How Planned Parenthood celebrates Mother’s Day
Ugh:
With Mother’s Day coming up this weekend, Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion business, has a message for moms: send us more money. Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, sent out a fund-raising request this week one pro-life advocate says is grotesque.
Richards honored Mother’s Day by sharing part of an editorial her daughter wrote saying she got her pro-abortion views from her mother and grandmother, former Texas Gov. Ann Richards.
“It’s true that I have had lots of rewarding moments in my career. So did my mother,” Cecile wrote in the email LifeNews.com obtained. “But knowing that my daughter is carrying on the legacy of fighting that my mother passed to me trumps ‘em all.”
Richard couldn’t wait until the third paragraph of her Mother’s Day letter to PPFA supporters to ask them to open their wallets.
“This Mother’s Day, I’m honoring that legacy with a Planned Parenthood Federation of America Mother’s Day gift. Join me,” she wrote.
“You can help with a gift to Planned Parenthood Federation of America today in honor of your mother or daughter, and on behalf of all the women,” she added.
Pro-life blogger Jill Stanek called Richard’s exploitation of Mother’s Day for pro-abortion money-making purposes “grotesque” and said she couldn’t believe Richards would stoop to “using her dead mother and daughter as props.”
“This pathetic woman is so psychologically and emotionally invested in abortion she has no semblance of conscience left,” Stanek said. “If and when she has grandchildren, I’m sure she’ll use them too.”
Richards said passing on her pro-abortion mantra to her daughter Hannah and her younger children Lily and Daniel is “the best gift any mother can give her children.”
“My mom did that for me and my siblings. And I’ve worked to do that for [my children],” she wrote.
And no, this is not an Onion parody.
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Not to be nosy, but if she’s such a staunch supporter of abortion, how does it happen that she has any children of her own?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Chutzpah. Raw, unadulterated, chutzpah.
Don’t know what else to say.
Yet, they were all for keeping Tookie Williams alive. Sick people.
Poor Cecile Richards, she can’t help it. She was born with silver abortion forceps in her mouth.
Irony: A group that kills babies and wounds a mother is asking for money on Mother’s Day.
Is Osama bin Laden going to reach out for donations to fund his ongoing terrorist network on 9/11 this year?
Nutjobs. They are simply nutjobs.
If she passed this on to her children how will she have grandchildren? Maybe they shouldn’t procreate!
Isn’t avoiding being a Mother’s Day honoree the point of Planned Parenthood?
It seems that I may have unwittingly have already…
And even if taxpayers weren’t contributing… they have raked in over a billion dollars in profit… Not bad for a not-for-profit organization.
I’ll keep to myself what I really think PP should do.
correction - It seems that I may have, unwittingly, already…
Typically bitter liberals…constantly clinging to their taxpayer funded clean needles, condoms and abortions.
Pro-Abortion. Not even Pro-Choice, its Pro-Abortion now? If they’re so proud of abortions, they should write a love letter to the Chinese government. Have a Holiday or theme party. Disgusting.
Where ever this train ends doesn’t matter, because this service is awfully lousy.
It’s amazing that her kids, abortion survivors, share her views.
I guess it’s easy to take that position, since they’re already here, alive.
How about making abortion retroactive? Was this daughter of Ann “The Lizard” Richards planned? If not, she should practice what she preaches, offer herself up and take one for her team.
These people, for the lack of a better word, disgust me.
Truly unbelievable.
I’d like to stop funding this with tax payer money.
How do we do that??
I refuse to think on this today, in advance of this weekend. On Sunday, my grandmother, aunt, cousin and her daughter are going to speak at church as 4 generations of women in my family. 3 generations of mothers.
He probably already does that. It might have something to do with the way his supporters view 9/11.
A better analogy would be MoveOn.org soliciting donations to help end the War on Terror on 9/11.
On second thought, the probably already do that too.
