McCain-Huckabee: The GOP immigration drag queen ticket
Huckabee for VP? That’s the buzz.
It’s the GOP immigration drag queen ticket!
La Raza/The Race gives it two thumbs up.
Read and weep:
Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and defeated contender for the GOP presidential nomination, is currently at the top of John McCain’s short list for a running mate. At least that’s the word from a top McCain fundraiser and longtime Republican moneyman who has spoken to McCain’s inner circle.
All they need is sanctuary-friendly Rudy Giuliani as DHS Secretary, and the open-borders dream nightmare team will be complete.
Can someone please fast-forward to 2012? Please.
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Henryinga, you are more correct than you could possibly know.
We’ve been told for 6-7 years that we need to have OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE US, and agree with us, by virtue of US, doing what OTHER COUNTRIES WANT.
We didn’t become the GREAT GREAT NATION that we are, by sucking up to OTHER COUNTRIES.
Libs don’t get that. Libs want to be LIKED. Libs believe that to be STRONG is to be MEAN/WRONG/and IMPERIAL.
Libs want KUMBAYA.
Kumbaya didn’t bring down the BERLIN WALL and IRON CURTAIN.
Libs will never get it, because they have no ideas nor ideals. They have CONSTITUENCIES and TAXES.
hmmm looks like its time to get bitter and start clinging to guns and religion folks.
Heh. We actually became so great by pissing off a fair amount of the rest of the world, IIRC.
Just because we have 20+ million illegal aliens in the country, I don’t why you are so excited. Sure some are narcotrafficantes and others are serial sex offenders, but most are hard working idividuals who just want to send money home to the wife and kids. //sarc off
#101 - Reagan got it… Other countries respected Reagan (far more than Libs would choose to admit).
These guys need to grow some beans and act like “men”. No one respects leaders who cower in corners like a buncha panty wastes (ahemm…Carter).
Reagan never backed down an inch and stuck by his words. A real gentleman that guy was too.
OT: Still love that reel where he came out to greet Gorbie without a coat in sub zero temps at the white house…STRENGTH! What a John Wayne move that was. LOL.
damn I miss him!
“Reagan never backed down an inch”
except when he left lebanon in ‘83 …
and granted amnesty in ‘86 …
/disclosure — i greatly admire RWR, and am proud to have come of age during his presidency — watching him helped shaped my political leanings. But I continue to be ASTOUNDED that all his sins get whitewashed by most of the right side of the ’sphere — and current candidates are thus held to an impossible [and false] standard …
“candidates held to an impossibly high (and false) standard
RE: post #106
That’s because we learn from hindsight and analyze the result good or bad:
What was the effect in the middle-east of once deciding to go to Lebanon in ‘82 and then leaving in ‘83-not long after the Marine Barracks were truck-bombed there? More acts of terror against Reagan and later Clinton in somalia leading to the Islamofascist epiphany of 9/11-we haven’t left Iraq, but we are attempting to fight this war on the cheap and PC (granted that is my opinion only).
Amnnesty with promise of border security under REagan 1986 and NAFTA 1993 under Bush I/Clinton:…neither of these programs did anything to curb illegal immigration leaving us with result social, cultural, and economic problems alluded to increasingly in the media.
These ideas were performed by one politician or another, and this is what resulted either by policies’ action or impotence.
So I for one ask, do we want to repeat these above actions again (?) I say no.
And this analysis of history -which is rsearchable- creates the “..standards” you bring up.
Hey there Christian soldier, I hope you enjoy the Free eBooks.
Just because he’s been loyal is not a reason to make him the VP choice. Michael Steele or Bobby Jindal for VP!
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
throw the election
you don’t really want the job
give it to the socialists
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USpace
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“do we want to repeat these above actions again (?) I say no.”
then i would suggest not putting b.o. in office …
Someone said that maybe McCain doesn’t want it…0h, he wants it, and does look very buddy buddy with Huck and Huck looks real comfortable hanging out with him. Darn scary. We are so screwed. Tancredo and Hunter were great choices, but no, out of nowhere McCain who was low man on the totem pole makes it to the top. Romney looked good and still does, but he’ll never get it, McCain doesn’t like him and the mighty Evangelicals can’t handle a mormon, which makes them morons. So if you don’t vote, write someone in, who do you have? Obama? Great deal we have going for us. How did things get this screwed up anyway? With McCain and Huck, we have 2 Rhinos. It’s a nightmare, that I wish was over.
