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The Thomas Kinkade of transgressive art

By see-dubya  •  May 12, 2008 04:33 PM

The droll Sean M. wonders why the press continues to cover that guy who takes pictures of large crowds of naked people. Spencer Tunick is his name, working the media is his game. He’s like Christo, except instead of wrapping things in colored fabric, his medium is tons of naked bohemian cellulite. The setting may change, I think it was a bank once, and a department store, but it’s always tons of naked bohemian cellulite. And it’s for some reason, it’s always news.

Sean addresses Tunick directly:

Your pictures actually combine the “spirit” of conning a big crowd of doughy people who are (probably) liberal dupes into getting nude in public places in the name of doing something “transgressive,” with your ability to con the media into giving you free publicity, again, because you’re a “transgressive” “artist.”

News flash: 1,840 naked hippies is, like, Tuesday in the park at Berkeley. (Go ask Zombie.) It may have been transgressive the first time it happened, but unclothed artsy flash mobs are sooooo 2002. Besides, crazy Yalie Aliza Schvarts pretty much set the bar for artistic transgression art out of reach.

In fact, I hereby pronounce the very act of creating “transgressive art” to be middlebrow and mainstream*, and Spencer Tunick to be the Thomas Kinkade of transgressive art.

I don’t hate Thomas Kinkade or anything. And I usually love people who like Kinkade, and I usually dislike people who dislike people who like Kinkade, even if I don’t much care for Kinkade myself. At least he’s popular for a reason. Unlike Tunick’s, the images he creates are pleasant to look at, and make people feel nice things. But exactly like Tunick, he’s everywhere, he’s more marketing than talent, and he does exactly the same thing again and again and again.

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*Well, that’s not entirely true. Some transgressive art can still shock and create a dialogue, and highlight social inequities, and do all the things transgressive art is supposed to do.

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  1. #1
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, cpodug said:

    Like P.T. Barnum once said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.” Spencer Tunick’s talent is getting them to mass together in one place.

  2. #2
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, ajmontana said:

    Makes ya miss Ansel Adams, now his work was art, breathtaking.

  3. #3
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Whatever, as long as I am not taxed for it. I am not, am I? Please tell me I am not taxed for this.

  4. #4
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, Walldog said:

    I’ve always wondered why group pictures of unattractive naked people is considered “art”.

    .

  5. #5
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, see-dubya said:

    Because group pictures of attractive naked people are considered “porn”.

  6. #6
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, cpodug said:

    Walldog said: I’ve always wondered why group pictures of unattractive naked people is considered “art”.

    It’s either “Art” or Berkeley, your choice

  7. #7
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol see-dubya….

  8. #8
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, mchristian said:

    MY EYES!!!

  9. #9
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, abstractmind said:

    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, see-dubya said:
    Because group pictures of attractive naked people are considered “porn”.

    Not that I want to get into -this- discussion, but…there’s alot of ugly people in porn……

    *whistles innocently*

    Anyway…this is nothing new. and it seems kinda novel, really. not impressed. naked hippies just means its time to hose them down for a bath.

  10. #10
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, grumbles said:

    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, see-dubya said:

    Because group pictures of attractive naked people are considered “porn”.

    In the world of Bork!

  11. #11
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, undrseige247 said:

    Thomas Kinkade mixes capitalism and art quite well. Go to the “feminist art” wing of the Brooklyn Museum if you want to see some modern art crap.

  12. #12
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, Cicero said:

    He’s a scam artist whose managed to punk softheaded newsroom editors into believing that he’s making a serious “statement.”

  13. #13
    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    News flash: 1,840 naked hippies is, like,

    …the nastiest smell evah! EWWWWW

  14. #14
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, spo-con said:

    Thats what they look like without the tie die ??!? O.K., everybody BACK to the dressing room !

  15. #15
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    You wanna be upwind from this piece…

  16. #16
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, Chuck said:

    Still trying to relive the 60’s. How pathetic.

  17. #17
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:06 pm, love2rumba said:

    re:post #5

    There is a diffeerence between ughly and bautiful naked people, C-dubya?

    WOW!

  18. #18
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, wighttrasch said:

    It’s like the old Grateful Dead joke, but now goes something like this…

    Q: what does a hippie in the crowd of a Spencer Tunick gathering say when he runs out of cannabis?

    A: man, this sucks.

  19. #19
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, Land that I Love said:

    Ha, ha those old hippies… always doing something to make a statement. I wonder what the statement this time is? Free plastic surgery for the masses so they don’t have to look like us? Perhaps, perhaps.

  20. #20
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, nbarry said:

    News people have an infantile obsession with public nudity. They need psychiatric help.

    As for the distinction between art and porn, Lenny Bruce went a little further. He said that if a female breast is misshapen, bruised or battered, it’s clean. But if it is whole, healthy and pleasing to the eye, it’s dirty. “That’s why an atrocity photo is never an obscenity photo,” the comedian concluded.

  21. #21
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, ajmontana said:

    Do the naked peeps get paid? or are they free morons?

  22. #22
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Cuddle Party people in training?…. could be.

  23. #23
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, brooklyn red said:

    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, undrseige247 said:
    Thomas Kinkade mixes capitalism and art quite well. Go to the “feminist art” wing of the Brooklyn Museum if you want to see some modern art crap.