100% disgusting. Give to an organization designed to keep women from being mothers to celebrate mother’s day? The worst part about the pro-choice movement is that they have no concept that advocating killing babies should not be acceptable. They do it with pride and glee.
Anyway, if I don’t tell you or post until then, happy mother’s day Michelle.
Ummmmmm … but it’s for the children?
Yeah, ok!
And did you know gullible is not even in the dictionary? Really! Look it up!
And the fact that MY tax money goes to support these people??? Shouldn’t the “profits” of this non-profit go towards paying back the taxpayer for their unwanted burden and punishment that they have had to bear for much longer than nine months?
I.Don’t.Think.So.
You specialize in ripping babies from their mother’s womb. I think I’ll send my funds to an organization that actually does help women.
Touché
Hmm, given her zeal for abortions I’d say the best gift this woman gave her children was the decision not to kill them.
These people have absolutely no concept of Mothers Day.
There are some of us where babies just unfortunately, ain’t in the cards.
This puts an even more heartbreaking spin on this carp for me personally.
Keeping this organization fat and happy on any other day, makes me itch. But to exploit Mothers Day like this…I didnt think it was possible for this organization to stoop any lower.
I would like to see the letters PP might send on National Fetal Cranial Vacuum Day.
Each day we see, in print MSM, graphic images of wounded servicemen and civilians designed to drive opposition to the Iraq war. Just try purchasing ad space featuring the graphic images of abortion’s victims to drive opposition to abortion.
In Nat Hentoff’s words, “Free speech for me, but not for thee” (even if you’re willing to pay to express it).
The 10 week old fetus is not a person unless you believe in ghosts (souls). It has no higher consciousness and less brain activity than a frog.
Maybe you don’t agree with this, but you have to admit it is plausible (I know, you don’t have to admit anything — let the manhole covering the wingnut sewer dwellers stay firmly sealed).
Now before you all start pounding on Planned Parenthood (and me), here is a quote from their site:
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You have three choices if you are pregnant.
You can choose to have a baby and raise the child.
You can choose to have a baby and place the child for adoption.
You can choose to end the pregnancy.
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Plannedparenthood.org is definitely not an abortion mill. Abortion is not even a priority on their home page.
And before anyone starts pounding ME, here are my feelings on the subject:
I believe that the real problem is that abortions are being used as a form of birth control, which bothers me tremendously too.
It is my wish that more people become educated to the risks of STD’s, that they resist peer and media pressure for casual and experimental sex, and that they use preventive birth control as responsible adults.
Black Roses were a nice touch…Lord Soth was unavailable for comment. Yes, i’m that much of a geek LOL.
How about life? That’s a good gift too. And one you can’t put a pricetag on.
Then again, passing on her mantra to her kids, might prevent them from having more people who think like this idiot.
No. The point of Planned Parenthood is becoming a Mother’s Day honoree when one is ready. The distinction is clear.
What most of you don’t seem to get is that a majority of Americans are pro-choice. That’s an awful lot of mothers who believe in choice.
And making a donation to a cause that your parents believe in is a fitting present on Mothers or Fathers day.
Lgm. Seriously. go play in traffic. YOU have less brain activity than a tadpole.
And, let’s remember, PP also provides birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies and gynecological exams for women who can’t afford them. They provide important services for lower income women and families and for that they should be commended.
Their home page???? Out of curiousity… What is it exactly that you think they do in their clinics?
Rusty,
while your argument, on the face, seems correct, I have to disagree.
As far as “being ready”, that argument pales at times to the facts. How many women use it as a contraceptive? How many of them are participating in behavior that place them in that situation to begin with. If they weren’t ready, then maybe they should have thought about that before hand?
i’d have to see figures for what you think the majority is, but…I’ve always seen it construed as a tight split down the middle. So to back that up, i’m going to ask for the numbers, from a nonpartisan source.
And I disagree with your last statement. Making a donation to a cause YOU believe in, in their name, would be. If it were my parents, i’d keep the wallet closed for PH and do what i always do…make a donation to Make a Wish Foundation every Xmas.