# 110 CRU
um, JSM has been buddy-buddy with Mitt, Fred, and several others over the past couple months since the race ended — i think yer reading a bit too much into this — JSM does not need nor will he declare his veep pick until well into summer –
RE:110
In which case McCain would have to pick a conservative that few can argue with, and throw Juan Hernandez under the bus.
That is a dream at this point.
This would be the “kill” blow to the Republican Party and the principles of Reagan.
He was all Calphalon baby!
All presidents have their poor decisions (albiet some worse than others) but that is MM QB’g.
I believe he did far more good in his presidency then had been done in (arguably) decades.
Point was, if any of these candidates had half his charachter…well, need I say more.
YEA! FOR MICHELLE!
Michelle, your readers KNOW who has credibility around here - and YOU are definitely the one we come here to hear from.
You go, Girl!
Why is it unfortunate when good men refuse the company of evil jack#$$es????
It was some of George Washington’s BEST ADVICE.
And we’d all have been better off if MOST Americans had had the sense to have stuck to it.
So how are the kinds of judges who believe waterboarding is Torture, who think that McCain Feingold Thompson and McCain Kennedy Shamesty are brilliant law, and that Roe V Wade is settled because it is 30 years old, and that GITMO prisoners deserve an ACLU-APPROVED civilian trial on USA Soil - that SOMEONE has to answer for the TORTURE at ABU GHRAIB… how is that going to help your son????????????????
My nephew came home from Iraq with Silver Spurs and does NOT see that as a mandate to vote for McNasty. He says the proudest thing in his entire life is helping the Iraqis with their first FREE Election, post Saddam!
And he doesn’t equate THAT with a vote for PUNK McNASTY.
That would be a very silly thing to tell McNasty, when someone in ARIZONA likes to put 37 VOTING CARDS APIECE in the POCKETS of ILLEGAL ALIENS - old news story, predates 2004 Elections. Plus, we all watched Toady Chappaquiddick Kennedy SIGNING THEM UP just less than TWO YEARS AGO at all the ILLEGAL ALIEN FLAG-BURNING RALLIES to burn USA FLAGS on AMERICAN SOIL!
RIGHT ON LIVE NATION TV COVERAGE, if you would be so kind to REMEMBER.
You’ve been caught sleeping. Rush reported that the 51% tipping point was hit shortly at the beginning of the Clinton’s SECOND TERM - mid ’90’s.
Wasn’t all SALARY - but between pensions, salaries, grants, slush funds, illegal aliens with 20 Social Security numbers each and are already back in their homelands collecting retirement checks, entitlements…
You have been caught sleeping.
ah, 0300, time for this blog’s version of michelle obama to show up …
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I haven’t seen you cite any reasons to vote for McNasty, either.
# 121
well, then you haven’t been reading many of the JSM-related threads for the last 2 weeks …
That seems to be all a McNasty voter is good for - cracks like THAT!
I’ll give it all the consideration that it is due.
# 123
ah, no, sweetie, JSM voters are the ones who will prevent the country from falling into the hands of hillbama ..
/you’re welcome …
McCain = Social Conservative - Roe V Wade is SETTLED LAW to him because it is 30 yrs old, GLOBAL WARMING, will have GOVT FINANCING Embryonic Stem Cell research, Waterboarding is TORTURE, GITMO TERRORISTS should have ACLU-APPROVED CIVILIAN TRIALS on AMERICAN SOIL, backs Johnny Sutton prosecution of Border Patrolmen doing their jobs and defending themselves????????????????????????????
Buckaroo must be the new DICTIONARY EDITOR for McCAIN, the one who suggested putting McCAIN’S PHOTO next to the word “Conservative” - as in “the epitome of”.
No thanks! Who’s the Carrot - Who’s the STICK!
