be bullied out of this process, because she isn’t quitting.
“Some fella from MSNBC just stole my Fl/Michigan take from #54…”
And you gave him some good arguments too. Good post, darn it!
Man, there’s something to be said for steadfast delusion.
My question is, why would anyone consider voting for Barack anymore? Hasn’t he stuck his foot in his mouth a little too often for his own good? If it was any other candidate, they’d be long gone.
Yes you are right libocrat they are different than the others I’ll give you that but still not conservative imho. However its been awhile maybe they have changed. My main problem with the media is the Hollywood freak shows they seek out continuously, the fact that every other commenter is a lawyer, the slow speed police chases I got to the point where they all aggravated me. I know how to spot good newspeople years ago when msnbc came on the scene Gibson was one of my favorites but he was it there there were no others. Fox was new and we didn’t get it at the time but shortly thereafter we did. As I tired of them I found the net and it became more informative each day. Now I will never go back. I’m free, free to find out what I want when I want it, or not. Thirty years ago I had subscriptions to US news Newsweek Time back when they were good thankfully I don’t have to rely on that today either.
Hillary is making a victory speech on Rusty Humpfries right now.
Isn’t it ironic, Hillary just made a statement about how she remembered the America of her youth where everyone had a chance as long as they applied themselves.
Shouldn’t she apply that same logic to the country instead of promising freebies and handouts to all the slobs that won’t apply themselves?
You heard the speech. This woman either doesn’t know the score, or she is going to try, to beg, lie, cheat, and scheme her way to the White House.
Not this time Sistah.
Hillary is still calling for counting the votes of Florida and Michigan. She will do anything to win. This just means more fighting within the Democratic Party. Hope they knock each other out.
As long as the two don’t join forces and run together as pres and VP candidates! Oh…that would be horrible.
Wait…did I just hear that right? Bill Clinton is going on Limbaugh’s show?
“join forces and run together as pres and VP candidates”
au contrare, that would be awesome! i’d almost pay to see that!
I could not agree more with your take on Barnes. I can not believe that I accepted him so long as one of the good guys. It was because he came from a den of liberals over at The New Republic and ~seemed~ conservative by comparison. But, yea, I am sickened by him.
But your observation that I like the most is “that he is not very bright.” Ouch! That smarts. It is the kind of line one might toss carelessly out just to trash someone. But in this case, it BITES. And that is because it is startlingly true.
And, maisy, I am ~so~ down with your sentiments! I have nothing but bitter contempt for FOX myself, the sort of feeling that you can only have after ending an affair with a feel of being betrayed. And I have stopped excluding Saint Brit Hume from the criticism. He is not as big a moron as most of them, but it is so obvious that he has been in Washington far too long.
And, yea, none of the candidates are worth spit, like you said. And I am damn sure not going to vote for the one who happens to be a bit less of a leftist than the other two. He is actually the one who has shown the most arrogance and contempt for my vote. Maverick candidate, meet maverick non-voter.
Brit Hume just told, the longest, dullest story I’ve ever heard in my life. Get that man a cup of coffee, better yet, put him to bed.
Hillary is hella evil.
Brit has two modes; slow and excruciating.
Jesus Obama is painfully inadequate.
Rodham is just painful.
Liberals do not care about their candidates, they care about their agenda.
Jesus Obama cannot beat Rodham.
She will/would/might/could/would/ bite Jesus on the scrotum. The Democrat party is so beyond filthy as to be “puke worthy”.
I got home from work and turned on the tv to see Hillary giving her concession speech – at least that what it seemed to be, given her subdued demeanor and the angry red-faced buffoon standing behind her. I’m so used to hitting the mute button when she comes on, because I cannot tolerate her screechy whiny sermons, but this time I was almost seduced into listening – almost. Commentary from her supporters suggested they heard another speech altogether, however. Some (the Rachel chick from Air America) thought she was about to dig in her heels and get really serious!
I wonder if those final Indiana ballots are from the area bordering Cook County?
It’s all pretty sad but we did get some good comedy with “Operation Chaos” at least. My favorite: Sound bite of HuffPuff pronouncing Operation Chaos, lol that was great. Always reminds me of “Green Acres”
Looks like the Obama people are using the Zimbabwe tactic of holding back the votes until the end to make sure you have enough. Same thugs different country.
Wake me when both conventions are over. Only then will I know whether I’ll vote for the top of the GOP ticket. Unless McCain is forced to accept a real conservative as VP, that box will be blank on my ballot. The really important wars will be waged in Congress where either McCain or his opponent will unceremoniously try to ram a leftist agenda down our collective throat. Don’t sit out the election. Work for conservatives in Congress!
LOL At least all this is entertaining.
Bachbone – I’d love to work for conservative candidates, but I live in the People’s Republik of Kalifornia. My votes never count here. *sigh*
Okay seriously, if you were B. Hussein… would you seriously consider having Hillary on the bottom of the ticket? One
bulleter…suicideer… misstep away from the POTUS.# 84 J
not w/o hiring a full-time food taster …
Hillary got trounced by a moron with the right skin color. Guess the gender thing did not play out.
So long as Hillary has a numerical possibility if FL and MI are counted, she’s just mean enough to employ a “scorched earth” ploy at the convention. Walk-outs by committed delegates, unstoppable chanting: “We want Hillary”, etc., etc. Good stuff! However,the joy of a Dem self-destruct will be muted/snuffed when we remember our alternative. So sad …
Joy, you can work for conservatives in Congress. Google “Club for Growth.” There is a CA blog. Pooling your donations can help elect fiscal conservatives. Don’t give up the entire ship just because el capitan wants to sink it.
Man.. what happened last night/early this morning? I had to go to bed early because I have to get the kids to school. I am shocked at how narrow Hillary won. WOW!
Republicans hard at work protecting innocents from the scurge of voter fraud.
90% of the black vote…that’s how obummer did it. And a lot of uneducated fools that think this charlatain is going to fatten their wallet.
A lot of people felt lake and porter counties (closest to Chicago) could have gone to Hillary because the local press was even tougher on wright than the msm.
Yeah, actions have consequences. DOn’t wanna get the ID even though you’ve been told it’s a requirement? Don’t get to vote. Suck.It.Up.
Just sayin.
#84 Joy, I never thought about that. Hmm I wonder if workmans comp covers that sort of employment related misstep er mishap?
It all goes back to demoncrats and their lyin cheatin and stealin. We are sick of ya’ll voting twice when by all Doctors accounts you should be locked up not roaming the streets voting and stuff. Demoncrats can’t help themselves they are even campaigning inside the voting locations. Rules were made to be broken is what the demoncrat juvenile delinquents will say if you catch them at it. Demoncrats would steal candy from a baby if no one was watching them.
Demoncrats are worried about an old lady that they prolly set up for this by saying (lying, same thing) they were getting her valid ID months ago. Demoncrats are allegedly concerned about individual citizens voting rights, the entire states of Michigan and Florida not so much, retards.
cicerokid said (#91):
People with a college education strongly prefer Obama to Clinton. They also are more liberal than “uneducated fools”. Your comment is racist to boot.