Another long day for abortion posts, here we come…
Complete unadulterated arrogance!
lgm, i slapped that argument around last time. Go back, read it, and try again.
And its not that the manhole stays closed. I’ll just stop contradicting you, when you start being right.
Rusty, I have a close family member that worked there for 3 months and quit because they flat out HELD certain information from these mothers to be. She found the whole thing unconscionable….and good for her.
She witnessed PP pushing the “choice” above all other alternatives as well as not fully disclosing that removal of a fetus from the womb can actually make it more difficult for a woman to carry a child to full term should you wish to do so in the future.
In her words “Here’s your key chain, thanks for your patronage…let us know if we can help ya out again….NEXT!”.
Commended my arse.
Yes and this seems responsible to you…
I highly doubt this but what is your point?
Rusty said:
May I suggest something here - if “one” isn’t ready, maybe “one” could use some form of birth control (absentance possibly?)..or maybe give their baby up for adoption - oh no, they wouldn’t do that - they may get attached and it would be soooo hard to do for those “mothers” who aren’t ready…to be…mothers.
Such poor taste. How does this celebrate motherhood in anyone’s mind?
In related news, Senator Robert Byrd wants to wish everyone Happy Martin Luther King Day, Christopher Hitchens wants to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, and William Ayres wants to wish everyone a Happy Independence Day.
For them to use a day that celebrates Motherhood (yes, I intentionally capitalized that word) to raise money to terminate Motherhood is just grotesque.
They’ll have to explain to God one day why they thought it was appropriate.
My understanding is that the founder of planned parenthood, Margaret Sanger was a notorious racist and eugenists.
Here is an example of her views:
We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she said, “if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
I think the whole idea of Planned Parenthood was to keep the “lowlife” population down. It’s exactly like Adolf Hitler’s T4 program if you ask me.
Abstractmind,
It’s not a supermajority or anything. But it’s certainly a majority. Here are some polling numbers from various sources.
Good for PP. There is absolutely no evidence that abortions make it more difficult to carry a fetus to term. That’s another thing that someone somewhere invented out of thin air and is now treated as fact. Just like the fetal pain BS and the false breast cancer-abortion link.
I already linked to some recent polling. Anyways, my point is that there are literally millions of mothers who would appreciate a donation to PP on their behalf.
Lgm,
A 10 week old baby (”fetus” is the latin word for “baby”) is a human being. No amount of sophistry can change that.
This “personhood” crap is nothing more than an attempt to justify doing what you want to do.
If “personhood” or brain activity actually was a legitimate justification to kill, then we would have every right to execute you on the spot if you ever slip into a coma for any reason.
Rusty is correct. The number of Americans who are pro-choice has remained fairly consistent over the last 12 years at 55%. Pro-life around 40%. (link)
“At Planned Parenthood you can also get birth control without the consent or knowledge of your parents. So, if you are 14, 15 or 16 and you come to Planned Parenthood, we won’t tell your parents you’ve been there. We swear we won’t tell your parents.”
Planned Parenthood employee lecturing students of Ramona High School, Riverside, Calif., April 21-22, 1986
…and yet, idiots on your side want to condemn killing frogs and using them in science class.
You are a major idiot.
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Planned Parenthood - please. If a girl walks into PP, what do you think they are going to push?
Troll food:
Just like many liberals I know. Still, we don’t advocate killing them.
Rusty,
I think Planned Parenthood could at least use a more appropriate date, say something like the anniversary of Roe vs Wade? Using Mothers Day as a fundraising tool seems rather morbid. It is a day to celebrate mothers and all they do for their children. I find it hard to believe even pro-choicers view abortion as sacrifice and devotion to their children.
How many pro-life Americans have been aborted in those 12 years?
100%
TOS….
First the AMA, then some Astronomer…now a Polling point service to prove your point.
Seriously, dude. Take a seat!