Right now, McCain makes hillbama look like the CARROT.
You need some ENTICEMENT. You failed miserably.
# 125
don’t you dare put words into my mouth — The FACT is JSM holds many socially conservative positions. I’ve never said he is the “epiotme” of a conservative. Folks here hate him because of his position on immigration ['course you hate him for a whole host of irrational reasons as well, but that's beside the point], which is an ECONOMIC issue, not a social one.
I’ve spent too many decades watching children grow up addicted to grass and other “mild” drugs, that “wasn’t hurting anybody else”.
Bob Barr is too old to be trying to sell that to a nation he portends to care about - he is flushed down the toilet by his own hand.
If Huckabee is the VP candidate, I am going to vote for Bob Barr.
If anyone but Pawlenty, Jindal, Thompson, or Sanford are the nominees, I will vote for Bob Barr.
Huckabee is a waste of space. He may be Christian, but that doesn’t mean I need to love his populist posterior.
McCain has almost lost my vote as it is with all his “global warming” pandering, if he puts Huckabee on the ticket, I have no idea who I will vote for, but I guarantee it WON’T be them.
And this pains me because I’m probably the last conservative in America who would abandon the Republican ticket.
Let the Democrats win, at least that way, when the Democrat congress sends the economy into the toilet, when even more jobs flee America, when energy prices skyrocket even more (all of which are guaranteed to happen) then at least Democrats will get the blame for it. If a Republican were in the White House, they would be blamed and Dems would pick up even more seats in congress.
And sorry Michelle, I can’t tell you how much I wish Rudy were our nominee. His 12 point plan was exactly the conservative agenda we have been begging for.
Hucky doesn’t qualify as a Conservative Runnng Mate (CRM ™) so if he were McCan’ts pick, it would make no difference to me as a Conservative Independent. RINOs making more RINOs…
The conservative base = blacks for democrats.
Being taken for granted. Nuff said.
Given the fact that democratic voter registrations are way up due to Obama’s inspiring the dem base in the primaries, plus the massive disapproval rating of G.W. Bush makes me think that all of the McCain conversations are moot. I’ll be voting to influence downticket issues and candidates.
So…if he’s not with us on immigration, and he’s all for the global warming myth, and he’s turning a blind eye to the SPP/AU issue (if he’s not helping), his assistance in the subprime bailout, his negative vote on the lobbying and donations regulations, and the list goes on and on…So what exactly is he going to do for me, as a citizen and as a voter that i’ll agree with?
So…if he’s not with us on immigration, and he’s all for the global warming myth, and he’s turning a blind eye to the SPP/AU issue (if he’s not helping), his assistance in the subprime bailout, his negative vote on the lobbying and donations regulations, and the list goes on and on…So what exactly is he going to do for me, as a citizen and as a voter that i’ll agree with?
McCain looks like he’s trying to pander to the so-called middle of the political spectrum. That rates right up there with repealing the federal gas tax for the summer.
Whew!!
Sounds to me like Buckaroo has drank deep of the McCain Cool-Aid.
I just threw up into my mouth. I think I’ll be voting write-in this year for president!
Looks like he thinks he could elect McCain all by himself, alone, don’t he! hehehehe
Yeah, I don’t think I’ve seen voting rights for ILLEGALS, and slave Reparations for Illegals, on too many Conservative Platforms, in my life.
Looks like McCain must be thinking right about WINNING if Malkin is mad.
Michelle “MDS Moonbat” Malkin scores again.
In the tank for Dems, I take it.
[sigh]
That would really make up my mind - I’ll sit on my hands this election or vote for the Libertarian Party. I’m disgusted with McCain more and more every day.
I hope Ron Paul raises hell at the Republican convention.
First the Democrats abandoned me for illegal immigrants and poor people[who are poor by choice] and now the Republicans have become dems lite. What is a conservative supposed to do???
I’m starting to think McCain is doing this on purpose. I think he blames conservatives for his loss in the 2000 GOP primaries, and now he’s doing all he can to poke us in the eye, so to speak, while courting the votes of liberals and Dem-leading independents. I wish he had run on the Kerry ticket, like he wanted…then I’d possibly have a GOP nominee I can support, and he would’ve stopped pretending he’s anything more than a RINO.