    Wait… something is wrong here… where is Chuck Schumer? Why are the birds so quiet? Something is wrong here.

  24. #24
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, walterc said:

    MNUSMCDavid said:

    Cuddle Party people in training?…. could be.

    Probably bored with just cuddling with jammies on.

  25. #25
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Did you hear that a little person showed up to join in, but they made him leave?…he was getting in everyone’s hair.

  26. #26
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, PaleoMedic said:

    The most interesting thing about Thomas Kinkade is that he not only shares my surname, he spells it correctly. My whole life I’ve had to give people my name followed immediately by spelling it. And yet people still spell it wrong.

    As for his art, it’s fine for what it is. At least he does not feature naked, geriatric hippies.

    Sincerely,
    Mike Kinkade

  27. #27
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I’m sure you’ll find Pelosi, Reid in the mix there somewhere. They’re just frustrated hippies.

  28. #28
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, libocrat said:

    This is awesome!! Did Tomboy Kinkade think up this really really groovy new idea all by his lonesome?
    I mean WOW! Nude people.
    You need to be real creative to think this shyte up. Or you need to have bought John Lennon albums nearly 40 years ago.

  29. #29
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, John Ansell said:

    Next they will break out into a massive twister game. Left hand on blue.

  30. #30
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Fineous Reese said:

    abstractmind said:

    Not that I want to get into -this- discussion, but…there’s alot of ugly people in porn……

    forget the hippies, long live the hedgehog!

  31. #31
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Misscheryl said:

    JA #29 - mental pictures - icky! MistressJustice - can we say icky?

    Where the heck is MJ????

  32. #32
    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, Misscheryl said:

    just askin’

  33. #33
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, John Ansell said:

    On May 12th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, ajmontana said:
    Do the naked peeps get paid? or are they free morons?

    I think they get paid Two Bits, which would make them two bit “wh*res”. Just guessing though.

  34. #34
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Because group pictures of attractive naked people are considered “porn”.

    Heh.

    I think the “models” are related to the “Cuddlers”. Hoping to bump into someone - literally.

  35. #35
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Joy said:

    Aliza Schvarts has set the new bar… but leave it to liberals and old hippies to spend their days trying to come up with something grosser. They’ll do it too.

    Everytime I’ve thought they can’t get worse, they manage it just fine.

  36. #36
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, undrseige247 said:

    Misscheryl said:

    JA #29 - mental pictures - icky! MistressJustice - can we say icky?

    Where the heck is MJ????

    Misscheryl, this is my mental picture of MistressJustice.

  37. #37
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:43 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Now THAT was funny!

  38. #38
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, brooklyn red said:

    undrseige247, Re: “this is my mental picture of MistressJustice

    In good faith, I will not sue you this time.

  39. #39
    On May 12th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, deepdriller said:

    Why is it always the people you would least like to see naked who have the compelling need to give you an eyefull????

    It’s like ballet, beautiful… until the guy in the tight tights comes out.

  40. #40
    On May 12th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Azygos said:

    What would the “artist” do if Helen Thomas wanted to participate? Shudders.

  41. #41
    On May 12th, 2008 at 7:36 pm, behiker said:

    Unfortunately, this is what a lot of “art” is these days… crap, and it requires less and less talent. But, if you tell them that, they would say you just don’t understand art.

  42. #42
    On May 12th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On May 12th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, see-dubya said:
    Because group pictures of attractive naked people are considered “porn”.

    Since people in these crowds don’t get worked “up”, would this be considered soft porn?

  43. #43
    On May 12th, 2008 at 9:07 pm, tuffy said:

    I’ve never seen attractive people in pr0n and I’ve watched a lot of… Uh, the major difference seems to be one group showers and loves plastic surgery. Maybe because you have to shower prior to surgery.

    Please tell me local authorities make a habit of setting up D.U.I. checkpoints nearby.

  44. #44
    On May 13th, 2008 at 2:41 am, ProtestShooter said:

    He’s one of these artists whose early work was very interesting but not very lucrative and he finally latched onto something that makes him money and he’s riding it for all its worth.

  45. #45
    On May 13th, 2008 at 7:44 am, IndependentTom said:

    (Yawn)

  46. #46
    On May 13th, 2008 at 8:25 am, tre said:

    I think I’ll just stick with Charles Russell, Fredrick Remington, David Mann, and Norman Rockwell, thank you very much.

  47. #47
    On May 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am, changer1701 said:

    I’ve always wondered who does this and why they think its a good idea. Is there like an ad in the local paper or something…”Weirdo photographer seeks naked people to stand in local park for art”? I guess exhibitionists love it, though…

  48. #48
    On May 13th, 2008 at 11:31 am, secondsight said:

    Berkley? Who would notice?

    But seriously, everyone knows those Americans aren’t really that tough. For instance, let’s see this.

    Link to Tunick on a glacier, maybe not for work place viewing. (But it’s Art)

  49. #49
    On May 14th, 2008 at 7:32 am, everett_mansfield said:

    “Mama always liked Thomas Kinkade.”- F. Gump

  50. #50
    On May 15th, 2008 at 11:42 am, Cosmo said:

    Never underestimate the power of Tunick’s works to act as both an emetic as well as a mild to aggressive laxative.

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