Being in the majority doesn’t make it right, Rusty or TOS.
Abortion is wrong. A woman who has an abortion - or, more accurately, the culture that fosters abortion - does not glorify motherhood in anyway.
It reduces women and children to commoditites; sub-human devices.
Mothers are women like Michelle Duggar, who is expecting her 18th child on New Year’s Day. Mothers are supposed to give life and protect it - not take it away. Mostly for selfish reasons (93% of abortions are for ’social reasons’)…
I think I’ve made it pretty clear how I feel about abortion.
It’s wrong, evil, and unnecessary.
It’s hard to take people who do things “for the children” seriously when they have no qualms about a baby being ripped limb-from-limb, burned with saline, or having a scissors stuck in the back of his head.
It is to me. When a women is pregnant, she is at that moment a mother.
We can all be VERY thankful that PP was not around when Mary found out she was pregnant with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The worlds most important unplanned pregnancy.
How would this information be gleaned?
lgm said:
You must be talking about Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, and MOST liberals.
Other than contributions, what is PP’s chief source of revenue?
tre,
Bravo!
PP isn’t strapped for cash… this is an absurd request.
rusty,
thanks. just a cursory examination shows that some of those are in a statistical dead heat (49-46%, with a 3% margin of error).
this pole, taken another day or another place, could produce like results on the other side. looks too close to call. but the numbers you provided bear out your cause on this one.
I would take your last statement to task about “myth”. The Mayo Clinic doesnt seem to agree as much.
here’s the link from mayo. can be searched under “abortion” from the NIH website as well (which is where i got the link, btw)
http://www.mayoclinic.com/print/abortion/AN00633/METHOD=print
I will note that it says it is unlikely to happen. but saying its a myth and there’s no evidence, when one of the world leading medical institutions says it can happen(and by logical extention, does) doesnt work in this case to support your statement. It’s unlikely you’ll get struck by lightning, but it does in fact happen. the rate of occurance doesnt make it a myth to be struck…only that the % is low.
Rusty.
When you intervene to rip a baby from the womb prior to full term…this act is telling your body that it wasnt meant to be there in the first place.
This pattern has been proven to repeat itself through miscarriages in later years.
What does belief have to do with reality? From your point above, it was alright for white slave holders to own slaves, because they did not believe that these black slaves where human. In fact it was fine for them to kill these slaves also, since according to their beliefs they were not human.
Oklahoma just passed a law stating abortionist must provide for the viewing of a woman via ultra sound of their “fetus” prior to an abortion. In other words, those who choose abortion can (they are not forced) actually see thier baby before they kill it.
As if abortion didn’t exist back then. Of course it did. It wasn’t like sometime in the 20th Century someone realized, “Hey, I can get rid of this!”
EQ, eloquent as always. But I don’t think PP is going after your donations. They’re going after the millions upon million of mothers and children who support choice. These people don’t find this fundraising macabre.
Purely on a statistical basis probably obout 40% of the aborted fetuses might have been pro-life adults, however given the proclivity of sharing the beliefs of the household you were raised in 40% is being very generous.
Pardon me if I try to make a point using statistical facts rather than confounding fact with “belief” as you do. Check the sources used in the links I provide, I think you’ll find them to be fair.
An excellent, and well put, point. I thought of it as well, but you beat me to it!
Brain activity is now the measure of being living? That has to be the stupidest thing you have every said lgm.
Amoeba – living? Yes.
Frog - living? Yes.
Virus – living? Yes.
Fetus with millions of complex cells – living?
HELL YES!!!
Gawd you are such an idiot.
Founder of Planned Parenthood.
Rusty said:
Yeah and serial killers get a kick out of torture and murder..your point?
There will always be sick, twisted people.
I don’t use statistics…ya know why TOS. Garbage in Garbage out…ESPECIALLy with polls.
Think about it.
Michelle Duggar is expecting #18!? I love her and her family….they are wonderful and a reminder that children are a blessing from God.