I left the Libertarian Party after 9/11 due to their disgusting response to it. I just checked out the Constitution Party’s platform at their site. No thanks. They sound too much like christian fundamentalists to me. They are selective in what freedoms they are for. I don’t like any sort of religious fundamentalist.
I’ve checked out their parties too. I agree with your assessment.
Question is, where do you go? I’ve been asking myself that lately.
I love how McCain people expect everyone to fall in line and support whomever has the big “R” next to their name. Just be “good little soldiers”, they say, and then add that we must want Obama to be President then, for good measure. What message would it send to the RNC if conservatives just ignored their principles and supported McCain in droves? They’d have no reason then to even pay attention to this voting bloc and would instead continue to support RINOS…after all, we’ll support them anyway, so why does it matter if they sound like a Dem most of the time?
YAAAAY !!!
Then, it follows, everything his unnamed, “moneyman” says, MUST be true.
heh,heh,heh
“I’ll take Fourth Estate Journalism for $10, Alex.”
Abstractmind said:
I really wish I knew. I am mostly conservative. However, I strike out with them on abortion. I think it should be legal and no government has the right to tell someone what they can or cannot do with their body, including terminating a pregnancy. (Though I do agree government has no duty to pay for abortions.)
I am not religious. (Lapsed catholic thing.) I do not trust people who bring God into their political arguments. Freedom is not dependent on ANY religion.
There isn’t a party out there for me.
I used to hear the same thing from the evangelicals, accusing me of not being a real conservative because I don’t believe in using the rule of law to force my beliefs on others. Funny how these bible-thumpers ran off after the first big spending, big government, populist baptist that came along.
Buckaroo is saying the same thing I have. If you “vote your conscience” or abstain, you might just as well cast a vote for Obama. McCain is no true conservative, but he makes Obama look like Karl Marx by comaprison. If you’re a big Ruth Bader Ginsburg fan, then just stay home or vote for a nut like Barr because you can count on one or two additional liberal activist Supreme Court justices under Obama.
Sniping at Buckaroo isn’t going to give us a better Republican nominee. You’ve got to play the cards you’re dealt. There are enough crazies to the left of us that we don’t need any infighting.
Promising to vote for some fringe candidate that won’t even get a full percentage point in the general election does nothing more than assure us that Cynthia McKinney’s vote count will have a counterbalance.
I believe you and I are in the same boat, my friend. I disagree on the abortion thing (except in life of mother, rape, etc…), but….thats another discussion.
I want to vote conservative. I -usually- agree with them. But there really arent any left running at this point.
Maybe we should just start a new party lol. And not be the same as the loony Nader/Paul crowd.
Send a letter to the RNC stating how you feel and change your voter registration to Independent or “No Party Affiliation”. When they see the voter rolls dropping and get enough letters, they’ll get the message.
Oh, and don’t send a penny to them or their candidate. McCain might end up with my vote, but not a penny of my money.
Huckabee is a disgrace. He ran around calling himself the Christian candidate, yet his campaign behaved the most shamefully of all of them. If he gets the VP nod, I will NOT be voting for McCain.
Wow, maybe we should make those drugs illegal so that won’t happen. Oh wait…there were illegal and that happened anyway.
Buckaroo’s right…You didn’t do your homework…And, you never justified your use of an unnamed source.
If we’ve learned ANYTHING from blogs, including yours, it’s to look at unnamed sources with scepticism.
In Virginia you don’t register with a party, though certainly I’m on their lists as a GOP voter. I think they’re counting on distaste for Obama to force conservatives into a vote for McCain…that’s the best argument McCain has, in my opinion, but it isn’t enough. At the same time I’m voting AGAINST the other candidates I’m voting FOR a certain one, and its the latter part that I have a real problem with. I think John Kerry tried the “a vote for me is a vote against Bush” strategy, and looked how that turned out.
And, as far as sending them money, no worries there. I donated to George Allen’s Senate reelection campaign, but nothing since, and the GOP’s current course suggests that won’t change anytime soon.
WOuldn’t surprise me…
Neither one gives a rats A$$ about American Citizens, and both have been bought off and are owned by the Mexican Govt.
Our whole Gov’t with the exception of a handful, are “Gov’t Officials of Foreign Countries, by proxy.”
Abtractmind - It’s fun imagining what sort of political party one could form. I would have one where I can have the title “Supreme Overlord of All The Known Universe” but my wife already has that title.
Please BACK TO THE FUTURE 2012… Let’s see if the REPUBLICANS can win BACK the WHITE HOUSE???
Hahahaha, roger that!
Though the term “Overlord” does sound appealing.
how about the AbstractRohan party? Think anyone would join other than us? *snicker*
Abstractmind - I think it would be a VERY small party!
you’re right, unfortunately
but methinks it would be better than whats there now. and thats sad
Too many people here are willing to vote McCain and roll over and die …This country will be finished and yet those here unwilling to rally in defense of the nation. Because if you didn’t know this already-once those borders are open it is game -set -match -we are finished. It’s a good thing this group wasn’t around during the revolutionary or civil wars or we would have lost the country a lot sooner. As it is now the sheeple will follow orders and vote McCain regardless of his traitorous . treasonous, back stabbing tendencies. Makes me ill.
McCain’s doing everything imaginable to elect Obama and alienate conservatives. I think that we should give him his wish and send his dumb arse back to the Senate. With Barr in the race and conservatives against McCain, it looks like a Democrat will win this year.
I heard Bobby Jindal speak on radio this morning. WOW! There is hope for conservatives. We need that guy in the race in 2012.
“Too many people here are willing to vote McCain and roll over and die …This country will be finished”
see, there’s a reason we call foolish & false statements like that “hysterics” …
Personally, I don’t give a damn for ~any~ of your religious sects ( although I have lived for many decades as a respectful non-believer happy to be part of a Christian culture and perfectly comfortable with its symbolic presence in the public square. That is to say, I ~love~ Christmas, Bach, and don’t mind a few crosses here and there). But lately — this campaign season especially — it has become impossible for me to hold my tongue.
As far as I am concerned, the squabbling among the various Christian cults (evangelicals, Catholics, Mormons) is absurd. As an atheist, I have been able to give them all polite respect, but the bigotry among them is drawing out from me something approaching spitting contempt for the whole lot of them.
Evangelicals are morons, except the ones who are in it to fill their pockets, which is quite a few. And they go all bigoted on a Mormon candidate, because they believe that ~he~ is the one with silly and dangerous beliefs. Please.
I am sick to death of the Catholic church USA, most of whose clergy appears to be either pederasts, pederast enablers, and/or radical leftists driving a political doctrine under cloak of religion. And I can not even begin to review the sins and hypocrisies — ancient and modern — of the Vatican. The Pope seems like a nice man. Too bad that he heads a world-wide cult that can’t keep its nose out of politics, LIKE U.S. IMMIGRATION POLICY, among many other issues.
And now this Luigi dude wants to start a club of Catholic bigots against Protestants, to add to the manifold sins of the “holy Roman church.” Well, I hope he can fit one atheist onto his hate list, because I am one hundred percent for busting down the doors of sanctimonious, lawless priests, sheltering illegals. (They probably are enjoying the illegal children, especially.) I have despised the Deliverance-lite Huckabee and his whole family of goobers. But if he wants to raid the Catholic churches that are harboring illegals, well, I may have to give him a second look.
The Joseph Smith tale is, I admit, pretty ridiculous. But I will say this for the Mormons: They seem to have almost the only faith community that is able to hold together most of their flock around a set of traditional and family values that I can respect.
And, for the record, I am not too crazy about the role Jews have played in American politics.
All your religions are a huge, smelly pantload.
It was obvious that Huckabutt was running for the VP spot in the primaries. He trashed Romney and walked on egg shells for McAmnesty.
P.S. To my rant at #169: Just kidding about giving the God-barking carny Mike Hucksterbee a second look. No way, now how. But it doesn’t matter…I wouldn’t vote for a ticket headed by McInsane if Ronald Reagan was his running mate. Or Barry Goldwater. Or William F. Buckley. Milton Friedman. Edmund Burke. Etc.