The issue with abortion also has to do with our societies views on sex and marriage. Sex is now something that the media and some groups want us to believe is a casual, carefree act that we can do with anyone at anytime. Oops…get pregnant by the one night stand? OK - just go have an abortion!
Abortion is another way for a person to avoid responsibility for their actions.
I can’t link to any studies but I know I have read that many girls tend to regret the multiple partners they have had. So much for carefree sex.
And abortion is a heartwrenching choice some women make. Many are haunted by this choice for years. If it were no big deal, women would not feel guilty about it.
The truth is - deep down I think a lot of people realize abortion is wrong. And if they don’t - they are either heartless or lying to themselves.
This is the problem with the moral relativism of the leftists. They have no moral principals, so they invent opinions to justify their own warped beliefs. It is a mini step to go from aborting 3 month fetuses to killing a half born child to just killing them to after they are born. Since Life itself has no absolute value to them, they persist in cheapening it, till it becomes as meaningless as their own puny existance.
Abortion is utterly mind boggling when you think about it. We actually allow babies to be chopped up and sucked out of a tube when not needed…. and it happens thousands of times a day in the USA alone.
It’s now wrapped in the ‘choice’ of a woman, as if it’s a human right to allow the killing… as otherwise it’s ‘taking her right away to choose’
So, so sad…
Abstractmind, you have a point. But I don’t think it really applies to this situation. Abortion can cause long-term effects and even death. But that is incredibly rare. Furthermore, carrying the fetus to term is more likely to cause death or problems bearing children later on. It’s a general risk of pregnancy, not a general risk of abortion.
What feebiebabe appears to be saying is there is a proven link between abortions and miscarriages or birthing problems. This is 100% not true.
And that’s a great quote, Mister P. It’s a shame that a bunch of Sanger’s other quotes and beliefs aren’t so, uh, enlightened.
Soap…Morning.
Truly, are we that surprised?
Rusty - quit while your behind.
Really? I bet if you ask pro-choice persons if they had preferred to have been aborted, they would say “no” and I bet it would be close to 100%.
So, if these persons, who were killed with the vilest means imaginable, were allowed to live, you are saying 40% would choose death.
The correct answer is 100%
Now this is why I abandoned statistics in college and majored in math. Statistics has no relationship to reality.
100% not true? Really….how can you be 100% sure of anything?
So in absolutely NO CASE in the history of existance…did an abortion affect future pregnancies in a woman?
Hey, can I take you to Vegas?
WOW, I am going to agree with sausage twice in one day. This is a good thing!
By your logic, 100% of Americans are pro-life. How come polling numbers don’t reflect anything near that?
Yeah. If you believe in these stats that’s your choice. I think someone has already said it but it bears repeating. It doesn’t matter if there is a majority. It is still wrong.
Seriously, TOS…. Have you ever taken statistics?
Soap…good shot.
I believe i have a better one.
what’s alive and whats not? well, if you want to argue the science of life, lets scientifically define life itself?
And since liberals want to say things are not alive at conception or until after a certain trimester, lets make them eat their own words about life. This is the conventional and generally accepted definition of life, as listed below.
This might take a sec to read, apologies.
Science defines life as having the following characteristics. Emphasis on commentary:
Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, sweating to reduce temperature. The womb is a perfect example of a regulated environment for maintaining this state, which the baby exists in. As the child forms from a single cell, this process is internal in those cels as well, otherwise it would die.
Organization: Being composed of one or more cells, which are the basic units of life. This is not argued, that fetus’ start as a single cell. moving on.
Metabolism: Consumption of energy by converting nonliving material into cellular components (anabolism) and decomposing organic matter (catabolism). Living things require energy to maintain internal organization (homeostasis) and to produce the other phenomena associated with life. I believe this too, would be common sense in its application to this debate. Baby has to eat/consume something to grow. Moving on.
Growth: Maintenance of a higher rate of synthesis than catalysis. A growing organism increases in size in all of its parts, rather than simply accumulating matter. The particular species begins to multiply and expand as the evolution continues to flourish. Another obvious development of a fetus. moving on.
Adaptation: The ability to change over a period of time in response to the environment. This ability is fundamental to the process of evolution and is determined by the organism’s heredity as well as the composition of metabolized substances, and external factors present. As shown with the forming of a child’s fingers, for example. Mitocondria in the cells tell certain cells to die in the lump of flesh that comprises the hand, and thus fingers are formed (thats the generalization, its more complicated, but…). Moving on.
Response to stimuli: A response can take many forms, from the contraction of a unicellular organism when touched to complex reactions involving all the senses of higher animals. A response is often expressed by motion, for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun or an animal chasing its prey. As children grow, they too begin to move, kick, etc. When my ex was pregnant with our children, pushing on one side of her stomach solicited a response. Commmon occurance, as anyone with children can attest to. Next!
Reproduction: The ability to produce new organisms. Reproduction can be the division of one cell to form two new cells. Usually the term is applied to the production of a new individual (either asexually, from a single parent organism, or sexually, from at least two differing parent organisms), although strictly speaking it also describes the production of new cells in the process of growth. This is a normal process. One cell splits or grows, forms another, etc. Basic function of human cellular structure.
That is the scientific defintion. It’s not without debate in the scientific community, like most everything else, but its the best, working model they have.
Have at it
Sausage,
You are absolutely correct. I couldn’t agree with you more.
You are right, and those 60 percent who accept it are in tragic denial. It is why I dismiss all discussion about the US being a compassionate country. It ALWAYS boils down politically to MIGHT makes RIGHT. That infant has no might, therefore it has no right, as far as the politicians go.
“The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order,” Sanger
Hey, do your own freakin poll and see if I am right. Ask everyone you run into if they would have preferred to have been aborted. 100% no.
If you could go and ask these babies who were killed if they would have preferred to have lived, I would bet the answer would be yes 100%.
I am taking the poll. How many here would have preferred to have been aborted? Any? Speak up.
wow, alot of posts
On May 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, Mister P said:
yesterday, *I* was a moral relavist, apparently. not so much, i dont think.. this is a clear right and wrong situation.
And rusty,
There is death, for certain. And the effects as well. agreed. but what is really 100% sure in this case? yes, pregnancy has its own caveats…but abortion has a 100% death rate when performed properly. It is what it is, as I say.
Sausage and I agree again? I might need a beer after work for this…good post, glad to see we agree on some things.
And TOS, just as a slight jab, i’m 100% pro life. I like living. Lots of people like living. Not giving someone else that choice or opportunity, however, poses a problem with me.
#88 - Nice one Soap.
Soap.
I kinda like life. 1%
Soap - can we vote for someone other than ourselves?
You are leaving out the women who die from abortion so would it be over 100% effective?
Over 50% of participants in abortion - die.
ROFL
Do you suppose if babies had the “right ot choose” would they kill their mothers?
sorry soap..the other long post took a minute, was focused there.
Isn’t it Planned Non-Parenthood??
Are you a “mother” if you kill you unborn baby? Or are you an Ex-mother?
Great post BTW!
9 of the 10 girls in this link were a product of rape. How many should have been put to death? How many deserve to live? (the one exception is my wife!)
A woman held a sign that read “I regret my abortion”.
As others have pointed out, abortions are used (roughly) 93% of the time for “social reasons”. Aka after-the-fact birth control. PP has no interest in making abortion “rare” as they claim. For them to ask for money on Mother’s Day, the day we celebrate our Mother for giving birth to us and raising us, is not only hypocritical it is flat out morbid and vile.
Very well put, sausage.
Then why educate girls and women and distribute birth control? Why would they do that if they want nothing more than to perform abortions?
Lighten up on these “Moms’” Killing their children is their right,.
Because if they didn’t, they would be fully exposed for the monsters they are. Putting on a mask of humanity to cover up barbarity is not a new concept.
Oh goodie, Rusty Forceps has weighed in, favoring the baby killers.
Grizzly, it’s about the money. Just keep on sending the money and Planned Parenthood can pay it’s executives or is that it’s executioners.
Planned Parenthood is neither about planning nor parenthood. It’s better name would be THE DEATH HUT.
Rusty, this may have been the most absolute STUPIDEST thing I have ever seen you post…
EVERY SUCCESSFUL ABORTION RESULTS IN A DEATH!
Just a few #s of women who have had an abortion:
44% of women complained of nervous responses
36% of women complained of sleep disturbances
21% regret their decision of getting an abortion
11% have been prescribed psychotropic medicine by a doctor.
19% have suffered from post traumatic stress
8% have attempted suicide.
source: http://www.jimandellen.org/gmuhome/abortion.html
I personally know women who have spoken about their regrets to abort. With Christ’s love and support of family and friends, many are beginning to heal. Those w/out support need our prayers this Mother’s Day!
/sarc on
But those numbers arent a majority.
/sarc off
RWM, if I wrote a pro-choice term paper with PP as a source, something tells me you wouldn’t pay it any mind.
I’ll do the same for a term paper that uses “Baptists for Life” as a legitimate source.
Rusty and TOS — Nice that the first poll on the page you linked sort-of proved your point. Now, page down. Some of the polls prove exactly the opposite of what you are trying to assert. (Careful where you point that thing!)
I totally agree with the premise of this post that soliciting money on Mother’s Day for an organization whose sole purpose is to prevent the state of motherhood is like something out of BizarroWorld. As long as abortion remains legal in the good old USofA, I would love to know how we prevent taxpayer dollars from paying for abortions. I’m tired of paying for other people’s poor choices!!
The previously mentioned stats - These #s are on women who sought help. I shutter to think how many suffer / die in silence.
Wasn’t there a recent European woman who killed herself after aborting her twins? Where was PP and there post-procedure support? Newsflash- there is NONE!!!
My roommate in college sought this help and was given pills to dry up her milk ducts. How compassionate!
rightwingmom,
Yes, there was. Her name is Emma Beck.
And let us not forget Planned Parenthood taking private donations that were explicitly for the termination of Black babies.
Not to mention their covering up of of child abuse and rape.
Fabulous organization!
Don’t punish Jesus Obama’s daughters with a baby.
Send PP a check.
Good stats. Hopefully PP shares that information with someone who is contemplating abortion.
But I would also like to see the stats for women who opted for childbirth. About 50%-75% of new mothers experience the “baby blues” after delivery. About 10% of these women will develop a more severe and longer-lasting depression after delivery.
Good stats. Hopefully PP shares that information with someone who is contemplating abortion.
But I would also like to see the stats for women who opted for childbirth. About 50%-75% of new mothers experience the “baby blues” after delivery. About 10% of these women will develop a more severe and longer-lasting depression after delivery.
Rusty. I respect your right to believe what you want - even killing babies as a good service for women. This gives me pause.
In order to receive gooberment money, they have to play along. That is simple enough for lgm to understand.
Oh, lest we forget, men suffer too. In this world of “choice”, fathers have NONE. Do you suppose they are harmed?
Dear me, some women get “the blues” after having offspring. That really troubles me. But it doesn’t justify stabbing babies in the head with Rusty Forceps.
Rusty,
Abortion can cause long-term effects and
evenalways death. There—fixed it for you!! You’re welcome!!If you look at your poll postings, only about 20% believe that abortion should have no restrictions. By inferral, 80% of those polled believe there should be greater restrictions on abortions.
Only 1/3 of people polled think abortion should be legal if the pregnancy is accidental (aboortion as a form of birth control). However, 98% of abortions are “personal chioce”. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html#5
In short, a small minority think abortion should be readily available without restriction. An overwhelming majority think there should be at least some valid reason (rape, incest, health/life of mother) in order for someone to obtain an abortion. Over 60% (Rusty’s poll) of people believe that 98% of abortions (my link) should not be performed.
Americans believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, Rusty. It’s hard to realize those ideals when you’ve been tossed in a garbage can by your mother…
Rusty,
I would hope that you would use both sources to write your informed paper.
I’ve actually sat in a Wichita clinic and witnessed 3rd trimester “girls” being escorted to the basement for their 4 day procedure. I was there for my roommate’s post-procedure exam. At the time, she told me she’d been date raped. Only later did she confess to multiple partners. I’ve been for ALL babies ever since!!!
One more thing - The caring PP staff told her it was a boy. I thought it was only a lump of cells.
I’ve seen both worlds. I choose the “Baptist” with full knowledge and understanding!
Which is why you are a CINO.
If you had actually look at the source of her quotes more carefully you would have seen this (1) in the brackets by it. If you had scrolled down to the sources and found the (1) it would have read:
If you had then gone to the website of the author and clicked on “Who is Elliot” you would have gotten this:
But you keep spewing your garbage CINO, it makes for entertaining reading.
#124 - garbage in garbage out.
statistics are worthless….not to mention completely irrelevant when we are talking about these little lives.
Overall, among all adults, 53% believe that abortion is morally wrong most of the time. Thirty-two percent (32%) disagree. Those numbers have changed little over the past year and there is virtually no difference of opinion between men and women.
Rasmussen Reports April 23, 2007
Abortion devalues life - plain and simple.
I know feebie, I am in your court on this one. I just occasionally stoop to their level and use their methods against them.
I’d say 100% of mothers (and fathers) suffer sleep loss, fatigue and a good bit of financial sacrifice when they have children. But this is something that one has to accept for the privilige of being a parent (or opting for childbirth as you put it) It isn’t like buying a pet!
alaskangrizzly - thanks
#127 - I understand… I was “100%” with ya on that one!!!
I am out guys..
Happy Mothers Day to all our Mothers Here…And Ms. Michelle!
On May 9th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, On-my-soap-box said:
Oh, lest we forget, men suffer too. In this world of “choice”, fathers have NONE. Do you suppose they are harmed?
Very good point, Soap. I have a picture of my two children on my work station, here. I’m so glad my wife and I are being “punished” with them.
Gotta go, by kids need me.
Michelle - Happy Mother’s Day!
Are you saying that abortion should only be legal up to 10 weeks?
Are you also saying that it’s OK to kill anything that is soulless and has less brain activity than a frog? How nice. It’s now open season on Liberals!
It most certainly does. You have no idea.
I’m usually quiet about lgm. Personally, I like having his opinions, which adds some “flavor” to the subjects. But, I have to say something about his comment. When we start classifying human beings based on the size of their brain or ability to “think”, then we are moving down the road of National Socialism and Communism. We are heading back to the “Dark Ages”. Oh, I understand his point completely. When Roe vs Wade came out, I was 100% for it. Over time, though, and thinking about it, my morals and values kept conflicting with the idea. The death of any human is sad. And, when it is done deliberately, for social purposes, doubly sad. Yes, all humans have a soul. It is the essence of our being. It is what makes me…me, and you…you. We don’t understand it yet because our science hasn’t progessed that far, but it is still there. The soul is the basis of faith. For only in faith can we attempt to understand the dimension that the soul resides. As of now, we have 4 dimensions; yet, the soul resides in another. What is it? We don’t know…faith. The aborted baby has a soul. Does it feel pain on abortion? Probably, and where are the extremists complaining of animal and even plant pain? So we now judge humans on “higher consciousness” and “brain activity”. I, for one, can’t assume something that scientifically isn’t proven. I can say, with confidence, that the soul has a consciousness that may take decades/centuries to fully understand. At any rate, Happy Mothers’ Day to the Moms here…especially you, Michelle.
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