People wonder (well, trolls wonder anyway) how the Dems slid so far left, and how the right moved so far left.
It happened because people just keep voting for their beloved ‘R’ or ‘D’ in spite of that person being oh-so-wrong for the job.
Congrats to Buckie and Frankie to helping the ‘Rs’ along the path to becoming a socialist party.
That’s how parties morf away from what they were in their glory days.
OK, so deal with someone who ISNT giving hysterics. i’m STILL waiting for an intelligent reply to post #135 I made, from a McCain supporter.
If you can break away from the hysterics, that is.
I wont win friends here with this either, but I agree as well. I must say, well said.
BTW, me and Rohan are making a new party…you’re invited
Joy,
It’s not about voting the party, it’s about voting for the most conservative. Dems can count on certain demographics to vote for them so they don’t expend much effort courting them. This is the same with McCain. He knows that no self-respecting conservative can allow Obama into office, so he figures he’s got our vote all wrapped up. In my case, he’s right. But that doesn’t mean I approve of the direction the party is headed.
Your suggestion to switch affiliation on the voter’s registration was brilliant. This combined with cutting off the flow of money will get the message across. Meanwhile, focus on supporting conservatives in Congress, because if the Dems get both the Presidency and Congress, we might not have a country to take back in four years.
Thank you, abstractmind. I will be watching out for posts from you and Rohan. Heck, if we can’t have a party that achieves anything politically, let’s at least have a party where thoughtful people can talk intelligently to one another!
I’m no McCain supporter, but I’d be willing to bet you’ll be more pleased with his Supreme Court choices than with Obama’s. Given the DC gun ban, emminent domain, Roe v Wade, do you really want to take that chance?
Same
It’d be nice to have that kind of party one day…but…well, pipedreams die hard i guess.
CC..
I don’t disagree with you as far as the SCOTUS part. And most likely (i’m saying that with reservation) he wouldnt make bad choices in those cases.
But its a trade-off. He’s giving us a couple of judges on the right hand, and giving the rest of the farm away with his left (and notice the choices and the hands they’re in *grin*)
I’m not convinced, by what i’ve seen so far, that its worth it.
I’m willing to listen to good discussion on this if someone cares to try. I just find it harder everyday to vote for McCain at all.
Keep his hands out of your pocketbook…Whereas, Liberals promise to dip into it.
I appreciate the post, but seriously….one sentence drive-by answers aren’t going to suffice for this one.
Yes, libs will attack the pocketbook everytime.
McCain however and his fiscal views in regards to global warming, are going to reach just as far inside. The only good fiscal policy on his website i’ve seen is lowering the taxes on corporate entities (which has the effect of allowing companies to lower prices on goods and services as a result, to stay competetive).
If you really want to discuss this, you’re going to have to be more convincing.
CC - I really do understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t think McCain will choose conservative judges, because they would undo McCain-Feingold. Not to mention, what is to stop the Dems from their stupid filibusters this time?
I understand what you’re saying, but I respectfully disagree where voting for McCain is concerned. I truly believe he could accomplish far more damage than an Obama presidency. The Rs will fight Obama tooth and nail. They’ll roll over and play dead for McCain. Maybe we’ll get to see the Rs filibustering this time around. After what the Dems have done, they won’t be so accomodating.
There just are no easy answers right now. My mind isn’t a closed trap and I’m always open to change my mind if I truly see a good reason for doing so. Right now I don’t see it.
BTW - Eminent domain is on our Primary ballot for June 3rd. I’ll be voting for both propositions (which limit government authority and aquisition).
Being the socialist state this is (CA) they just had to include in one of them that it would cause ‘increased cost to many governments’ to try to influence folks to vote against it. We’ll see how this goes.
A bad president is far better than a bad king, BUT…a good king is far better than a good president. (Except they should be elected every 4 years and don’t get to take any cash when they leave). Yeah, I am running for KING! Don’t freak - the first thing I do is TOTAL border control. I’m gonna do a MOAT with crocodiles just for emphasis and theatricality. Then DEATH PENALTY for corrupt public officials. Then beheadings for “embezzling” from the nation wealth. All those things the two partys, media, congress, the House & the courts just WON’T GET DONE. Sorry, but that’s what it’d take.
If you were serious, i’d vote for you.
Need a running mate? LOL
Making the tax-cuts permanent…Eliminating, or at least moving the cap upwards, on the AMT.
Whereas, Liberals have promised a roll-back (tax increase) and higher tax on Capital Gains.
Liberals’ only ideas are, sucking the life from the private sector for their social agenda.
If I’m interpreting “cap n’ trade” correctly, it’ll have very little effect on the consumer…In fact, it may even be a benefit.
Can anyone argue, LESS CO2 is harmful?
I don’t think so…Not any more than it could be argued, MORE is harmful.
And, if it costs you, the consumer, nothing, the issue is moot.
And this thinking is exactly why this horrible self serving 2 party system has not been broken. Until enough people stop voting lesser of 2 evils because “you’ll waste your vote” nonsense, we will continue with BAU.
For the McCain supporters who are selling SCOTUS picks as a reason to vote for McCain…don’t forget that the Senate is controlled by the Dimocrats. If McCain is President, he will have to appoint a moderate/liberal justice to get approval. That’s probably the type he’d nominate anyway. The gang of 14 will drop McCain like a bad habit. The probability of another Roberts or Alito in the next four years are bleak.
Frank,
I cant really with everything. Should the permanent tax cut and the gains tax issue be true (i’d rather have proof, but if i take you at your word for now, thats fine), thats fine.
Cap and Trade, however, is not a benefit for everyone. I would direct you to something Rush Limbaugh has out on this:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_051208/content/01125107.guest.html
The cap and trade system (other than being based on what is at worst a complete fraud, and at best with current science is unproven)…works like this:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/capandtrade101.html
Notice it says an 80% reduction. Do the math. You wouldnt be able to run anything in your home at that point. This is the cap and trade thats being kicked around. Not wanting that. You couldnt keep your refridgerator running for that percentage.
Actually, i can argue the CO2 angle. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is the very thing plants use for photosynthesis. It is what they use to grow and thrive. Less CO2 would mean less plant growth, and possibly declines in plant life populations. That would, in fact, be bad. More is absorbed by more plants…i dont have the link for it, but i read a study indicating more CO2 was actually a benefit for crop growth and so on. If i find the link again, i’ll post it.
And believe me. anytime anyone in business has to pay for something (as cap and trade would hit them for rather large amounts)….consumers ALWAYS pay for it. the price of gas is a prime example. price of gas increases….now look at the price of other goods and services.
continuted, hit button, my bad…
to close, if businesses have to pay, who do you think they pass the costs to? they wont eat the cost themselves.
Global warming is at best, rather broad speculation. I’m not willing to put more into this until the science bears this out conclusively.
Why is it that the MCCain bots are sooo condescending and insulting. Please, keep up the good work though, because with your condescention and feigned wisdom (cause that is all it is) you are pushing people further and further away from McCAin and I think that is a good thing, a GREAT thing. If McCain is elected, he will destroy conservatism at least for our lifetime. McCain must be defeated as Ford was before REagan came to power. And whoever said McCain is good on SOCIAL issues (I think it was Buckaroo), please enlighten me with SPECIFICS as to what he has ACCOMPLISHED on social issues. Let me give you SPECIFICS: Last I checked, he said Roe v. Wade should not be overturned since it is so establised; he is pro-embrionic stem cell research; he personally added his name to a suit against the Wisconsin right to life, he has done nothing for marriage. He is not a strong social conservative (just as he is no conservative on almost everything else, EVEN JUDGES) and many social conservatives, like Dr. Dobson, etc., agree with meon this one. So what is McCain good for but to destroy conservatism and to keep us in Iraq for many years to come, oh, and destroy even more US jobs with his global warming cool aid (same as BO). No thanks.
RIC,
nice
/cheers
Thanks abstractmind. This is how I see McCain: he hates conservatives, now he knows that he may not even need us to win in November because if BO is the nominee, frankly, a lot of blue collar white democrats will probably not vote for him and neither will a lot of hispanics. Take from that what you will, but I see those as facts based on democrat election returns from numerous states. So, McCain is catering to his TRUE base: democrats, “moderates”, hispanics. He is giddy that he does not need us and he will be more than happy to relegate us to the history of the REpublican party: that is the goal: conservatism must die. This is blatantly evident in every republican elitist out there, in Congress, in the media, and especially in McCain. Well, that is my 2 cents, gotta go for now.
One caveat to my previous post:
If Condi Rice is nominated for the VP Spot, I will vote McCain, along with if Pawlenty, Sanford, Jindal, or Thompson…or JC Watts.
RIC, conservatism won’t die anytime soon. Bobby Jindal is on the horizon and I predict he will be our Messiah. I heard him speak on the radio today. He’s the next Ronald Reagan and will not only energize conservatives, but the entire country except the crazies on the left of course.
My oldest son was determined that he would vote for the devil himself to keep Obama out of office.
Then McCain just kept opening his fat mouth, and kept opening his fat mouth, and kept opening his fat mouth… etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
My son finally decided that the devil wasn’t better than Obama.
Not that Obama was better than the devil either… but, all things considered…
Thank you, McVain, for your big fat mouth and your inability to keep your mouth shut for your own benefit - because of your own big fat EGO!
Buckaroo
Left you a comment at Gulf Coast Pundit in the thread based on this thread.
OK, it would have been nice if the real conservatives had teamed up and chosen one candidate. But as it was, the Republican vote was split, between the pro-life lib who passed himself as a conservative (the Huckster), Tancredo, (who was probably not electable), Duncan Hunter (true conservative, tough on borders, Viet Nam vet who paid for law school with GI Bill money, and whom I sent money to), Romney, officially conservative on all issues but with a record that suggested his pro-life views might have developed for political reasons, and burdened by the percentage of voters who couldn’t vote for a Mormon, and Fred, who got in too late.
Leaving the undivided RINO, independent and Democrat vote for McCain.
If only Giuliani hadn’t adopted his flawed ‘wait ’til Florida’ strategy. Then he and McCain would have battled for the pro-national security but also pro-amnesty Democrat voters in the Republican primaries and caucuses, and Fred or Duncan or most likely Romney could have won the nomination.
But it should be no source of pride for McCain that he won only because the real Republicans split the Republican vote.
Real Immigrant Chick
Buckaroo has just informed he that he has lost his posting priviledges here.
But why I think that the RINO must win:
I’ll still vote, because I know with a solid Democrat Congress and a President Obama, every elderly lib on the SCOTUS will retire before 2010 so Obama can appoint more thirty-something Bader-Ginsburg ACLU attorneys, giving us four decades of at least four safely Marxist jurists on the bench, and will impose a health care entitlement for all that will guarantee there won’t be enough discretionary budget left in 2013 for a potential Republican POTUS to rebuild the military with after the cut-n-run from Iraq and Afghanistan and the continuation of the Clinton decimation of the military.
True, the defeat of the RINO Ford by Carter (Ford became VP when Agnew resigned because the Dem leadership in the Senate informed Nixon that Ford was the only Republican they would confirm) led to Reagan.
It also led to the Iran hostage crisis, the birth of Islamic terrorism aimed directly at the US (sure, the PLO was around, but they were more Marxist than Islamic then), and while Carter didn’t appoint a libtard SCOTUS justice (he didn’t have time), he did fill the federal courts with many judicial activists.
Sorry Michelle, but you were wrong on this one.
Who was the only Presidential Candidate who committed to Senator Jeff Sessions’ 15 point action plan to restore law and order to America’s broken immigration system?
Mike Huckabee.
It’s outrageous that despite Huckabee’s commitment, in writing, would go unappreciated by you. Huckabee pledged to build the fences on both the northern and southern borders by July 1, 2010. He should be applauded, not ridiculed.
It’s not often that I disagree with you, Michelle, but on this post you are totally wrong.
Here’s what Huckabee said about immigration during his CPAC speech on February 9th: